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This book is written to look at how some Christian Doctrines are Ignored by some modern Christians as not so important.  Therefore we try our  best not to repeat the usual Doctrines which are already well Revealed and accepted across mainstream Christianity such as the Doctrine of Trinity to the Doctrine of Holiness and rather choose to Speak about the other New Testament Bible Verses which pertain to some of these Ignored Doctrines and Possibilities so that a Christian may decide his walk of faith better and not be discouraged by empty words against it sometimes (by those who preach a simplified saved by Grace Doctrine ignoring the fruits of Salvation or in some cases ignoring the Rewards Doctrine for Works as Revealed for this New Testament).

 

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This book is written to explain some key Christian Doctrine position we take to be Safe Scripturally highlighting the Risks with Bible Verses for those who do otherwise. This is important to as a Christian because we do not want Christ Questioning us one day regarding ‘Why we didn’t warn others?’ based on Verses below:

 

“… When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you shall surely die!’ and YOU DO NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED FROM HIS WAY, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; BUT HIS BLOOD I WILL REQUIRE AT YOUR HAND. Nevertheless IF YOU WARN the WICKED to TURN FROM HIS WAY, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but YOU HAVE DELIVERED YOUR SOUL. …” (Ezekiel 33:8 – 9, NKJV)

 

This does not necessarily mean that the opposite positions to what we propose as the Safe Route Scripturally in this Book must we wrong but rather in some cases it could be so if God permitted it. However the risk of the opposite positions is still there because we prove our position with Bible Verses and the opposite positions usually pertain to New Modern Ways which some Christians have claimed that God told them do so especially based on the Progressive Revelation Movement which we do not support.

 

Since only God Knows whether their claims are true or not, we do not judge those Christians letting God Judge them alone. However, we also point out to them to have respect for these First Ways of the Church especially which are Written in Bible Verses because the Doctrinal Position we demonstrate is already Plainly Written in Holy Scripture and so it is already 100% Approved by New Testament Scripture and the First Churches which obeyed it are already Saved by Practicing it and that’s why we seek to Imitate Scripture likewise.  Big number of Christians following a Doctrine or believing in something is not necessarily a sign of Truth which is easy to prove for any Protestants since no matter what blessing or evangelism they claim, the Roman Catholics beat them in financial blessings to number of souls and so by that logic, does it justify Praying to Virgin Mary? So claiming such proofs is not Biblical but rather we point to Bible Verses only for each claim.

 

 

 

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“Prosperity Testimony” – Questions to Ponder

 

A General Scenario: Imagine your country has majority of religion A and race B but a person of religion C and race D becomes its king by Democracy. So if that “king” comes and gives a testimony of his life, would you leave your religion and convert to that instead?

 

This is a reason “why” I do “not” believe in any “Prosperity” as a

“sign of truth”.

 

The “king” may be from subrace D1 while the others from his native country may be from subrace D2, D3, … where even among them they won’t support those of another subrace easily or if any from their subrace is not of the same religion of C, can you see it?

 

In fact, they won’t even allow subrace D2, D3, etc. to marry those of subrace D1 or some selected subrace only to do so. But despite such racism hidden within their own hearts even, they can be among the “richest” people in the world too. God Will Reveal everything One Day.

 

While people from race D or others wish to be “king” in the land of majority religion A and race B, in their own “native land/motherland” NO ONE from race B or others who do not believe in religion C will ever be a “king” there (in their “motherland”) by “democracy”, an irony isn’t it?

 

The only “Genuine Truth” here I see is that the people of majority religion A and race B have been able to PRACTICE JUSTICE beyond their own religion A and race B which itself puts them at a MORAL LEVEL that is UNSURPASSED by their other counterparts. The day the others can do similarly in not just “appointing a king” but also in “other matters of business and life” then they get closer to “God’s Truth”. Till then, it’s just a “prosperity game” which is an “illusion” which destroys one in the “spirit world”.

 

A similar thing can be seen in regards to “Prosperity Churches” vs “Poorer Churches” likewise in analogy.

 

That’s why Christ put the Command of PERFECTION not as “prosperity” but the CHARITY DOCTRINE:

 

“… 21JESUS said to him, “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS. 23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

That’s why in CHRIST’s OWN WORDS here we see that the GREATEST NUMBER is “ZERO” for those who can do “ZERO PROSPERITY” of “… SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME. …” which I CANNOT DO (so even a scrap of heaven or at the final new earth would suffice for me) but the Greatest Fathers of the Church the world has even known (as I have quoted say in the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook) have done it remarkably. Please note that letting go of wealth and living like a hermit does NOT count much if the “wealth was left to the family” earlier as that person by relative measure did NOT give anything to the poor. I mean the best is to give some to family and according to one’s ability give to the poor as well.

 

An Edifying Comment: Can the country of origin of such persons allow those NOT of same race NOR of same religion to hold such portfolio likewise? (or will they never vote for such even if the candidate is good? NOT just in POLITICS but any field too like for example in Education even they grab the “paying teaching opportunities to themselves instead of the candidate of best qualification among them even” as that’s their “moral level even toward same race but different religion” is only at that level of “prejudice” even. So, Let all Answer God One Day).

 

Conclusion

 

You see it is People who send themselves to “Hell” (even if “Eternal so be it”) due to “their own injustice and unholiness within them” as these few points in comparison itself shows.

 

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Especially those which affect the “future in the Spirit World and beyond” after we die toward the “Resurrection”.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

St. Ambrose of Milan seems to be very CONFIDENT of SUCH NON ELECT SALVATION from the LAKE of FIRE CONTEXT as his quotes next seem to point, right?

 

 

 

Source: https://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/sib/sib04.htm

 

 

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Following Christ and the Charity Doctrine Link Mystery

 

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Interestingly, Christ Did “not” Say you can “Follow Me” and “Keep those Wealth without Giving”

 

But rather He Said to “Give that Wealth First to FOLLOW HIM” as a Condition for Perfection which refers to the “Hundredfold” type as He Explained in full below:

 

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?”

 

21Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”

 

22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

 

23Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

 

25When His disciples heard it, they were greatly astonished, saying, “Who then can be saved?”

 

26But Jesus looked at them and said to them, “With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

 

27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have left all and followed You. Therefore what shall we have?”

 

28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother [h]or wife or children or [i]lands, for My name’s sake, shall receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life. 30But many who are first will be last, and the last first. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 30, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1) The “Being Saved” in Verses 25 to 26 can refer to “Thirty-fold, sixty-fold or Hundredfold” Heavenly Reward levels (Matthew 13:8) or even the “Saved by Fire” case of 1 Corinthians 3:15 as well.

 

2) Christ Describes the “Perfection” of “Following Him” as inclusive of the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” of “Give to the Poor” as the Transaction required for “Treasure in Heavens” (Verse 21 here).

 

3) Christ Explains the “Hundredfold” Highest Heavenly Reward (Verse 29) for Eternal Life mentioning even the Apostles to be highest recipients of it (Verse 28) as they will sit on Thrones.

 

4) Yes, the “Hundredfold” Reward is described here (Verse 29) to be in the Context of “leaving” (“not” gaining) something significant in our lives for the Gospel’s Sake or Christ’s Sake (“His Commands”, implied) which includes even leaving earthly possessions or relationships from “houses, lands” to “parents, brothers” even being “unmarried, or married but left wife” for Gospel Commands or Gospel Work.

 

5) The “Hundredfold” is for each of those who can do these as He doesn’t point to number of Converts or any other things simply because those things are not within your control but if you do what you can willingly by relative measure, one will reap what he has sown accordingly.

 

6) “Follow Me” which Christ Himself Teaches here (Verse 21) equals to “Believing Him” and includes the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” of “Give to the Poor” as Christ Himself Teaches here as it is Written.

 

7) Perhaps the “Thirty-fold, sixty-fold or Hundredfold” Heavenly Reward levels (Matthew 13:8) are also accordingly proportioned based on how much we follow Christ’s Perfect exhortation to live out this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of “Give to the Poor” (Verse 21) accordingly by Relative Measure as First Christianity Taught this too. This means if we give little and are saved, we may get Thirty-fold in comparison to others who gave more and thus may merit a Sixty-fold or Hundredfold accordingly as the Context Matches as Christ did mention leave “House/Lands” in Verse 29’s Description of the “Hundredfold” type of Rewards. Nothing else is Written and if it was important for the Hundredfold Reward, Christ Would have Said it.

 

7) Please also notice carefully that based on these aspects is how “many” (not few) will be first or last accordingly (reward levels of the Kingdom from Thirty-fold to Hundredfold accordingly) as Verse 30 concludes.

 

Conclusion

 

This Verse might be closely related since without sacrificing one own personal wealth/possessions for the Gospel in some way, such faith can be fake as it seeks to save itself without being used to Save others too, Verses:

 

“… So likewise, whoever of you DOES NOT FORSAKE ALL that he has CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLE …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 14:33, NKJV)

 

 

“… So then, NONE OF YOU CAN BE MY DISCIPLE who does NOT GIVE UP ALL HIS OWN POSSESSIONS …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 14:33, NASB)

 

 

In short, the level we give it up can determine whether we are “Thirty-fold, Sixty-fold or Hundredfold” type of Heavenly Rewards if saved.

 

 

 

 

Also the ‘popular prosperity myth’ that you can have your heart not earthly money but have lots of it “contradicts” Christ’s Direct Words below where He Says Clearly that “your heart” is exactly where “your treasure is whether on earth (if you hoard much money) or in the Heavens (if you share and give it) via the Charity Doctrine of Give to Charity” in Christ Most Blessed Words below:

 

“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)

 

The Prosperity Preachers are speaking against Christ when they say you can have a lot of money but don’t let it be in your heart as Christ Says the opposite namely if your heart is in the Heavens, you will Give to Charity and vice versa.

 

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When? “In that Day” – Possible Special Mercy for some somewhere into the First Resurrection Wedding Feast?

 

“… 18IN THAT DAY the DEAF shall HEAR THE WORDS OF THE BOOK, And the EYES OF THE BLIND SHALL SEE out of obscurity and out of darkness. 19The humble also shall increase their joy in the Lord, And THE POOR AMONG MEN shall rejoice In the Holy One of Israel. …” (Isaiah 29:18 – 19, NKJV)

 

I often wondered if this is a special mercy of God to the Poor as Christ Himself Said something similar in Verses below (we can contemplate but Let God Decide):

 

1) Those with “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” are Saved in this First Resurrection

 

“… [12Then He also said to him who invited Him],  “When you give a dinner or a supper, do not ask your friends, your brothers, your relatives, nor rich neighbors, lest they also invite you back, and you be repaid. 13But WHEN YOU GIVE A FEAST, INVITE THE POOR, the [d]MAIMED, THE LAME, THE BLIND. 14And YOU WILL BE BLESSED, BECAUSE THEY CANNOT REPAY YOU; FOR YOU SHALL BE REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION OF THE JUST.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 14:12 – 14, NKJV)

 

2) Those “POOR, MAIMED, BLIND” may be shown special Mercy too as these Verses continue parabolically as follows:

 

“… 21So that servant came and reported these things to his master. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, ‘Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and BRING IN HERE THE POOR AND THE [f]MAIMED AND THE LAME AND THE BLIND.’ 22And the servant said, ‘Master, it is done as you commanded, and still there is room.’ 23Then the master said to the servant, ‘Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 24For I say to you that none of those men who were invited shall taste my supper.’ ” …” (Luke 14:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mystery of the New Covenant and Good Works for True Christians

 

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Firstly, have you seen this Verse where it says that “Good Works” is “our part” of fulfilling the “New Covenant” and not ‘faith only’?

 

“… 20Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our LORD JESUS, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the BLOOD of the EVERLASTING COVENANT 21MAKE YOU PERFECT in EVERY GOOD WORK to DO HIS WILL, working in you that which is WELL PLEASING in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. …” (Hebrews 13:20 – 21, KJV)

 

Indeed, The New Covenant is all about “Doing Good Works” for keeping (obeying) “our part of the Covenant”, as per Verses above.

 

Yes, to do “GOOD” to others is the NEW COVENANT in HIS BLOOD for us to fulfill as the Verses above Describe Beautifully “as it is Written”. So to miss this Doctrine of Good Works, is to miss our part for the “New Covenant”.

 

Which Good Works are considered “FRUITS WORTHY of REPENTANCE?”

 

Let’s hear from the Actual FORE-RUNNER for CHRIST HIMSELF, John the Baptist in as shown in image (from Page 427 of the #CharityDoctrine Book) which starts off with the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of SHARING and GIVING FOOD + TUNIC (this world’s goods because it is equivalent to fulfill ALL LAW/TORAH itself when we love our neighbour via such giving as both Galatians 5:14, Luke 10:25 – 37’s Parable of the Good Samaritan and even 1 John 3:16 – 18 prove likewise as well).

 

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Please notice carefully that even Blessed St. John the Baptist did “not” point to ‘prayer or fasting as fruits of repentance but these are helpful for repentance indeed’. This is because we can pray & fast all we want but it’s all for “self” whereas the FRUITS of REPENTANCE is best when IT BENEFITS OTHERS in SOME WAY and then, our prayers and fasting makes more sense too as many Verses testify (e.g. Zechariah 7:4 -12 too).

 

 

 

 

So, in light of these ‘Actual Bible Verses’, are we keeping our part of the NEW COVENANT?

 

Please remember relative measure too as some good is done out of abundance and luxury as it has little value though it seems much in amount as Christ Himself Taught in Luke 12:1 – 3 and also He Warned that “more is given, more is required” (in Luke 12:46 – 48) likewise which puts the BURDEN of DOING MORE GOOD (free giving and sharing to others) on THOSE WHO HAVE MORE as ‘not doing the good we can itself is sin’ (James 4:17).

 

May God Help us to Keep “HIS COVENANT” by these GOOD WORKS in RELATIVE MEASURE because converting MANY without it may also account for LAWLESSNESS (Let God Decide each case as He is Fair to all):

 

“… 14Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. … 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we NOT PROPHESIED in Your name, CAST OUT DEMONS in Your name, and DONE MANY WONDERS in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ … 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN who BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:14, 21 – 23, 24, NKJV)

 

May God also Help us to DO GOOD not just toward Church members or family members or even those of the same race only but to ALL as Christ Himself Remarked Beautifully as follows:

 

“… 32“But IF YOU LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:32, NKJV)

 

“… WHAT DO YOU DO MORE THAN OTHERS? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:47, NKJV)

 

“… 33And IF YOU DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO DO GOOD TO YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU?  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:33, NKJV)

 

 

Doing this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle is Called “OBEYING the GOSPEL of Christ”, Verses:

 

“… 9As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad,He has GIVEN TO THE POOR; His RIGHTEOUSNESS endures FOREVER.” 10Now [g]may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, [h]supply and multiply the seed you have sown and INCREASE THE FRUITS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, 11while you are enriched in everything for ALL LIBERALITY, which causes THANKSGIVING THROUGH US TO GOD. 12For the ADMINISTRATION OF THIS SERVICE not only SUPPLIES THE NEEDS OF THE SAINTS, but also is ABOUNDING THROUGH MANY THANKSGIVINGS TO GOD, 13while, through the PROOF OF THIS MINISTRY, THEY GLORIFY GOD for the OBEDIENCE OF YOUR CONFESSION to the GOSPEL OF CHRIST, and for YOUR LIBERAL SHARING WITH THEM and ALL MEN, …” (2 Corinthians 9:9 – 13, NKJV)

 

Please notice the last line above which describes this “LIBERAL SHARING” as “not” just to “fellow Christians” but to “ALL MEN” too.

 

Yes, if our Teaching and Learning of Scripture does NOT PRODUCE GOOD WORKS especially for FREE toward our FELLOW MEN in some way, we have FAILED in this PURPOSE of SCRIPTURE itself as per Verses below:

 

“…  15And that from a child thou hast known the HOLY SCRIPTURES, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That THE MAN OF GOD may be PERFECT, throughly furnished unto ALL GOOD WORKS. …” (2 Timothy 3:15 – 17, KJV)

 

Note: The Purpose of “Holy Scripture” itself is to produce “Men of God” who are Equipped/Complete/Perfect for doing every “GOOD WORK” as per Verses above.

 

So this is how a group of CHRISTIANS  KEEPING the NEW COVENANT looks like as these Bible Verses Describe “as it is Written” (please be very careful of ‘business ideas’ run by churches these days instead of FREE GIVING and SHARING which is not done much nowadays but was done BY ALL GREAT MISSIONARY WORKS of the PAST regardless of denominations as they GAVE FREE SCHOOL, FREE HOSPITALS, FREE BIBLES to many things ALL FREE while the Church Members Paid for it. This are the TRUE CHURCHES of CHRIST).

 

Yes the True Church = those with GOOD WORKS especially the CHARITY DOCTRINE as these Verses clearly Prove as it is Written, Verses:

 

“…  14who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself HIS OWN SPECIAL PEOPLE, ZEALOUS FOR GOOD WORKS. … 1Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be READY FOR EVERY GOOD WORK, 2to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men … 4But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, … 8This is a FAITHFUL SAYING, and THESE THINGS I WANT YOU TO AFFIRM CONSTANTLY, that THOSE WHO HAVE BELIEVED IN GOD should be CAREFUL TO MAINTAIN GOOD WORKS. These things are good and profitable to men. … 14And let OUR PEOPLE also LEARN TO MAINTAIN GOOD WORKS, to MEET URGENT NEEDS, that they may NOT BE UNFRUITFUL. …” (Titus 2:14, 3:1, 4 – 5, 8, 14, NKJV)

 

These last set of Verses Describe the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Church = True Christians in a nutshell. Comments and Phrases from the above for each claim made:

 

  1. God’s Elect are only those “few” who are “Zealous for Good Doing Works”

 

“…HIS OWN SPECIAL PEOPLE, ZEALOUS FOR GOOD WORKS. …”

 

  1. This Good Work is to be done in the secular world too

 

“…  subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be READY FOR EVERY GOOD WORK, …”

 

  1. Even then we are not saved by Works though a True Christian will do it (reminder)

 

“… 5NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but according to His mercy He saved us, …”

 

 

  1. Doing Good Works Doctrine is not some optional doctrine but rather must be CAREFULLY observed and TAUGHT REPEATEDLY by any TRUE CHRISTIAN

 

“… 8This is a FAITHFUL SAYING, and THESE THINGS I WANT YOU TO AFFIRM CONSTANTLY, that THOSE WHO HAVE BELIEVED IN GOD should be CAREFUL TO MAINTAIN GOOD WORKS. These things are good and profitable to men. …”

 

  1. The No. 1 most important and Powerful Good Work = Charity Doctrine Lifestyle (as it fulfills all Law, Galatians 5:14, Luke 10:25 – 37, 1 John 3:16 – 18) ALONE is SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED in these Verses as “not” one word that Good Work here refers to ‘prayer, fasting, church attendance etc.’ (which are good) BUT NOT MENTIONED here as the MOST IMPORTANT one as follows which is to MEET URGENT “NEEDS” (not luxury, prosperity etc.):

 

“… 14And let OUR PEOPLE also LEARN TO MAINTAIN GOOD WORKS, to MEET URGENT NEEDS, that they may NOT BE UNFRUITFUL. …”

 

So, the Proper Attitude for a True Christian after Doing all this is:

 

“… So likewise you, when you have done all those things which you are commanded, say, ‘We are unprofitable servants. We have done what was our duty to do.’ ” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 17:10, NKJV)

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mystery of the Heart of Worship

 

Firstly, why is this important?

“… God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” …” (John 5:24, NKJV)

Example: Just like some Christians think that ‘praying with many words (or many hours)’ is what God Seeks, Christ Doesn’t point to that unless it’s naturally genuine (unplanned) and not a religious repetition, Verse:

“… And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For THEY THINK that THEY WILL BE HEARD for THEIR MANY WORDS. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 6:7, NKJV)

 

Comment: Similarly, “Worshipping God” for many hours but NOT according to the TRUTH and SPIRIT of ‘WHAT IS WRITTEN IN SCRIPTURE’ regarding it may likewise be in VAIN too.

 

God’s Principles do “not” change. So, unless we see “WHAT HE WANTS for WORSHIP”, we may NOT “WORSHIP HIM” in “SPIRIT and TRUTH”. God is not looking for fancy music or number of people in worship but a sincere heart and “OBEDIENCE”.

Since “OBEDIENCE” is the “Key for Worship”, please consider these ACTS of OBEDIENCE which are DIRECTLY LINKED TO WORSHIP:

 

1) WORSHIP is Accepted according to how much of God’s Commands or God’s New Testament Traditions We Obey and also how much of MAN MADE TRADITIONS which we DO NOT OBEY

 

2) CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE Produces GENUINE WORSHIP as it comes from Hearts which have BENEFITTED DIRECTLY causing MANY THANKSGIVINGS to GOD

 

3) WORSHIP is Accepted only if we fulfil JUSTICE and LOVE of GOD in ACTION which is GIVING and SHARING earthly and spiritual things for FREE (“ALMS” = “Charity”) to each other by Relative Measure first

 

 

 

 

Here are each of the Points above with “BIBLE VERSES as it is WRITTEN”:

 

1) Worship is Accepted according to how much of God’s Commands or God’s New Testament Traditions We Obey and also how much of MAN MADE TRADITIONS which we DO NOT OBEY

 

[Page 16 from the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook]

Even the only thing we Christians sometimes focus on which is “WORSHIP” becomes “VAIN” (i.e. has “NO VALUE” or though it is “heard by many Christians” but yet GOD NEVER HEARD IT NOR ACCEPTS IT AT ALL), Verses:

 

“… Thus you have made the [b]COMMANDMENT OF GOD OF NO EFFECT BY YOUR TRADITION. 7HYPOCRITES! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: 8‘These people [c]DRAW NEAR TO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH, And HONOR ME WITH THEIR LIPS, But THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. 9And IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.’ ” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 15:6 – 9, NKJV)

 

Context: Christ was “not” correcting the Pharisees’ ESCHATOLOGY or some FINE HIDDEN WISDOM IN THE WORD OF GOD when He Spoke the above but rather was referring to the “Corban” practice (Matthew 15:3 – 5) which means that it is HIS WRITTEN COMMANDS which ARE IGNORED for the SAKE OF MAN MADE TRADITIONS that Puts forth the JUDGMENT IN HIS WORDS AS —> “They WORSHIP ME IN VAIN”.

 

In short, the Safe Route Scripturally is that “if we want OUR WORSHIP TO BE HEARD BY GOD”, we must TEACH AND DO HIS NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS. Which ones? Please allow me to repeat:

 

Yes, ‘Saved by Grace must promote His Commands’ which is a True Faith in Christ. To “avoid LAWLESSNESS”, The “LAW” part Christ Refers to is “not the abolished Torah Observances as some Christian err” but ONLY THE THINGS WHICH CHRIST SAID (either those He Re-enforced from the TORAH or NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS such as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of GIVING and SHARING which is the ‘most number of Commands by Christ Himself in the New Testament’ even in this Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 to Matthew 7)

 

The “House on the Rock of Christ” is only built when it is built upon “His Commands” and NOT on man made traditions:

 

“… 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:24, NKJV)

 

“… making the WORD OF GOD OF NO EFFECT THROUGH YOUR TRADITION which you have handed down. And MANY SUCH THINGS YOU DO.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 7:13, NKJV)

 

Safe Route Scripturally approach: If someone says something which is “not” a Bible Verse, we shouldn’t be alarmed by it. However if someone Points to a New Testament Verse, we should consider obeying it seriously as that’s the Way which has been endorsed by Scripture 100% and hence has “no” condemnation as God is “not” going to Ask, “Oh, you tried to follow and preach New Testament Verses instead of the modern ways ah?” Or equivalent.

 

[From Pages 273 and 274]

 

“… If anyone THINKS himself to be a PROPHET or SPIRITUAL, let him ACKNOWLEDGE that the things which I WRITE TO YOU ARE THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD. …” (1 Corinthians 14:37, NKJV)

 

So the best is to keep away from any Christianity which teaches against Written New Testament Traditions as that could be the ‘real pride’ as even by history they disobeyed all the Original Protestant Founders and made ways against it. So what’s wrong in disobeying their new ways and returning back to the NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS which even Blessed Martin Luther, Blessed John Cavin, Blessed Charles Spurgeon, Blessed John Wesley or even the Church Fathers Taught? (Are all these great man of God “Prideful” for obeying and teaching “Written New Testament Traditions”?)

 

 

New Testament Tradition Commands and Prophet Link:

 

For those obeying and upholding CHRIST’S COMMANDS in these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS (1 Corinthians 14:37, 2 Peter 3:2), this CONTEXT of the Verse below can be applied ‘as it’s HIS COMMANDS’ (not ‘human culture’):

 

“… 11Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:11 – 12, NKJV)

 

Note: The Context of a “Prophet” (Matthew 5:12 above) also matches here as  1 Corinthians 14:37 has the word “PROPHET” quoted in the CONTEXT of OBEYING FIRST ANY NEW TESTAMENT “WRITTEN” COMMANDS of the Lord. Can you see it please as it  is “Written”? So the “Church Fathers” to “early Protestant Leaders” who Taught the same could be the “Real Prophets“.

 

 

2)  CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE Produces GENUINE WORSHIP as it comes from Hearts which have BENEFITTED DIRECTLY causing MANY THANKSGIVINGS to GOD

 

[Page 922 from the #CharityDoctrineBook]

In full, this ‘Grace’ (of God) is Described as follows):

“… 7So let EACH ONE GIVE as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of [f]necessity; FOR GOD LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER. 8And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all SUFFICIENCY IN ALL THINGS, may have an ABUNDANCE FOR EVERY GOOD WORK. 9As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad, HE HAS GIVEN TO THE POOR; His righteousness ENDURES FOREVER.” 10Now [g]may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, [h]supply and multiply the seed you have sown and INCREASE THE FRUITS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, 11while you are enriched in everything for all liberality, which causes THANKSGIVING THROUGH US TO GOD. 12For the administration of this service not only supplies the NEEDS OF THE SAINTS, but also is abounding through MANY THANKSGIVINGS TO GOD, 13while, through the PROOF OF THIS MINISTRY, they glorify God for the OBEDIENCE of your CONFESSION to the GOSPEL OF CHRIST, and for YOUR LIBERAL SHARING WITH THEM and ALL MEN …” (2 Corinthians 9:7 – 13, NKJV)

 

Indeed, we are Created to “Worship God” and can we see it with Scripture how this links too with the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle”?

 

So, Bigger the Worship, Bigger the Giving for the NEEDS of others and vice versa as these Verses clearly prove.

 

Our Giving may not be that Great in light of “Relative Measure”. That is why I am “not” fond of Prosperity Christianity which Gives so little when measured in “Relative Measure” (as they receive far more than what they give/share, God Counts as per the case of the Poor Widow with 2 coins, in Luke 21:1 – 4 or the early church examples in 2 Corinthians 8:1 – 7 and so big giving in amount may not be much when given out of great abundance as Christ Himself remarked as follows):

 

“… 1And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites. 3So He [The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ] said, “Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in MORE THAN ALL; 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, but she out of HER POVERTY put in ALL THE LIVELIHOOD THAT SHE HAD. …” (Luke 21:1 – 4, NKJV)

 

Since God Counts our Giving based on what we receive or in Christ’s Own Most Blessed Words “… 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, …”, we ought to take note too if we truly seek to “Please Him” in “this Grace” (2 Corinthians 8:7). Being imperfect we cannot do a little bigger giving all the time but at least once  would suffice at a deeper level while if other times lesser too so that we can experience true giving & also at least we know this which should humble us.

 

 

3) WORSHIP is Accepted only if we fulfil JUSTICE and LOVE of GOD in ACTION which is GIVING and SHARING earthly and spiritual things for FREE (“ALMS” = “Charity”) to each other by Relative Measure first

 

[Pages 303 and 304 of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook]

 

Prophet Amos clearly Declared that Doing “Justice” and “Helping the Poor” must be done first before doing any ‘Church Gathering or Singing Songs to Worship God which God DOES NOT Hear unless these are fulfilled’, Verses:

 

“… 21“I HATE, I despise your feast days, And I do NOT SAVOR your SACRED ASSEMBLIES.

22Though you offer Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings, I will NOT ACCEPT them, NOR will I regard your fattened peace offerings. 23TAKE AWAY from Me the NOISE of YOUR SONGS, For I will NOT HEAR the MELODY of your STRINGED INSTRUMENTS. 24But let JUSTICE run down like water, And RIGHTEOUSNESS like a mighty stream. …” (Amos 5:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

Next, What “justice” and “righteousness” is God Referring to in Verses above, political parties & their rich men or hidden racist agendas? Nope.

 

Only JUSTICE and RIGHTEOUSNESS to the POOR is Written in these Consecutive Verses prior (“Context“) – yes, on Judgment Day itself Christ is only interested with how we treat the poor (Matthew 25:31-46’s When I was hungry, thirsty, naked…):

 

“… 10They HATE the one who REBUKES in the gate,

And they ABHOR the one who SPEAKS UPRIGHTLY.

11Therefore, BECAUSE YOU TREAD DOWN THE POOR

And take grain taxes from him,

Though you have built houses of hewn stone,

Yet you shall not dwell in them;

You have planted pleasant vineyards,

But you shall not drink wine from them.

12For I know YOUR MANIFOLD TRANSGRESSIONS

And YOUR MIGHTY SINS:

AFFLICTING THE JUST and TAKING BRIBES;

DIVERTING THE POOR FROM JUSTICE at the gate. …” (Amos 5:10 – 12, NKJV)

 

Isn’t this the ‘Same , JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD which was passed by (not fulfilled) by these TITHE paying Pharisees likewise’? Verses:

 

“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 45, NKJV)

 

Comment: “Tithe Paying” did “notfulfil this “Justice and Love of God” part which refers to this “GIVE ALMS/CHARITY = Giving or sharing with each other too” which Christ Doesn’t Give as an ‘option for some Christians to do’ but all (by Relative Measure, implied) as His Phrase here is clearly “… These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. …”.

 

Conclusion

Please notice carefully how the “Charity Doctrine” is at the “Heart of Worship” itself when these Verses are taken together and I often wondered is that the Reason why Christ Remarked Beautifully that “Give to Charity” determines “our Heart” based on whether “our Treasure is in the Heavens or earth” to have the Proper Attitude to “Seek His Kingdom” according to What “He Commanded” below (“not” my opinion), Verses (please notice carefully the phrases such as “SEEK HIS KINGDOM”, “33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY” and “34“For WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO.”):

“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)

In light of all these “Bible Verses”, are we doing the “Worship” which “God Wants?”

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

P/S: In an unrelated note, I was once stopped from Church Ministry for “not” taking their “membership class” which required a “public oath in front of Church Members” as part of “swearing in”. At that time I was fond of Christ Centered Universalism but though I have begun to take the middle ground that time itself, I dared not Oath myself to a Church Belief list as it could contain some errors too. So I refrained but I had to stop from music ministry at that Church. In fact even if a Church has 100% correct doctrine, these New Testament Verses still does “not” allow an “Religious Oath” to be made, can you see it as it is Written please?

 

The Danger of Religious “Oaths” or “Swearing”

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161586481167784

 

1) Lord Jesus Christ Forbade such Practices and Declared that any such urge to do OATHS/SWEARING may “not” come from God at all

 

“… 33“Again YOU HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID to those of [m]old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but SHALL PERFORM YOUR OATHS TO THE LORD.’ 34BUT I SAY TO YOU, DO NOT SWEAR AT ALL: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37But let [n]your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For WHATEVER IS MORE THAN THESE IS FROM THE EVIL ONE. .. ” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:33 – 37, NKJV)

 

This ‘Religious Oath’ Context Cancelling phrase in Christ’s Words above:

“… YOU HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID …  SHALL PERFORM YOUR OATHS TO THE LORD.’ 34BUT I SAY TO YOU, DO NOT SWEAR AT ALL …”

 

 

 

 

2) Apostle St. James Reveals further the “Judgment” (or “Condemnation” part as some translations render) for those practising it mentioning clearly THE OATH CONTEXT TOO AS EQUAL TO SWEARING

 

“… 12But above all, my brethren, DO NOT SWEAR, either by heaven or by earth or WITH ANY OTHER OATH. But let your “Yes” be “Yes,” and your “No,” “No,” LEST YOU FALL INTO [I]JUDGMENT. …” (James 5:12, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

 

Some Churches practice religious “swearing in” but I prefer “not” to take such risks (as Let God Reveal One Day if He Told them to do it as their denominations claim) but the “Safe Route Scripturally” is to NOT SWEAR AT ALL FOR ANY TYPE of it to be “Safe by Obeying these Verses for which there is “no” condemnation as this way is 100% approved in Holy Scripture as it is Written“, please allow me to repeat these Verses:

 

“… 34BUT I SAY TO YOU, DO NOT SWEAR AT ALL: … 37But let [n]your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For WHATEVER IS MORE THAN THESE IS FROM THE EVIL ONE. .. ” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:34, 37, NKJV)

 

 

 

Faith in Christ Definition by the Apostle of the Gentiles – Are we Preaching the same Gospel as Apostle St. Paul?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161578172862784

 

Faith in Christ definition of Paul (the cause) includes obeying His Commands (as the fruit of it).

 

Here are those Verses from the “Heavenly Vision” through which even Blessed Apostle St. Paul himself converted:

 

“… to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, THAT THEY MAY RECEIVE THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS AND AN INHERITANCE AMONG THOSE WHO ARE SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME. 19“Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, THAT THEY SHOULD REPENT, turn to God, and DO WORKS BEFITING REPENTANCE ….”  (Acts 26:18 – 20, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

“… THAT THEY SHOULD REPENT, turn to God, …” = Repentance alone (toward faith + holiness) is NOT enough

 

“…and DO WORKS BEFITING REPENTANCE ….” = which Includes the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as many New Testament Verses Testify by “Relative Measure”.

 

 

 

 

 

Here’s Apostle St. Paul Practicing the “Charity Doctrine” where “Alms = Charity” for “Purification” (“Cleansing”, not for rewards only):

 

“… 14But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I WORSHIP THE GOD OF MY FATHERS, BELIEVING ALL THINGS which are WRITTEN IN THE LAW AND IN THE PROPHETS. 15I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection [e]of the dead, both of the just and the unjust. 16This being so, I myself always strive to have a conscience without offense toward God and men. 17“NOW AFTER MANY YEARS I CAME to BRING ALMS AND OFFERINGS TO MY NATION, 18in the midst of which some Jews from Asia FOUND ME PURIFIED IN THE TEMPLE, neither with a mob nor with tumult. 19They ought to have been here before you to object if they had anything against me. 20Or else let those who are here themselves say [f]if they found any wrongdoing in me while I stood before the council, 21unless it is for this one statement which I cried out, standing among them, ‘Concerning the resurrection of the dead I am being judged by you this day.’ ” …” – Blessed St. Paul the Great Apostle of Christ (Acts of the Apostles, 24:14 – 21, NKJV)

 

Note: Please notice that “Alms = CHARITY DOCTRINE” and Blessed Apostle St. Paul did it for “Purification” (Doctrine of Sanctification) in Verses above clearly as CHRIST HIMSELF TAUGHT as follows:

 

“… [ 39Then the Lord said to him, ] “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [ and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

Gospel of Christ to Paul – Works of Repentance Doctrine and Fruits of the Spirit Mystery

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161578386577784

 

0) Why this is important?

 

“… But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. …” (Galatians 1:8, NKJV)

 

Comment: All we need to do in order to “not” preach “another gospel” is to “preach the same” as what Apostle St. Paul preached in this Book of Galatians itself. Can you see it?

 

The whole Theology of Apostle St. Paul’s Gospel is contained in Galatians 5, so let’s see these Verses in “full” as per in consecutive parts below:

 

“…1Stand[a] fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. 2Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is [b]a debtor to keep the whole law. 4You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. 5For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love. 7You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. 10I have confidence in you, in the Lord, that you will have no other mind; but he who troubles you shall bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased. 12I could wish that those who trouble you would even [c]cut themselves off! 13For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! 16I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [d]adultery, [e]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21envy, [f]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23[g]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another. …” (Galatians 5:1 – 26, NKJV)

 

1) Falling From Grace = Obeying unrelated Torah (Law) part such as Ritualistic Circumcisions

 

“… 1Stand[a] fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. 2Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is [b]a DEBTOR to KEEP the WHOLE LAW. 4You have become ESTRANGED FROM CHRIST, you who attempt to be justified by law; YOU HAVE FALLEN FROM GRACE …” (Galatians 5:1 – 4, NKJV)

 

2) Righteousness of Faith Doctrine includes the “Charity Doctrine” part of “Love your neighbor as yourself” which equals to Fulfilling ALL LAW (613 Torah Commandments)

 

“… 5For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. 7YOU RAN WELL. Who hindered you from OBEYING THE TRUTH? 8THIS PERSUASION DOES NOT COME FROM HIM [Christ] WHO CALLS YOU. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. 10I have confidence in you, in the Lord, that you will have no other mind; but he who troubles you shall bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased. 12I could wish that those who trouble you would even [c]cut themselves off! 13For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. 14For ALL THE LAW is FULFILLED IN ONE WORD, even in this: “YOUR SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF …” (Galatians 5:5 – 14, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

3) Works of Repentance = Walk in the Spirit is Chiefly the WORKS of HOLINESS of ABSTAINING from EVIL (so this part of the Torah/Law is part of the GOSPEL)

 

“… 15But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! 16I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: [d]adultery, [e]fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21envy, [f]murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.  …” (Galatians 5:15 – 21, NKJV)

 

4) Works of Repentance = Walk in the Spirit is NOT JUST ABSTAINING from EVIL (as listed earlier) but ALSO in DOING GOOD to PRODUCE the FRUITS of the SPIRIT (so this part of the Torah/Law is part of the GOSPEL too)

 

“… 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23[g]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another. …” (Galatians 5:22 – 26, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

  1. i) Some Christians preach ‘holiness only’ which is the Gift of “Self Control” Did you notice that “Self Control” (or “Holiness aspect by abstaining to do evil/sin”) is just “one” fruit of the Spirit?

 

  1. ii) I mean there are “other” fruits of the spirit which we need to cultivate to be a ‘mature Christian‘ which includes say “… love, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, and 23[g]gentleness …” in ACTION = CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of GIVING/SHARING this WORLD’S GOODS (be it Spiritual or Material goods to BENEFIT each other as that’s the DEFINITION of AGAPE/LOVE of GOD according to Verses below too):

 

“…  16BY THIS WE KNOW LOVE [AGAPE/LOVE]*, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to LAY DOWN OUR LIVES for the brethren. 17But whoever HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and sees his brother in need, and SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW does the LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, but IN DEED AND IN TRUTH. …” – Blessed St. John the only non-martyr Apostle of Christ (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)

 

iii) If you shared this World’s Good by God’s AGAPE (“Love”) and if people did not repent, it’s not your fault anymore as you did your part. However, if you didn’t and were also chasing prosperity and did not love by giving much (please remember ‘Relative Measure’ and not by amount as a big amount can be a ‘smaller relative measure’ as per Christ’s Definitions and Warning in Luke 21:1 – 3 and Luke 12:46 – 48 respectively), then God can hold you accountable (He Decides as it’s all “His Commands” in these “Verses”).

 

Conclusion

 

All the problem in Theology starts when we don’t quote the Verses in full and we apply it to topics “not” mentioned in those Verses.

 

There are ‘other Works of Repentance’ such as Praying, Fasting, etc.’ but none of it is Written with the Greatest Command of Loving God except this Charity Doctrine Command of “Love your neighbor as yourself“, Verses:

 

“… 29JESUS answered him, “The [k]first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [l]This is the first commandment. 31And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is NO OTHER COMMANDMENT GREATER THAN THESE.” …” (Mark 12:29 – 31, NKJV)

 

The Fact that the Sola Fide Preacher Apostle St. Paul himself Taught and Practiced this Charity Doctrine was discussed in earlier chapter or in link below with details:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161578172862784

 

 

The Message in Galatian 5 is clear in that the “Charity Doctrine of Love in Action” as the Work of “Faith Working through LoveFulfills “ALL LAW/TORAH (613 Commandments)” and is the PRIMARY WORK OF REPENTANCE, Verses to ‘highlight this part’:

 

“…  6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. 7YOU RAN WELL. Who hindered you from OBEYING THE TRUTH? 8This persuasion DOES NOT come FROM HIM who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. … THROUGH LOVE SERVE ONE ANOTHER. 14For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.” … AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW …” (Galatians 5:6 – 9, 13 – 14, 22, highlighted, NKJV)

 

So “ALL THE LAW [Torah’s 613 Commandments] IS FULFILLED” = “… LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” = CHARITY DOCTRINE

 

How do I know that the Context of “… LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” refers to the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle? (and not some abstract feeling without ‘equivalent action of sharing and giving for free tangible worldly and spiritual goods) Because CHRIST HIMSELF gave this definition as follows:

 

“… 25And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?” 26He said to him, “What is WRITTEN IN THE LAW? What is YOUR READING OF IT?” 27So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ ” 28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.” 29But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR?” 30Then JESUS ANSWERED and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had COMPASSION. 34So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and TOOK CARE OF HIM. 35On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘TAKE CARE OF HIM; and WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, when I come again, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:25 – 37, NKJV)

 

Summary

 

1) If “Loving your neighbor” referring to this “CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE” Fulfills ALL LAW, then “not” doing it could be equal to “BREAKING ALL LAW (TORAH), right?”

 

2) No other religious act be it “Praying, Fasting, Church Attendance, Worship or anything else” has been WRITTEN IN HOLY SCRIPTURE AS EQUAL TO FULFILLING ALL LAW (All the “Torah’s 613 Commandments“) EXCEPT THIS “… LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR …” which CHRIST HIMSELF Describes as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE in His Famous “Parable of the Good Samaritan” in Verses above clearly “as it is Written“. So, how can a True Church of Christ “not” Teach it as Doctrine?

 

 

3) Regardless, Preaching these Verses is “not” my personal opinion or human wisdom but exactly what’s WRITTEN IN ACTUAL BIBLE VERSES and BEST IS, BY LORD JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF and HE COMMANDS US TO DO IT, in His Own Most Blessed Words above as “… [Love] YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ ” 28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.”  …” (Luke 10:27 – 28, NKJV) and “… 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:36 – 37, NKJV) for which there IS NO CONDEMNATION TO PREACH CHRIST’S COMMAND HERE AS IT IS WRITTEN AS DOCTRINE.

 

 

4)  Even in “Judgment Day” Verses, Christ only Asks about what one did to the “… Hungry, Thirsty, Naked, Homeless etc. …” which are Çharity Doctrine Acts without which any idealogy/conversions doesn’t work or don’t matter in Matthew 25:31 – 46 clearly. Christ also clearly defines “His Sheep” to possess these Çharity Doctrine Act Qualities clearly.

 

Here’s a little deeper mystery for you to ponder: Some of the “Righteous (sheep)” did NOT EVEN KNOW the Lord much and that’s why they ask back as follows (but yet THE LORD KNOWS ALL THESE CHARITY DOCTRINE SHEEP as opposed to the “… Converting MANY based on Prophesying, Casting out Demons, Miracles in His Name ones whom HE DENIES as I NEVER KNEW YOU due to LAWLESSNESS …” in Matthew 7:20 – 24), Surprised Sheep Verses:

 

 

 

“… 37“Then the RIGHTEOUS WILL ANSWER Him, saying, ‘Lord, When Did We See You Hungry And Feed YOU, or THIRSTY AND GIVE YOU DRINK? 38WHEN DID WE SEE YOU A STRANGER and TAKE YOU IN, OR NAKED AND CLOTHE YOU? 39Or WHEN DID WE SEE YOU SICK, OR in PRISON, AND COME TO YOU?’ 40And THE KING WILL ANSWER and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I SAY TO YOU, INASMUCH AS YOU DID IT TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YOU DID IT TO ME.’ …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:37 – 40, NKJV)

 

5) Even your sins are covered from Judgment if you love like this (again, CHRIST HIMSELF TAUGHT THIS DIRECTLY as follows)

 

“… And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “LOVE will COVER a MULTITUDE OF SINS.” …”(1 Peter 4:8, NKJV)

 

“… Therefore I say to you, HER SINS, which are MANY, ARE FORGIVEN, for SHE LOVED MUCH. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 7:47, NKJV)

 

“… But LOVE COVERS ALL SINS. …” (Proverbs 10:12, NKJV)

 

Please allow me to repeat: Let us “not” get too prideful into thinking that we cannot be wrong. Please remember that God only Corrected Christianity of Virgin Mary Praying after 1000 years (500 AD to 1500 AD, there were “no” Protestant type of Christianity). In short, even for such a “crucial error in doctrine”, God didn’t Correct early, so neither must He Correct these which have been only done “oppositely” in “modern churches” against what is Written for about 100 years plus now. Can you see it? Please also remember that the Correction of Israel in the “Charity Doctrine Context in Prayer and Fasting” was done by GOD only AFTER SEVENTY YEARS they did it in “error” first (as discussed in Pages 250 to 251 using Zechariah 7:4 – 12 earlier too.)

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

Faith in Christ – What does it mean?

 

Faith in Christ includes obeying and Keeping “His Commandments” and ‘not by ritualistic Torah’ is what Apostle Paul meant here and Matthew 7:20 – 24 denies Lawless Christians while in the 7 letters in Revelation Christ clearly rejects the “Sola Fide” Churches for  all of them ‘have Faith in Christ’ but their WORKS were wrong from the sin of sexual immorality, doctrine of balak to the “Prosperity” sin of the Laodicean Church. In short, “Faith of Christ” includes “believing and Doing His Commands” be it imperfectly (Matthew 5:19 – 20).

 

#FaithinChrist

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

God’s Will in Works – What does Christ Like?

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161575699927784

 

Does He like a Church with “Works of Love” or a Church of “Prosperity self-enjoying type of converts”?

 

“… [These things says the Son of God, who has eyes like a flame of fire, and His feet like fine brass:] 19“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, LOVE, [I]SERVICE, FAITH, AND YOUR [J]PATIENCE; and AS FOR YOUR WORKS, the LAST ARE MORE THAN THE FIRST. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 2:19, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1) Christ doesn’t just point to “Faith” only in Verses above but “Works” too of “LOVE AND SERVICE“.

 

2) WORKS OF LOVE + “SERVICE” = Charity Doctrine Lifestyle

 

3) Christ is more pleased when the “Works increase” (by ‘Relative Measure’), phrase here

 

“… and AS FOR YOUR WORKS, the LAST ARE MORE THAN THE FIRST. …”

 

4) Relative Measure

 

We know that these “Works” are measured by “Relative Measure” as per Verse below from this same Book of Revelation too:

 

“… These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 9“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, TRIBULATION, AND POVERTY (BUT YOU ARE RICH) …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 2:8, NKJV)

Comment: Please notice the phrase “Poverty” carefully in the above which refers to “poor literally, financially on earth” but are “rich” (with treasure in heavens, implied by contrast here, e.g. Luke 12:31 – 24) by CHRIST HIMSELF which is implied by “Relative Measure” clearly.

 

Also if “more faith” implies “being more rich“, then isn’t this Church the opposite namely, “has more faith” but also “has more SUFFERING (TRIBULATION)” and is “MORE POOR as it is in POVERTY“.

 

This is Very clear in the comparison against the Laodicean Church whose only sin was “Prosperity in both Health and Wealth” which Christ doesn’t even Praise at all but actually implies it as “Spiritually blind, poor, miserable and naked“, Verses:

 

“… 15“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because YOU ARE LUKEWARM, and neither [k]cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I AM RICH, HAVE BECOME WEALTHY, and HAVE NEED OF NOTHING’—and do not know that YOU ARE WRETCHED, MISERABLE, POOR, BLIND, AND NAKED— 18I counsel you to BUY FROM ME GOLD REFINED IN THE FIRE, that YOU MAY BE RICH; and WHITE GARMENTS that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:15 – 18, NKJV)

 

So, “Faith in Christ” has nothing to do with “Prosperity on Earth” and best is CHRIST HIMSELF NEVER PRAISED EARTHLY BEING RICH TYPE OF PROSPERITY ONCE (If you say otherwise, please show me “one” Verse). May God Help us to Please Christ in “His Will“.

 

 

Peace to you

Does God see the “number of people” to see its “effect”?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161573074922784

 

No, not at all. Please notice carefully that the “Poor Widow’s” giving of “2 coins” may “not” have fed “much” (if “any”) when compared to the “rich’s giving out of abundance” which ‘helped many people in number’. But yet, God Still Said the “Poor Widow Gave More” and so it never matters regarding numbers and all that, Verses:

 

“… 1And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites.[a] 3So He said, “TRULY I say to you that this POOR widow has put in MORE THAN ALL; 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings [b]for God, but she OUT OF HER POVERTY PUT IN ALL THE LIVELIHOOD THAT SHE HAD.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 21:1 – 4, NKJV)

 

Note: The only reason Christ Gave above is “RELATIVE MEASURE” via ‘Willing Giving’ (nothing else He Pointed to). Mysterious, isn’t it?

 

Moral of the Story: Just do what you have to do willingly, and even if it doesn’t help or reach one person, you have done your part and are free from “Judgment” of “not doing Justice + Love of God” via giving in some way. Some people will support things based on whether it’s “their race, their religion, their church, their family, their friends, their wealth status etc.” .

 

For example, if giving was based on amount of people affected which matters to God, then it is “NOT” Fair for the poor because the rich have been privileged to have support financially. It’s a fact that you can sell the exact product or service but some people will only support their own race instead of an unbiased assessment fairly even in job selection too. So that’s why finance is usually biased except in some cases where individuals decide to be fair (let God Judge all but it’s an “unspoken” fact).

 

 

 

 

So such “politics” is easily overcome by Christ here where He doesn’t even bother about “the Rich’s Giving out of Abundance” as these Verses point as “God is Perfectly Fair”. In short, just make yourself available by “Relative Measure” to “Give” in some way, and whether people accept it or not, it doesn’t matter at all as you have done your part. Isn’t that perfectly fair to all? Now, the only ones who won’t like such an assessment given by Christ in these Verses are the ‘same ones’ who ‘benefit from such racism/biasedness as well, right?’

 

Which is of God then? Please decide for yourselves which is right.

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Salvation Cannot be Earned – Highlight from CHRIST’S WORDS ONLY

 

FEW Chosen” (Matthew 22:14) = “… 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:24, NKJV) above.

 

“His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

In short, “if Chosen”, one will be able to do “His Commands” by ‘Relative Measure’ and Vice Versa.

 

 

 

 

MYSTERY of DO HIS COMMANDMENTS – “WORKS” THEOLOGY

 

Conclusion

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

 

Sermon on the Mount Mystery (Matthew 5 to Matthew 7) – CHRIST’S Most Important Sermon

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161568788032784

 

As per quote in image, this Sermon on the Mount is FULL of CHARITY DOCTRINE VERSES of SHARING and GIVING toward ENEMIES even to HOLINESS Commands (including PRAYER and FASTING) as well with other COMMANDS for JUDGMENT.

 

So we should PREACH ALL of THESE AS IT IS WRITTEN in order to PREACH like CHRIST. Not one Verse in this ‘Sermon of Mount’ is about ‘End time Prophecies’ (proving that these are all secondary) or ‘how to receive earthly blessings to enjoy prosperity’ (which does NOT exist under the New Covenant, only “Contentment” regardless what is Given asking only for “Needs” & “Sharing, anything more”).

 

A Converting “MANY” Lawless Christianity is DENIED at the END of this SERMON of the MOUNT as follows for the REASON of “LAWLESSNESS” (NOT doing “His Commands’ type of “CONVERSIONS”):

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ  (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

“… But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and NOT DO THE THINGS WHICH I SAY? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:46, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

Which Commands?

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Mystery of Many Called Few Chosen – who are the “FEW” Chosen?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161571417157784

 

His “Grace” will exhibit the “Work” of Salvation in the “Few” Chosen, indeed it cannot be earned:

 

Comment: In Matthew 22 itself the Context of “… 14“For MANY are CALLED, but FEW are CHOSEN.” …” for those “… there who DID NOT HAVE on a WEDDING GARMENT. …” points to those “WHOSE WORKS” are described “Parabolically” as ‘… went to his own farm, another to his business …’ (Matthew 22:5) and who consisted of both ‘… good and bad …’ (Matthew 22:10). So, the invited Christians here seem to have some type of Faith in Christ as they responded and made it as “guests” at “His Wedding” but some are classified as “GOOD” while others as “BAD” based on “THEIR WORKS” as these Verses point ‘parabolically’ too. The “FEW” represents those with “GOOD WORKS” if viewed like this. Only God Knows but it’s entirely “possible” as other Verses agree. So to be ‘Safe Scripturally’, we should Preach to encourage “Good Works” (fulfilling any Commands of Christ from Holiness to Charity Doctrine) for Christians to fulfil by “Relative Measure”.

 

 

 

White Garments is NOT FAITH but GOOD WORKS as described in this ‘same Book of Revelation’:

 

“White Garment” = “Good Works in Action” (“Overcomers”, not holiness only) = “Righteous Acts of the Saints” (human Good Works letting God Work it through us, His Will), Verse:

 

“… 7Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8And to her it was granted to be ARRAYED IN FINE LINEN, CLEAN AND BRIGHT, for the FINE LINEN is the RIGHTEOUS ACTS OF THE SAINTS. 9Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he said to me, “These are the true sayings of God.” . …” (Revelation 19:7 – 9, NKJV)

 

Those with “Lawless Works” Will be the “Many” Denied despite “converting MANY based on ‘spiritual gifts such as Prophesying, Casting out Demons & Miracles claims instead of His Commands” (please notice the word “MANY” carefully):

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

FEW Chosen” (Matthew 22:14) = “… 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:24, NKJV) above.

 

Perhaps some of these could be “least” and be saved in the Second Resurrection 1000 years later, Revelation 20:5 (“possible” but let God Decide):

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

“His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

In short, “if Chosen”, one will be able to do “His Commands” by ‘Relative Measure’ and Vice Versa.

 

 

The Danger of Church Pride – Mystery of the Faithful Church

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161563345457784

 

It’s funny when someone follows what is actually Written in New Testament Scripture it is called Pride while doing against it is called good in some Churches. Human opinion doesn’t matter as it is biased and so let’s see what the Bible Verses and Church History shows.

 

Here’s a question to ponder: If your convert  will only believe in Christ if one denies these New Testament Traditions, who is the prideful one here? Would God be happy with such Converts? (In the Bible Verses in 1 Corinthians 11 to 14, Apostle Paul wrote AGAINST THOSE who DIDN’T WANT THESE NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS, so doesn’t that mean that God was “not” happy with them who speak and teach against these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS even if they’re saved?)

 

In Verses at the end (in image too), it Warns against “Church Pride” where one follows “Paul” while another follows “Apollos”. Now, what is the Bible trying to say here?

 

It clearly Says that the one who is “Puffed up/Arrogant” is the same one who “rejects these New Testament Traditions” by “going beyond what is Written” instead of Apostle St. Paul who Teaches the “same (even) traditions” for every Church.

 

“… Moreover it is REQUIRED in STEWARDS that ONE BE FOUND FAITHFUL. … Therefore JUDGE NOTHING BEFORE THE TIME, UNTIL THE LORD COMES, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God. 6Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be [c]PUFFED UP on behalf of one AGAINST the other. 7For who [d]MAKES YOU DIFFER FROM ANOTHER? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? … 14I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. 15For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16Therefore I URGE YOU, IMITATE ME. 17For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and FAITHFUL son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH.  …” (1 Corinthians 4:2, 5 – 7, 14 – 17, NKJV)

The Context for 1 Corinthians 4:16 above to “IMITATE Apostle Paul” is inclusive of NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS (and mostly those Commands) because ‘this SIMILAR PHRASE’ is reiterated at the start of 1 Corinthians 11 to 14 Which is full of SUCH TRADITIONS, Verse proving ‘this Context’:

 

“… 1IMITATE ME, just as I also IMITATE CHRIST. 2Now I PRAISE you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and KEEP the TRADITIONS just as I delivered them to you. …” (1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2, NKJV)

 

In the earlier Verses, the definition of a FAITHFUL CHURCH (Christian) is also Revealed namely as OBEYING these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS (so the opposite must mean less faithful, isn’t it? Phrase here: “… FAITHFUL son in the Lord …”) in the Context of “TEACHING these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS by APOSTLE ST. PAUL not just in the “Corinthian Church” (a myth believed by some Christians but is clearly disproved by this Verse itself) as ‘actual phrase’ used here is: “… as I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH.  …”, this part:

 

“… Moreover it is REQUIRED in STEWARDS that ONE BE FOUND FAITHFUL. … FAITHFUL son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH.  …” (1 Corinthians 4:2, 17, NKJV)

 

Please remember that in 1 Corinthians 11 itself we find Apostle Paul re-affirming that the “OTHER CHURCHES of GOD” (do NOT have ANY OTHER CULTURAL* CUSTOM/TRADITIONS), Verse:

 

“…16But if any man seem to be CONTENTIOUS, we have NO SUCH CUSTOM, NEITHER THE CHURCHES OF GOD. …” (1 Corinthians 11:4 – 16, NKJV)

 

*Simple Question: Why should God Respect “your cultural traditions” while YOU SPEAK AGAINST HIS NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS?

 

Please do the Reverse with “Scripture” namely that “Faithful” means “converting by doing against New Testament Traditions and with man made cultural observation and practices”? Can you see it?

 

 

Note: The Phrase “…NEITHER THE CHURCHES OF GOD …” means it refers to ANY CHURCH (Past or Present) and please be careful of those who are “CONTENTIOUS, we have NO SUCH CUSTOM, ” meaning those who SPEAK and DO AGAINST these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS/CUSTOMS proving this Context true again for which if we follow there is “no condemnation” too.

 

Note: Let us “not” get too prideful into thinking that we cannot be wrong. Please remember that God only Corrected Christianity of Virgin Mary Praying after 1000 years (500 AD to 1500 AD, there were “no” Protestant type of Christianity). In short, even for such a “crucial error in doctrine”, God didn’t Correct early, so neither must He Correct these which have been only done “oppositely” in “modern churches” against what is Written for about 100 years plus now. Can you see it? Please also remember that the Correction of Israel in the “Charity Doctrine Context in Prayer and Fasting” was done by GOD only AFTER SEVENTY YEARS they did it in “error” first (as discussed in Pages 250 to 251 using Zechariah 7:4 – 12 earlier too.)

 

 

 

What is meant by the CONTEXT of FAITHFUL in 1 Corinthians 4 here?

 

The Biblical Definition of FAITHFUL (in the Context of 1 Corinthians 4:2,7) itself here = FAITHFUL in TEACHING and OBEYING THESE NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS (1 Corinthians 4:16, 1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2) in EVERY CHURCH (1 Corinthians 4:17).

 

The Most Blessed HOLY SPIRIT of GOD has already PRAISED those WHO KEEP THESE TRADITIONS as Verses above prove (1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2, so why seek “human praise”?) And already reveal that these COMMANDS (“TRADITIONS”) are from LORD JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF and NOT Apostle St. Paul’s opinions so doing it is obeying the Lord and not Paul where the Verse continues IN ALL GENERALITY that ANY PROPHET or SPIRITUAL Person will first APPROVE THESE WRITTEN COMMANDS OF THE LORD (Chiefly referring to NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS from 1 Corinthians 11 to 1 Corinthians 14, which is what the “Context” is here as I have discussed with Protestant Founders even, in Pages 52 onward), Verse:

 

“… If anyone THINKS himself to be a PROPHET or SPIRITUAL, let him ACKNOWLEDGE that the things which I WRITE TO YOU ARE THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD. …” (1 Corinthians 14:37, NKJV)

 

So the best is to keep away from any Christianity which teaches against Written New Testament Traditions as that could be the ‘real pride’ as even by history they disobeyed all the Original Protestant Founders and made ways against it. So what’s wrong in disobeying their new ways and returning back to the NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS which even Blessed Martin Luther, Blessed John Cavin, Blessed Charles Spurgeon, Blessed John Wesley or even the Church Fathers Taught? (Are all these great man of God “Prideful” for obeying and teaching “Written New Testament Traditions”?)

 

 

New Testament Tradition Commands and Prophet Link:

 

For those obeying and upholding CHRIST’S COMMANDS in these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS (1 Corinthians 14:37, 2 Peter 3:2), this CONTEXT of the Verse below can be applied ‘as it’s HIS COMMANDS’ (not ‘human culture’):

 

“… 11Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:11 – 12, NKJV)

 

Note: The Context of a “Prophet” (Matthew 5:12 above) also matches here as  1 Corinthians 14:37 has the word “PROPHET” quoted in the CONTEXT of OBEYING FIRST ANY NEW TESTAMENT “WRITTEN” COMMANDS of the Lord. Can you see it please as it  is “Written”? So the “Church Fathers” to “early Protestant Leaders” who Taught the same could be the “Real Prophets“.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Do Miracles Prove whose Theology is Right?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161561616507784

 

No. Only the Written Bible Verses prove which Theology is Right but let God Decide.

 

Example: You can have one pastor preaching for their women in their Church to wear head covering when Praying doing Healing & Deliverance Ministry while on the other hand have another pastor doing the same healing and deliverance saying that women need not cover their heads when they pray in church even. The Bible Verses clearly Write that Women should do it and the earlier pastor is more accurate theologically on this point based on Christ’s Command (1 Corinthians 11 to 14).

 

Another example: despite teaching all these ‘strict Doctrine’ according to NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS, historical records Testify that Blessed Charles Spurgeon was used to do Miracles by God more than others and SO THEIR CLAIMS of HAVING SOME SPECIAL GIFTS only if WE DENY THESE BIBLE VERSES IS BASELESS (and hence the title ‘Prince of Preachers’ was conferred to him on account of his most widespread influence till today in Protestantism too), to quote:

 

Charles Spurgeon may have been used by GOD to HEAL MORE PEOPLE in MIRACLES despite all these ‘STRICT DOCTRINES he Preached and Believed’, to quote:

 

 

“… “Yet, NO MAN PROBABLY, IN ENGLAND or in AMERICA, IN THIS CENTURY, HAS EVER HEALED SO MANY PEOPLE as did MR. SPURGEON, although he was not himself a physician and never wrote prescriptions. He felt that there was UNEXPLAINABLE MYSTERY ABOUT THE WHOLE MATTER. Yet, he asserted that there was SOME POWER CONNECTED WITH PRAYER which ought to be used when persons were in pain and could be relieved by it.” from “The Life of Charles Haddon Spurgeon” by Russell H. Conwell. …”

 

Source (with more details):

https://www.healingandrevival.com/BioCHSpurgeon.htm

 

Note: I have quoted even Blessed Charles Spurgeon and the Protestant Founders even on Pages 52 to 64 in this #saferoutescripturallybook itself to show how the “strictly obeyed all these New Testament Commands and Traditions as it is Written for which there is “no condemnation as Holy Scripture only Praises such who keep it (example: 1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2)”.

 

“… 1Be ye FOLLOWERS OF ME, even as I ALSO AM OF CHRIST. 2Now I PRAISE you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and KEEP THE ORDINANCES, as I DELIVERED them to you. …” (1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2, KJV)

 

Conclusion

 

Here’s the Secret from “Bible Verses“:

 

1) Miracles are Gifts and Good but “not” a Command, Verses:

 

“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY [of Agape/Love]. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)

 

2) Even the Biblical Definition of FAITH is about “believing WITHOUT SEEING” and “believing WITHOUT RECEIVING” and so the Greatest Faiths to PLEASE GOD are about those aspects, Verses:

 

  1. i) FAITH is about “believing WITHOUT SEEING

 

“…Now FAITH is the substance of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of THINGS NOT SEEN. …” (Hebrews 11:1, NKJV)

 

“…For we were saved in this hope, but HOPE THAT IS SEEN IS NOT HOPE; for why does one still hope for what he sees? …” (Romans 8:24, NKJV)

  1. ii) FAITH is about “believing WITHOUT RECEIVING” on earth

 

The Greatest Faiths are all about NOT RECEIVING on EARTH but LOOKING FOR A HEAVENLY HOMELAND CONTEXT (hence things like “treasure in heavens” via the “Charity Doctrine Transaction” as Christ Taught in Luke 12:31 – 34 is the focus, anything “Heavenly“), Verses:

 

 

“… 13These ALL DIED in FAITH, NOT HAVING RECEIVED THE PROMISES, but having seen them afar off [e]were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. 15And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16But now they desire a better, that is, a HEAVENLY COUNTRY. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them….” (Hebrews 11:13 – 16, NKJV)

 

 

3) Here’s an Example First Christianity Quote where an Apostolic Father points that ANY SCRIPTURE is the UTTERANCE of the MOST BLESSED HOLY SPIRIT of GOD (that’s why we must be very careful to “not” go beyond what is Written as commanded in 1 Corinthians 4:6 – 7 to avoid ANY RISKS, Let God Decide):

 

“… Ye are fond of contention, brethren, and FULL OF ZEAL ABOUT THINGS which DO NOT PERTAIN TO SALVATION. LOOK CAREFULLY INTO THE SCRIPTURES, which are the TRUE UTTERANCES OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. Observe that nothing of an unjust or counterfeit character is written in them. …” – Blessed St. Clement of Rome, an Apostolic Father being a direct Disciple of the Blessed Apostle St. Peter (c.35 AD – c. 99 AD, 1 Clement, Chapter 44 – 45)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/1clement-roberts.html

 

 

 

 

 

4) The Greatest Miracle of All is to See the Saviour Himself (as what can be more desirable as a Gift for a Christian than to SEE THE RISEN CHRIST?)

 

But yet, CHRIST HIMSELF DECLARED that the EVEN MORE BLESSED WAY is “not to experience this greatest miracle even” (so other miracles clearly fall short of it in comparison) but rather to BELIEVE WITHOUT SEEING (which also implies to BELIEVE AND DO HIS COMMANDS WITHOUT EVEN A SINGLE MIRACLE) as when we meet Him One Day, the JOY is EVEN GREATER, Verses:

 

“… JESUS SAID TO HIM, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. BLESSED ARE THOSE who have NOT SEEN and YET HAVE BELIEVED.” …” (John 20:29, NKJV)

 

‘… Seek not the gifts but the GIVER OF THE GIFTS …’ – Blessed Sadhu Sundar Singh

 

To Seek CHRIST Most = Love Him Most = Obey His Commands (“notgifts all that which are “options” as we have seen) as He Himself Teaches in Verses below:

 

“… 15“If YOU LOVE ME, [d]KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. 16And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]HELPER, that He may ABIDE WITH YOUR FOREVER— 17the SPIRIT of TRUTH, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:15 – 17, NKJV)

 

Comment: Please notice how Christ Describes the “Spirit of Truth” to be a “Helper” in the Context of HELPING US OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS.

 

“… 21He WHO HAS MY COMMANDMENTS and KEEPS THEM, it is HE WHO LOVES ME. And he who loves Me will be LOVED BY MY FATHER, and I will LOVE HIM AND [F]MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.” 22Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?” 23JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID TO HIM, “If ANYONE LOVES ME, HE WILL KEEP MY WORD; and My FATHER WILL LOVE HIM, and WE WILL COME TO HIM AND MAKE OUR HOME WITH HIM. 24He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me. …” (John 14:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

FAQ on the Charity Doctrine

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161556606922784

 

 

Firstly, some may ask, can you go against your father’s words if it is against Bible Verses? Yes, we must choose to “Obey parents in the Lord” (Ephesians 6:1) where the phrase “in the Lord” means if they say/teach something against Scripture we do “not” need to obey it.

 

Once a Church Leader of the past asked me as I was leaving his church when I said I cannot “take an oath to their doctrines (for they could be wrong on some points and God Clearly Said don’t take any oaths IN HIS CHURCH as world’s pledges are NOT HIS but CEASER’S in Principle in Matthew 5:34”) for without that “oath” they said you cannot serve God there in ministry in their church anymore, so the leader played the ‘family card’ and said, ‘would God lead you to go against your father even?’ Let Christ Answer you below:

 

“… 34“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. ’35For I HAVE COME TO SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER’, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 10:34 – 37, NKJV)

 

Comment: The only “sword” Christ came to Bring “against Peace” is NOT EARTHLY WARS of Killing each other (as some Christians err) but ONLY WITHIN FAMILY where YOU CAN BE AGAINST YOUR FATHER EVEN if he is AGAINST CHRIST’S WORDS (Commands).

 

1) Question

 

Lot was declared aa righteous man in the epistle of Peter. The Lord refered to remember Lot’s wife and not Lot. Her heart was engrossed in materialistic life which forced her to turn back and became pillar of salt. In the conrext of contemporary church some will be like Lot and some will be Lots wife. The Luke chaper 17 also makes due reference to Noah’s day relating about sratus of conviction of faith in the last days. Today people are religious according to their own religiosity but lack love for god. The crux of the matter how is our personsl life ! Advusable not to waste time focusing on life style of others which they are accountable.

 

Reply

 

Everything here is correct except the last line which is selfish because to warn others is important:

 

This is important to as a Christian because we do not want Christ Questioning us one day regarding ‘Why we didn’t warn others?’ based on Verses below:

 

“… When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you shall surely die!’ and YOU DO NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED FROM HIS WAY, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; BUT HIS BLOOD I WILL REQUIRE AT YOUR HAND. Nevertheless IF YOU WARN the WICKED to TURN FROM HIS WAY, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but YOU HAVE DELIVERED YOUR SOUL. …” (Ezekiel 33:8 – 9, NKJV)

 

2) Question

 

“safe route” terminology denotes as if there are many routes leading to a destination. Only one is the safest. The Lord never spoke about this notion. He succinctly put I AM THE WAY. New terminoligy is created ti confuse people especially the self righteous ones.

 

Reply

 

It is the Lord Who Spoke Matthew 22 and Inspired Revelation 19:7 – 9 which refers to the WEDDING GARMENT as ANY RIGHTEOUS ACT (ACTION) of the SAINTS (be it holiness to CHARITY DOCTRINE, Inclusive)  and the Terminology is NOT confusing because the “Measure of Faith” implies that there are levels and differences which God Allows. So the Safe Route Scripturally is BIBLICAL and is a terminology to REFER TO NOT GOING BEYOND anything that IS WRITTEN to MAKE DIFFERENCES in DOCTRINE, Verses:

 

“… 6Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be [c]PUFFED UP ON BEHALF OF ONE AGAINST THE OTHER. 7For who [d]MAKES YOU DIFFER FROM ANOTHER? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? …” (1 Corinthians 4:6 – 7, NKJV)

Self righteousness is doing things what is NOT WRITTEN and also DOING and SPEAKING AGAINST WHAT IS WRITTEN as CHRIST clearly Defined it in Verses below making “their WORSHIP VAIN” for following MAN MADE WAYS (those NOT WRITTEN):

 

“… Thus you have made the [b]COMMANDMENT OF GOD OF NO EFFECT BY YOUR TRADITION. 7HYPOCRITES! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: 8‘These people [c]DRAW NEAR TO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH, And HONOR ME WITH THEIR LIPS, But THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. 9And IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.’ ” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 15:6 – 9, NKJV)

 

3) Question

 

After the church has been instituted through the holy spirit practices faith took effect. The practices of falsehood in many shapes and shades also have surfaced from the beginning and epistles were written to put things in persoective. Every believers are accountable for their faith and actions. No point focusing on lives of others. Shape your personal life according to scriptures.

 

Reply

 

Indeed, right the Holy Spirit of God made the CHURCH to OBEY NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS for 1900 years of CHRISTIANITY within PROTESTANTNISM itself? So we are PREACHING the SAME, so what’s Wrong? it is part of the Great Commission to PREACH the  “… , 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU …”, Verses:

 

“… 18And JESUS CAME AND SPOKE TO THEM, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. …” (Matthew 28:18 – 20, NKJV)

 

We are not focusing on anybody’s life but PREACHING BIBLE VERSES. If it contradicts their lives, that’s between them and God.

 

If it turns out to be the unforgivable Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:30 – 32) or you caused some to do that by following and speaking AGAINST these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS, are you going to be saved?

 

Examples:

 

  1. The Holy Spirit of God for the FIRST 1900 Years of Christianity even WITHIN PROTESTANT CHRISTIANITY ITSELF caused EVANGELISM in the WORLD WITHOUT a SINGLE WOMAN PASTOR EVEN and WITHOUT A SINGLE CHARISMATIC GIFT even among the PROTESTANT FOUNDERS AND CHAMPIONS OF FAITH.

 

  1. The Holy Spirit of God has Saved Souls before your Church or denomination existed.

 

iii. The Holy Spirit of God PRAISED those WHO PREACHED NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS

 

“… 1IMITATE ME, just as I also IMITATE CHRIST. 2Now I PRAISE you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and KEEP the TRADITIONS just as I delivered them to you. …” (1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2, NKJV)

 

  1. The Holy Spirit of God has INSTRUCTED the CHARITY DOCTRINE in MANY COMMANDS of the NEW TESTAMENT some by CHRIST HIMSELF to FULFILL the “Great Commission” without “omission” to obey this “… 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU …” (Matthew 28:20).

 

If you turn out be to be right in thy “new ways” and “God Really Spoke and told you can”, even so WE WILL NOT BE CONDEMNED for UPHOLDING THIS NEW TESTAMENT TRADITION SCRIPTURE WAY (as it was upholded by 1900 years of Christianity till today) and BEST STILL is THE WAY OF SCRIPTURE.

 

That’s why I don’t join any of your churches which contradict these at some points and we shape our personal lives according to these which we are comfortable indeed. It’s you who keep bugging from time to time to attend your church so perhaps you should practice first what you preach in this.

 

 

4) Question

 

Charity is not a doctrine. It is a practice of demonstrating faith. Haves can give charity. Have nots do not bother. Salvation is a doctrine applicable to ALL.

 

Reply

 

Firstly, “DOCTRINE” is anything which is WRITTEN in NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE“. So your own words CONTRADICT because if you believed that CHARITY is a practice of demonstrating faith, then THAT’S WHAT DOCTRINE IS!

 

CHARITY has the most number of Verses/Commands in Christ’s OWN COMMANDS itself in the Gospels. Example: Christ Spoke more of CHARITY DOCTRINE COMMANDS than of even worship, prayer and fasting even. So,  Charity is a Doctrine.

 

  1. i) Charity is part of the GOOD WORKS a CHRISTIAN will be PREDESTINED TO DO (by Relative Measure)

 

“… 8For by GRACE you have been SAVED THROUGH FAITH, and that NOT OF YOURSELVES; it is the GIFT OF GOD, 9NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast. 10For we are His workmanship, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS for GOOD WORKS, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. …” (Ephesians 2:8 – 10, NKJV)

 

We do not  believe that Good Works saves anyone. We also do not  believe that holiness nor any other religious practice (e.g. prayer, fasting, church attendance, worship) saves anyone either. However we do believe that a saved Christian would exhibit these Good Works as Ephesians 2:8 – 10 above Prophesies.  In other words, while we do not believe that Good Works Saves anyone we also believe that a saved person would do Good Works as they are predestined to do so according to Verses above.

 

 

 

 

  1. ii) Salvation Doctrine of FAITH WITHOUT LOVE IN ACTION (i,.e. the CHARITY DOCTRINE) does “not” save anyone as per Verses below

 

“… And though I have the GIFT OF PROPHECY, and understand all mysteries and ALL KNOWLEDGE, and though I have ALL FAITH, so that I could remove mountains, but HAVE NOT LOVE [AGAPE*], I AM NOTHING. …” (1 Corinthians 13:12, NKJV)

 

The Bible Defines the LOVE [AGAPE] meant in Verses above NOT MY OPINION as NOT ABSTRACT FEELINGS NOR LOVE IN WORDS but LOVE IN ACTION of SHARING/GIVING this WORLD’S GOODS, Verses:

 

“… 16BY THIS WE KNOW LOVE [AGAPE/LOVE]*, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to LAY DOWN OUR LIVES for the brethren. 17But whoever HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and sees his brother in need, and SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW does the LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, but IN DEED AND IN TRUTH. …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)

 

*Agape = Love of God in Action = Knowing it is Clearly Described as SHARING AND GIVING this WORLD’S GOODS which is the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as Fruit of Salvation (not cause of it). Yes, even “ALL ACCURATE FAITH + GIFTS OF PROPHECY/BIBLE KNOWLEDGE” WITHOUT THIS AGAPE/LOVE SAVES NO ONE, as Verses above clearly reveal.

 

You should ask yourself “why do you always SPEAK AGAINST these VERSES or REFUSE to TEACH THEM to OTHERS?”

 

Is it because your children are NOT doing it or because you like prosperity and so don’t like such doctrines and prefer to travel the world with the money instead or some other BIAS NOT BASED on SCRIPTRURE and PLAINLY AGAINST what is WRITTEN here?

 

or is it because YOU ARE ANGRY THAT MONEY from your children is NOT SPENT on YOUR LUXURY BEYOND NEEDS but OTHERS’s NEEDS instead (jealousy)?

 

 

 

iii) Charity is a Doctrine for SEEKING the KINGDOM of GOD with the RIGHT HEART to attain to “Heavenly Treasures” (a transaction is implied), Verses:

 

“…  31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)

 

“… 15But He said to them, “Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed; for NOT EVEN when ONE IS AFFLUENT does his life CONSIST OF HIS POSSESSIONS.”  … 21 So is he who LAYS UP TREASURE FOR HIMSELF, and is NOT RICH TOWARD GOD …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:15, 21, NKJV)

 

No one can do a “New Way” against “What Christ Said”. Same Rule for each Christian “as it is Written”.

 

  1. iv) CHARITY is a DOCTRINE of INWARD CLEANSING from INWARD LAWLESSNESS as NO OTHER RELIGIOUS ACT in Scripture is Stated and NOT DIRECTLY from CHRIST EXCEPT THIS (so it’s a Doctrine of Sanctification)

 

“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 42, NKJV)

 

Note: “Alms” = “Charity”

 

That should reveal to us that MONEY SINS are the “Worst there is” and it is also clear in the “lives of the Pharisees likewise” (whom Christ attacked vehemently) where CHRIST DOES NOT point once that the Pharisees committed “adultery, murder, witchcraft, idolatry,” BUT HE POINTED their “PROSPERITY SINS” (Christ’s Phrase “Self Indulgence” in Matthew 23:25) with “Tithe collecting” (for self survival) but NOT CARING for the ALMSGIVING (CHARITY DOCTRINE) and especially “not” with their money as even Luke 11:39 – 42 has clearly Described this Context in Christ’s Most Blessed Words as it is Written calling them “whitewashed tombs” (because ‘outwardly they were religious in praying, fasting and Church Attendance with NO adultery, NO Murder, NO Witchcraft, NO idolatry etc’). To quote:

 

“… 25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you CLEANSE THE OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and dish, but INSIDE THEY ARE FULL OF EXTORTION and [l]SELF-INDULGENCE. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also. 27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like WHITEWASHED TOMBS which indeed appear BEAUTIFUL OUTWARDLY, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also OUTWARDLY APPEAR RIGHTEOUS TO MEN, but INSIDE YOU ARE FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND LAWLESSNESS. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 23:25 – 28, NKJV)

 

  1. v) CHARITY is a DOCTRINE which God Corrected Israel itself only AFTER SEVENTY YEARS of WRONGLY FASTING and PRAYING without it too

 

Please notice carefully that God Only Asked about this AFTER SEVENTY YEARS they have practicing such “religious observation faithfully” and NEVER CORRECTED THEM EARLIER ALLOWING THEM TO BE IN ERROR FOR SUCH A LONG TIME. The CHARITY DOCTRINE CORRECTION aspect so that THEIR FASTING AND PRAYERS are ACCEPTED is SEEN WHEN THESE VERSES are quoted in “full” as follows:

 

“… 4Then THE WORD OF THE LORD of hosts came to me, saying, 5“Say to ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND, and TO THE PRIESTS: ‘WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME? 6When YOU EAT AND WHEN YOU DRINK, DO YOU NOT EAT AND DRINK FOR YOURSELVES? 7Should you not have OBEYED THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD proclaimed through the FORMER PROPHETS when Jerusalem and the cities around it were inhabited and prosperous, and the [f]South and the Lowland were inhabited?’ ”

8Then THE WORD OF THE LORD CAME TO ZECHARIAH, saying, 9“Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘EXECUTE TRUE JUSTICE, Show [g]MERCY AND COMPASSION Everyone to his brother.  10Do not OPPRESS THE WIDOW OR THE FATHERLESS, The ALIEN OR THE POOR.

Let none of you plan evil in his heart Against his brother.’ 11“But they refused to heed, shrugged[h] their shoulders, and stopped[i] their ears so that they could not hear. 12Yes, they made their hearts like flint, REFUSING TO HEAR THE LAW and THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD OF HOSTS had sent by HIS SPIRIT THROUGH THE FORMER PROPHETS. Thus GREAT WRATH came from the Lord of hosts.  …” (Zechariah 7:4 – 12, NKJV)

Comment: OPRESSING the POOR or WIDOW or FATHERLESS is “not” just when one does direct harm but also WHEN ONE DOES NOT GIVE GOD’s MONEY or CHURCH MONEY to them as CHRIST HAS WARNED LIKEWISE in Luke 11:39 – 42 as I have discussed at the end of this Book in detail too.

 

(this means other religious acts be it ‘praying, fasting, church attendance, worship[, etc.’ are only accepted as much as this Charity Doctrine is done in OBEDIENCE first as discussed in Previous posts with other Verses too such as Isaiah 1:10 – 20, Amos 5:10 – 12, 21 – 24, Isaiah 58:3, 7 – 9, James 1:27, Luke 11:39 – 41).

 

  1. vi) Charity is a Doctrine if Tithes is a Doctrine but the difference is Charity fulfills the “Justice and Love of God” but Tithes does “not” as it’s for clergy’s survival & personal church expenses (for member’s benefits only).

 

You Preached and believed in “Tithes” for all these years and can accept “TITHES as DOCTRINE” but “CHARITY is NOT DOCTRINE is it?”

 

The strange thing is that to ENFORCE TITHES as a DOCTRINE from CHRIST, you (or your church) is quoting these same set of Verses (can you see it?), let’s repeat the Verses please:

 

“… 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For YOU TITHE mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:41 – 42, NKJV)

 

Please note the Phrase “…. These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE.  …” is inclusive of the ONLY RELIGIOUS ACT CHRIST MENTIONS HERE (Context as ‘it is Written) referring to “… 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” which is the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE which is a MUST for any TRUE CHRISTIAN (according to ‘Relative Measure‘, implied) as CHRIST DIDN’T SAY it is an “option” but a “requirement” as His Phrase here is:

 

“… These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE.  …”

 

and from “WHAT YOU HAVE” (meaning NOT money collected in the Name of God only and Neither are the Priests/Pastors exempt from it as the ‘Pharisees were such’).

 

In short,  ‘believing in Christ’ and ‘continuing living like that’ wouldn’t HAVE SAVED the PHARISEES either as “True believing in Christ would do these ALMSGIVING or CHARITY DOCTRINE as CHRIST WARNS here as the LOVE OF GOD and JUSTICE He Refers to” instead of “Prosperity” (Self-Indulgence) as these Pharisees did.

 

Also, if tithes is a doctrine based on Christ’s Words here for this New Testament, those Churches have already (unknowingly) accepted CHARITY as a DOCTRINE too because it is the SAME VERSE! (you cannot pick and choose from the same Verse: Either we Teach “both as Doctrine” or “Ignore Both” as all will be JUDGED based on #WhatHeSaid ).

 

Also, the real reason you may be actually angry on Charity Doctrine is because the “money” is “not” given to you “beyond needs” (for world travel etc.) or also because it does “not” fulfill “your desire” to “see your children have get married or have kids” (spend money on these) but the money is spent on those who are “not” your blood.

 

However, this is a personal choice and you should respect that if your children decide to “not” marry so that they can focus on these things instead of trying to manipulate them to “do your will”.

 

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vii) CHARITY is a DOCTRINE for PERFECTION where even KEEPING ALL THE HOLINESS COMMANDS of the TORAH (LAW) did NOT FULFILL this “LACK” as CHRIST TAUGHT as follows: If you want to be “Perfect” in God’s Will, “yes”, Verses:

 

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I STILL LACK?” 21JESUS said to him, “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS.23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, NKJV)

 

Please notice the word “Perfect” carefully in Verse above. So any “Perfection” of ‘Spiritual Growth’ (Context of Commandments here) involves this. So if we fall short of it, we fall short of the perfection by relative measure though not necessarily unsaved.

 

5) Question

 

The Lord is my shepherd. Knowledge about other shepherd is irrelevant for salvation.

 

Reply

 

Indeed, then please follow the “Charity Doctrine” which Christ Commanded (e.g. Luke 11:39 – 42) as a “Doctrine” and NOT follow other shepherds which preach against this.

 

Charity Doctrine affects Salvation as these Verses next will prove.

 

Charity Doctrine (or “Labor of Love” phrase used here, you can call it different names as long as it means the same thing) is called the HIGHER DOCTRINE in SCRIPTURE where the Word “Elementary” (Basic) is used for these Doctrines ‘… FOUNDATION of REPENTANCE FROM DEAD WORKS  and OF FAITH TOWARD GOD, 2of the DOCTRINE OF BAPTISMS, of LAYING OF HANDS, of RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, and of ETERNAL JUDGMENT. …’

 

LABOR of LOVE Verse as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE for Matured Christians

“… 1Therefore, LEAVING THE DISCUSSION OF THE ELEMENTARY PRINCIPLES OF CHRIST, let us GO ON TO [a]PERFECTION, NOT laying again the FOUNDATION of REPENTANCE FROM DEAD WORKS  and OF FAITH TOWARD GOD, 2of the DOCTRINE OF BAPTISMS, of LAYING OF HANDS, of RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, and of ETERNAL JUDGMENT. 3And THIS [b]we will do IF GOD PERMITS. … 9But, beloved, we are confident of BETTER THINGS  CONCERNING YOU, YES, THINGS THAT ACCOMPANY SALVATION, though we speak in this manner. 10For God is not unjust to forget YOUR WORK and [d]LABOR OF LOVE which you have shown toward His name, IN THAT YOU HAVE MNISTERED TO THE SAINTS, and DO MINISTER. 11And WE DESIRE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU SHOW THE SAME DILLIGENCE TO THE FULL ASSURANCE OF HOPE UNTIL THE END, 12that you do not become [e]sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience INHERIT the promises. …” (Hebrews 6:1 – 3, 9 – 12, NKJV)

 

Comment: Surprising to most, the “only” Doctrine Toward “Perfection” mentioned immediately next (after Hebrews 6:1 – 3)  after Warning of some backsliding Christians who will “not” even pass this Basic/Elementary Doctrines (in Hebrews 6:4 – 8.), not quoted here to focus on this core part) which turns out to be … (you guessed it) … chiefly of the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE in Verses above clearly with “no” other religious action mentioned (Hebrews 6:9 – 12).

Charity Doctrine part in Verses above = “… LABOR OF LOVE which you have shown toward His name, IN THAT YOU HAVE MNISTERED TO THE SAINTS, and DO MINISTER….”

The CHARITY DOCTRINE aspect is NOT an option for ‘some Christians’ as the Verse above continues implying it FOR ALL CHRISTIANS clearly as the WORK OF FAITH REQUIRED (by Relative Measure): “… 11And WE DESIRE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU SHOW THE SAME DILLIGENCE TO THE FULL ASSURANCE OF HOPE UNTIL THE END, 12that you do not become [e]sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience INHERIT the promises. …”.

 

How can CHARITY DOCTRINE be the HIGHER DOCTRINE? Because:

 

  1. i) Doctrines are based on COMMANDMENTS and Charity Doctrine is with the GREATEST COMMANDMENT

 

“… 29JESUS answered him, “The [k]first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [l]This is the first commandment. 31And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is NO OTHER COMMANDMENT GREATER THAN THESE.” …” (Mark 12:29 – 31, NKJV)

 

Without a “Doctrine of Love in Action (not words only)”, such “Faith” contradicts these Verses:

 

“…  6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. 7YOU RAN WELL. Who hindered you from OBEYING THE TRUTH? 8This persuasion DOES NOT come FROM HIM who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. … THROUGH LOVE SERVE ONE ANOTHER. 14For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.” … AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW …” (Galatians 5:6 – 9, 13 – 14, 22, highlighted, NKJV)

 

Note: the “as yourself” part is the hardest.

“… For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” (Galatians 5:14, NKJV)

 

So “ALL THE LAW [Torah’s 613 Commandments] IS FULFILLED” = “… LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” = CHARITY DOCTRINE

 

How do I know that the Context of “… LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” refers to the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle? Because CHRIST HIMSELF gave this definition discussed next.

 

  1. ii) Which Doctrine is Important for Eternal Life?

 

Let CHRIST ANSWER you clearly in Verses below that HE HIMSELF TEACHES that the CHARITY DOCTRINE is the PERFECT WAY of FULFILLING both THESE GREATEST COMMANDMENTS mentioned above (Same Topic, Same Context) as He Answers in Another Occasion as follows (but THIS TIME WITH DETAILS REGARDING WHAT HE MEANT instead of man-made interpretations), Verses:

 

“… 25And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?” 26He said to him, “What is WRITTEN IN THE LAW? What is YOUR READING OF IT?” 27So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ ” 28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.” 29But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR?” 30Then JESUS ANSWERED and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had COMPASSION. 34So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and TOOK CARE OF HIM. 35On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘TAKE CARE OF HIM; and WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, when I come again, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:25 – 37, NKJV)

 

Note: Also, CHRIST Said that the “Good Samaritan” got “Eternal Life” as opposed to the “Priest/Levite” (who knew Theology better) in His Parable of the Good Samaritan for missing the Charity Doctrine as God’s Will (Luke 10:25 – 37) as Samaritans depict those with imperfect Theology too by CHRIST too (in John 4:22 – 23).

 

So this CHARITY DOCTRINE is the DOCTRINE which matters for SALVATION (where Preaching and Practicing this in any little way we can has “no” condemnation in Scripture as ‘it is Written’).

 

6) Jesus ministry focused on Jewish community whose life style were subjected to law of Moses. Grace manifested through crucifixion, resurrection and his coming and Holy Spirit is taking this message to all commuunities in the world. Every community is levelled up for free gift of salvation through the Lord.

 

Reply

 

Believing in Christ and Converting “many” did NOT SAVE the END-TIME LAWLESS CHRISTIANITY of Matthew 7:20 – 24. So, what’s the Secret here? “Preach and do” CHRIST’S NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS as Matthew 7:24 (same topic, consecutive Verses here Prove as it is Written):

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

Please notice the words “Obey His Commands” which is what the HOLY SPIRIT of God HELPS us to OBEY, Verses:

 

“… 15“If YOU LOVE ME, [d]KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. 16And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]HELPER, that He may ABIDE WITH YOUR FOREVER— 17the SPIRIT of TRUTH, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:15 – 17, NKJV)

Comment: Please notice how Christ Describes the “Spirit of Truth” to be a “Helper” in the Context of HELPING US OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS. Gifts are an option not Command, example Verses:

 

“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY [of Agape/Love]. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)

 

That is why we don’t “RISK” anyone’s FAITH to GO AGAINST NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS.

 

“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

Yes, Matthew 7:20 – 24’s End Time Christianity did “… Prophesying, Casting Out Demons, Miracles … conversions of MANY …” but Christ Says, “… I NEVER KNEW YOU …” due to LAWLESSNESS. Matthew 5:19 – 20 Christ Says one’s righteousness will need to exceed the Pharisees in obedience to “His Commands” (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

Even in “Judgment Day” Verses, Christ only Asks about what one did to the “… Hungry, Thirsty, Naked, Homeless etc. …” which are Çharity Doctrine Acts without which any idealogy/conversions doesn’t work or don’t matter in Matthew 25:31 – 46 clearly. Christ also clearly defines “His Sheep” to possess these Çharity Doctrine Act Qualities clearly.

 

Here’s a little deeper mystery for you to ponder: Some of the “Righteous (sheep)” did NOT EVEN KNOW the Lord much and that’s why they ask back as follows (but yet THE LORD KNOWS ALL THESE CHARITY DOCTRINE SHEEP as opposed to the “… Converting MANY based on Prophesying, Casting out Demons, Miracles in His Name ones whom HE DENIES as I NEVER KNEW YOU due to LAWLESSNESS …” in Matthew 7:20 – 24), Surprised Sheep Verses:

 

“… 37“Then the RIGHTEOUS WILL ANSWER Him, saying, ‘Lord, When Did We See You Hungry And Feed YOU, or THIRSTY AND GIVE YOU DRINK? 38WHEN DID WE SEE YOU A STRANGER and TAKE YOU IN, OR NAKED AND CLOTHE YOU? 39Or WHEN DID WE SEE YOU SICK, OR in PRISON, AND COME TO YOU?’ 40And THE KING WILL ANSWER and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I SAY TO YOU, INASMUCH AS YOU DID IT TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YOU DID IT TO ME.’ …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:37 – 40, NKJV)

 

Last but not least, please remember that the “Denied” Christians all were claiming ‘spiritual gifts type of focus such as casting out demons or prophesying or miracles in His Name’ but CHRIST DENIES them plainly giving the reason of “LAWLESSNESS” (i.e. “not” obeying “HIS COMMANDS”) and so no one is denied for OBEYING HIS WORDS which HE LIKENS to BUILDING A HOUSE ON THE ROCK in these same set of Verses (hence ‘same context’ in Matthew 7:20 – 24) and so there’s “no” self righteousness or dangerous theology in “obeying His Words”. These Verses:

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

Please notice carefully that the HOUSE BUILT on the ROCK which is compared against all these spiritual gifts based conversion of an end time Christianity (“On THAT DAY”) of MANY is different in only one point namely, the “saved Christian who built his house on the ROCK (of Christ)” refers to “not just preaching or glorifying Christ in Words” which is Hypocrisy UNLESS it is FOLLOWED by PREACHING and DOING HIS NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS as PROOF OF FAITH IN ACTUAL WORKS (the other type of conversions which are NOT based on HIS NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS are called LAWLESS and REJECTED here and where is the Threshold? God Alone Decides as He has Mercy on Whomever He Wills) but this is what “God’s Will” is, Verse:

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of THESE COMMANDMENTS, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; but whoever DOES AND TEACHES THEM, he shall be called GREAT in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 20For I say to you, that unless YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS EXCEEDS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by NO MEANS ENTER THE KINGDOM of HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19 – 21, NKJV)

Please notice carefully that the LAODICEAN CHURCH did NOT HAVE “WHITE GARMENTS” even though they were FINANCIALLY PROPEROUS and had MANY CONVERTS and were HEALTH-WISE PROSPEROUS on EARTH and to “Correct” them Christ DID NOT Point to THEIR FAITH but “THEIR WORKS” which was Wrong (yes please notice the phrase “YOUR WORKS” carefully in Verses below):

 

“… 15“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because YOU ARE LUKEWARM, and neither [k]cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I AM RICH, HAVE BECOME WEALTHY, and HAVE NEED OF NOTHING’—and do not know that YOU ARE WRETCHED, MISERABLE, POOR, BLIND, AND NAKED— 18I counsel you to BUY FROM ME GOLD REFINED IN THE FIRE, that YOU MAY BE RICH; and WHITE GARMENTS that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:15 – 18, NKJV)

 

Note: I repeat, the ONLY SIN of the Laodicean Church was “Prosperity” (nothing else is Written as Christ points to other Church to have ‘sexually immoral or Doctrine of Nicolaitans or Balak etc.’). They had some type of “FAITH in Christ with PROSPERITY focus” BUT did NOT HAVE the CHARITY DOCTRINE as First Christianity quote below reveals this Context too likewise (example from Page 182 from the #AlmsgivingandAtonementMysteryBook ):

 

“… “Just as lukewarm water causes people who receive it to vomit,” he says, “hence I too, through a word of my mouth will vomit you like DETESTED FOOD INTO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, for you MINGLED THE THORNS OF RICHES with the seed of the divine word216 in your own poverty by spiritual ignorance, and the blindness of your intelligible217 eyes AND THE NAKEDNESS OF GOOD DEEDS.”218 Rev. 3:18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you will become rich, and that you MAY PUT ON WHITE GARMENTS, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see. “If you would be rich,” he says, “to acquire a burning résolve and a willing heart take refined gold from me, the Enricher, the instructive Word illumined by the fire of 9 1 0 trials, through which you will hâve the inviolable treasure in the heart and be clothed in the most BRILLIANT GARMENT [44] OF VIRTUES through which the NAKEDNESS ATTACHED TO YOU FROM SIN 990 WILL BE COVERED.” EYE SALVE (IS) ALSO LACK OF POSSESSIONS. …” – Blessed St. Andreas/Andrew, Bishop of Caesarea, Earliest* Greek Patristic commentary on the Apocalypse (c. 563 AD – c. 637 AD)

Source [ Point 43 – 44 , Pages 51 – 52, Chapter 9 ] :

https://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/2008_constantinou_andrew-translation.pdf

[does not exist now?]

 

New Link for this Quote (example Page 78 part 1 and 2), Example Source:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Commentary-Apocalypse-Fathers-Church-Patristic/dp/0813228115

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Church Finance Politics  and New Testament Traditions Issues

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161549481877784

 

 

1) New Testament Traditions and how it is Scripture  has been discussed in post in link below

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161548055502784

 

 

Thus following this Way of Scripture and Church History for the first 1900 years of Christianity which had “no” other way apart from “obeying all these New Testament Traditions” (as many churches still do today), is 100% Approved Way as OBEYING THE WORD OF GOD as these Verses confirm beautifully and thus has “no” condemnation.

 

“… ALL SCRIPTURE is given by INSPIRATION of GOD, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, …” (2 Timothy 3:16, NKJV)

 

Since all SCRIPTURE is by the MOST BLESSED HOLY SPIRIT of GOD and can be USED FOR DOCTRINE (as 2 Timothy 3:16 above clearly Reveals) so we can FOLLOW THIS NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS as IT IS WRITTEN.  So our DOCTRINE here for this is 100% Approved of God. Can you see it please?

 

Also, Teaching or Speaking against HIS COMMANDS or TRADITIONS here which ARE SCRIPTURE has the RISK OF THE UNFORGIVABLE BLASPHEMY of THE HOLY SPIRIT (we cannot say for sure because ONLY GOD CAN DECIDE that) but we WARN of the DANGER and LEAVE it to your decision).

 

 

If it turns out to be the unforgivable Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:30 – 32) or you caused some to do that by following and speaking AGAINST these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS, are you going to be saved?

 

 

If you turn out be to be right in thy “new ways” and “God Really Spoke and told you can”, even so WE WILL NOT BE CONDEMNED for UPHOLDING THIS NEW TESTAMENT TRADITION SCRIPTURE WAY (as it was upholded by 1900 years of Christianity till today) and BEST STILL is THE WAY OF SCRIPTURE.

 

 

 

Also, every racist Tom, Dick and Harry would want to evangelize their own race or the rich and so decide Church Money to be spent on “saving souls excuse” but neglect the “poor financially souls”.

 

If not true, please do some “free ministry programs for the poor such as free Math classes or something paying the teacher only” (if none are willing in your denomination/church, I will do this for you).

 

If not, the claim is true as your Tadika ministry to Homeschool can only afforded by the rich and targets such income group people only with CHURCH MONEY for SUCH MINISTRIES or SALARIES for SUCH (even if they pay for the FEES this is NOT what THE CHURCH PREMISES ought to do UNLESS an EQUAL RELATIVE MEASURE of that CHURCH MONEY or PROFIT is SPENT ON THE POOR, “percentage count”, do the Math as God Will, example Luke 21:1 – 4).

 

Knowing and NOT knowing God’s WILL IN THIS as many Bible Verses Testify (you can see from the free recent pdf Books too) DOES NOT EXEMPT YOU or YOUR CHURCH as INNOCENT but ONLY whether it MERITS MORE or LESS PUNISHMENTS accordingly, Verses:

 

“…, 46the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47And that SERVANT WHO KNEW HIS MASTER’s WILL,  and DID NOT PREPARE himself or do according to his will, SHALL BE EATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. 48But HE WHO DID NOT KNOW YET COMMITTED THINGS DESERVING OF STRIPES, SHALL BE BEATEN WITH FEW. For EVERYONE TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, FROM HIM MUCH IS REQUIRED; and TO WHOM MUCH IS COMMITTED, of HIM THEY WILL ASK THE MORE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:46 – 48, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

  1. The Verse above speaks of the Context of believers (“servant”) as if he does the same as how the unbelievers likewise show partiality in politics to favor their race with Government Money or equivalent, they end up likewise, phrase here “… appoint him his portion with the unbelievers …”.

 

 

  1. Many Beatings for Christians who knew GOD’s WILL (example in this Church Finance area)

“… 7And that SERVANT WHO KNEW HIS MASTER’s WILL,  and DID NOT PREPARE himself or do according to his will, SHALL BE EATEN WITH MANY STRIPES.  …”

 

  1. Few Beatings for Christians who DID NOT KNOW GOD’s WILL (example in this Church Finance area)

“… 48But HE WHO DID NOT KNOW YET COMMITTED THINGS DESERVING OF STRIPES, SHALL BE BEATEN WITH FEW. …”

 

  1. Relative Measure

“… For EVERYONE TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, FROM HIM MUCH IS REQUIRED; and TO WHOM MUCH IS COMMITTED, of HIM THEY WILL ASK THE MORE. …”

 

Conclusion

This same Judgment does “not” apply just to “your Church” but “ours too” and gathering of believers if they Collect Money in God’s Name or individually too (so it is fair to all) and by relative measure (% count as per Luke 21:1 – 4).

 

If these elements of Doctrine were True, why God did NOT correct me or you earlier?

 

Please remember, that even FOR 70 YEARS they PRAYED and FASTED but WERE WRONG God ONLY REVEALED THIS CHARITY DOCTRINE ASPECT AFTER THAT (letting them to be WRONG for such a LONG TIME with regards to this CHARITY DOCTRINE CONTEXT), Verses:

 

“…  ‘WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME?  …” (Zechariah 7:5, NKJV)

 

Please notice carefully that God Only Asked about this AFTER SEVENTY YEARS they have practicing such “religious observation faithfully” and NEVER CORRECTED THEM EARLIER ALLOWING THEM TO BE IN ERROR FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.

 

The CHARITY DOCTRINE CORRECTION aspect so that THEIR FASTING AND PRAYERS are ACCEPTED is SEEN WHEN THESE VERSES are quoted in “full” as follows:

 

“… 4Then THE WORD OF THE LORD of hosts came to me, saying, 5“Say to ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND, and TO THE PRIESTS: ‘WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME? 6When YOU EAT AND WHEN YOU DRINK, DO YOU NOT EAT AND DRINK FOR YOURSELVES? 7Should you not have OBEYED THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD proclaimed through the FORMER PROPHETS when Jerusalem and the cities around it were inhabited and prosperous, and the [f]South and the Lowland were inhabited?’ ”

8Then THE WORD OF THE LORD CAME TO ZECHARIAH, saying, 9“Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘EXECUTE TRUE JUSTICE, Show [g]MERCY AND COMPASSION Everyone to his brother.  10Do not OPPRESS THE WIDOW OR THE FATHERLESS, The ALIEN OR THE POOR.

Let none of you plan evil in his heart Against his brother.’ 11“But they refused to heed, shrugged[h] their shoulders, and stopped[i] their ears so that they could not hear. 12Yes, they made their hearts like flint, REFUSING TO HEAR THE LAW and THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD OF HOSTS had sent by HIS SPIRIT THROUGH THE FORMER PROPHETS. Thus GREAT WRATH came from the Lord of hosts.  …” (Zechariah 7:4 – 12, NKJV)

Comment: OPRESSING the POOR or WIDOW or FATHERLESS is “not” just when one does direct harm but also WHEN ONE DOES NOT GIVE GOD’s MONEY or CHURCH MONEY to them as CHRIST HAS WARNED LIKEWISE in Luke 11:39 – 42 as I have discussed at the end of this Book in detail too.

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Safe Route Scripturally  – What is the Wedding Garment?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161552296927784

 

Wedding of the Lamb = First Resurrection = Few Saved.

 

Other support quotes from earlier books:

 

 

1) #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook (Page 82)

 

When Christ Spoke ‘of Many are called but Few Chosen’, He was not talking about earthly Prosperity or Equivalent in Verses below, but rather the context of the “few Chosen” is they that would have the “Wedding Garment” (so what’s the ‘Wedding Garment Definition’? Let’s see with “Bible Verses” next & not the deceptive opinions of men):

 

White Garment = Wedding Garment = Holiness + Good Works in Action (e.g. Charity Doctrine Lifestyle) = Mystery of “For MANY are CALLED, but FEW are CHOSEN.”

 

“… 11“But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who DID NOT HAVE on a WEDDING GARMENT. 12So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, [b]take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14“For MANY are CALLED, but FEW are CHOSEN.” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 22:11 – 14, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) #saferoutescripturallybook   (Pages 126 and 127)

 

  1. i) Please notice carefully that the LAODICEAN CHURCH did NOT HAVE “WHITE GARMENTS” even though they were FINANCIALLY PROPEROUS and had MANY CONVERTS and were HEALTH-WISE PROSPEROUS on EARTH and to “Correct” them Christ DID NOT Point to THEIR FAITH but “THEIR WORKS” which was Wrong (yes please notice the phrase “YOUR WORKS” carefully in Verses below):

 

“… 15“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because YOU ARE LUKEWARM, and neither [k]cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I AM RICH, HAVE BECOME WEALTHY, and HAVE NEED OF NOTHING’—and do not know that YOU ARE WRETCHED, MISERABLE, POOR, BLIND, AND NAKED— 18I counsel you to BUY FROM ME GOLD REFINED IN THE FIRE, that YOU MAY BE RICH; and WHITE GARMENTS that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:15 – 18, NKJV)

 

Note: I repeat, the ONLY SIN of the Laodicean Church was “Prosperity” (nothing else is Written as Christ points to other Church to have ‘sexually immoral or Doctrine of Nicolaitans or Balak etc.’). They had some type of “FAITH in Christ with PROSPERITY focus” BUT did NOT HAVE the CHARITY DOCTRINE as First Christianity quote below reveals this Context too likewise (example from Page 182 from the #AlmsgivingandAtonementMysteryBook ):

 

“… “Just as lukewarm water causes people who receive it to vomit,” he says, “hence I too, through a word of my mouth will vomit you like DETESTED FOOD INTO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, for you MINGLED THE THORNS OF RICHES with the seed of the divine word216 in your own poverty by spiritual ignorance, and the blindness of your intelligible217 eyes AND THE NAKEDNESS OF GOOD DEEDS.”218 Rev. 3:18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you will become rich, and that you MAY PUT ON WHITE GARMENTS, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see. “If you would be rich,” he says, “to acquire a burning résolve and a willing heart take refined gold from me, the Enricher, the instructive Word illumined by the fire of 9 1 0 trials, through which you will hâve the inviolable treasure in the heart and be clothed in the most BRILLIANT GARMENT [44] OF VIRTUES through which the NAKEDNESS ATTACHED TO YOU FROM SIN 990 WILL BE COVERED.” EYE SALVE (IS) ALSO LACK OF POSSESSIONS. …” – Blessed St. Andreas/Andrew, Bishop of Caesarea, Earliest* Greek Patristic commentary on the Apocalypse (c. 563 AD – c. 637 AD)

Source [ Point 43 – 44 , Pages 51 – 52, Chapter 9 ] :

https://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/2008_constantinou_andrew-translation.pdf

 

  1. ii) Why is this Important? Only those with “WHITE GARMENTS” have their names “Written” in the “BOOK of LIFE” to escape the “Lake of Fire”, Verses:

 

“… He who OVERCOMES shall be clothed in WHITE GARMENTS, and I will not blot out his name from the BOOK OF LIFE; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. …” (Revelation 3:5, NKJV)

 

iii) White Garments is NOT FAITH but GOOD WORKS as described in this ‘same Book of Revelation’:

 

“White Garment” = “Good Works in Action” (“Overcomers”, not holiness only) = “Righteous Acts of the Saints” (human Good Works letting God Work it through us, His Will), Verse:

 

“… 7Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8And to her it was granted to be ARRAYED IN FINE LINEN, CLEAN AND BRIGHT, for the FINE LINEN is the RIGHTEOUS ACTS OF THE SAINTS. 9Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he said to me, “These are the true sayings of God.” . …” (Revelation 19:7 – 9, NKJV)

 

Better to be Safe Scripturally and “Prepare”  for it likewise for which there is “no” condemnation (May God Help us to be Wise).

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Decide for yourselves.

 

I have decided to follow Scripture as it is Written way and with Actual Church History (first 1900 years) as the “Safe Route Scripturally”.

 

1) Bible because it is the Word of God (so must be Taught)

 

2) The Bible Speaks of “Cloud of Witnesses” (Hebrews 12:1 – 3) whose Faith we are to Imitate

 

  1. i) Imitate their Faith in New Testament “Traditions” is called IMITATING CHRIST (so we don’t need cultural imitation or anything else – the Bible already PRAISE this WAY 100% Approved)

 

“… 1IMITATE ME, just as I also IMITATE CHRIST. 2Now I PRAISE you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and KEEP the TRADITIONS just as I delivered them to you. …” (1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2, NKJV)

 

  1. ii) Imitate their Faith in other aspects

 

“… Brethren, join in following my example, and NOTE THOSE WHO ALSO WALK, as you have us for A PATTERN. …” (Philippians 3:17, NKJV0

 

So we take quotes from Church History to prove similar doctrines or “possibilities” on things which we are “not” sure 100%.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

The Spirit of God Will HELP to OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS

 

(any of it according to the Measure of Grace Given, From Matthew 5 to Matthew 7 to 1 Corinthians 11 to 14, 2 Peter 3:2 etc.)

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161543976682784

 

Please notice the words “Obey His Commands” in Verse in image which is what the HOLY SPIRIT of God HELPS us to OBEY, Verses:

 

“… 15“If YOU LOVE ME, [d]KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. 16And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]HELPER, that He may ABIDE WITH YOUR FOREVER— 17the SPIRIT of TRUTH, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:15 – 17, NKJV)

 

Comment: Please notice how Christ Describes the “Spirit of Truth” to be a “Helper” in the Context of HELPING US OBET HIS COMMANDMENTS. Gifts are an option not Command, example Verses:

 

“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY [of Agape/Love]. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)

 

That is why we don’t “RISKanyone’s FAITH to GO AGAINST NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS.

 

“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

Example Question

Where’s the revival now and how to harvest them. Never simply quote bible to condemn ministers and ministries established by God. You are not telling me what is right, I won’t be offended by you. But you are “Educating God” using His own words bible to condemn what God is doing.

 

Reply

That argument works both ways. Why not study the “Bible Verses” and Preach that only? Why try to “Educate God” with “Human Culture?”

 

Did you know that all the missionary work before the 20th century was done with ZERO WOMEN PASTORS and also ZERO CHARISMATIC GIFTS even WITHIN PROTESTANT CHRITSIANITY itself for 1900 years of Christian History.

 

They already evangelized and proved it as “Work of God”. Why twist it to do “new ways”? Even if you have new ways, why “not” acknowledge  and allow those wo wish to do it that approved way say of obeying New Testament Traditions in your church itself if you really respect ‘all work of God’? if you don’t allow it in your church, we don’t allow your ways either in our lives.

 

Peace to you

 

 

OSAS and NON-ELECT SALVATION Possibility with the Possible Scripture Shepherd of Hermas and Beyond

 

1) What is OSAS?

 

OSAS stands for “Once Saved, Always Saved” doctrinal stance where it was Preached like the great late evangelist Mr. Billy Graham. It basically means that if you have believed in Christ (be Saved), no matter what you sin after that, you will eventually be saved where they quote Bible Verses such as “… whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life …” (John 3:16) making the claim of Salvation based on “FAITH ALONE” (Sola Fide). The extremes of OSAS clearly points that the “WORKS of SIN” does not affect the Final Salvation at all despite one may be punished in this life (or in the afterlife via “Saved by Fire”?). Based on this, they encourage anyone to just believe (or try to believe) so that they could be hope for them.  However, other Christians oppose this position mainly based on the fact that Hebrews 10 or Matthew 22 (as just discussed in last chapter) points to the rejection of MANY and FEW SAVED based on THEIR WORKS. But as we have seen on Page 122 earlier, the Context for “Few Saved” can also refer to the First Resurrection number meaning some could be Saved during the Second Resurrection which can include ‘fallen Christians’ who could be “SAVED by FIRE” (1 Corinthians 3:14 – 15) as per First Christianity’s Chiliasm Champion  of Faith’s quote below which refers to this TIMELINE of between the FIRST AND SECOND RESURRECTION (1000 years Time Period, Revelation 20:5) where some can be “SAVED after this LAKE of FIRE” destroying THEIR WORKS OF SIN (possibly a type of non-Elect Salvation), to quote these:

 

  1. i) Saved by Fire

 

“… 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.  …” (1 Corinthians 3:14 – 15, NKJV)

 

  1. ii) The “Fire” in “Saved by Fire” referred to is the “Lake of Fire” Context

 

“… 13each ONE’S WORK will become clear; FOR THE DAY WILL DECLARE IT, BECAUSE IT WILL BE REVEALED BY FIRE; and THE FIRE WILL TEST EACH ONE’S WORK, of what sort it is. 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.” (1 Corinthians 3:13 – 15, NKJV)

Note: Either way, there is “loss” despite “being saved” if we end up “saved by fire” where this “Fire” refers to the “Lake of Fire” Context simply because it refers to the “FIRE which is to be REVEALED on THAT DAY (when He Returns or perhaps Judgment Day 1000 years later, no one knows which for sure) in Verses above for ‘this Salvation case’ (most likely non-Elect Salvation I think).

 

iii) First Christianity Quote for Salvation of “Saved by Fire” referring to the “Lake of Fire” Context

 

“… “OUR SAVIOUR has appointed TWO KINDS of RESURRECTION in the APOCALYPSE. ‘Blessed is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION,’ for such COME TO GRACE WITHOUT JUDGMENT. As FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT COME TO THE FIRST, but are reserved unto the SECOND RESURRECTION, THESE SHALL BE DISCIPLINED UNTIL THEIR APPOINTED TIMES, BETWEEN THE FIRST AND THE SECOND RESURRECTION.” …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD)

 

Source: https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ambrose    or

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrose#

 

  1. iv) Existence of OSAS Christians

 

“… 67. There are SOME, indeed, WHO BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT ABANDON the NAME OF CHRIST, and WHO ARE BAPTIZED in his laver in the Church, who are NOT CUT OFF FROM IT BY SCHISM or HERESY, WHO MAY THEN LIVE IN SINS HOWEVER GREAT, NOT WASHING THEM AWAY BY REPENTANCE, NOR REDEEMING THEM BY ALMS –and WHO OBTINATELY PERSEVERE IN THEM TO LIFE’S LAST DAY – EVEN THESE WILL STILL BE SAVED, “THOUGH AS BY FIRE.” [1 Corinthians 3:15] THEY BELIEVE THAT SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE PUNISHED BY FIRE, PROLONGED IN PROPORTION TO THEIR SINS, BUT STILL NOT ETERNAL. BUT THOSE WHO BELIEVE THUS, and are STILL CATHOLICS, ARE DECEIVED, as it seems to me, by a kind of merely human benevolence. For the divine Scripture, when consulted, answers differently. Moreover, I have written a book about this question, entitled Faith and Works,142 in which, with God’s help, I have shown as best I could that, according to Holy Scripture, the faith that saves is the faith that the apostle Paul adequately describes when he says, “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails anything, nor uncircumcision, but the faith which works through love.”143 But if faith works evil and not good, then without doubt, according to the apostle James “it is dead in itself.”144 He then goes on to say, “If a man says he has faith, yet has not works, can his faith be enough to save him? …” – Blessed St. Augustine of Hippo, Doctor of the Church, who influenced virtually all of subsequent Western philosophy and Catholic theology, as well as a significant amount of Protestant theology (c. 354 AD – c. 430 AD, Point 67, “Faith and Works”, Enchiridion).

Source: http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/augustine_enchiridion_02_trans.htm

 

Comments:

 

  1. OSAS Type of Doctrine

 

“… 67. There are SOME, indeed, WHO BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT ABANDON the NAME OF CHRIST, and WHO ARE BAPTIZED in his laver in the Church, who are NOT CUT OFF FROM IT BY SCHISM or HERESY, WHO MAY THEN LIVE IN SINS HOWEVER GREAT, NOT WASHING THEM AWAY BY REPENTANCE, NOR REDEEMING THEM BY ALMS –and WHO OBTINATELY PERSEVERE IN THEM TO LIFE’S LAST DAY – EVEN THESE WILL STILL BE SAVED, “THOUGH AS BY FIRE.” [1 Corinthians 3:15] THEY BELIEVE THAT SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE PUNISHED BY FIRE, PROLONGED IN PROPORTION TO THEIR SINS, BUT STILL NOT ETERNAL. …”

 

  1. Please notice carefully that St. Augustine believed in the CHARITY DOCTRINE as a MUST FOR REPENTANCE and ALSO FOR JUDGMENT of SINS to be REMOVED, his quote here (which many protestants deny but CHRIST TAUGHT it clearly in LUKE 11:39 – 45 in this Context too):

 

“… WHO MAY THEN LIVE IN SINS HOWEVER GREAT, NOT WASHING THEM AWAY BY REPENTANCE, NOR REDEEMING THEM BY ALMS –and WHO OBTINATELY PERSEVERE IN THEM TO LIFE’S LAST DAY …”

Please notice the Relative Measure of ability to do REPENTANCE and ALMS (= Charity Doctrine) till the ‘last day’ of one’s earthly life  in St. Augustine’s phrase above proving he believed in it as he contrasts the OSAS type of Christians to DENY THESE.

 

 

 

iii. Some Type of Salvation (possibly non-Elect) is believed by such OSAS Christians even in the Context of LAKE of FIRE quoting 1 Corinthians 3:15’s Context likewise here

“… – EVEN THESE WILL STILL BE SAVED, “THOUGH AS BY FIRE.” [1 Corinthians 3:15] THEY BELIEVE THAT SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE PUNISHED BY FIRE, PROLONGED IN PROPORTION TO THEIR SINS, BUT STILL NOT ETERNAL. …”

 

  1. Please notice carefully that even St. Augustine (as strict as he is portrayed) does NOT call these Christians (Catholic means ‘Universal Christians’) as believing in HERESY NOR SCHISM but are STILL SAVED regardless proving clearly that even if errors in Doctrine are made about these areas NO ONE IS A HERETIC

 

“… BUT THOSE WHO BELIEVE THUS, and are STILL CATHOLICS, ARE DECEIVED, as it seems to me, by a kind of merely human benevolence. …”

  1. v) Existence of UNIVERSALIST Christians in First Christianity

 

“… “There are very many in our day, who though not denying the Holy Scriptures, do not believe in endless torments. …” — St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430 A.D.)

Source: https://www.mercyuponall.org/tag/church-fathers/

 

or

“… Yet even in his wrath–his wrath resting on them–he does not “shut up his mercy.” This is not to put an end to their eternal afflictions, but rather to apply or interpose some little respite in their torments. … Now, if this wrath were all there is in man’s damnation, and even if it were present only in the slightest degree conceivable–still, to be lost out of the Kingdom of God, to be an exile from the City of God, to be estranged from the life of God, to suffer loss of the great abundance of God’s blessings which he has hidden for those who fear him and prepared for those who hope in him240 –this would be a punishment so great that, if it be eternal, no torments that we know could be compared to it, no matter how many ages they continued. …” – Blessed St. Augustine of Hippo, Doctor of the Church, who influenced virtually all of subsequent Western philosophy and Catholic theology, as well as a significant amount of Protestant theology (c. 354 AD – c. 430 AD, Points 112 – 113, CHAPTER XXIX. “The Last Things”, Enchiridion).

Source: http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/augustine_enchiridion_02_trans.htm

Note: St. Augustine of Hippo himself affirms in his own words here that we may contemplate such a possibility described above as “not Denying Holy Scripture” (and hence we are not heretics) even though he believed in Eternal Hell for the Wicked.

 

Also the “Opinion of St. Augustine” is very important indeed simply because even Blessed John Calvin (Founder of the Reformed Church Protestants) himself learnt his theology from St. Augustine’s Writings. Example quote:

 

“…  Augustine is so wholly within me, that if I wished to write a confession of my faith, I could do so with all fullness and satisfaction to myself out of his writings  …” – Blessed John Calvin, Protestant Reformer Theologian (Creator of the Five Point Calvinism or Tulips Doctrine for Protestanism)

Source: Calvin, John. A Treatise on the Eternal Predestination of God. in Calvin, John (1987). Calvin’s Calvinism. Translated by Henry Cole. Grandville, MI: Reformed Free Publishing Association. p. 38

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustinian_Calvinism

 

  1. vi) St. Ambrose’s Quotes detailing the Lake of Fire understanding as Salvation is Possible from there? You decide, example discussion in support of it is as follows:

 

St. Ambrose defined Luke 12:49 to refer to the Final Lake of Fire/Gehenna Judgment as the Final Baptism of Fire on that Day toward the Wicked or Fallen Believers too where the sin or the work of the flesh:

 

“… I came to set the earth on fire, and what is my will, if not that finally it lights up? [Luke 12:49] I must be baptized with a baptism, and what is my torment as long as it is not accomplished! ” Higher up, He has kept us vigilant, waiting at all times for the coming of the Lord Savior, lest by slackening, by negligence, by differing from day to day his work, such, preceded by the day of the future judgment or by his own death, lose the reward of his management. It was addressed to all, in the form of a general precept; but the theme of the following comparison seems to be proposed to the bishops, that is to say, to the bishops, to let them know that they will have to undergo a severe punishment later, if, occupied with the pleasures of the century, they neglected to govern the house of the Lord and the people entrusted to them. But as the profit is thin, and the merit is low, when it is the fear of the punishment which prevents from going astray, since the charity and the love have a superior dignity, the Lord sharpens our zeal to deserve its favor and we are inflamed with the desire to acquire God, saying, “I have come to set fire to the earth,” not certainly the fire that consumes the goods, but the one that produces the good will, which makes the vases of and from the house of the Lord, consuming the hay and the straw (I Cor. iii. 12ff., 1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15), devouring all the gangue of the age, amassed by worldly pleasure, the work of the flesh that is to perish;… They have thus taught with evidentness what is the action of this fire, which enlightens the intimate of the heart. For this reason perhaps the Lord will come into the fire (see Is., LXVI, 15; 16): to consume all the vices at the moment of the resurrection, to fill by his presence the desires of each one, and to project the light on merits and mysteries….” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Commentary on Luke XII, Verses Luke 12:49 – 50)

Source:

 

https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home/luke-commentary/ambrose-on-luke-12

 

 

Proof Phrase that this Refers to the Final Lake of Fire Judgment toward those Christians who are treated as Unbelievers (Luke 12:46) from the above by St. Ambrose himself: “… I came to set the earth on fire … preceded by the day of the future judgment or by his own death, lose the reward of his management. It was addressed to all… seems to be proposed to the bishops, that is to say, to the bishops, to let them know that they will have to undergo a severe punishment later, if, occupied with the pleasures of the century, they neglected to govern the house of the Lord and the people entrusted to them … I have come to set fire to the earth,” not certainly the fire that consumes the goods, but the one that produces the good will, which makes the vases of and from the house of the Lord, consuming the hay and the straw (I Cor. iii. 12ff., 1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15), devouring all the gangue of the age, amassed by worldly pleasure, the work of the flesh that is to perish;…”.

 

 

Indeed, you can clearly see that St. Ambrose reveals that some Christian leaders or bishops are punished as unbelievers (Luke 12:46) in the Lake of Fire Context (hence the current purgatory is not enough) during the future Day of Judgment in a fire which produces ‘good will’ as he even quotes 1 Corinthians 3:12 implying that 1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15 may be applied to mean Salvation from the Lake of Fire, yes “even so through fire” (1 Corinthians 3:15) toward such fallen-believers who are deemed equal to unbelievers who have ‘equal sentences’ (Luke 12:46) proving our Context Claim Right Again. Can you see it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regardless, the “wicked” are said to be in the lake of Fire only till the last penny (not forever but an Aeonian Sentence which is proportioned according to their sin) as St. Ambrose’s commentary on Verses 58 – 59 prior clearly prove as follows:

 

“… It will be the same at the end of time: the angels will come to separate the wicked from the righteous, and throw them into the blazing furnace … or the punishment diminished according to the appreciation of the wrong … so, here, to be purified, because the sin of each is purified by the kind of transaction described above. … On the other hand, the guilty person is tortured and tortured as long as he has not served the sentence of the error committed…” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (Commentary on Luke 12:58 – 59, highlighted)

Christ Himself is the “Fire” through which they are Saved (1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15) as St. Ambrose Revealed above:

 

“… For this reason perhaps the Lord will come into the fire (see Is., LXVI, 15; 16): to consume all the vices at the moment of the resurrection, to fill by his presence the desires of each one, and to project the light on merits and mysteries….” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (Commentary on Luke 12:49, highlighted)

 

Strangely, the Commentary for Luke 12:46 – 48 is missing in the link above. Did St. Ambrose not write it or was it lost in history?

 

Two Ways Sin is Diminished in the ‘Prison’ of the Lake of Fire

 

Bible Verses:

 

 

“… For while you are going with your opponent to appear before the magistrate, on your way there make an effort to settle with him, so that he may not drag you before the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. “I say to you, you will not get out of there until you have paid the very last cent. …” – Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:58 – 59, NASB)

 

 

 

 

 

 

  1. a) 1st & 2nd Way Combined (the Last Baptism of Fire which applies to All Human Being either in this life or next – Mark 9:49, Joel 2:28, Acts 2:17):

 

“…Likewise here: either the wrong is redeemed at the price of charity, or the punishment diminished according to the appreciation of the wrong. Now it is the custom, as we remember, to give a bath to the baths: by presenting it, everyone obtains the faculty of bathing there; so, here, to be purified, because the sin of each is purified by the kind of transaction described above. On the other hand, the guilty person is tortured and tortured as long as he has not served the sentence of the error committed…” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Commentary on Luke XII, Verses Luke 12:58 – 59, highlighted)

 

 

  1. b) 1st Way highlighted:

 

“…Likewise here: either the wrong is redeemed at the price of charity, … so, here, to be purified, because the sin of each is purified by the kind of transaction described above. …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Commentary on Luke XII, Verses Luke 12:58 – 59, highlighted)

 

 

  1. c) 2nd Way highlighted:

 

“…Likewise here: either … or the punishment diminished according to the appreciation of the wrong. … so, here, to be purified, because the sin of each is purified by the kind of transaction described above… the guilty person is tortured and tortured as long as he has not served the sentence of the error committed…” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Commentary on Luke XII, Verses Luke 12:58 – 59, highlighted)

 

 

I repeat: Though I argue as though St. Ambrose must have believed like this, I am “not” Saying that this must be it but as a “possibility” only these days since no one can say for sure. So for Truth’s sake, I present the evidence for such claims accordingly from Orthodox First Christianity and not by quoting heretics.

 

 

 

vii) St. Ambrose of Milan himself could have been an Universalist

 

St. Augustine’s Teacher and Converter, St. Ambrose of Milan himself may have believed in Universalism too, Example Quotes:

 

 

“… 167. How, then, will they be brought into subjection? In the way that the Lord Himself has said. “Take My yoke upon you.” It is not the fierce that bear the yoke, but the humble and the gentle. This clearly is NON BASE SUBJECTION for MEN, but a GLORIOUS ONE: “that in the NAME of JESUS EVERY KNEE should bow, of things in heaven and things beneath; and that EVERY  TONGUE should CONFESS that JESUS IS LORD in the Glory of God the Father.” But for this reason all things were not made subject before, for they had not yet received the wisdom of God, not yet did they wear the easy yoke of the Word on the neck as it were of their mind. “But as many as received Him,” as it is written, “to them gave He power to become the sons of God.” 168. Will any one say that Christ is now made subject, because MANY have BELIEVED? Certainly NOT. For Christ’s subjection lies NOT in a FEW but in ALL. For just as I do not seem to be brought into subjection, if the flesh in me as yet lusts against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh, although I am in part subdued; so because the WHOLE CHURCH is the one body of Christ, we DIVIDE CHRIST as long as the HUMAN RACE DISAGREES. Therefore Christ is not yet made subject, for His members are not yet brought into subjection. But when we have become, not many members, but one spirit, then He also will become subject, in order that through His subjection   “God may be ALL and IN ALL.”  …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo  (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Ambrose: Selected Works and Letters, Book V Prologue, Points 167 – 168,  Page 720)

 

Source:

 

https://archive.org/stream/St.AmbroseSelectedWorksAndLetters/st_ambrose_selected_works_and_letters_djvu.txt

 

 

 

 

 

“… Let us then shortly sum up our CONCLUSION on the whole matter. A unity of power puts aside all idea of a degrading subjection. His giving up of power, and His victory as conqueror won over death, have not lessened His power. Obedience works out subjection. Christ has taken obedience upon Himself, obedience even to taking on Him our flesh, the cross even to gaining our salvation. Thus where the work lies, there too is the Author of the work. When therefore, all things have become subject to Christ, through Christ’s obedience, so that ALL bend their knees in His name, then He Himself will be ALL in ALL. For NOW, since ALL do NOT BELIEVE, ALL do NOT seem to be in SUBJECTION. But WHEN ALL have BELIEVED and DONE the will of God, then Christ will be ALL and in ALL. And when Christ is all and in all, then will God be all and in all; for the Father abides ever in the Son. How, then, is He shown to be weak, Who redeemed the weak? …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo  (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Selected Works and Letters, Page 726, Chapter 15, Point 182)

 

Source:

 

https://archive.org/stream/St.AmbroseSelectedWorksAndLetters/st_ambrose_selected_works_and_letters_djvu.txt

 

 

“… This is that peace above all peace which shall be granted AFTER the THIRD SHAKING of the heaven, the sea, the earth and the dry land, when He shall DESTROY ALL PRINCIPALITIES and POWERS [Ephesians 6:12, Colossians 2:15, Isaiah 24:21]. For HEAVEN and EARTH shall PASS AWAY [Revelation 21:1],306 and ALL  the FASHION of this WORLD [1 Corinthians 7:31, 1 John 2:17]; … And thus there will be peace over all, the passions of the body offering no resistance, and the UNBELIEVING mind NO OBSTACLE [Romans 3:3 – 4], that CHRIST may be ALL in ALL [1 Corinthians 15:24 – 28], offering in SUBJECTION to the Father the HEARTS of ALL MEN [1 Timothy 2:4, 1 Timothy 4:10] …”  – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo  (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, LETTER XXX, AMBROSE TO IRENAEUS, GREETING, Point 14)

 

Source:

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/ambrose_letters_03_letters21_30.htm

 

 

“… Paul makes a prayer for himself when he says: ‘That God may open the ‘door of his Word for me to announce the MYSTERY of CHRIST.‘ 15 Appropriate for the occasion was the substance of his prayer. In preaching the Gospel he was clearly chosen to be the one who opened the door of the Word, from which issued the SALVATION of the GENTILES and LIFE itself for ALL PEOPLE. … [Salvation for Which People? Context: All Men = the Whole Human Race as St. Ambrose explains just three points later as follows] … You are instructed above all to pray for the people, that is, for ALL MEN [1 Timothy 2:1], 28 for all members of your family, which is a conspicuous sign of mutual love. If you make a petition for yourself, then you pray merely for your own satisfaction. If everyone were thus to make a petition just for himself, he would become, not a petitioner, but an intercessor for favors. We conclude, therefore, that a petition for oneself is restricted to the person petitioning, whereas a PETITION for ALL MEN INCLUDES ONESELF, as you are a part of that number. Hence, great is the recompense wherein ALL MEN are accorded the benefits acquired by the prayers of each individual of the group. In this there is no question of presumption. Rather, it is much more the reflection of a humble heart, bestowing benefits more abundantly. …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo  (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Ambrose: fathers of the church, Gain and Abel, Points 36, 39, Chapter 9 Page 392, 395)

 

Source:

https://archive.org/stream/fathersofthechur027571mbp/fathersofthechur027571mbp_djvu.txt

 

Again, no one can say for certain if St. Ambrose of Milan was a Universalist or not but it certainly “possible” in light of all these quotes from his writings. As I said, we consider these as a “possibility” since no one knows for sure.

 

 

Comment: So John 3:16 can include such ones too, right? If not, then this Verse Speaks of a possible “non-Elect Salvation” and Let God Decide one day which is the case. Now even if the Context of Verses above Speaks of a “Fallen Christian” (Luke 12:46 – 48), his portion (final fate) is said to be EQUAL to UNBELIEVERS (Luke 12:46) meaning that these Verses could likewise all point to the NON-ELECT SALVATION of SAVED BY FIRE (1 Corinthians 3:15) making OSAS and possibly Christ Centered Universalism true likewise for “RANSOM for ALL” (e.g. 1 Timothy 2:6) may point really to “… ALL MEN to be SAVED …” eventually (1 Timothy 2:4) and hence PRAYERS and THANKSGIVINGs are made for ALL MEN in light of this Hope (1 Timothy 2:1) though some “BY [Lake of Fire] FIRE” only if these are understood in this way which is “possible” too as demonstrated via St. Ambrose of Milan’s quotes itself here.

“… 1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for ALL MEN;4Who will have ALL MEN to be SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. … 6Who gave himself a RANSOM for ALL, to be testified in DUE TIME[s]. 7Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity. …” (1 Timothy 2:1, 4, 6 – 7, KJV)

 

2) St. Athanasius and RANSOM for ALL Meaning

St. Athanasius seems to understand that Christ’s “Ransom for ALL” includes even to the JEWS who DID NOT BELIEVE in HIM on earth too in the context of “SALVATION for ALL” eventually (if this is what he meant below, difficult, right?)

 

“… He it is that was crucified before the sun and all creation as witnesses, and before those who put Him to death: and by His death has SALVATION  come to ALL, and ALL CREATION  been RANSOMED. He is the Life of all, and He it is that as a sheep yielded His body to death as a substitute, for the SALVATION  of ALL, even though the Jews believe it not…” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, Point 7, S:37. PSALM XXII. 16, &C. MAJESTY OF HIS BIRTH AND DEATH. CONFUSION OF ORACLES AND DEMONS IN EGYPT)

 

Source: https://www.ecatholic2000.com/fathers/untitled-820.shtml#_Toc390306303

 

  1. ii) St. Athanasius and NON-ELECT Salvation POSSIBILITY

 

This Context is strong because we know that St. Athanasius most likely believed in some type of non-Elect Salvation FROM HADES too based on his quote below (pointing to BELIEVING after SEEING POSSIBILITY as discussed in earlier Books)

 

“… And if a man has gone down even to HADES, and stands awestruck before the heroes who have descended thither, regarding them as gods, still he may see the fact of Christ’s resurrection and His victory over death, and reason from it that, of all these, He alone is very Lord and God. For the Lord touched all parts of creation, and freed and undeceived them all from every deceit. As St. Paul says, “Having put off from Himself the principalities and the powers, He triumphed on the cross,”(Col. 2. 15) so that no one could possibly be any longer deceived, but everywhere might find the very Word of God. For thus man, enclosed on every side by the works of creation and everywhere-in heaven, in HADES, in men and on the earth, beholding the unfolded Godhead of the Word, is no longer deceived concerning God, but worships Christ alone, and through Him rightly knows the Father. On these grounds, then, of reason and of principle, we will fairly silence the Gentiles in their turn. But if they think these arguments insufficient to confute them, we will go on in the next chapter to prove our point from facts. … ” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, ‘On the Incarnation’, , Ibid, Chapter 7/ Section 45)

 

Translation Source:

https://www.worldinvisible.com/library/athanasius/incarnation/incarnation.7.htm

 

iii) St. Athanasius’ Approval of the Shepherd of Hermas for ‘Greater Accuracy’

 

Now, since St. Athanasius also ACCEPTED the SHEPHERD of HERMAS WRITING QUOTED EARLIER in the CONTEXT of NON-ELECT SALVATION as TRUTH (even if not at the Level of Canonical Scripture) as he says to “GREATER ACCURACY in regards to the DOCTRINE of PIETY” (his own words testify as follows):

 

“… These are the springs of salvation, in order that he who is thirsty may fully refresh himself with the words contained in them. In them alone is the doctrine of piety proclaimed. Let no one add anything to them or take anything away from them… But for the sake of greater accuracy I add, being constrained to write, that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. And although, beloved, the former are in the canon and the latter serve as reading matter, yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics, who write them down when it pleases them and generously assign to them an early date of composition in order that they may be able to draw upon them as supposedly ancient writings and have in them occasion to deceive the guileless. …” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, The 39th Festal Letter of Athanasius (367 CE))  Source: http://www.ntcanon.org/Athanasius.shtml

 

Note: Quoting the later councils and all that doesn’t matter so much because they all quote St. Athanasius for the 27 Book New Testament as even the Protestants do. I know of no earlier leader of the church to mention such number of books but may list more too or less too or not mention some too. I have discussed these same quotes and more on Page 179 onward in this Book.

A keen eye would notice that for St. Athanasius at that time even, the “Book of Esther” was “outside of the Bible” (just like the Shepherd of Hermas or others mentioned in his quote above) but today is one of the 66 books meaning these other books also could be likewise in his quote above: “…that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd.  …”

 

*Shepherd = Shepherd of Hermas (in quote above)

 

St. Athanasius clearly points that each of these listed books are “accepted” while he states as “Apocrypha”  in his usage here “NOT” referring to these books but ‘other fake books made by heretics’ (which are “not” listed here meaning what is “not” listed could be potentially from heretical sources). That quote from above:

 

“…And although, beloved, the former are in the canon and the latter serve as reading matter, yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics, who write them down when it pleases them and generously assign to them an early date of composition in order that they may be able to draw upon them as supposedly ancient writings and have in them occasion to deceive the guileless. …” …”

 

Comments, please consider these phrases carefully:

 

1) “… the former are in the canon  …” = 27 New Testament Books (Accepted)

 

2) “… and the latter serve as reading matter, …” = “… .that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd [of Hermas]. …” (Accepted)

 

3) “… yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics …” = Books which are “not” listed above (Rejected).

 

4) Shepherd of Hermas and NON ELECT SALVATION POSSIBILITY

 

  1. i) Firstly, each is given a Relative Measure of Faith according to GRACE GIVEN

 

“… For I say, through the GRACE GIVEN to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as GOD HAS DEALT TO EACH ONE A MEASURE OF FAITH. …” (Romans 12:3, NKJV)

Comment: The phrase “… as GOD HAS DEALT TO EACH ONE A MEASURE OF FAITH. …” in the above itself proves that ‘Christianity will have differences In Doctrine where we could get some parts right others wrong or vice versa’ but yet CAN BE SAVED (room for error is there). If there is “no” rooms for Doctrinal Errors, then there wouldn’t be a “measure” of “faith” but “equal” measure of “faith” to all which is NOT what’s Written here. So, regarding ‘who is right doctrinally, let God Decide One Day and Reward accordingly’.

 

We use the “Shepherd of Hermas” Writing because in the last section prior, we already showed that St. Athanasius the Great himself proves it as “True” in the Context of “GREATER ACCURACY” in ‘his own words’. So this could be a Doctrinal “Possibility” since we are not sure 100%. Please bear in mind that this Shepherd of Hermas was considered Scripture by many Champions of Faith in early Christianity even as discussed say in Pages 61 to 63 in the free #EternalhellAnnihilationandUniversalismBook while in Pages 64 to 68 the NON-ELECT SALVATION POSSIBILITY is DICUSSED to INCLUDE EVEN THE UNBAPTIZED Persons (that’s why this must be a NON-ELECT SALVATION if True) as it is PLACED OUTSIDE the TOWER (which is the CHURCH). Example quotes:

 

  1. a) Shepherd of Hermas was considered Scripture by these First Christianity Greats of Faith

 

Shepherd of Hermas which was considered Scripture-Level in First Christianity by even St. Irenaeous of Lyons (Hearer/Disciple of St. Polycarp an apostolic father being the direct disciple of Apostle St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation) , Tertullian (father of Latin Christianity), Pope Callixtus I (Head of the entire Roman Catholic Church in his time in First Christianity), St. Clement of Alexandria (head of the Cathecatical School of Alexandria) and even the First Bibles of Christianity (the Muratorian or Roman Canon in the West & the Codex Claromontanus Canon in the East) while Eusebius (father of Church History) and St. Athanasius the Great (father of orthodoxy & Champion of Trinity) approved of its use for catechumens

Please be careful of some Protestant attitude to simply claim some very rough language against the ‘Shepherd of Hermas’ Book because if on Judgment Day it turns out to be “Scripture”, condemning any Scripture could be liable to the “Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” which has “no” forgiveness either in this age nor in the age to come:

“… Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 12:32, NKJV)

 

  1. b) Shepherd of Hermas non-Elect Salvation Quotes

 

“… “Now the other stones which you saw cast far away from the tower, and falling upon the public road and rolling from it into pathless places, are those who have indeed believed, but through doubt have abandoned the true road. Thinking, then, that they could find a better, they wander and become wretched, and enter upon pathless places. But those which fell into the fire and were burned? are those who have departed for ever from the living God; nor does the thought of repentance ever come into their hearts, on account of their devotion to their lusts and to the crimes which they committed. Do you wish to know who are the others which fell near the waters, but could not be rolled into them? THESE ARE THEY WHO HAVE HEARD THE WORD, and WISH TO BE BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord; but when the chastity demanded by the truth comes into their recollection, they draw back, and AGAIN WALK AFTER THEIR OWN WICKED DESIRES.” She FINISHED her EXPOSITION of the TOWER. But I, shameless as I yet was, asked her, “IS REPENTANCE POSSIBLE FOR ALL THOSE STONES WHICH HAVE BEEN CAST AWAY and DID NOT FIT INTO THE BUILDING of the TOWER, AND WILL THEY YET HAVE A PLACE IN THIS TOWER?” “REPENTANCE,” said she, “IS YET POSSIBLE, BUT IN THIS TOWER [of Repentance*] THEY CANNOT FIND A SUITABLE PLACE. But in another and MUCH INFERIOR PLACE THEY WILL BE LAID, and that, too, ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TORTURED AND COMPLETED THE DAYS OF THEIR SINS. And on this account will they be transferred, because they have PARTAKEN of the RIGHTEOUS WORD. And then only will they be removed from their punishments when the THOUGHT of REPENTING of the evil deeds which they have done has come into their hearts. But if it does not come into their hearts, they will not be saved, on account of the hardness of their heart.” …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Chapter VII, Third Vision, Translated by another Well Known Scholar Mr. Roberts-Donaldson)

 

Source:  http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

The part in quote above which proves non-Elect salvation Outside the “Tower = Church” here: “… “REPENTANCE,” said she, “IS YET POSSIBLE, BUT IN THIS TOWER THEY CANNOT FIND A SUITABLE PLACE. But in another and MUCH INFERIOR PLACE THEY WILL BE LAID, and that, too, ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TORTURED AND COMPLETED THE DAYS OF THEIR SINS.  …”.

 

  1. c) How do we know that the Context of “Tower” here Parabolically refers to the “Tower of Repentance”? It’s Described earlier as follows ‘Tower [of Repentance]’ = ‘the Church’ = ‘the Elect Salvation’ so the Salvation described earlier must be a ‘Salvation OUTSIDE the TOWER (Church) in ANOTHER PLACE MUCH MORE INFERIOR, hence NON-ELECT SALVATION’ if these are read ‘as it is Written’ here and ‘Compared’, to quote:

 

“…  “Many indeed shall hear, and hearing, some shall be glad, and some shall weep. But even these, if they hear and repent, shall also rejoice. Hear, then, the PARABLES of the TOWER; for I will reveal all to you, and give me no more trouble in regard to revelation: for these revelations have an end, for they have been completed. But you will not cease praying for revelations, for you are shameless. The TOWER which you see building is myself, THE CHURCH, who have appeared to you now and on the former occasion. Ask, then, whatever you like in regard to the tower, and I will reveal it to you, that you may rejoice with the saints.”  …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Chapter III, Third Vision, Translated by another Well Known Scholar Mr. Roberts-Donaldson)

Source:  http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

 

  1. ii) Born Again Bible Verses

 

“… 3Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.” …” (John 3:3 – 6, NKJV)

 

iii) Shepherd of Hermas Born Again Quotes

 

“… 13[90]:5 “Listen,” saith he. “The name of the Son of God is great and incomprehensible, and sustaineth the whole world. If then all creation is sustained by the Son [of God], what thinkest thou of those that are called by Him, and bear the name of the Son of God, and walk according to His commandments? 13[90]:6 Seest thou then what manner of men He sustaineth? Even those that bear His name with their whole heart. He Himself then is become their foundation, and He sustaineth them gladly, because they are not ashamed to bear His name.” 15[92]:1 “Declare to me, Sir,” say I, “the names of the virgins, and of the women that are clothed in the black garments.” “Hear,” saith he, “the names of the more powerful virgins, those that are stationed at the corners. 15[92]:2 The first is Faith, and the second, Continence, and the third, Power, and the fourth, Long-suffering. But the others stationed between them have these names–Simplicity, Guilelessness, Purity, Cheerfulness, Truth, Understanding, Concord, Love. He that beareth these names and the name of the Son of God shall be able to enter into the kingdom of God. 15[92]:3 Hear,” saith he, “likewise the names of the women that wear the black garments. Of these also four are more powerful than the rest; the first is Unbelief; the second, Intemperance; the third, Disobedience; the fourth, Deceit; and their followers are called, Sadness, Wickedness, Wantonness, Irascibility, Falsehood, Folly, Slander, Hatred. The servant of God that beareth these names shall see the kingdom of God, but shall not enter into it.” …” – The Shepherd of Hermas (Parable 9, Chapter 13 to 15, Mr. Lightfoot’s Translation)

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd-lightfoot.html

 

 

Or

 

“CHAPTER XIV … Listen,” he said: “the name of the Son of God is great, and cannot be contained, and supports the whole world. If, then, the whole creation is supported by the Son of God, what think ye of those who are called by Him, and bear the name of the Son of God, and walk in His commandments? do you see what kind of persons He supports? Those who bear His name with their whole heart. He Himself, accordingly, became a foundation to them, and supports them with joy, because they are not ashamed to bear His name.”  CHAPTER XV.  “Explain to me, sir,” I said, “the names of these virgins, and of those women who were clothed in black raiment.” “Hear,” he said, “the names of the stronger virgins who stood at the comers. The first is Faith, the second Continence, the third Power, the fourth Patience. And the others standing in the midst of these have the following names: Simplicity, Innocence, Purity, Cheerfulness, Truth, Understanding, Harmony, Love. He who bears these names and that of the Son of God will be able to enter into the kingdom of God. Hear, also,” he continued, “the names of the women who had the black garments; and of these four are stronger than the rest. The first is Unbelief, the second: Incontinence, the third Disobedience, the fourth Deceit. And their followers are called Sorrow, Wickedness, Wantonness, Anger, Falsehood, Folly, Backbiting, Hatred. The servant of God who bears these names shall see, indeed, the kingdom of God, but shall not enter into it.” “And the stones, sir,” I said, “which were taken out of the pit and fitted into the building: what are they?” “The first,” he said, “the ten, viz, that were placed as a foundation, are the first generation, and the twenty-five the second generation, of righteous men; and the thirty-five are the prophets of God and His ministers; and the forty are the apostles and teachers of the preaching of the Son of God.” “Why, then, sir,” I asked, “did the virgins carry these stones also through the gate, and give them for the building of the tower?” “Because,” he answered, “these were the first who bore these spirits, and they never departed from each other, neither the spirits from the men nor the men from the spirits, but the spirits remained with them until their falling asleep. And unless they had had these spirits with them, they would not have been of use for the building of this tower.” …” – The Shepherd of Hermas (Parable 9, Chapter 13 to 15, Mr. Donaldson’s Translation)

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

  1. iv) SEE His Kingdom – POSSIBLE MEANING

 

 

 

“… Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is BORN AGAIN he cannot SEE the kingdom of God. …” (John 3:3, NASB)

 

“… 15[92]:3 Hear,” saith he, “likewise the names of the women that wear the black garments. Of these also four are more powerful than the rest; the first is Unbelief; the second, Intemperance; the third, Disobedience; the fourth, Deceit; and their followers are called, Sadness, Wickedness, Wantonness, Irascibility, Falsehood, Folly, Slander, Hatred. The servant of God that beareth these names shall SEE the kingdom of God, …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Parable 9, 15[92]:3, Mr. Lightfoot’s Translation)

 

 

So, SEEing His Kingdom is ONLY for those being BORN AGAIN (John 3:3). The Shepherd of Hermas implies that the WICKED [FALLEN CHRISTIAN or ‘Servants of God’ who WORE THESE BLACK GARMENTS of sin] will SEE His Kingdom and hence MUST be BORN AGAIN too and be “Saved” as per the NON-ELECT Salvation OUTSIDE the TOWER most likely (as per quote i) earlier) if “these Verses are compared as it is Written”.

 

Notice that the Shepherd of Hermas clearly mentions that these can SEE the KINGDOM (being BORN AGAIN) but CANNOT ENTER IT implying a SALVATION OUTSIDE the TOWER (Kingdom of God) even if SAVED.

 

This is Possible based on Verses below where being BORN AGAIN (Romans 8:20 – 21) where this aspect of the Sons of God, (His Elect – Romans 8:19) is SHARED by ALL CREATION eventually (Romans 8:22):

 

 

“… 19For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of [f]corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. …” (Romans 8:19 – 22, NKJV)

 

All Creation (Romans 8:22) —> will be BORN AGAIN (as the Greek Word in Romans 8:22 refers to ‘Birth Pangs’ Implying this, and has the Word ALL in front of ‘Creation’) —> in the Aspect of ‘liberty from Vanity or Decay, the corruption of sin’ causing ‘sin to cease to exist eventually’ as it is mentioned first in Immediate Consecutive Verses (Romans 8:20 – 21) —> where we, the ‘believers in faith’ (of ‘church’) are ‘more special’ inheriting more than just that (as the Verse earlier in Romans 8:19 describes the ‘rest of creation’ awaiting this).

 

In comparison, those who enter the Kingdom of God (Christians) must be BORN BOTH OF WATER and SPIRIT (Keep Repentance and His Commands).

 

  1. V) This NON-ELECT Salvation OUTSIDE the TOWER includes even the UNBAPTIZED who SINNED LIKEWISE and so in light of the SAME PORTION with UNBELIEVERS for FALLEN CHRISTIANS, this NON-ELECT Salvation TYPE may be POSSIBLE for such too:

 

“… THESE ARE THEY WHO HAVE HEARD THE WORD, and WISH TO BE BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord; but when the chastity demanded by the truth comes into their recollection, they draw back, and AGAIN WALK AFTER THEIR OWN WICKED DESIRES.” She FINISHED her EXPOSITION of the TOWER. But I, shameless as I yet was, asked her, “IS REPENTANCE POSSIBLE FOR ALL THOSE STONES WHICH HAVE BEEN CAST AWAY and DID NOT FIT INTO THE BUILDING of the TOWER, AND WILL THEY YET HAVE A PLACE IN THIS TOWER?” “REPENTANCE,” said she, “IS YET POSSIBLE, BUT IN THIS TOWER  THEY CANNOT FIND A SUITABLE PLACE. But in another and MUCH INFERIOR PLACE THEY WILL BE LAID, and that, too, ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TORTURED AND COMPLETED THE DAYS OF THEIR SINS. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Chapter VII, Third Vision, Translated by another Well Known Scholar Mr. Roberts-Donaldson)

 

Source:  http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

“… 45But IF THAT SERVANT SAYS in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, 46the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and WILL CUT HIM IN TWO AND APPOINT HIM HIS PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS. 47And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, FROM HIM MUCH WILL BE REQUIRED; and TO WHOM MUCH HAS BEEN COMMITTED, OF HIM THEY WILL ASK THE MORE.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:45 – 48, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

It is certainly “Possible” for such Worst Case Scenarios even and so Let God Decide One Day and I just present it as a “Possibility” only for this “Non-Elect Salvation” for both the sinning Fallen Christian and sinning unbelievers’ same portion of Judgment likewise and whatever God Decides One Day, we accept it.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Following Christ – Family Context – Did Christ Give any Special Preference to Virgin Mary (His mother) even?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161559046902784

 

Verses:

 

“… 27And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28But He said, “MORE THAN THAT, BLESSED are those who HEAR THE WORD OF GOD AND KEEP [Obey] IT!” …” (Luke 11:27 – 28, NKJV)

 

“… 46While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, HIS MOTHER AND BROTHERS, seeking to speak with Him. 47Then one said to Him, “Look, YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR BROTHERS are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “WHO IS MY MOTHER and WHO ARE MY BROTHERS?” 49And He stretched out His hand TOWARD HIS DISCIPLES and said, “HERE ARE MY MOTHER AND MY BROTHERS! 50For whoever DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER in heaven is MY BROTHER AND SISTER AND MOTHER.” ...” (Matthew 12:46 – 50, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

  1. Virgin Mary was more blessed than any Woman in the Context of Giving Birth to Lord Jesus Christ and Raising Him

 

“… “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” …”

 

  1. However a person can be “More Blessed” than even Virgin Mary even by OBEYING GOD’S COMMANDS in HIS WORD!

 

“… 28But He said, “MORE THAN THAT, BLESSED are those who HEAR THE WORD OF GOD AND KEEP [Obey] IT!” …”

 

So there is “no” special bias with God as each will be “more blessed” even among the saved according to ‘how much of His Commands we obey/keep’.

 

  1. Christ Treated all equally without giving any special preference to family members even

 

“… 47Then one said to Him, “Look, YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR BROTHERS are standing outside, seeking to speak with You. … 48But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “WHO IS MY MOTHER and WHO ARE MY BROTHERS?” 49And He stretched out His hand TOWARD HIS DISCIPLES and said, “HERE ARE MY MOTHER AND MY BROTHERS! …”

 

  1. True Family in Christ is those who OBEY GOD’s COMMANDS and the bond is lesser with those who pick and choose some parts:

 

“… 50For whoever DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER in heaven is MY BROTHER AND SISTER AND MOTHER.” …”

 

Comments: Strangely, even in ministry sometimes we see the ‘family bias’ in place where they don’t give equal opportunity to all among Christians even. Thoughts to Ponder:

 

  1. If you were of a different race with same skill set, character etc., would you be in your position? (secular or in ministry?) as someone better could have been there but you are chosen based on those bias (let God Decide One Day).

 

  1. Even in ministry, we see some pastors putting their own sons & daughters as leaders and then claim they have experience and qualify them to take over (prejudice isn’t it?) If it is not prejudice, there must be others allowed to serve and a measurement done. God Cannot be Tricked though the world will exhibit all these.

 

iii. No point  in scolding ‘worldly politicians’ all the time (as they are unbelievers) but in Church or in personal promotions (given based on race, or salary based on race),  but we as a Christian never rejected it. That’s why it’s always good to be underpaid in relative measure of others in the same job so that in God’s Eyes we did “not” participate in such biases.

 

 

  1. Some are very good at manipulating where they will seemingly give in for voting various races/backgrounds but then vote in the lesser qualified candidate by ability because of racial bias/family bias and claim “democracy” even in Christian Ministry just because they have the “Majority”. Similarly, some Churches handle their finance like that to bias toward their own race based ministry and/or toward the rich or upper income group. If you didn’t do it, it’s not about you but those who do it will be judged by God.

 

5) First Christianity Quote already Prophesied even His Church Ministry will be full of such Bias to quote (but the “sin is not small”):

 

“… We are of opinion, therefore, that those appointed by them, or afterwards by other eminent men, with the consent of the whole Church, and who have blame-lessly served the flock of Christ in a humble, peaceable, and disinterested spirit, and have for a long time possessed the good opinion of all, cannot be justly dismissed from the ministry. FOR OUR SIN WILL NOT BE SMALL, if we eject from the episcopate those who have blamelessly and holily fulfilled its duties. Blessed are those presbyters who, having finished their course before now, have obtained a fruitful and perfect departure [from this world]; for they have no fear lest any one deprive them of the place now appointed them. But WE SEE THAT YOU HAVE REMOVED SOME MEN OF EXCELLENT BEHAVIOUR FROM THE MINISTRY, WHICH THEY FULFILLED BLAMELESSLY and WITH HONOUR. Ye are fond of contention, brethren, and FULL OF ZEAL ABOUT THINGS which DO NOT PERTAIN TO SALVATION. LOOK CAREFULLY INTO THE SCRIPTURES, which are the TRUE UTTERANCES OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. Observe that nothing of an unjust or counterfeit character is written in them. …” – Blessed St. Clement of Rome, an Apostolic Father being a direct Disciple of the Blessed Apostle St. Peter (c.35 AD – c. 99 AD, 1 Clement, Chapter 44 – 45)

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/1clement-roberts.html

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

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