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“… When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you shall surely die!’ and YOU DO NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED FROM HIS WAY, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; BUT HIS BLOOD I WILL REQUIRE AT YOUR HAND. Nevertheless IF YOU WARN the WICKED to TURN FROM HIS WAY, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but YOU HAVE DELIVERED YOUR SOUL. …” (Ezekiel 33:8 – 9, NKJV)

 

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“Prosperity Testimony” – Questions to Ponder

 

A General Scenario: Imagine your country has majority of religion A and race B but a person of religion C and race D becomes its king by Democracy. So if that “king” comes and gives a testimony of his life, would you leave your religion and convert to that instead?

 

This is a reason “why” I do “not” believe in any “Prosperity” as a

“sign of truth”.

 

The “king” may be from subrace D1 while the others from his native country may be from subrace D2, D3, … where even among them they won’t support those of another subrace easily or if any from their subrace is not of the same religion of C, can you see it?

 

In fact, they won’t even allow subrace D2, D3, etc. to marry those of subrace D1 or some selected subrace only to do so. But despite such racism hidden within their own hearts even, they can be among the “richest” people in the world too. God Will Reveal everything One Day.

 

While people from race D or others wish to be “king” in the land of majority religion A and race B, in their own “native land/motherland” NO ONE from race B or others who do not believe in religion C will ever be a “king” there (in their “motherland”) by “democracy”, an irony isn’t it?

 

The only “Genuine Truth” here I see is that the people of majority religion A and race B have been able to PRACTICE JUSTICE beyond their own religion A and race B which itself puts them at a MORAL LEVEL that is UNSURPASSED by their other counterparts. The day the others can do similarly in not just “appointing a king” but also in “other matters of business and life” then they get closer to “God’s Truth”. Till then, it’s just a “prosperity game” which is an “illusion” which destroys one in the “spirit world”.

 

A similar thing can be seen in regards to “Prosperity Churches” vs “Poorer Churches” likewise in analogy.

 

That’s why Christ put the Command of PERFECTION not as “prosperity” but the CHARITY DOCTRINE:

 

“… 21JESUS said to him, “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS. 23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

That’s why in CHRIST’s OWN WORDS here we see that the GREATEST NUMBER is “ZERO” for those who can do “ZERO PROSPERITY” of “… SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME. …” which I CANNOT DO (so even a scrap of heaven or at the final new earth would suffice for me) but the Greatest Fathers of the Church the world has even known (as I have quoted say in the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook) have done it remarkably. Please note that letting go of wealth and living like a hermit does NOT count much if the “wealth was left to the family” earlier as that person by relative measure did NOT give anything to the poor. I mean the best is to give some to family and according to one’s ability give to the poor as well.

 

An Edifying Comment: Can the country of origin of such persons allow those NOT of same race NOR of same religion to hold such portfolio likewise? (or will they never vote for such even if the candidate is good? NOT just in POLITICS but any field too like for example in Education even they grab the “paying teaching opportunities to themselves instead of the candidate of best qualification among them even” as that’s their “moral level even toward same race but different religion” is only at that level of “prejudice” even. So, Let all Answer God One Day).

 

Conclusion

 

You see it is People who send themselves to “Hell” (even if “Eternal so be it”) due to “their own injustice and unholiness within them” as these few points in comparison itself shows.

 

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Especially those which affect the “future in the Spirit World and beyond” after we die toward the “Resurrection”.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

St. Ambrose of Milan seems to be very CONFIDENT of SUCH NON ELECT SALVATION from the LAKE of FIRE CONTEXT as his quotes next seem to point, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OSAS and NON-ELECT SALVATION Possibility with the Possible Scripture Shepherd of Hermas and Beyond

 

1) What is OSAS?

 

OSAS stands for “Once Saved, Always Saved” doctrinal stance where it was Preached like the great late evangelist Mr. Billy Graham. It basically means that if you have believed in Christ (be Saved), no matter what you sin after that, you will eventually be saved where they quote Bible Verses such as “… whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life …” (John 3:16) making the claim of Salvation based on “FAITH ALONE” (Sola Fide). The extremes of OSAS clearly points that the “WORKS of SIN” does not affect the Final Salvation at all despite one may be punished in this life (or in the afterlife via “Saved by Fire”?). Based on this, they encourage anyone to just believe (or try to believe) so that they could be hope for them.  However, other Christians oppose this position mainly based on the fact that Hebrews 10 or Matthew 22 (as just discussed in last chapter) points to the rejection of MANY and FEW SAVED based on THEIR WORKS. But as we have seen on Page 122 earlier, the Context for “Few Saved” can also refer to the First Resurrection number meaning some could be Saved during the Second Resurrection which can include ‘fallen Christians’ who could be “SAVED by FIRE” (1 Corinthians 3:14 – 15) as per First Christianity’s Chiliasm Champion  of Faith’s quote below which refers to this TIMELINE of between the FIRST AND SECOND RESURRECTION (1000 years Time Period, Revelation 20:5) where some can be “SAVED after this LAKE of FIRE” destroying THEIR WORKS OF SIN (possibly a type of non-Elect Salvation), to quote these:

 

1. i) Saved by Fire

 

“… 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.  …” (1 Corinthians 3:14 – 15, NKJV)

 

1. ii) The “Fire” in “Saved by Fire” referred to is the “Lake of Fire” Context

 

“… 13each ONE’S WORK will become clear; FOR THE DAY WILL DECLARE IT, BECAUSE IT WILL BE REVEALED BY FIRE; and THE FIRE WILL TEST EACH ONE’S WORK, of what sort it is. 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.” (1 Corinthians 3:13 – 15, NKJV)

Note: Either way, there is “loss” despite “being saved” if we end up “saved by fire” where this “Fire” refers to the “Lake of Fire” Context simply because it refers to the “FIRE which is to be REVEALED on THAT DAY (when He Returns or perhaps Judgment Day 1000 years later, no one knows which for sure) in Verses above for ‘this Salvation case’ (most likely non-Elect Salvation I think).

 

iii) First Christianity Quote for Salvation of “Saved by Fire” referring to the “Lake of Fire” Context

 

“… “OUR SAVIOUR has appointed TWO KINDS of RESURRECTION in the APOCALYPSE. ‘Blessed is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION,’ for such COME TO GRACE WITHOUT JUDGMENT. As FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT COME TO THE FIRST, but are reserved unto the SECOND RESURRECTION, THESE SHALL BE DISCIPLINED UNTIL THEIR APPOINTED TIMES, BETWEEN THE FIRST AND THE SECOND RESURRECTION.” …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD)

 

Source: https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Ambrose    or

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambrose#

 

1. iv) Existence of OSAS Christians

 

“… 67. There are SOME, indeed, WHO BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT ABANDON the NAME OF CHRIST, and WHO ARE BAPTIZED in his laver in the Church, who are NOT CUT OFF FROM IT BY SCHISM or HERESY, WHO MAY THEN LIVE IN SINS HOWEVER GREAT, NOT WASHING THEM AWAY BY REPENTANCE, NOR REDEEMING THEM BY ALMS –and WHO OBTINATELY PERSEVERE IN THEM TO LIFE’S LAST DAY – EVEN THESE WILL STILL BE SAVED, “THOUGH AS BY FIRE.” [1 Corinthians 3:15] THEY BELIEVE THAT SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE PUNISHED BY FIRE, PROLONGED IN PROPORTION TO THEIR SINS, BUT STILL NOT ETERNAL. BUT THOSE WHO BELIEVE THUS, and are STILL CATHOLICS, ARE DECEIVED, as it seems to me, by a kind of merely human benevolence. For the divine Scripture, when consulted, answers differently. Moreover, I have written a book about this question, entitled Faith and Works,142 in which, with God’s help, I have shown as best I could that, according to Holy Scripture, the faith that saves is the faith that the apostle Paul adequately describes when he says, “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails anything, nor uncircumcision, but the faith which works through love.”143 But if faith works evil and not good, then without doubt, according to the apostle James “it is dead in itself.”144 He then goes on to say, “If a man says he has faith, yet has not works, can his faith be enough to save him? …” – Blessed St. Augustine of Hippo, Doctor of the Church, who influenced virtually all of subsequent Western philosophy and Catholic theology, as well as a significant amount of Protestant theology (c. 354 AD – c. 430 AD, Point 67, “Faith and Works”, Enchiridion).

Source: http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/augustine_enchiridion_02_trans.htm

 

Comments:

 

1. OSAS Type of Doctrine

 

“… 67. There are SOME, indeed, WHO BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT ABANDON the NAME OF CHRIST, and WHO ARE BAPTIZED in his laver in the Church, who are NOT CUT OFF FROM IT BY SCHISM or HERESY, WHO MAY THEN LIVE IN SINS HOWEVER GREAT, NOT WASHING THEM AWAY BY REPENTANCE, NOR REDEEMING THEM BY ALMS –and WHO OBTINATELY PERSEVERE IN THEM TO LIFE’S LAST DAY – EVEN THESE WILL STILL BE SAVED, “THOUGH AS BY FIRE.” [1 Corinthians 3:15] THEY BELIEVE THAT SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE PUNISHED BY FIRE, PROLONGED IN PROPORTION TO THEIR SINS, BUT STILL NOT ETERNAL. …”

 

1. Please notice carefully that St. Augustine believed in the CHARITY DOCTRINE as a MUST FOR REPENTANCE and ALSO FOR JUDGMENT of SINS to be REMOVED, his quote here (which many protestants deny but CHRIST TAUGHT it clearly in LUKE 11:39 – 45 in this Context too):

 

“… WHO MAY THEN LIVE IN SINS HOWEVER GREAT, NOT WASHING THEM AWAY BY REPENTANCE, NOR REDEEMING THEM BY ALMS –and WHO OBTINATELY PERSEVERE IN THEM TO LIFE’S LAST DAY …”

Please notice the Relative Measure of ability to do REPENTANCE and ALMS (= Charity Doctrine) till the ‘last day’ of one’s earthly life  in St. Augustine’s phrase above proving he believed in it as he contrasts the OSAS type of Christians to DENY THESE.

 

 

 

iii. Some Type of Salvation (possibly non-Elect) is believed by such OSAS Christians even in the Context of LAKE of FIRE quoting 1 Corinthians 3:15’s Context likewise here

“… – EVEN THESE WILL STILL BE SAVED, “THOUGH AS BY FIRE.” [1 Corinthians 3:15] THEY BELIEVE THAT SUCH PEOPLE WILL BE PUNISHED BY FIRE, PROLONGED IN PROPORTION TO THEIR SINS, BUT STILL NOT ETERNAL. …”

 

1. Please notice carefully that even St. Augustine (as strict as he is portrayed) does NOT call these Christians (Catholic means ‘Universal Christians’) as believing in HERESY NOR SCHISM but are STILL SAVED regardless proving clearly that even if errors in Doctrine are made about these areas NO ONE IS A HERETIC

 

“… BUT THOSE WHO BELIEVE THUS, and are STILL CATHOLICS, ARE DECEIVED, as it seems to me, by a kind of merely human benevolence. …”

1. v) Existence of UNIVERSALIST Christians in First Christianity

 

“… “There are very many in our day, who though not denying the Holy Scriptures, do not believe in endless torments. …” — St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430 A.D.)

Source: https://www.mercyuponall.org/tag/church-fathers/

 

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“… Yet even in his wrath–his wrath resting on them–he does not “shut up his mercy.” This is not to put an end to their eternal afflictions, but rather to apply or interpose some little respite in their torments. … Now, if this wrath were all there is in man’s damnation, and even if it were present only in the slightest degree conceivable–still, to be lost out of the Kingdom of God, to be an exile from the City of God, to be estranged from the life of God, to suffer loss of the great abundance of God’s blessings which he has hidden for those who fear him and prepared for those who hope in him240 –this would be a punishment so great that, if it be eternal, no torments that we know could be compared to it, no matter how many ages they continued. …” – Blessed St. Augustine of Hippo, Doctor of the Church, who influenced virtually all of subsequent Western philosophy and Catholic theology, as well as a significant amount of Protestant theology (c. 354 AD – c. 430 AD, Points 112 – 113, CHAPTER XXIX. “The Last Things”, Enchiridion).

Source: http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/augustine_enchiridion_02_trans.htm

Note: St. Augustine of Hippo himself affirms in his own words here that we may contemplate such a possibility described above as “not Denying Holy Scripture” (and hence we are not heretics) even though he believed in Eternal Hell for the Wicked.

 

Also the “Opinion of St. Augustine” is very important indeed simply because even Blessed John Calvin (Founder of the Reformed Church Protestants) himself learnt his theology from St. Augustine’s Writings. Example quote:

 

“…  Augustine is so wholly within me, that if I wished to write a confession of my faith, I could do so with all fullness and satisfaction to myself out of his writings  …” – Blessed John Calvin, Protestant Reformer Theologian (Creator of the Five Point Calvinism or Tulips Doctrine for Protestanism)

Source: Calvin, John. A Treatise on the Eternal Predestination of God. in Calvin, John (1987). Calvin’s Calvinism. Translated by Henry Cole. Grandville, MI: Reformed Free Publishing Association. p. 38

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustinian_Calvinism

 

1. vi) St. Ambrose’s Quotes detailing the Lake of Fire understanding as Salvation is Possible from there? You decide, example discussion in support of it is as follows:

 

St. Ambrose defined Luke 12:49 to refer to the Final Lake of Fire/Gehenna Judgment as the Final Baptism of Fire on that Day toward the Wicked or Fallen Believers too where the sin or the work of the flesh:

 

“… I came to set the earth on fire, and what is my will, if not that finally it lights up? [Luke 12:49] I must be baptized with a baptism, and what is my torment as long as it is not accomplished! ” Higher up, He has kept us vigilant, waiting at all times for the coming of the Lord Savior, lest by slackening, by negligence, by differing from day to day his work, such, preceded by the day of the future judgment or by his own death, lose the reward of his management. It was addressed to all, in the form of a general precept; but the theme of the following comparison seems to be proposed to the bishops, that is to say, to the bishops, to let them know that they will have to undergo a severe punishment later, if, occupied with the pleasures of the century, they neglected to govern the house of the Lord and the people entrusted to them. But as the profit is thin, and the merit is low, when it is the fear of the punishment which prevents from going astray, since the charity and the love have a superior dignity, the Lord sharpens our zeal to deserve its favor and we are inflamed with the desire to acquire God, saying, “I have come to set fire to the earth,” not certainly the fire that consumes the goods, but the one that produces the good will, which makes the vases of and from the house of the Lord, consuming the hay and the straw (I Cor. iii. 12ff., 1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15), devouring all the gangue of the age, amassed by worldly pleasure, the work of the flesh that is to perish;… They have thus taught with evidentness what is the action of this fire, which enlightens the intimate of the heart. For this reason perhaps the Lord will come into the fire (see Is., LXVI, 15; 16): to consume all the vices at the moment of the resurrection, to fill by his presence the desires of each one, and to project the light on merits and mysteries….” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Commentary on Luke XII, Verses Luke 12:49 – 50)

Source:

 

https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home/luke-commentary/ambrose-on-luke-12

 

 

Proof Phrase that this Refers to the Final Lake of Fire Judgment toward those Christians who are treated as Unbelievers (Luke 12:46) from the above by St. Ambrose himself: “… I came to set the earth on fire … preceded by the day of the future judgment or by his own death, lose the reward of his management. It was addressed to all… seems to be proposed to the bishops, that is to say, to the bishops, to let them know that they will have to undergo a severe punishment later, if, occupied with the pleasures of the century, they neglected to govern the house of the Lord and the people entrusted to them … I have come to set fire to the earth,” not certainly the fire that consumes the goods, but the one that produces the good will, which makes the vases of and from the house of the Lord, consuming the hay and the straw (I Cor. iii. 12ff., 1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15), devouring all the gangue of the age, amassed by worldly pleasure, the work of the flesh that is to perish;…”.

 

 

Indeed, you can clearly see that St. Ambrose reveals that some Christian leaders or bishops are punished as unbelievers (Luke 12:46) in the Lake of Fire Context (hence the current purgatory is not enough) during the future Day of Judgment in a fire which produces ‘good will’ as he even quotes 1 Corinthians 3:12 implying that 1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15 may be applied to mean Salvation from the Lake of Fire, yes “even so through fire” (1 Corinthians 3:15) toward such fallen-believers who are deemed equal to unbelievers who have ‘equal sentences’ (Luke 12:46) proving our Context Claim Right Again. Can you see it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regardless, the “wicked” are said to be in the lake of Fire only till the last penny (not forever but an Aeonian Sentence which is proportioned according to their sin) as St. Ambrose’s commentary on Verses 58 – 59 prior clearly prove as follows:

 

“… It will be the same at the end of time: the angels will come to separate the wicked from the righteous, and throw them into the blazing furnace … or the punishment diminished according to the appreciation of the wrong … so, here, to be purified, because the sin of each is purified by the kind of transaction described above. … On the other hand, the guilty person is tortured and tortured as long as he has not served the sentence of the error committed…” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (Commentary on Luke 12:58 – 59, highlighted)

Christ Himself is the “Fire” through which they are Saved (1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15) as St. Ambrose Revealed above:

 

“… For this reason perhaps the Lord will come into the fire (see Is., LXVI, 15; 16): to consume all the vices at the moment of the resurrection, to fill by his presence the desires of each one, and to project the light on merits and mysteries….” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (Commentary on Luke 12:49, highlighted)

 

Strangely, the Commentary for Luke 12:46 – 48 is missing in the link above. Did St. Ambrose not write it or was it lost in history?

 

Two Ways Sin is Diminished in the ‘Prison’ of the Lake of Fire

 

Bible Verses:

 

 

“… For while you are going with your opponent to appear before the magistrate, on your way there make an effort to settle with him, so that he may not drag you before the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer throw you into prison. “I say to you, you will not get out of there until you have paid the very last cent. …” – Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:58 – 59, NASB)

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. a) 1st & 2nd Way Combined (the Last Baptism of Fire which applies to All Human Being either in this life or next – Mark 9:49, Joel 2:28, Acts 2:17):

 

“…Likewise here: either the wrong is redeemed at the price of charity, or the punishment diminished according to the appreciation of the wrong. Now it is the custom, as we remember, to give a bath to the baths: by presenting it, everyone obtains the faculty of bathing there; so, here, to be purified, because the sin of each is purified by the kind of transaction described above. On the other hand, the guilty person is tortured and tortured as long as he has not served the sentence of the error committed…” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Commentary on Luke XII, Verses Luke 12:58 – 59, highlighted)

 

 

1. b) 1st Way highlighted:

 

“…Likewise here: either the wrong is redeemed at the price of charity, … so, here, to be purified, because the sin of each is purified by the kind of transaction described above. …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Commentary on Luke XII, Verses Luke 12:58 – 59, highlighted)

 

 

1. c) 2nd Way highlighted:

 

“…Likewise here: either … or the punishment diminished according to the appreciation of the wrong. … so, here, to be purified, because the sin of each is purified by the kind of transaction described above… the guilty person is tortured and tortured as long as he has not served the sentence of the error committed…” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Commentary on Luke XII, Verses Luke 12:58 – 59, highlighted)

 

 

I repeat: Though I argue as though St. Ambrose must have believed like this, I am “not” Saying that this must be it but as a “possibility” only these days since no one can say for sure. So for Truth’s sake, I present the evidence for such claims accordingly from Orthodox First Christianity and not by quoting heretics.

 

 

 

vii) St. Ambrose of Milan himself could have been an Universalist

 

St. Augustine’s Teacher and Converter, St. Ambrose of Milan himself may have believed in Universalism too, Example Quotes:

 

 

“… 167. How, then, will they be brought into subjection? In the way that the Lord Himself has said. “Take My yoke upon you.” It is not the fierce that bear the yoke, but the humble and the gentle. This clearly is NON BASE SUBJECTION for MEN, but a GLORIOUS ONE: “that in the NAME of JESUS EVERY KNEE should bow, of things in heaven and things beneath; and that EVERY  TONGUE should CONFESS that JESUS IS LORD in the Glory of God the Father.” But for this reason all things were not made subject before, for they had not yet received the wisdom of God, not yet did they wear the easy yoke of the Word on the neck as it were of their mind. “But as many as received Him,” as it is written, “to them gave He power to become the sons of God.” 168. Will any one say that Christ is now made subject, because MANY have BELIEVED? Certainly NOT. For Christ’s subjection lies NOT in a FEW but in ALL. For just as I do not seem to be brought into subjection, if the flesh in me as yet lusts against the spirit, and the spirit against the flesh, although I am in part subdued; so because the WHOLE CHURCH is the one body of Christ, we DIVIDE CHRIST as long as the HUMAN RACE DISAGREES. Therefore Christ is not yet made subject, for His members are not yet brought into subjection. But when we have become, not many members, but one spirit, then He also will become subject, in order that through His subjection   “God may be ALL and IN ALL.”  …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo  (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Ambrose: Selected Works and Letters, Book V Prologue, Points 167 – 168,  Page 720)

 

Source:

 

https://archive.org/stream/St.AmbroseSelectedWorksAndLetters/st_ambrose_selected_works_and_letters_djvu.txt

 

 

 

 

 

“… Let us then shortly sum up our CONCLUSION on the whole matter. A unity of power puts aside all idea of a degrading subjection. His giving up of power, and His victory as conqueror won over death, have not lessened His power. Obedience works out subjection. Christ has taken obedience upon Himself, obedience even to taking on Him our flesh, the cross even to gaining our salvation. Thus where the work lies, there too is the Author of the work. When therefore, all things have become subject to Christ, through Christ’s obedience, so that ALL bend their knees in His name, then He Himself will be ALL in ALL. For NOW, since ALL do NOT BELIEVE, ALL do NOT seem to be in SUBJECTION. But WHEN ALL have BELIEVED and DONE the will of God, then Christ will be ALL and in ALL. And when Christ is all and in all, then will God be all and in all; for the Father abides ever in the Son. How, then, is He shown to be weak, Who redeemed the weak? …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo  (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Selected Works and Letters, Page 726, Chapter 15, Point 182)

 

Source:

 

https://archive.org/stream/St.AmbroseSelectedWorksAndLetters/st_ambrose_selected_works_and_letters_djvu.txt

 

 

“… This is that peace above all peace which shall be granted AFTER the THIRD SHAKING of the heaven, the sea, the earth and the dry land, when He shall DESTROY ALL PRINCIPALITIES and POWERS [Ephesians 6:12, Colossians 2:15, Isaiah 24:21]. For HEAVEN and EARTH shall PASS AWAY [Revelation 21:1],306 and ALL  the FASHION of this WORLD [1 Corinthians 7:31, 1 John 2:17]; … And thus there will be peace over all, the passions of the body offering no resistance, and the UNBELIEVING mind NO OBSTACLE [Romans 3:3 – 4], that CHRIST may be ALL in ALL [1 Corinthians 15:24 – 28], offering in SUBJECTION to the Father the HEARTS of ALL MEN [1 Timothy 2:4, 1 Timothy 4:10] …”  – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo  (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, LETTER XXX, AMBROSE TO IRENAEUS, GREETING, Point 14)

 

Source:

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/ambrose_letters_03_letters21_30.htm

 

 

“… Paul makes a prayer for himself when he says: ‘That God may open the ‘door of his Word for me to announce the MYSTERY of CHRIST.‘ 15 Appropriate for the occasion was the substance of his prayer. In preaching the Gospel he was clearly chosen to be the one who opened the door of the Word, from which issued the SALVATION of the GENTILES and LIFE itself for ALL PEOPLE. … [Salvation for Which People? Context: All Men = the Whole Human Race as St. Ambrose explains just three points later as follows] … You are instructed above all to pray for the people, that is, for ALL MEN [1 Timothy 2:1], 28 for all members of your family, which is a conspicuous sign of mutual love. If you make a petition for yourself, then you pray merely for your own satisfaction. If everyone were thus to make a petition just for himself, he would become, not a petitioner, but an intercessor for favors. We conclude, therefore, that a petition for oneself is restricted to the person petitioning, whereas a PETITION for ALL MEN INCLUDES ONESELF, as you are a part of that number. Hence, great is the recompense wherein ALL MEN are accorded the benefits acquired by the prayers of each individual of the group. In this there is no question of presumption. Rather, it is much more the reflection of a humble heart, bestowing benefits more abundantly. …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the first Great Latin Doctor of the Church, Converter, Baptizer and Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo  (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD, Ambrose: fathers of the church, Gain and Abel, Points 36, 39, Chapter 9 Page 392, 395)

 

Source:

https://archive.org/stream/fathersofthechur027571mbp/fathersofthechur027571mbp_djvu.txt

 

Again, no one can say for certain if St. Ambrose of Milan was a Universalist or not but it certainly “possible” in light of all these quotes from his writings. As I said, we consider these as a “possibility” since no one knows for sure.

 

 

Comment: So John 3:16 can include such ones too, right? If not, then this Verse Speaks of a possible “non-Elect Salvation” and Let God Decide one day which is the case. Now even if the Context of Verses above Speaks of a “Fallen Christian” (Luke 12:46 – 48), his portion (final fate) is said to be EQUAL to UNBELIEVERS (Luke 12:46) meaning that these Verses could likewise all point to the NON-ELECT SALVATION of SAVED BY FIRE (1 Corinthians 3:15) making OSAS and possibly Christ Centered Universalism true likewise for “RANSOM for ALL” (e.g. 1 Timothy 2:6) may point really to “… ALL MEN to be SAVED …” eventually (1 Timothy 2:4) and hence PRAYERS and THANKSGIVINGs are made for ALL MEN in light of this Hope (1 Timothy 2:1) though some “BY [Lake of Fire] FIRE” only if these are understood in this way which is “possible” too as demonstrated via St. Ambrose of Milan’s quotes itself here.

“… 1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for ALL MEN; … 4Who will have ALL MEN to be SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. … 6Who gave himself a RANSOM for ALL, to be testified in DUE TIME[s]. 7Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity. …” (1 Timothy 2:1, 4, 6 – 7, KJV)

 

2) St. Athanasius and RANSOM for ALL Meaning

St. Athanasius seems to understand that Christ’s “Ransom for ALL” includes even to the JEWS who DID NOT BELIEVE in HIM on earth too in the context of “SALVATION for ALL” eventually (if this is what he meant below, difficult, right?)

 

“… He it is that was crucified before the sun and all creation as witnesses, and before those who put Him to death: and by His death has SALVATION  come to ALL, and ALL CREATION  been RANSOMED. He is the Life of all, and He it is that as a sheep yielded His body to death as a substitute, for the SALVATION  of ALL, even though the Jews believe it not…” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, Point 7, S:37. PSALM XXII. 16, &C. MAJESTY OF HIS BIRTH AND DEATH. CONFUSION OF ORACLES AND DEMONS IN EGYPT)

 

Source: https://www.ecatholic2000.com/fathers/untitled-820.shtml#_Toc390306303

 

1. ii) St. Athanasius and NON-ELECT Salvation POSSIBILITY

 

This Context is strong because we know that St. Athanasius most likely believed in some type of non-Elect Salvation FROM HADES too based on his quote below (pointing to BELIEVING after SEEING POSSIBILITY as discussed in earlier Books)

 

“… And if a man has gone down even to HADES, and stands awestruck before the heroes who have descended thither, regarding them as gods, still he may see the fact of Christ’s resurrection and His victory over death, and reason from it that, of all these, He alone is very Lord and God. For the Lord touched all parts of creation, and freed and undeceived them all from every deceit. As St. Paul says, “Having put off from Himself the principalities and the powers, He triumphed on the cross,”(Col. 2. 15) so that no one could possibly be any longer deceived, but everywhere might find the very Word of God. For thus man, enclosed on every side by the works of creation and everywhere-in heaven, in HADES, in men and on the earth, beholding the unfolded Godhead of the Word, is no longer deceived concerning God, but worships Christ alone, and through Him rightly knows the Father. On these grounds, then, of reason and of principle, we will fairly silence the Gentiles in their turn. But if they think these arguments insufficient to confute them, we will go on in the next chapter to prove our point from facts. … ” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, ‘On the Incarnation’, , Ibid, Chapter 7/ Section 45)

 

Translation Source:

https://www.worldinvisible.com/library/athanasius/incarnation/incarnation.7.htm

 

iii) St. Athanasius’ Approval of the Shepherd of Hermas for ‘Greater Accuracy’

 

Now, since St. Athanasius also ACCEPTED the SHEPHERD of HERMAS WRITING QUOTED EARLIER in the CONTEXT of NON-ELECT SALVATION as TRUTH (even if not at the Level of Canonical Scripture) as he says to “GREATER ACCURACY in regards to the DOCTRINE of PIETY” (his own words testify as follows):

 

“… These are the springs of salvation, in order that he who is thirsty may fully refresh himself with the words contained in them. In them alone is the doctrine of piety proclaimed. Let no one add anything to them or take anything away from them… But for the sake of greater accuracy I add, being constrained to write, that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. And although, beloved, the former are in the canon and the latter serve as reading matter, yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics, who write them down when it pleases them and generously assign to them an early date of composition in order that they may be able to draw upon them as supposedly ancient writings and have in them occasion to deceive the guileless. …” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, The 39th Festal Letter of Athanasius (367 CE))  Source: http://www.ntcanon.org/Athanasius.shtml

 

Note: Quoting the later councils and all that doesn’t matter so much because they all quote St. Athanasius for the 27 Book New Testament as even the Protestants do. I know of no earlier leader of the church to mention such number of books but may list more too or less too or not mention some too. I have discussed these same quotes and more on Page 179 onward in this Book.

A keen eye would notice that for St. Athanasius at that time even, the “Book of Esther” was “outside of the Bible” (just like the Shepherd of Hermas or others mentioned in his quote above) but today is one of the 66 books meaning these other books also could be likewise in his quote above: “…that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd.  …”

 

*Shepherd = Shepherd of Hermas (in quote above)

 

St. Athanasius clearly points that each of these listed books are “accepted” while he states as “Apocrypha”  in his usage here “NOT” referring to these books but ‘other fake books made by heretics’ (which are “not” listed here meaning what is “not” listed could be potentially from heretical sources). That quote from above:

 

“…And although, beloved, the former are in the canon and the latter serve as reading matter, yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics, who write them down when it pleases them and generously assign to them an early date of composition in order that they may be able to draw upon them as supposedly ancient writings and have in them occasion to deceive the guileless. …” …”

 

Comments, please consider these phrases carefully:

 

1) “… the former are in the canon  …” = 27 New Testament Books (Accepted)

 

2) “… and the latter serve as reading matter, …” = “… .that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd [of Hermas]. …” (Accepted)

 

3) “… yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics …” = Books which are “not” listed above (Rejected).

 

4) Shepherd of Hermas and NON ELECT SALVATION POSSIBILITY

 

1. i) Firstly, each is given a Relative Measure of Faith according to GRACE GIVEN

 

“… For I say, through the GRACE GIVEN to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as GOD HAS DEALT TO EACH ONE A MEASURE OF FAITH. …” (Romans 12:3, NKJV)

Comment: The phrase “… as GOD HAS DEALT TO EACH ONE A MEASURE OF FAITH. …” in the above itself proves that ‘Christianity will have differences In Doctrine where we could get some parts right others wrong or vice versa’ but yet CAN BE SAVED (room for error is there). If there is “no” rooms for Doctrinal Errors, then there wouldn’t be a “measure” of “faith” but “equal” measure of “faith” to all which is NOT what’s Written here. So, regarding ‘who is right doctrinally, let God Decide One Day and Reward accordingly’.

 

We use the “Shepherd of Hermas” Writing because in the last section prior, we already showed that St. Athanasius the Great himself proves it as “True” in the Context of “GREATER ACCURACY” in ‘his own words’. So this could be a Doctrinal “Possibility” since we are not sure 100%. Please bear in mind that this Shepherd of Hermas was considered Scripture by many Champions of Faith in early Christianity even as discussed say in Pages 61 to 63 in the free #EternalhellAnnihilationandUniversalismBook while in Pages 64 to 68 the NON-ELECT SALVATION POSSIBILITY is DICUSSED to INCLUDE EVEN THE UNBAPTIZED Persons (that’s why this must be a NON-ELECT SALVATION if True) as it is PLACED OUTSIDE the TOWER (which is the CHURCH). Example quotes:

 

1. a) Shepherd of Hermas was considered Scripture by these First Christianity Greats of Faith

 

Shepherd of Hermas which was considered Scripture-Level in First Christianity by even St. Irenaeous of Lyons (Hearer/Disciple of St. Polycarp an apostolic father being the direct disciple of Apostle St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation) , Tertullian (father of Latin Christianity), Pope Callixtus I (Head of the entire Roman Catholic Church in his time in First Christianity), St. Clement of Alexandria (head of the Cathecatical School of Alexandria) and even the First Bibles of Christianity (the Muratorian or Roman Canon in the West & the Codex Claromontanus Canon in the East) while Eusebius (father of Church History) and St. Athanasius the Great (father of orthodoxy & Champion of Trinity) approved of its use for catechumens

Please be careful of some Protestant attitude to simply claim some very rough language against the ‘Shepherd of Hermas’ Book because if on Judgment Day it turns out to be “Scripture”, condemning any Scripture could be liable to the “Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” which has “no” forgiveness either in this age nor in the age to come:

“… Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 12:32, NKJV)

 

1. b) Shepherd of Hermas non-Elect Salvation Quotes

 

“… “Now the other stones which you saw cast far away from the tower, and falling upon the public road and rolling from it into pathless places, are those who have indeed believed, but through doubt have abandoned the true road. Thinking, then, that they could find a better, they wander and become wretched, and enter upon pathless places. But those which fell into the fire and were burned? are those who have departed for ever from the living God; nor does the thought of repentance ever come into their hearts, on account of their devotion to their lusts and to the crimes which they committed. Do you wish to know who are the others which fell near the waters, but could not be rolled into them? THESE ARE THEY WHO HAVE HEARD THE WORD, and WISH TO BE BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord; but when the chastity demanded by the truth comes into their recollection, they draw back, and AGAIN WALK AFTER THEIR OWN WICKED DESIRES.” She FINISHED her EXPOSITION of the TOWER. But I, shameless as I yet was, asked her, “IS REPENTANCE POSSIBLE FOR ALL THOSE STONES WHICH HAVE BEEN CAST AWAY and DID NOT FIT INTO THE BUILDING of the TOWER, AND WILL THEY YET HAVE A PLACE IN THIS TOWER?” “REPENTANCE,” said she, “IS YET POSSIBLE, BUT IN THIS TOWER [of Repentance*] THEY CANNOT FIND A SUITABLE PLACE. But in another and MUCH INFERIOR PLACE THEY WILL BE LAID, and that, too, ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TORTURED AND COMPLETED THE DAYS OF THEIR SINS. And on this account will they be transferred, because they have PARTAKEN of the RIGHTEOUS WORD. And then only will they be removed from their punishments when the THOUGHT of REPENTING of the evil deeds which they have done has come into their hearts. But if it does not come into their hearts, they will not be saved, on account of the hardness of their heart.” …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Chapter VII, Third Vision, Translated by another Well Known Scholar Mr. Roberts-Donaldson)

 

Source:  http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

The part in quote above which proves non-Elect salvation Outside the “Tower = Church” here: “… “REPENTANCE,” said she, “IS YET POSSIBLE, BUT IN THIS TOWER THEY CANNOT FIND A SUITABLE PLACE. But in another and MUCH INFERIOR PLACE THEY WILL BE LAID, and that, too, ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TORTURED AND COMPLETED THE DAYS OF THEIR SINS.  …”.

 

1. c) How do we know that the Context of “Tower” here Parabolically refers to the “Tower of Repentance”? It’s Described earlier as follows ‘Tower [of Repentance]’ = ‘the Church’ = ‘the Elect Salvation’ so the Salvation described earlier must be a ‘Salvation OUTSIDE the TOWER (Church) in ANOTHER PLACE MUCH MORE INFERIOR, hence NON-ELECT SALVATION’ if these are read ‘as it is Written’ here and ‘Compared’, to quote:

 

“…  “Many indeed shall hear, and hearing, some shall be glad, and some shall weep. But even these, if they hear and repent, shall also rejoice. Hear, then, the PARABLES of the TOWER; for I will reveal all to you, and give me no more trouble in regard to revelation: for these revelations have an end, for they have been completed. But you will not cease praying for revelations, for you are shameless. The TOWER which you see building is myself, THE CHURCH, who have appeared to you now and on the former occasion. Ask, then, whatever you like in regard to the tower, and I will reveal it to you, that you may rejoice with the saints.”  …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Chapter III, Third Vision, Translated by another Well Known Scholar Mr. Roberts-Donaldson)

Source:  http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

 

1. ii) Born Again Bible Verses

 

“… 3Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.” …” (John 3:3 – 6, NKJV)

 

iii) Shepherd of Hermas Born Again Quotes

 

“… 13[90]:5 “Listen,” saith he. “The name of the Son of God is great and incomprehensible, and sustaineth the whole world. If then all creation is sustained by the Son [of God], what thinkest thou of those that are called by Him, and bear the name of the Son of God, and walk according to His commandments? 13[90]:6 Seest thou then what manner of men He sustaineth? Even those that bear His name with their whole heart. He Himself then is become their foundation, and He sustaineth them gladly, because they are not ashamed to bear His name.” 15[92]:1 “Declare to me, Sir,” say I, “the names of the virgins, and of the women that are clothed in the black garments.” “Hear,” saith he, “the names of the more powerful virgins, those that are stationed at the corners. 15[92]:2 The first is Faith, and the second, Continence, and the third, Power, and the fourth, Long-suffering. But the others stationed between them have these names–Simplicity, Guilelessness, Purity, Cheerfulness, Truth, Understanding, Concord, Love. He that beareth these names and the name of the Son of God shall be able to enter into the kingdom of God. 15[92]:3 Hear,” saith he, “likewise the names of the women that wear the black garments. Of these also four are more powerful than the rest; the first is Unbelief; the second, Intemperance; the third, Disobedience; the fourth, Deceit; and their followers are called, Sadness, Wickedness, Wantonness, Irascibility, Falsehood, Folly, Slander, Hatred. The servant of God that beareth these names shall see the kingdom of God, but shall not enter into it.” …” – The Shepherd of Hermas (Parable 9, Chapter 13 to 15, Mr. Lightfoot’s Translation)

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd-lightfoot.html

 

 

Or

 

“CHAPTER XIV … Listen,” he said: “the name of the Son of God is great, and cannot be contained, and supports the whole world. If, then, the whole creation is supported by the Son of God, what think ye of those who are called by Him, and bear the name of the Son of God, and walk in His commandments? do you see what kind of persons He supports? Those who bear His name with their whole heart. He Himself, accordingly, became a foundation to them, and supports them with joy, because they are not ashamed to bear His name.”  CHAPTER XV.  “Explain to me, sir,” I said, “the names of these virgins, and of those women who were clothed in black raiment.” “Hear,” he said, “the names of the stronger virgins who stood at the comers. The first is Faith, the second Continence, the third Power, the fourth Patience. And the others standing in the midst of these have the following names: Simplicity, Innocence, Purity, Cheerfulness, Truth, Understanding, Harmony, Love. He who bears these names and that of the Son of God will be able to enter into the kingdom of God. Hear, also,” he continued, “the names of the women who had the black garments; and of these four are stronger than the rest. The first is Unbelief, the second: Incontinence, the third Disobedience, the fourth Deceit. And their followers are called Sorrow, Wickedness, Wantonness, Anger, Falsehood, Folly, Backbiting, Hatred. The servant of God who bears these names shall see, indeed, the kingdom of God, but shall not enter into it.” “And the stones, sir,” I said, “which were taken out of the pit and fitted into the building: what are they?” “The first,” he said, “the ten, viz, that were placed as a foundation, are the first generation, and the twenty-five the second generation, of righteous men; and the thirty-five are the prophets of God and His ministers; and the forty are the apostles and teachers of the preaching of the Son of God.” “Why, then, sir,” I asked, “did the virgins carry these stones also through the gate, and give them for the building of the tower?” “Because,” he answered, “these were the first who bore these spirits, and they never departed from each other, neither the spirits from the men nor the men from the spirits, but the spirits remained with them until their falling asleep. And unless they had had these spirits with them, they would not have been of use for the building of this tower.” …” – The Shepherd of Hermas (Parable 9, Chapter 13 to 15, Mr. Donaldson’s Translation)

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

1. iv) SEE His Kingdom – POSSIBLE MEANING

 

 

 

“… Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is BORN AGAIN he cannot SEE the kingdom of God. …” (John 3:3, NASB)

 

“… 15[92]:3 Hear,” saith he, “likewise the names of the women that wear the black garments. Of these also four are more powerful than the rest; the first is Unbelief; the second, Intemperance; the third, Disobedience; the fourth, Deceit; and their followers are called, Sadness, Wickedness, Wantonness, Irascibility, Falsehood, Folly, Slander, Hatred. The servant of God that beareth these names shall SEE the kingdom of God, …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Parable 9, 15[92]:3, Mr. Lightfoot’s Translation)

 

 

So, SEEing His Kingdom is ONLY for those being BORN AGAIN (John 3:3). The Shepherd of Hermas implies that the WICKED [FALLEN CHRISTIAN or ‘Servants of God’ who WORE THESE BLACK GARMENTS of sin] will SEE His Kingdom and hence MUST be BORN AGAIN too and be “Saved” as per the NON-ELECT Salvation OUTSIDE the TOWER most likely (as per quote i) earlier) if “these Verses are compared as it is Written”.

 

Notice that the Shepherd of Hermas clearly mentions that these can SEE the KINGDOM (being BORN AGAIN) but CANNOT ENTER IT implying a SALVATION OUTSIDE the TOWER (Kingdom of God) even if SAVED.

 

This is Possible based on Verses below where being BORN AGAIN (Romans 8:20 – 21) where this aspect of the Sons of God, (His Elect – Romans 8:19) is SHARED by ALL CREATION eventually (Romans 8:22):

 

 

“… 19For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of [f]corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. …” (Romans 8:19 – 22, NKJV)

 

All Creation (Romans 8:22) —> will be BORN AGAIN (as the Greek Word in Romans 8:22 refers to ‘Birth Pangs’ Implying this, and has the Word ALL in front of ‘Creation’) —> in the Aspect of ‘liberty from Vanity or Decay, the corruption of sin’ causing ‘sin to cease to exist eventually’ as it is mentioned first in Immediate Consecutive Verses (Romans 8:20 – 21) —> where we, the ‘believers in faith’ (of ‘church’) are ‘more special’ inheriting more than just that (as the Verse earlier in Romans 8:19 describes the ‘rest of creation’ awaiting this).

 

In comparison, those who enter the Kingdom of God (Christians) must be BORN BOTH OF WATER and SPIRIT (Keep Repentance and His Commands).

 

1. V) This NON-ELECT Salvation OUTSIDE the TOWER includes even the UNBAPTIZED who SINNED LIKEWISE and so in light of the SAME PORTION with UNBELIEVERS for FALLEN CHRISTIANS, this NON-ELECT Salvation TYPE may be POSSIBLE for such too:

 

“… THESE ARE THEY WHO HAVE HEARD THE WORD, and WISH TO BE BAPTIZED in the name of the Lord; but when the chastity demanded by the truth comes into their recollection, they draw back, and AGAIN WALK AFTER THEIR OWN WICKED DESIRES.” She FINISHED her EXPOSITION of the TOWER. But I, shameless as I yet was, asked her, “IS REPENTANCE POSSIBLE FOR ALL THOSE STONES WHICH HAVE BEEN CAST AWAY and DID NOT FIT INTO THE BUILDING of the TOWER, AND WILL THEY YET HAVE A PLACE IN THIS TOWER?” “REPENTANCE,” said she, “IS YET POSSIBLE, BUT IN THIS TOWER  THEY CANNOT FIND A SUITABLE PLACE. But in another and MUCH INFERIOR PLACE THEY WILL BE LAID, and that, too, ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN TORTURED AND COMPLETED THE DAYS OF THEIR SINS. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Chapter VII, Third Vision, Translated by another Well Known Scholar Mr. Roberts-Donaldson)

 

Source:  http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

“… 45But IF THAT SERVANT SAYS in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, 46the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and WILL CUT HIM IN TWO AND APPOINT HIM HIS PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS. 47And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, FROM HIM MUCH WILL BE REQUIRED; and TO WHOM MUCH HAS BEEN COMMITTED, OF HIM THEY WILL ASK THE MORE.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:45 – 48, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

It is certainly “Possible” for such Worst Case Scenarios even and so Let God Decide One Day and I just present it as a “Possibility” only for this “Non-Elect Salvation” for both the sinning Fallen Christian and sinning unbelievers’ same portion of Judgment likewise and whatever God Decides One Day, we accept it.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

Women’s Day – Which Christian Woman does the New Testament Praise?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161546767807784

 

There are only a few women mentioned in the New Testament in the Context of “BEING PRAISED BY SCRIPTURE OR BY GOD” (Human Praise is orchestrated and vain*).

 

*Example: Just like in politics or in some Churches, they will support financially only some selected women or those of their same race, run their programs and reject others who say want to run Classes for free at Church for the poor (e.g. like the early missionaries) claiming no money but can run expensive Tadika’s to Homeschool because it benefits the Rich. The missionary women of the past in contrast Taught even Math for free (as I recently saw a Math Olympiad Coach from the Philippines giving a tribute to one such woman who passed away recently where possibly the local Church supported her beautifully by just paying her salary or allowance for that. Even this, the Modern Churches don’t want to spend which is contrary to the true Missionary Minded Churches of the past. God Will judge so let us do even with one person if that’s the only relative measure we had.

 

Anyway, please consider these:

 

1) The KING, Most Blessed LORD JESUS CHRIST Talked to a few women in the New Testament but I have NEVER SEEN HIM PRAISE ANY WOMEN MORE THAN THIS (Verse in image too)

 

“… [1And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2and He saw also a CERTAIN POOR WIDOW putting in two mites.][a] 3So He said, “TRULY I say to you that this POOR widow has put in MORE THAN ALL; 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings [b]for God, but she OUT OF HER POVERTY PUT IN ALL THE LIVELIHOOD THAT SHE HAD.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 21:1 – 4, NKJV)

 

Comments: “… And the MOST BLESSED KING HIMSELF LOOKED UP AND SAW THE POOR WIDOW WITH TWO COINS …”.  This Blessed  POOR WIDOW WITH 2 COINS outdid the GIVING of others which may “not” even have fed any or fed few in comparison to the rich’s giving “out of their abundance” (Luke 21:1 – 4) which fed many which proves clearly that GOD DOES NOT LOOK AT OUTWARD RESULTS AT ALL BUT ONLY RELATIVE MEASURE which REFLECTS THE HEART in Principle of Judgment (e.g. Luke 12:46 – 48’s “more is given more is required”) .

 

2) Blessed Tabitha who is Praised by New Testament Scripture as a True Christian even to her untimely Death

 

“… 36At Joppa there was a certain disciple named TABITHA, which is translated Dorcas. This woman was FULL OF GOOD WORKS AND CHARITABLE DEEDS which SHE DID. 37But it happened in those days that she became sick and died. … 40But Peter put them all out, and knelt down and prayed. And turning to the body he said, “Tabitha, arise.” And she opened her eyes, and when she saw Peter she sat up. 41Then he gave her his hand and lifted her up; and when he had called the saints and widows, he presented her alive. 42And it became known throughout all Joppa, and many believed on the Lord. …” (Acts 9:36 – 37, 40 – 42, NKJV)

 

Comments: What if a woman is “not” married? She still collects “her oil” to be a “Wise Virgin” as per this Bible Verse above (which describes a ‘dead woman’ who was later raised to life, in fact a young girl where “no” other actions of her life be it praying/fasting/religious deeds are mentioned/praised by Holy Scripture upon her death even except this CHARITY DOCTRINE Lifestyle proving its Utmost Importance “first”).

 

3) The Blessed Widow whom Blessed Apostle St. Paul himself Praises for her CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of “… if SHE HAS LODGED STRANGERS, … if SHE HAS RELIEVED THE AFFLICTED …” (Examples)

 

“… 9Do not let a widow under sixty years old be taken into the number, and not unless she has been the wife of one man, 10WELL REPORTED FOR GOOD WORKS: if she has BROUGHT UP CHILDREN, if SHE HAS LODGED STRANGERS, if she has washed the saints’ feet, if SHE HAS RELIEVED THE AFFLICTED, if she has DILIGENTLY FOLLOWED EVERY GOOD WORK. …” (1 Timothy 5:9 – 10, NKJV)

 

Comments: Please notice that for women, the phrase “… BROUGHT UP CHILDREN …” (in Verse above also applies as a Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Command for those who have children) which may explain the Context for this Famous Verse below too likewise:

 

 

 

“… 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15Nevertheless SHE WILL BE SAVED IN CHILDBEARING IF THEY CONTINUE IN FAITH, LOVE, and HOLINESS, WITH SELF-CONTROL. …” (1 Timothy 2:14 – 15, NKJV)

 

4) Other New Testament Women all PRAISED FOR THEIR CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of PROVIDING FOOD AND NEEDS (Charity Doctrine Lifestyle yet again)

 

“… 1Now it came to pass, afterward, that He went through every city and village, preaching and [a]bringing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God. And the twelve were with Him, 2and certain women who had been healed of evil spirits and [b]infirmities—Mary called Magdalene, out of whom had come seven demons, 3and Joanna the wife of Chuza, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and MANY OTHERS WHO PROVIDED FOR [C]HIM FROM THEIR [D]SUBSTANCE. …” (Luke 8:1 – 3, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

 

If you find any women whose Traits are different but PRAISED IN NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE, please let me know as I may have missed it.

 

But this is what GOD’S WILL FOR HOW A CHRISTIAN WOMAN should be and it’s FULL OF THE CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE PRAISE WITH THEIR OWN MONEY & POSSESSIONS (“not” by using money collected in the Name of God or Church money only & self hoarding with prosperity enjoying vanity lifestyle) in them as this is contrasted not BY ME (nOR ANY MEN) BUT HOLY SCRIPTURE PRAISES THIS CHARITY DOCTRINE TRAIT in them MORE THAN ANY OTHER RELIGIOUS ACTION (“Common Ground”).

 

I hope our modern Christian women who emulate it are likewise Praised and Respected in their respective families and Churches. Nevertheless God Will One Day as God’s Word Doesn’t Lie.

 

 

 

 

Please don’t be flattered by earthly promotions as a lot of it are fake and done with other people’s money and just ran by people who benefit financially even within Christianity as “blessings” which may be like a “kancil of faith” (many) but are nowhere in comparison to these Blessed First Christianity Women (The true “Ferrari’s of faith”) who didn’t go for leadership but servanthood and outdid them all in relative measure by LOVE IN ACTION especially VIA GIVING as IT IS WRITTEN.

 

Our hearts can have bias (so it is “not” to be trusted as it will seek to Praise our own mother, wife, sister or those of the same race/same church, friend etc.) and so I don’t want to quote any of them but ONLY THOSE WHOM NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE HAS PRAISED as we see here so that the Praise is True and Pure and based upon the Most Blessed Word of God, Verses:

 

“… [And He said to them] , “You are THOSE WHO JUSTIFY YOURSELVES before men, but GOD KNOWS YOUR HEARTS. For WHAT IS HIGHLY ESTEEMED AMONG MEN IS AN ABOMINATION IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. …”  – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:15, NKJV)

 

“… 32“But IF YOU LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:32, NKJV)

 

“… WHAT DO YOU DO MORE THAN OTHERS? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:47, NKJV)

 

“… 33And IF YOU DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO DO GOOD TO YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU?  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:33, NKJV)

 

One Day, God Will Reveal every heart and all will be clear.

 

Likewise, We Praise the Women whom Holy Scripture Praises mentioning their Traits which the BIBLE PRAISES!

 

 

Peace to you

 

How Serious could the Sin of Ignoring God’s New Testament Commands be?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161511729612784

 

As these Verses (in image too Warns): even the only thing we Christians sometimes focus on which is “WORSHIP” becomes “VAIN” (i.e. has “NO VALUE” or though it is “heard by many Christians” but yet GOD NEVER HEARD IT NOR ACCEPTS IT AT ALL), Verses:

 

“… Thus you have made the [b]COMMANDMENT OF GOD OF NO EFFECT BY YOUR TRADITION. 7HYPOCRITES! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: 8‘These people [c]DRAW NEAR TO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH, And HONOR ME WITH THEIR LIPS, But THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. 9And IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.’ ” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 15:6 – 9, NKJV)

 

Context: Christ was “not” correcting the Pharisees’ ESCHATOLOGY or some FINE HIDDEN WISDOM IN THE WORD OF GOD when He Spoke the above but rather was referring to the “Corban” practice (Matthew 15:3 – 5) which means that it is HIS WRITTEN COMMANDS which ARE IGNORED for the SAKE OF MAN MADE TRADITIONS that Puts forth the JUDGMENT IN HIS WORDS AS —> “They WORSHIP ME IN VAIN”.

 

In short, the Safe Route Scripturally is that “if we want OUR WORSHIP TO BE HEARD BY GOD”, we must TEACH AND DO HIS NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS. Which ones? Please allow me to repeat:

 

Yes, ‘Saved by Grace must promote His Commands’ which is a True Faith in Christ. To “avoid LAWLESSNESS”, The “LAW” part Christ Refers to is “not the abolished Torah Observances as some Christian err” but ONLY THE THINGS WHICH CHRIST SAID (either those He Re-enforced from the TORAH or NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS such as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of GIVING and SHARING which is the ‘most number of Commands by Christ Himself in the New Testament’ even in this Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 to Matthew 7)

 

 

The “House on the Rock of Christ” is only built when it is built upon “His Commands” and NOT on man made traditions:

 

“… 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:24, NKJV)

 

“… making the WORD OF GOD OF NO EFFECT THROUGH YOUR TRADITION which you have handed down. And MANY SUCH THINGS YOU DO.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 7:13, NKJV)

 

Safe Route Scripturally approach: If someone says something which is “not” a Bible Verse, we shouldn’t be alarmed by it. However if someone Points to a New Testament Verse, we should consider obeying it seriously as that’s the Way which has been endorsed by Scripture 100% and hence has “no” condemnation as God is “not” going to Ask, “Oh, you tried to follow and preach New Testament Verses instead of the modern ways ah?” Or equivalent.

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Lot’s Wife Syndrome Mystery

 

“… 32Remember Lot’s wife.  …” (Luke 17:32, NKJV)

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161513833027784

 

Problem: Please notice carefully that the only sin Lot’s wife did WAS PROSPERITY.

 

Background: Blessed Righteous Lot did “not” fit it with the People of Sodom who did “not” care about the poor and were busy in seeking and enjoying prosperity and other sins.

 

“… On account of his HOSPITALITY AND GODLINESS, LOT WAS SAVED out of Sodom when all the country around him was punished by means of FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, the Lord thus making it manifest that He does not forsake those who hope in Him, but gives up THOSE WHO DEPART FROM HIM TO PUNISHMENT AND TORTURE. For Lot’s wife, who went forth with him, being of a different mind from himself and not continuing in agreement with him [as to the command which had been given them], was made an example of, so as to be a pillar of salt to this day. This was done that all might know that those who are of a double mind, and who distrust the power of God, bring down judgment on themselves, and become a sign to all succeeding generations. …” ” – Blessed St. Clement of Rome, an Apostolic Father being a direct Disciple of the Blessed Apostle St. Peter (c.35 AD – c. 99 AD, 1 Clement, Chapter 11)

 

Source:  http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/1clement-roberts.html

 

“… Look, this was the iniquity of your sister SODOM: She and her daughter had PRIDE, FULLNESS OF FOOD, and ABUNDANCE OF IDLENESS; NEITHER did she strengthen the hand of the POOR and NEEDY. …” (Ezekiel 16:49, NKJV)

 

Righteous Lot was different especially since he practiced both “Hospitality and Godliness” which are the opposite of the “sins of Sodom” revealed in Ezekiel 16:49 above. The word “Sodom” and the context of “Hospitality” ties the quote up with this Verse.

 

“… 32REMEMBER LOT’S WIFE. 33WHOEVER SEEKS TO SAVE HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, AND WHOEVER LOSES HIS LIFE WILL PRESERVE IT.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 17:32 – 33, NKJV)

 

The Context of “…  32Remember Lot’s wife.   …” in Christ’s Exhortation itself points that the Context of “… seeks to save his life will lose it, …” refers to ‘Prosperity Gospel’ type of desires as ‘Lot’s Wife was “not” accused by Scripture to be doing any sin except that she loved a luxurious life and thus ‘turned back’ and looked at Sodom turning to a pillar of salt.

 

Please also notice carefully that though Lot practiced Hospitality with family income, the wife was “not” considered to be part of it as her heart still loved ‘Prosperity’ and was unsaved which is only Revealed on the Day it Rains Fire and Brimstone as none can fake their urge within anymore as ‘they will turn likewise’ as the First Christianity quote above agrees too. You cannot say you don’t love ‘prosperity’ or equivalent but want it all the time (self contradiction & self deception).

 

Source: Page 24 of the #EternalHellAnnihilationUniversalismBook

 

Yes, the meaning of “… 32REMEMBER LOT’S WIFE. 33WHOEVER SEEKS TO SAVE HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, AND WHOEVER LOSES HIS LIFE WILL PRESERVE IT.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 17:32 – 33, NKJV) …” in the Context of Remember Lot’s Wife is clearly “LOVING THE PROSPERITY LIFE IN THIS WORLD NOW” as another Verse in this Same Context (Wording) Describes it below clearly as it is Written (as part of the “Doctrine of Renunciation” in some way):

 

“… He who LOVES HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, and he who HATES HIS LIFE IN THIS WORLD WILL KEEP IT FOR ETERNAL LIFE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 12:25, NKJV)

 

Example: Lose one’s life for Fulfilling the Gospel Commands in some way (which takes away your time and especially money) such as the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Commands of Christ:

 

“… For whoever DESIRES TO SAVE HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, but whoever LOSES HIS LIFE FOR MY SAKE and THE GOSPEL’S WILL SAVE IT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 8:35, NKJV)

 

“Doctrine of Renunciation” in some way according to whether our renunciation level is Thirty-fold, Sixty-fold or Hundredfold accordingly, Verses:

 

“… So likewise, whoever of you DOES NOT FORSAKE ALL that he has CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLE …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 14:33, NKJV)

 

In the ‘other manuscript’, it’s even more clear that the context is “leaving possessions” (not gaining them as the error of the Prosperity Gospel Teaches):

 

“… So then, NONE OF YOU CAN BE MY DISCIPLE who does NOT GIVE UP ALL HIS OWN POSSESSIONS …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 14:33, NASB)

 

“… So is he who LAYS UP TREASURE FOR HIMSELF, and is NOT RICH TOWARD GOD.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:21, NKJV)

 

In the end “Mammon” will slay more than any other sin:

 

For example:  The Original Koine Greek Word “Aionion” translated as ‘Eternal here (same Word)’ in “EVERLASTING HOME” (Luke 16:9, NKJV) is used in “Eternal Punishment” vs “Everlasting  Life” in Matthew 25:46 as well. So the consequences of missing in this Doctrine are “Eternal”. Are we risking people’s life likewise by not teaching this “Charity Doctrine” by  Christ Himself?

 

In short, CHRIST DECLARES (“not” me) in that the FAITHFULNESS of a CHRISTIAN is “not” measured by ‘… how many hours he prays, fasts, attends church, worships etc. …’ (if someone says so, please ask them FOR A BIBLE VERSE where CHRIST SAYS it DIRECTLY and you will find “none”) in comparison to as much as one LIVES and DOES this CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as Christ Clearly Asks in Verse in image via a simpler English Translation as follows

 

“… . 11And IF YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY ABOUT WORLDLY WEALTH, who will trust you with the TRUE  RICHES OF HEAVEN? …” (Luke 16:11, NLT) where the JUDGMENT for this is ONLY BASED on “… 9Here’s the lesson: USE YOUR WORLDLY RESOURCES to BENEFIT OTHERS AND MAKE FRIENDS. Then, when your possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an ETERNAL HOME. 10“If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. …” (Luke 16:9 – 10, NLT) by CHRIST HIMSELF.

Please don’t be deceived and please be very careful of “expensive Bible courses to Bible books to hoarding God’s Money as blessings or equivalent as these Verses Contradict all that”.

 

“…  FREELY YOU HAVE RECEIVED, FREELY GIVE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 10:8, NKJV)

 

John Wesley himself (quote in image) taught this Context likewise and Prophesied of an end time Christianity which may sink to Hell due to “Prosperity” Doctrine as follows, to quote from the #parableofthewiseandfoolishvirginsbook on Page 15:

 

“… How then is it possible that Methodism, that is, the religion of the heart, though it flourishes now as a green bay tree, should continue in this state? For the Methodists in every place grow diligent and frugal; consequently they increase in goods. Hence, they proportionably increase in pride, in the desire of the flesh, the desire of the eyes, and the pride of life. So, although the form of religion remains, the spirit is swiftly vanishing away (2 Timothy 3:5). Is there no way to prevent this? this continual declension of pure religion? We ought not to forbid people to be diligent and frugal; we must exhort all Christians, to gain all they can, and to save all they can: this is, in effect, to grow rich! What way then, I ask again, can we take that our money may not sink us to the nethermost hell? There is one way, and there is no other under heaven. If those who gain all they can, and save all they can, will likewise give all they can, then the more they gain, the more they will grow in grace, and the more treasure they will lay up in heaven,”. …”  – Blessed John Wesley, Founder of Methodism

 

Source: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevin-deyoung/the-pastor-and-the-community-mark-dever/

 

Emphasis: Please notice how Blessed John Wesley’s Prophecy above regarding those who “Deny God’s Power” but have a “Form of Godliness” within Christianity refers not to denying some Pentecostal gifts but rather that it refers to the LACK of the CHARITY DOCTRINE of GIVING MONEY without which he says they may SINK INTO THE NETHERMOST HELL (Luke 12:31 – 35 is referred to indirectly by John Wesley because Christ Spoke of “Give to Charity” & get “Treasure in Heavens” which are the phrases John Wesley is using here):

 

“… having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! …” (2 Timothy 3:5, NKJV)

 

“… So, although the FORM OF RELIGION REMAINS, THE SPIRIT IS SWIFTLY VANISHING AWAY (2 Timothy 3:5). Is there no way to prevent this? this continual declension of pure in effect, to grow rich! What way then, I ask again, can we take that OUR MONEY may NOT SINK US to the NETHERMOST HELL? There is one way, and there is no other under heaven. If those who gain all they can, and save all they can, will likewise GIVE ALL THEY CAN, then the more they gain, the more they will GROW IN GRACE  …”  – Blessed John Wesley, Founder of Methodism

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

Duty of Man = Keep His Commandments because God Being Perfect Will Judge

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161511693712784

 

Which ones?

 

 

Yes, ‘Saved by Grace must promote His Commands’ which is a True Faith in Christ. To “avoid LAWLESSNESS”, The “LAW” part Christ Refers to is “not the abolished Torah Observances as some Christian err” but ONLY THE THINGS WHICH CHRIST SAID (either those He Re-enforced from the TORAH or NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS such as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of GIVING and SHARING which is the ‘most number of Commands by Christ Himself in the New Testament’ even in this Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 to Matthew 7).

 

 

 

“… For I say unto you, That except YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS [1343 dikaiosynē] shall EXCEED the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in NO CASE ENTER into the kingdom of HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:20, KJV)

 

I have discussed Matthew 5:20 in detail in Pages 30 to 40 in the free pdf #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook

 

The “House on the Rock of Christ” is only built when it is built upon “His Commands” and NOT on man made traditions:

 

“… 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:24, NKJV)

 

“… making the WORD OF GOD OF NO EFFECT THROUGH YOUR TRADITION which you have handed down. And MANY SUCH THINGS YOU DO.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 7:13, NKJV)

 

Safe Route Scripturally approach: If someone says something which is “not” a Bible Verse, we shouldn’t be alarmed by it. However if someone Points to a New Testament Verse, we should consider obeying it seriously as that’s the Way which has been endorsed by Scripture 100% and hence has “no” condemnation as God is “not” going to Ask, “Oh, you tried to follow and preach New Testament Verses instead of the modern ways ah?” Or equivalent.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Our Sins are much more by Relative Measure based on all the Good that we can do but we chose NOT TO DO

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161511490827784

 

In particular that’s why it is “hard” for a “Rich Man” to “Enter Heaven” and “easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle” as Christ Taught in Matthew 19:21 – 24 because the “amount of good one is able to do” increases by Relative Measure based on “riches” given in general and hence “not” doing Good with it such as the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle increases much sin.

 

This was discussed in detail in the #IgnoredChristianDoctrineBook as per example quote below:

 

Sin of Omission of the Charity Doctrine Mystery

 

0) Background

 

We often hear some preachers say (rightly so) that ‘… If one does NOT preach AGAINST SIN, he is a FALSE TEACHER! …’.

 

I agree 100%.

 

However, in light of the “Charity Doctrine” (as I shall discuss with Bible Verses next), has this ‘same preacher’ Preached it too because NOT DOING GOOD in YOUR POWER (i.e. the ‘Charity Doctrine’ is SIN too!

 

Really? Yes, Verse:

 

“… Therefore to him that KNOWETH to DO GOOD, and DOETH IT NOT, TO HIM IT IS SIN. …” (James 4:17, KJV)

 

More details in link below:

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161501918347784/

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

Protestant Dilemma – Misunderstanding Sola Fide vs Faith with Works and Possible Consequences

 

1) The Problem – Why is this important?

 

1. i) A wrong theology on works may warrant a smaller reward in heaven. Verse:

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

1. ii) Some type of wrong theology on works can even merit Hell if promoting a type of “saved by grace only” which promotes “lawlessness” despite active Church Attendance with spiritual works of ‘… casting out demons, prophesying, and even miracles in HIS NAME …’, He Will Say, ‘… I NEVER KNEW YOU …’. Verses:

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

Comment: ‘Saved by Grace must promote His Commands’ which is a True Faith in Christ. To “avoid LAWLESSNESS”, The “LAW” part Christ Refers to is “not the abolished Torah Observances as some Christian err” but ONLY THE THINGS WHICH CHRIST SAID (either those He Re-enforced from the TORAH or NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS such as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of GIVING and SHARING which is the ‘most number of Commands by Christ Himself in the New Testament’ even in this Sermon on the Mount in Matthew 5 to Matthew 7).

 

“… For I say unto you, That except YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS [1343 dikaiosynē] shall EXCEED the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in NO CASE ENTER into the kingdom of HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:20, KJV)

I have discussed Matthew 5:20 in detail in Pages 30 to 40 in the free pdf #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook

 

Can you see it please ‘as it is Written’?

 

2)  Sola Fide in light of “Holiness Doctrine”

 

“… 110As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. 22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:…” (Romans 3:10 – 11, 22 – 24, NKJV)

 

These Verses prove that ONLY CHRIST’S RIGHTEOUSNESS SAVES us but it does “not” prove that  we “don’t need to be holy” nor that “we don’t need to do the Charity Doctrine or other Good Works for faith”.

 

Also by quoting the Verse above, do your pastors stop being holy since “HOLINESS is ALSO A WORK OF THE LAW”?  If “not”, then why stop doing the Charity Doctrine with Church Money or Personal Money as CHRIST’S ANSWER  DID NOT END WITH HOLINESS COMMANDS ONLY and so NEITHER SHOULD ANY TRUE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL END THERE either as Described in Verses below ‘as it is Written’:

 

1. i) Holiness is a “Work of the Law” , Verses:

 

“… 16Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, WHAT GOOD THING SHALL I DO that I MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE?” 17So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But IF YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.” 18He said to Him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ” 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. WHAT DO I STILL LACK?” …” (Matthew 19:16 – 20, NKJV)

 

1. ii) Charity Doctrine is a Doctrine of Perfection (as Christ Continues from the Verses above as follows, same Topic, same Context):

 

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. WHAT DO I STILL LACK?” 21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS. 23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, NKJV)

 

Also, contrary to popular belief in Christianity itself, the DOCTRINES which pertain to ‘… i. FOUNDATION of REPENTANCE FROM DEAD WORKS  and OF FAITH TOWARD GOD, ii. 2of the DOCTRINE OF BAPTISMS, iii. of LAYING OF HANDS,  iv. of RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, and  v. of ETERNAL JUDGMENT …’ are BASIC DOCTRINES as I have discussed in the first chapter in this #IgnoredChristianDoctrineBook itself or in link below which also points to the CHARITY DOCTRINE as a DOCTRINE of PERFECTION in Verses below clearly:

 

“… 1Therefore, LEAVING THE DISCUSSION OF THE ELEMENTARY PRINCIPLES OF CHRIST, let us GO ON TO [a]PERFECTION, NOT laying again the FOUNDATION of REPENTANCE FROM DEAD WORKS  and OF FAITH TOWARD GOD, 2of the DOCTRINE OF BAPTISMS, of LAYING OF HANDS, of RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, and of ETERNAL JUDGMENT. 3And THIS [b]we will do IF GOD PERMITS. … 9But, beloved, we are confident of BETTER THINGS  CONCERNING YOU, YES, THINGS THAT ACCOMPANY SALVATION, though we speak in this manner. 10For God is not unjust to forget YOUR WORK and [d]LABOR OF LOVE which you have shown toward His name, IN THAT YOU HAVE MNISTERED TO THE SAINTS, and DO MINISTER. 11And WE DESIRE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU SHOW THE SAME DILLIGENCE TO THE FULL ASSURANCE OF HOPE UNTIL THE END, 12that you do not become [e]sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience INHERIT the promises. …” (Hebrews 6:1 – 3, 9 – 12, NKJV)

 

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3) Gold Type of Faith are either based on Voluntary Suffering or Voluntary Charity Doctrine Lifestyle

 

1. i) Gold Type of Faith based on Voluntary Suffering for the Gospel

 

“… 9“I know your works, TRIBULATION, and POVERTY  (but YOU ARE RICH); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a [e]synagogue of Satan.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 2:9, NKJV)

 

Note: This Church in Verse above suffered TRIBULATION (Persecution for faith) and POVERTY (being poor in material wealth or money literally) but are said to be RICH (in HEAVEN’s Rewards Perspective).

 

1. ii) Gold Type of Faith based on Voluntary Charity Doctrine Lifestyle

 

Spiritually Poor Church = Prosperity Church with health and wealth but “no” Works of Sharing & Giving:

 

“… 15“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because YOU ARE LUKEWARM, and neither [k]cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I AM RICH, HAVE BECOME WEALTHY, and HAVE NEED OF NOTHING’—and do not know that YOU ARE WRETCHED, MISERABLE, POOR, BLIND, AND NAKED— 18I counsel you to BUY FROM ME GOLD REFINED IN THE FIRE, that YOU MAY BE RICH; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:15 – 18, NKJV)

 

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. WHAT DO I STILL LACK?” 21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS. 23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, NKJV)

 

4) Faith with Works Doctrine and its effect on Eternal Rewards

 

“…  11For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if anyone builds on this foundation with GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES, wood, hay, straw, 13each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.  …” (1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15, NKJV)

 

Some may be “Saved by Fire” only incurring the “Loss of Reward” while “not” all get the “Gold” or “Silver” level Reward either meaning that “not” all inheritance of the Kingdom of Heaven is same for Christians either and so, please don’t be deceived by Teachings which claim ‘you get every treasure in heaven by doing nothing’ or by doing less’. This “Saved by Fire” case can include some of those whom are included in John 3:16’s “whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life” and so it’s “not” as honourable as the Salvation of other Christians who adorn their Faith with Works accordingly to HONOUR GOD in ACTION as the next point discusses in detail.

 

 

 

4) Add to your Faith

 

“… According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the KNOWLEDGE OF HIM  that hath CALLED US TO GLORY AND VIRTUE: (4) Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. (5) And beside this, giving all diligence, ADD TO YOUR FAITH VIRTUE; and TO VIRTUE KNOWLEDGE; (6) And TO KNOWLEDGE TEMPERANCE; and TO TEMPERANCE PATIENCE; and TO PATIENCE GODLINESS; (7) And TO GODLINESS BROTHERLY KINDNESS; and TO BROTHERLY KINDNESS CHARITY [Love]. 8For IF THESE THINGS ARE YOURS AND ABOUND, you will BE NEITHER [e]BARREN NOR UNFRUITFUL in the KNOWLEDGE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST . 9For HE WHO LACKS THESE THINGS IS SHORT SIGHTED, EVEN TO BLINDNESS, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. 10Therefore, brethren, BE EVEN MORE DILLGENT TO MAKE YOUR CALLING AND ELECTION SURE, FOR IF YOU DO THESE THINGS YOU WILL NEVER STUMBLE; 11FOR SO AN ENTRANCE WILL BE SUPPLIED TO YOU ABUNDANTLY into the EVERLASTING KINGDOM of OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST …” (2 Peter 1:3-11, KJV )

 

Comments:

 

1. Purpose of Life for those Predestined to Believe is includes the PRACTICE of VIRTUE

 

“… through the KNOWLEDGE OF HIM  that hath CALLED US TO GLORY AND VIRTUE …” (2 Peter 1:3, KJV)

 

1. Adding these things to Faith (e.g. the CHARITY DOCTRINE which is both BROTHERLY KINDNESS & CHARITY/LOVE in ACTION with these world’s goods, e.g. 1 John 3:16 – 18) does “not” shipwreck anyone’s faith nor does it create ‘self righteousness’ but even makes the calling and election even more sure

 

“… 10Therefore, brethren, BE EVEN MORE DILLGENT TO MAKE YOUR CALLING AND ELECTION SURE, FOR IF YOU DO THESE THINGS YOU WILL NEVER STUMBLE;  …”

 

iii. Did you notice that “KNOWLEDGE of the LORD” is ‘not’ referred to as knowing some ‘fancy prophecy’ or ‘some deep theology’ but rather as these HOLINESS +  GOOD WORKS in ACTION TRAITS

 

“… ADD TO YOUR FAITH VIRTUE; and TO VIRTUE KNOWLEDGE; (6) And TO KNOWLEDGE TEMPERANCE; and TO TEMPERANCE PATIENCE; and TO PATIENCE GODLINESS; (7) And TO GODLINESS BROTHERLY KINDNESS; and TO BROTHERLY KINDNESS CHARITY [Love]. 8For IF THESE THINGS ARE YOURS AND ABOUND, you will BE NEITHER [e]BARREN NOR UNFRUITFUL in the KNOWLEDGE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST . …” (2 Peter 1:5 – 8, KJV)

 

Note: In this same letter, even ‘Blessed Apostle St. Peter’ himself admits that some ‘deeper theological knowledge’ is HARD TO UNDERSTAND (referring to Blessed Apostle St. Paul’s letters meaning that even if we as Christians didn’t know these aspects correctly or didn’t understand it perfectly, so just leave it or be neutral about it but DON’T TWIST IT) as it’s NOT A SIGN of REJECTION from life as only the ABOVE THINGS are ENOUGH for ONE’s FAITH + WORKS to be FRUITFUL in the KNOWLEDGE of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST unto SALVATION, Verses:

 

“… as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in WHICH ARE SOME THINGS HARD TO UNDERSTAND, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures. …” (2 Peter 3:16, NKJV)

 

1. Not knowing any of the things above which are NEEDED to be ADDED to ONE’S FAITH is DANGEROUS because the VERSES here doesn’t say THESE ASPECTS may be SKIPPED for DOCTRINE but rather IT IS A MUST for EVERY TRUE CHRISTIAN or CHURCH without which they are called SPIRITUALLY BLIND:

 

“… 9For HE WHO LACKS THESE THINGS IS SHORT SIGHTED, EVEN TO BLINDNESS, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. …” (2 Peter 1:9, KJV)

 

Note: So a Christian/Church who only Teaches “Faith” and possibly “Godliness” (holiness only) but “no” mention of these other things which are to be ADDED to FAITH as DOCTRINE which includes the  CHARITY DOCTRINE which is both BROTHERLY KINDNESS & CHARITY/LOVE in ACTION with these world’s goods, (e.g. 1 John 3:16 – 18) may actually NOT be helping you STAND in FAITH but may actually be SHORT SIGHTED or SPIRITUALLY BLIND as these VERSES WARN clearly.

 

1. There is NO CONDEMNATION to any Christian who PREACHES any of THESE WRITTEN ASPECTS from VIRTUE to BROTHERLY KINDNESS & CHARITY (LOVE, e.g. the CHARITY DOCTRINE) and best is such ones are called to GREATER GLORY in ABUNDANCE when THEY ENTER HIS EVERLASTING KINGDOM, Verses:

 

“… 11FOR SO AN ENTRANCE WILL BE SUPPLIED TO YOU ABUNDANTLY into the EVERLASTING KINGDOM of OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST …” (2 Peter 1:11, KJV)

 

Note: So please start Preaching the Charity Doctrine and the other aspects listed here if one really cares for their CHRISTIAN BRETHREN and CHURCH or FAMILY too so that together, by GOD’S GRACE all may ENTER ABUNDANTLY into HIS “EVERLASTING” KINGDOM through these ADDITIONS to FAITH.

 

 

 

 

In short, the Greatest Heavenly Rewards (ABUNDANCE ENTRANCE as stated here, the ‘Real Abundant Life Context meant in John 10:10 too’) is “not” for those who hold to “Faith Alone only” but rather to those who “ADD TO YOUR FAITH THESE THINGS (listed in Verse above) too”.

 

1. Some early Manuscripts 2 Peter 1 here also add the PHRASE GOOD WORKS as I have discussed in an earlier chapter or in link below too

 

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Anyway interestingly, this First Protestant Champion of Faith regarding Bible Translation, Blessed John Wycliffe himself translated 2 Peter 1:10 to include this “… BY YOUR GOOD WORKS …” in 2 Peter 1:10 few hundred years before the KJV translation itself, to quote:

 

“… 10 Wherefore, brethren, be ye more busy [more busy ye], that BY GOOD WORKS YE MAKE YOUR CALLING and CHOOSING CERTAIN; for ye doing these things shall not do sin any time [soothly ye doing these things, shall not sin any time]. 11 For thus the entering into [the] everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, shall be ministered to you plenteously. …” – Blessed John Wycliffe’s Translation of 2 Peter 1:10 – 11, where John Wycliffe is Nicknamed the “Morning Star of the Reformation”, (2 Peter 1:10 – 11, Wycliffe Bible in modern English)

 

Note: If Blessed John Wycliffe can even translate ‘his Bible’ as above and Preach it to be “saved”, so can we. Can you see it? Please also note that the points discussed above are true regardless if this phrase exists or not in the Original as even other Bible Verses Testify here but it’s just interesting to know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion

 

Some Protestants think that if they ‘Preach Faith only + Holiness’, their doctrine is complete but this is far from the Truth as these Verses demonstrate and in fact, without Preaching these ADDITIONS to THE FAITH (His Commands of Good Works from VIRTUE to GODLINESS to BROTHERLY KINDNESS to LOVE), either the reward is going to be “small” or “spiritual blindness” has been implied clearly (in 2 Peter 1:3 – 11 earlier). So, please don’t be deceived.

 

Also, please don’t forget relative measure as the Poor Widow with 2 coins outdid the giving of others which may “not” even have fed any or fed few in comparison to the rich’s giving “out of their abundance” (Luke 21:1 – 4) which in Principle of Judgment (e.g. Luke 12:46 – 48’s “more is given more is required”) also echoes this same Truth where if you have a bigger audience to reach within your Christian Church/Denomination but you fail to Preach these Greater Rewards for your congregation to attain, do you think ‘your reward is going to be great’?

 

I don’t think so as Christians who don’t share ‘spiritual knowledge’ which can ‘increase another’s heavenly rewards’ may likewise by relative measure ‘attain to little only likewise’ by Fair Judgment and Vice Versa. Here are some key example DOCTRINES which Point to GREATER HEAVENLY REWARDS for those who Practice it:

 

[Example of Commands which are NOT MANDATORY but OPTIONAL which can refer to the “GOOD” which are “not Commands (Mandatory)” but done “WILLINGLY“]:

 

1. i) Voluntary Poverty for the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?”21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, FOLLOW ME.” …” (Matthew 19:20 – 21, NKJV)

 

 

1. ii) The Eunuch type of Faith

“… For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves EUNUCHS FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN’S SAKE. He who is ABLE TO ACCEPT IT, LET HIM ACCEPT IT.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:12, NKJV)

“… 7For I WISH THAT ALL MEN WERE EVEN as I MYSELF. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. 8But I say to the UNMARRIED AND TO THE WIDOWS: IT IS GOOD FOR THEM IF THEY REMAIN EVEN AS I AM; 9but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. … 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have TROUBLE IN THE FLESH, but I WOULD SPARE YOU. … 32But I want you to be without care. He who is UNMARRIED CARES FOR THE THINGS OF THE LORD—how he may PLEASE THE LORD. 33But HE WHO IS MARRIED CARES about the THINGS OF THE WORLD—how he may PLEASE HIS WIFE. … 38So then he who GIVES HER IN MARRIAGE DOES WELL, but he WHO DOES NOT GIVE HER IN MARRIAGE DOES BETTER. …” (1 Corinthians 7:7 – 9, 28, 32 – 33, 38, NKJV)

 

 

“… TO THE EUNUCHS who keep my sabbaths,

And CHOOSE WHAT PLEASES ME,

And hold fast My covenant,

5Even to them I WILL GIVE IN MY HOUSE

And WITHIN MY WALLS A PLACE AND A NAME

BETTER THAN THAT OF SONS AND DAUGHTERS;

I will give [a]them AN EVERLASTING NAME

That SHALL NOT BE CUT OFF. …” (Isaiah 56:4 – 5, NKJV)

 

This was discussed in detail in Pages 579 to 586 in the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook

 

Note: Nothing wrong in “SEEKING for GLORY and IMMORTALITY and HONOUR” except that don’t seek it from men on earth but on “Judgment Day” from God and thus keep away from man-made doctrines which run down the encouragement to “not” bother about these non-mandatory commands/willing commands as listed above as ‘the loss of it would be eternal’ (so may God Help us to be Wise) in doing what we can BY HIS GRACE ONLY:

 

“… ETERNAL LIFE to those who by PATIENT CONTINUANCE IN DOING GOOD SEEK FOR GLORY, HONOR and IMMORTALITY; …” (Romans 2:7, NKJV)

 

 

As long as we remember that any Good Act we could do is by “God” Working it through us, there will be “no” self-righteousness (as self-righteousness is assuming that we are doing the Good Works instead of admitting that GOD IS THE ONE DOING IT THORUGH US, the “Jesus in You” Principle) as Revealed in example Verse below:

 

“… for it is GOD WHO WORKS IN YOU BOTH TO WILL AND TO DO for His good pleasure. …” (Philippians 2:13, NKJV)

 

In light of all these Bible Verses, “DOING Faith Alone type of Doctrine with Godliness (holiness) only” and TEACHING that doesn’t make one that great s compared to if one DOES AND TEACHES MORE of CHRIST’S COMMANDS and DOCTRINES on EACH OF THESE ASPECTS too “…  ADD TO YOUR FAITH VIRTUE; and TO VIRTUE KNOWLEDGE; (6) And TO KNOWLEDGE TEMPERANCE; and TO TEMPERANCE PATIENCE; and TO PATIENCE GODLINESS; (7) And TO GODLINESS BROTHERLY KINDNESS; and TO BROTHERLY KINDNESS CHARITY Love].  …” (2 Peter 1:5 – 7, KJV).

 

What you DO AND TEACH (“not” do only) will AFFECT the GREATNESS of one in HIS KINGDOM (Reward-Level, implied) because he LOGIC is simple: THE LIFE of VIRTUE and GOOD WORKS which ONE LIVES IN FAITH for CHRIST shows HOW MUCH we APPRECIATE and HONOUR GOD BACK IN RETURN, Verses:

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of THESE COMMANDMENTS, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; but whoever DOES AND TEACHES THEM, he shall be called GREAT in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 20For I say to you, that unless YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS EXCEEDS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by NO MEANS ENTER THE KINGDOM of HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19 – 21, NKJV)

 

This part of DOCTRINE fulfills the GREAT COMMISSION’s  “… 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU …” as based on this the REWARD-LEVEL may be Determined by God:

 

“… 18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. …” (Matthew 28:18 – 20, NKJV)

 

There are three types of Reward Level in the Heavens for Christians namely, the “THIRTYFOLD vs SIXTYFOLD vs HUNDREFOLD“, Verse:

 

“… But others fell on GOOD GROUND and yielded a crop: some a HUNDREDFOLD, SOME SIXTY, SOME THIRTY. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 13:8, NKJV)

 

The only Verse which Describes the HUNDREFOLD Harvest of the Gospel (Matthew 13:8) Point to an ACTION of VOLUNTARY POVERTY or LEAVING SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT for the GOSPEL WORK in some Way such as “… leaving WIFE …” (can include the Context of being Unmarried for the Gospel Work) or “… leaving Family (father, mother, brother) …” (to Preach the Gospel or reach out to others or be rejected at home due to your faith) or “… leaving LANDS and HOUSES …” (i.e. literal Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as other New Testament Verses describe this Giving/Sharing, e.g. Acts 2:44 – 46, Acts 4:32) in some Way, Verses:

 

“… 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:27 – 30, NKJV)

 

Note: This “HUNDREDFOLD Reward” is “not” given now in this life as some Prosperity Gospel Preaches err (claiming that they are fulfilling this Verse) but rather this Reward is clearly Pointed by CHRIST HIMSELF to refer to the REGENERATION as it is GIVEN TOGETHER WITH ETERNAL LIFE TOO (First Resurrection Timeline, Revelation 20:4 – 6) in Verses above refuting this common fallacy.

 

Here’s a Mystery: Contrary to the popular misunderstanding that the term “… 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” means all Christians get equal rewards (be it thirtyfold, sixtyfold or hundredfold contradicting even the Gold, Silver vs Precious Stones analogy of reward in 1 Corinthians 3:12 too), the True Meaning is Revealed here by CHRIST HIMSELF that the FIRST refers to the HUNDREDFOLD TYPE OF REWARD and it is to be OBTAINED by the WORKS of RENUNCIATION mentioned here ‘as it is Written’.

 

Also, the phrase “….  shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. …” points to two things namely:

 

1. “… INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. …” = The “Faith Alone part” (Salvation)

 

2. “… shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD …” = The “Works” part (Reward)

 

It is “not” mentioned that Prayer/ Fasting/ Church Attendance/ Worship / Number of Converts/ Church Size/ How  many people you baptized is going to give this HUNDREDFOLD REWARD but only these things are WRITTEN (if there are other ways, let God Decide One Day but one of these things is certain for a HUNDREFOLD REWARD) namely “… . 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD …” BY CHRIST HIMSELF DIRECTLY (so this is the HIGHEST WISDOM for HEAVENLY REWARDS DOCTRINE).

 

Note: The HUNDREDFOLD Reward is the Highest Reward in His Kingdom as these Verses and First Christianity Quotes have Taught and I have quoted in my free pdf books which you can download from links available on my Facebook Wall or Website if keen.

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Question

 

Copied from a friend:

 

“How does the thief on the cross fit into your theology? No baptism, no communion, no confirmation, no speaking in tongues, no mission trip, no volunteerism, and no church clothes. He couldn’t even bend his knees to pray. He didn’t say the sinner’s prayer and among other things, he was a thief. Jesus didn’t take away his pain, heal his body, or smite the scoffers. Yet it was a thief who walked into heaven the same hour as Jesus simply by believing. He had nothing more to offer other than his belief that Jesus was who he said he was. No spin from brilliant theologians. No ego or arrogance. No Shiny lights, skinny jeans, or crafty words. No haze machine, donuts, or coffee in the entrance. Just a naked dying man on a cross unable to even fold his hands to pray.”

 

For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son so that whosoever believed in him would not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

 

I read this today and was reminded of the simplicity of the Gospel.

 

Reply

 

Relative Measure

 

Those who “believed, prophesied, cast out demons and did miracles” are Denied in Matthew 7:20 – 24 for “Lawlessness”.

 

The thief on the cross couldn’t do anything more so that’s relative measure. Please don’t be deceived otherwise as “more is given, more is required” (please see Luke 12:46 – 48 too)

 

“…  47And THAT SERVANT WHO KNEW HIS MASTER’S WILL [fallen Christian], and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. 48But HE WHO DID NOT KNOW, yet COMMITTED THINGS DESERVING OF STRIPES, shall be BEATEN WITH FEW. For EVERYONE TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, FROM HIM MUCH WILL BE REQUIRED; and to whom much has been committed, of him THEY WILL ASK THE MORE…” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:47 – 48, NKJV)

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

Love Your Enemies – Does it include “Giving” to them?

 

Question

 

We cannot simply love our enemies by giving worldly goods to them as that would be betraying God and helping Satan build his kingdom.

 

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Strangely, Christ Taught the “opposite” to what you said in Verses below when He Taught “… Love your enemies …” as it points to “… those who don’t love you back …”, “… those who hate you …”, “… those who spitefully use you …” and the “… evil person …” in the “Context” of “… GIVING” as these Consecutive Verses in Full implies clearly ‘as it is Written’:

 

“…38“YOU HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS SAID, ‘An EYE FOR AN EYE and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39But I TELL YOU NOT TO RESIST AN EVIL PERSON. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40If anyone wants to sue you and TAKE AWAY YOUR TUNIC, LET HIM HAVE YOUR CLOAK ALSO. 41And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42GIVE to him who asks you, and from him WHO WANTS TO BORROW from you DO NOT TURN AWAY. 43“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and HATE YOUR ENEMY.’ 44[o]But I SAY TO YOU, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, bless those who curse you, DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO HATE YOU, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45that YOU MAY BE SONS OF YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For IF YOU LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE YOU, WHAT REWARD HAVE YOU? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet your [p]brethren only, WHAT DO YOU DO MORE THAN OTHERS? Do not even the [q]tax collectors do so? 48Therefore YOU SHALL BE PERFECT, JUST AS YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN IS PERFECT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:38 – 48, NKJV)

 

So if we as Christians or if our Church does “not” benefit our enemies literally in this type of GIVING (which is the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’), how are we to attained to the “Conditional Reward”  of “… , 45that YOU MAY BE SONS OF YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN;  …”? Please notice that CHRIST HIMSELF Puts this CONDITION to ‘exceed the righteousness of the pharisees as per Matthew 5:19 – 20 to “ENTER HEAVEN” to ‘inherit it’ (where these ‘Pharisees’ in comparison only loved those of the ‘same synagogue/church/denomination’ in analogy’ and never spent their money helping anyone else ‘who didn’t love them’ and definitely “not” their enemies). Can you see it “as it is Written” please?

 

 

This aspect I have discussed for example on Pages 262 – 262 or 292 to 295 or 483 to 493 or even 512 to 514 in the free pdf “Charity Doctrine Book” in link below:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QUjb1K0SLoxJ6E3Zo5oWY0_RH8FCPloP/view?usp=sharing

 

“… 29But Peter and the other apostles answered and said: “We ought to obey God rather than men.  …” (Acts 5:29, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

 

“… 32“But IF YOU LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:32, NKJV)

 

“… WHAT DO YOU DO MORE THAN OTHERS? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:47, NKJV)

 

“… 33And IF YOU DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO DO GOOD TO YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU?  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:33, NKJV)

 

Note: If we are “not” interested in the ” Heavenly Reward” for doing this “TANGIBLE GIVING of this WORLD’S GOODS toward ENEMIES even” which CHRIST HIMSELF calls as “GREAT” (Matthew 5:46 or Luke 6:35), then we cannot complain that we didn’t get it one day if we look down on God’s Direct Words, right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, this GIVING which CHRIST TAUGHT DIRECTLY also INVOLVES GIVING MONEY as well to THE ENEMIES (in the Context of ‘those unthankful and EVIL too’) as per the phrase “… and LEND …” in Verses below by CHRIST HIMSELF:

 

“… 34And if YOU LEND to those from whom you HOPE TO RECEIVE BACK, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. 35But LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, DO GOOD, AND LEND, [h]HOPING FOR NOTHING IN RETURN; and YOUR REWARD WILL BE GREAT, and YOU WILL BE SONS OF THE MOST HIGH. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. 36Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:27 – 36, NKJV)

 

Note: If God Himself calls this “Reward” for Doing so as “Great“, isn’t it most valuable? God doesn’t simply call anything as “Great” and this “Reward” is called likewise and conditional to “Loving our enemies”. May He Help us to attain to some of it.

 

No one can keep (obey) these HARDEST Commands unless the Holy Spirit Enables them:

 

“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

Loving those who love us (e.g. from the same Church or from whom we think if we give them, God will bless us etc.) is “easy” but to “Love those who hate us, use us and even are enemies of the cross and evil” by giving our “hard earned money” (and not in empty words) cannot be done without the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God.

 

This is what separates a Real Christian and a fake one as many scholars have noted too (for example this Catholic scholar, I’m “not” Roman Catholic but this quote is “Biblical” in light of these Verses):

 

“…The real test of the Christian is not how much he loves his friends, but how much he loves his enemies. …” – Archbishop Fulton J Sheen

 

 

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Hundredfold Mystery – Kingdom of Heaven’s Least vs Greatest Mystery – the Commands of Christ Summary

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161335175402784

 

Focus: Matthew 19:29 with First Christianity for the Definition of Heaven and Hundredfold Mystery with the Charity Doctrine and Unmarried Lifestyle.

 

An ‘easy Christianity does not lead to Heaven but only a Difficult one and only a FEW find it’

 

“… 13“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14[c]Because narrow is the gate and [d]DIFFICULT  is the way which leads to life, and there are FEW WHO FIND IT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

1) Why is this Important?

 

Among those who are Saved & Worthy to Enter Heaven, those who are ‘silent’ about it (i.e. do not teach others about it) or ‘who do it but don’t teach others’ will become LEAST and only those who ‘both do it and teach others become great’ in Heaven:

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

2) Few Saved to enter Heavens

 

Even among the  FEW SAVED Christians who ENTER HEAVEN, the reward level is not the same because if not Christ Wouldn’t have Declared thirty, sixty or hundredfold fruits and to ENTER HEAVEN, one needs to EXCEED the PHARISEES’ RIGHTEOUSNESS (not their hypocrisy or sin but the things they got right) which is ‘not ritualistic Torah Commands as some Christians err’ but ONLY the COMMANDS of CHRIST (in Matthew 5 to Matthew 7, this Sermon on the Mount) or elsewhere (through the apostles)

 

“…  20For I say to you, that unless YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS EXCEEDS the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by NO MEANS ENTER the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:20, NKJV)

 

“… But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. …” (Matthew 13:8, KJV)

 

Note: We cannot quote the Ritualistic Torah Commands which Christ did NOT quote in Matthew 5 to 7 but only the ones He Quoted for this New Testament.

 

3) Kingdom of Heaven Meaning

 

Kingdom of Heaven definition in First Christianity explains that the thirtyfold gets a dwelling in the New Jerusalem City (Lowest Heaven which connects to the New Earth as Revelation 21 describes), followed by the Paradise inheritance Level for the Sixty-fold and thereafter the “Heavens” Inheritance for the “Hundredfold”  (where these can surely VISIT each other across the three just like some saved ones only inherit the ‘new earth’ but may VISIT the lowest Heaven, the New Jerusalem City as Revelation 21:24 – 27 records clearly)

 

“… A fragment from the early 2nd century of one of the lost volumes of Papias, a Christian bishop, expounds that “heaven” was separated into three distinct layers. He referred to the first as just “heaven”, the second as “paradise”, and the third as “the city”. Papias taught that “there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce a hundredfold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold”. In the 2nd century AD, Irenaeus (a Greek bishop) wrote that not all who are saved would merit an abode in heaven itself. …”

 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_in_Christianity

 

“…. 24And the NATIONS [n]of THOSE WHO ARE SAVED shall walk in its light, and the KINGS OF THE EARTH bring their glory and honor [o]into it. 25Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there). 26And they shall bring the glory and the honor of the nations into [p]it. 27But there shall by no means enter it anything [q]that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. …” (Revelation 21: 24 – 27, NKJV)

 

Note: The fact that they’re saved to VISIT it only means they must “inherit the earth” but ‘not’ inherit the CITY (I could be wrong or this ‘possibility’ could be true). Please also note that this happens after Judgment Day (which is 1000 years after the Millennial Reign of Christ as some Christians assume this timeline instead) because it’s after the Lamb’s Book of Life Judgment is Revealed (Revelation 20:11 – 15) as Revelation 21:27 above mentions too. This aspect is discussed further in post in link below:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161332752927784

 

4) First Christianity

 

The Roman Catholics/Orthodox did NOT change these First Christianity Chiliasm quotes because they have denounced it officially too but preserved these quotes intact (do you know that the DIRECT DISCIPLES of the APOSTLES can ONLY be QUOTED to BELIEVE in this CHILIASM in the surviving writings? NO OTHER “eschatological” POSITION can be proven in them. If anyone claims otherwise, please ask them for the quote and source. The others quote ‘Church Fathers’ but NOT these direct disciples type of Church Fathers*)

 

“… As the presbyters say, then those who are deemed worthy of an abode in heaven shall go there, others shall enjoy the delights of Paradise, and others shall possess the splendour of the city; for everywhere the Saviour will be seen, according as they shall be worthy who see Him. But that there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce an hundredfold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold; for the first will be taken up into the heavens, the second class will dwell in Paradise, and the last will inhabit the city; and that on this account the Lord said, “In my Father’s house are many mansions:” …” – Blessed St. Papias, Bishop of Hierapolis, an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of the Blessed St. John the Apostle (c. 60 AD – c. 163 AD)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/papias.html

 

St. Irenaeous of Lyons clearly affirms that this Position is Taught by the ‘Prebysters’ whom he refers below as the DIRECT DISCIPLES of the APOSTLES ONLY:

 

“… And as the presbyters* say, Then those who are deemed worthy of an abode in heaven shall go there, others shall enjoy the delights of paradise, and others shall possess the splendour of the city; for everywhere the Saviour shall be seen according as they who see Him shall be worthy. [They say, moreover], that there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce an hundred-fold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold [Matthew 13:1 – 8, Matthew 13:18 – 23]: for the first will be taken up into the heavens, the second will dwell in paradise, the last will inhabit the city; and that was on this account the Lord declared, “In My Father’s house are many mansions.” For all things belong to God, who supplies all with a suitable dwelling-place; even as His Word says, that a share is allotted to all by the Father, according as each person is or shall be worthy. And this is the couch on which the guests shall recline, having been invited to the wedding. The presbyters, the disciples of the apostles, affirm that this is the gradation and arrangement of those who are saved, and that they advance through steps of this nature… For in the TIMES of the KINGDOM, the righteous man who is upon the earth shall then forget to die. … John, therefore, did distinctly foresee the FIRST “RESURRECTION of the JUST,” [Revelation 20:4 – 6, 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 18, Luke 14:14] and the inheritance in the kingdom of the earth; and what the prophets have prophesied concerning it harmonize [with his vision, e.g. Isaiah 65:20 – 23, Isaiah 11, Revelation 20:7 – 10]. For the Lord also taught these things, when He promised that He would have the mixed cup new with His disciples in the kingdom. …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, Book 5, Chapter Chapter XXXVI, Points 1 – 2, 3-partial)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html

 

Note: “presbyters” usage here St. Irenaeous refers to those who were direct disciples of the Apostles only as he writes in the above “…The presbyters, the disciples of the apostles, affirm that this is the gradation and arrangement of those who are saved …”.

 

My bet is on the “Millennialism” or “Chiliasm” Doctrine being True and I don’t condemn Christians who don’t believe in it because St. Justin Martyr reveals this ‘false understanding’  which existed but not from ‘his camp’ as follows:

 

“… I admitted to you formerly, that I and many others are of this opinion, and [believe] that such will take place, as you assuredly are aware; but, on the other hand, I signified to you that many who belong to the pure and pious faith, and are true Christians, think otherwise. …” – Blessed St. Justin Martyr (c. 100AD – c. 160 AD, Dialogue with Trypho the Jew, Chapter 110)

 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism

 

More of this aspect is discussed through the eyes of St. Irenaeous of Lyons in post in link below

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161308464357784

 

For Protestants (like me) these Church Fathers whom I have quoted here are also referenced and quoted by the First Original Protestant Fathers collectively (not individual  opinions) in their “Book of Concord” as truly being even Fathers for the Protestants (‘Lutherans’) as it is quoted with other Doctrinal aspects in link below:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161320954287784

 

5) Lawless Christianity

 

Christ Warned in this same Sermon on the Mount that MANY so called Christians in an ‘end-time Christianity’ though they converted MANY via ‘Prophesying, Casting out Demons and Miracles’ are denied for LAWLESSNESS which is because they did “not” Preach and Do these COMMANDS of CHRIST (see Matthew 7:24 for this ‘Secret’) mentioned primarily in Matthew 5 to Matthew 7 hence the parts which they practiced couldn’t exceed the Pharisees’ observance of the Torah in the earlier Covenant (the parts which they got right) as Christ Warned in Matthew 5:20

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

There is also a ‘Lawlessness within’ which can be only Cleansed via ‘Almsgiving’ from ‘what you have’ (not from other people’s money without including your own) as CHRIST HIMSELF TAUGHT in Verses below (Please notice the word “LAWLESS” in Verse below)

 

“… 25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you CLEANSE THE OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and dish, but INSIDE THEY ARE FULL OF EXTORTION and [l]SELF-INDULGENCE. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also. 27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like WHITEWASHED TOMBS which indeed appear BEAUTIFUL OUTWARDLY, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also OUTWARDLY APPEAR RIGHTEOUS TO MEN, but INSIDE YOU ARE FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND LAWLESSNESS. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 23:25 – 28, NKJV)

 

“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For YOU TITHE mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. 43Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the [m]best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces. 44Woe to you, [n]scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like graves which are not seen, and the men who walk over them are not aware of them.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 45, NKJV)

 

More details in link below:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161318269272784

 

6) Which Commands to ENTER HEAVEN?

 

Anything Written from Matthew 5 to Matthew 7 (as Verse in image also ‘comments’) and anywhere else in the New Testament if one wants a Greater Reward, Verses:

 

“… 18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. …” (Matthew 28:18 – 20, NKJV)

 

Note: Converting without “… 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU …” may cause a LAWLESS ENDTIME Christianity (Matthew 7:20 – 24 toward MANY which is DENIED) or become LEAST even if some make it IF THEY DID NOT PREACH and DO what is WRITTEN as CHRIST’S COMMANDS (Matthew 5:19 – 20):

 

“… 36Or did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37If anyone thinks they are a prophet or otherwise gifted by the Spirit, let them acknowledge that what I AM WRITING TO YOU is the LORD’S COMMAND. 38But IF ANYONE IGNORES THIS, THEY WILL THEMSELVES BE IGNORED …” (1 Corinthians 14:36 – 38, NIV)

 

The Verse below clearly Reveals that ONLY WHICH COMMANDS are WRITTEN are counted:

 

“… Therefore JUDGE NOTHING BEFORE THE TIME, UNTIL THE LORD COMES, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God. 6Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be [c]puffed up on behalf of one against the other. 7For who [d]MAKES YOU DIFFER FROM ANOTHER? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? … 14I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. 15For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16Therefore I URGE YOU, IMITATE ME. 17For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH.  …” (1 Corinthians 4:5 – 7, 14 – 17, NKJV)

 

“… that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the COMMANDMENT of us, the APOSTLES OF THE LORD and SAVIOR, …” (2 Peter 3:2, NKJV)

 

“… 1 IMITATE ME, just as I also IMITATE CHRIST. 2Now I PRAISE YOU, brethren, that you remember me in all things and KEEP THE TRADITIONS just as I delivered them to you. … 16But if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God. … ” (1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2, 11:16, NKJV)

 

“… For I bear them witness that they have a ZEAL FOR GOD, but NOT ACCORDING TO KNOWLEDGE. …” (Romans 10:2, NKJV)

 

“… 5And also if anyone competes in athletics, he is NOT CROWNED unless he COMPETES ACCORDING to THE RULES. … 14REMIND THEM OF THESE THINGS, charging them before the Lord not to [d]strive about words to no profit, to the RUIN OF THE HEARERS. … ” (2 Timothy 2:5, 14, NKJV)

 

Yes, God’s Will is to Encourage with both “GOOD WORD” and “GOOD WORK” based on the “WRITTEN TRADITIONS” in the New Testament Scripture, Verses:

 

“… 15Therefore, brethren, STAND FAST AND HOLD THE TRADITIONS which you were taught, whether BY WORD OR OUR [H]EPISTLE. 16Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 17comfort your hearts and [i]establish you in EVERY GOOD WORD AND WORK. …” (2 Thessalonians 2:15 – 17, NKJV)

 

 

 

7) Did Christ Teach that thirty, sixty and hundredfold rewards are different?

 

Yes, Christ Himself Declared that the HUNDREDFOLD Reward is Different from the Thirty/Sixty fold as the Requirement to Attain it is to fulfill one of those difficult aspects below in some way (Please notice the word “HUNDREDFOLD” carefully in Matthew 19:29 below):

 

“… 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ  (Matthew 19:29 – 30, NKJV)

 

Note: Christ Speaks of ‘Ranking/Difference’ in Inheritance and the Famous “first will be last” and “LAST FIRST” in His Kingdom is in ‘this Context’ of doing something written here.

 

 

Hundredfold Mystery – Only One Verse in the Bible Describes the Details of what to do to inherit it

 

Please notice the word “HUNDREDFOLD” carefully in Matthew 19:29 below):

 

“… 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ  (Matthew 19:29 – 30, NKJV)

 

Note: Christ Speaks of ‘Ranking/Difference’ in Inheritance and the Famous “first will be last” and “LAST FIRST” in His Kingdom is in ‘this Context’ of doing something written here.

 

There are only two things mentioned for “Hundredfold”

 

1. Leaving a significant relationship for the Gospel’s Sake in some way (e.g. ‘LEAVING WIFE’ Context which we discuss next in detail below)

 

2. Leaving significant earthly things for the Gospel’s Sake (e.g. ‘LEAVING HOUSES or LANDS’ because one became a Christian or more so LEAVING it by SELLING it and GIVING/SHARING it to the POOR as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE) as a few Verses earlier this ‘Context of PERFECTION’ was Uttered First by Christ as follows (where PERFECT must merit HUNDREDFOLD too, right? for if not, it’s not perfect), to quote:

 

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I STILL LACK?” 21JESUS said to him, “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS.23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, NKJV)

 

Related Verses by Christ Himself:

 

“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)

 

“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)

 

Christ Declared that not all Mysteries of Heaven is given to us but the Apostles (and First Christianity may have known it; to hide it would mean not to write it in Bible Verses). Here’s such one “possibility”:

 

Here’s an example from “Agrapha” Quotes (not found in the Bible but via writings of Church Fathers etc.) where it is Said that Christ Himself Taught regarding Renouncing Marriage for those chosen for it where these could be examples of the

 

“… And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen. …” (John 21:25, NKJV)

 

“… He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 13:11, NKJV)

 

Example (in the Context of ‘left wife’ in Matthew 19:29’s “Hundredfold” Verse earlier to refer or include also ‘being unmarried’ as Koine Greek Literally has “no” word for “wife” and so this could be ‘left woman’ too referring to the unmarried just like the highest 144000 firstfruit jewish virgin men of Heaven as mentioned in Revelation 7:1 – 10, Revelation 14:1 – 5):

 

“… 10His disciples said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is BETTER NOT TO MARRY.” 11But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12For there are [c]eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. HE WHO IS ABLE TO ACCEPT IT, LET HIM ACCEPT IT.” …” (Matthew 19:10 – 12, NKJV)

 

What did Christ Mean? The “Agrapha” quote below may explain it quoting Christ on it as follows:

 

“… And AGAIN THE LORD SAYS: Let the one who has married not be cast out, and let the one who has not married not marry. He who has confessed that he will not marry according to his decision of eunuchhood, let him remain unmarried….” – Blessed St. Clement of Alexandria, Head of the Cathecathical School At Alexandria (c. 150 AD – c. 215 AD, Miscellanies 3.15)

 

Source for ( “Agrapha ” ) Quote above:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20080215124232/http://www.textexcavation.com/agrapha.html

 

Note: The “Agrapha”  refers to Quote attributed to Christ but not Written in the Bible.

 

Fascinating indeed, may God’s Will be Done either way even if we didn’t know about it or err about it.

 

An Example Discussion regarding Matthew 5:20’s “your righteousness” to “exceed that of the Pharisees to enter the Kingdom of Heaven” based on one aspect of MATTHEW 6’s (same Sermon on the Mount) regarding “Almsgiving”, “Prayer” and “Fasting” as CHRIST TAUGHT DIRECTLY is in link below:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161331283277784

 

Please note that the exact same Koine Greek Word (in all sense) translated as “WIFE”  [1135 gynaika] in “LEFT WIFE” Context below in Matthew 5 itself is Uttered by Christ Once to mean “Woman” (generally) and “Wife” by Context of usage in another instance as follows:

 

“… 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE [1135 gynaika] or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ  (Matthew 19:29 – 30, NKJV)

 

Source: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/19-29.htm

 

“… But I say to you that whoever looks at a WOMAN  [1135 gynaika] to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:28, NKJV)

 

Source: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/5-28.htm

 

“… “Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces HIS WIFE  [1135 gynaika], let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:31, NKJV)

 

Source: https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/5-31.htm

 

So even if the Context is ‘leave Wife’ to fulfill the Gospel Commands in some way and can merit the “HUNDREDFOLD” Reward (if some claim that), then how can NOT MARRYING at all NOT MERIT this ‘same reward’ as clearly it’s the higher path in this context of ‘leaving wife/ leaving woman’ completely? As Apostle St. Paul pointed out in 1 Corinthians 7 below, that’s why ‘he wished all men were as himself’ (for this Heavenly reward) for if not, he wouldn’t be bothered about earthly context as he writes below that ‘being unmarried is better in the Context of Prayer & Serving God’ agreeing to all this (for if there is ‘no’ difference in being married or not or one could do it whilst being married, then they “contradict” these Bible Verses which Says otherwise, and I will prefer to stick to ‘Written Scripture’ here too):

 

“… 7For I WISH THAT ALL MEN WERE EVEN as I MYSELF. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. 8But I say to the UNMARRIED AND TO THE WIDOWS: IT IS GOOD FOR THEM IF THEY REMAIN EVEN AS I AM; 9but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. … 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have TROUBLE IN THE FLESH, but I WOULD SPARE YOU. … 32But I want you to be without care. He who is UNMARRIED CARES FOR THE THINGS OF THE LORD—how he may PLEASE THE LORD. 33But HE WHO IS MARRIED CARES about the THINGS OF THE WORLD—how he may PLEASE HIS WIFE. … 38So then he who GIVES HER IN MARRIAGE DOES WELL, but he WHO DOES NOT GIVE HER IN MARRIAGE DOES BETTER. …” (1 Corinthians 7:7 – 9, 28, 32 – 33, 38, NKJV)

 

Yes, even purity in ‘fasting and prayer’ is affected by LAWFUL MARRIAGE relations as it’s best when the married couple is not physically engaged (so some may dedicate a lifetime of lifestyle of prayer by not marrying at all which must be best, right? like the ‘Church Fathers’ did) which is Biblical according to Verses below:

 

“… Do not deprive one another EXCEPT WITH CONSENT FOR A TIME, that you may GIVE YOURSELVES TO FASTING and PRAYER; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. …” (1 Corinthians 7:5, NKJV)

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Heaven is a Real Place and not State only and there are at least THREE LAYERS of Heavens

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161336136027784

 

1) We know that there are at least THREE HEAVENS in layers

 

“… 2I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. 3And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— 4how he was caught up into PARADISE and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. …” (2 Corinthians 12:2 – 4, NKJV)

 

2) What are these THREE HEAVENS and note that Apostle St. Paul identifies it as “PARADISE”? First Christianity may be able to explain it below:

 

“… A fragment from the early 2nd century of one of the lost volumes of Papias, a Christian bishop, expounds that “heaven” was separated into three distinct layers. He referred to the first as just “heaven”, the second as “paradise”, and the third as “the city”. Papias taught that “there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce a hundredfold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold”. In the 2nd century AD, Irenaeus (a Greek bishop) wrote that not all who are saved would merit an abode in heaven itself. …”

 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_in_Christianity

 

3) So is St. Papias contradicting St. Paul by calling ‘Paradise as the 2nd Heaven’ instead of the ‘3rd Heaven’? Not at all because the Original Quote signifies the matching with the thirty, sixty and hundredfold only and NOT the ‘numbering of layers in heaven’, to quote:

 

“… As the presbyters say, then those who are deemed worthy of an abode in heaven shall go there, others shall enjoy the delights of Paradise, and others shall possess the splendour of the city; for everywhere the Saviour will be seen, according as they shall be worthy who see Him. But that there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce an hundredfold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold; for the first will be taken up into the heavens, the second class will dwell in Paradise, and the last will inhabit the city; and that on this account the Lord said, “In my Father’s house are many mansions:” …” – Blessed St. Papias, Bishop of Hierapolis, an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of the Blessed St. John the Apostle (c. 60 AD – c. 163 AD)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/papias.html

 

Conclusion

 

Combining St. Paul’s numbering of Heaven and St. Papias’ quote, the following may be few ways to understand it:

 

Option 1)

 

First and Second Heavens (Hundredfold abodes) = ‘Heavens’ (plural)

 

Third Heaven (sixty-fold abodes) = Paradise

 

Fourth Heaven (thirty-fold abodes) = New Jerusalem City

 

Note: Jewish Understanding/Tradition generally has 7 heavens too, as described in link below:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Heavens

 

Option 2)

 

First Heavens (Hundredfold abodes) = ‘Heavens’ (plural)

 

Second Heaven (sixty-fold abodes) = Paradise

 

Third Heaven (thirty-fold abodes) = New Jerusalem City

 

In this case the man was caught up into the Third Heaven and then went up till Paradise (Second Heaven) during the Visit.

 

or other possibilities too.

 

Comment: St. Papias’ Quote and St. Irenaeous of Lyons Quote below are similar and thus both may have known or believed in “7 Heavens” because St. Irenaeous of Lyon’s writing clearly mentions it as follows:

 

“… 9. Now THIS WORLD is encompassed by SEVEN HEAVENS,26 in which dwell powers and angels and |78 archangels, doing service to God, the Almighty and Maker of all things: not as though He was in need, but that they may not be idle and unprofitable and ineffectual.27 Wherefore also the Spirit of God is manifold in (His) indwelling,28 and in seven forms of service 29 is He reckoned by the prophet Isaiah, as resting on the Son of God, that is the Word, in His coming as man. The Spirit of God, he says, shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of might, (the Spirit of knowledge) and of godliness; the Spirit of the fear of God shall fill him.3…” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, Book 1, Chapter 5, Point 2-partial)

 

Source:

 

https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/irenaeus_02_proof.htm

 

The similar ‘Three Heaven’ part quote of St. Irenaeous to St. Papias below for comparison:

 

“… And as the presbyters* say, Then those who are deemed worthy of an abode in heaven shall go there, others shall enjoy the delights of paradise, and others shall possess the splendour of the city; for everywhere the Saviour shall be seen according as they who see Him shall be worthy. [They say, moreover], that there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce an hundred-fold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold [Matthew 13:1 – 8, Matthew 13:18 – 23]: for the first will be taken up into the heavens, the second will dwell in paradise, the last will inhabit the city; and that was on this account the Lord declared, “In My Father’s house are many mansions.” For all things belong to God, who supplies all with a suitable dwelling-place; even as His Word says, that a share is allotted to all by the Father, according as each person is or shall be worthy. And this is the couch on which the guests shall recline, having been invited to the wedding. The presbyters, the disciples of the apostles, affirm that this is the gradation and arrangement of those who are saved, and that they advance through steps of this nature… For in the TIMES of the KINGDOM, the righteous man who is upon the earth shall then forget to die. … John, therefore, did distinctly foresee the FIRST “RESURRECTION of the JUST,” [Revelation 20:4 – 6, 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 18, Luke 14:14] and the inheritance in the kingdom of the earth; and what the prophets have prophesied concerning it harmonize [with his vision, e.g. Isaiah 65:20 – 23, Isaiah 11, Revelation 20:7 – 10]. For the Lord also taught these things, when He promised that He would have the mixed cup new with His disciples in the kingdom. …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, Book 5, Chapter Chapter XXXVI, Points 1 – 2, 3-partial)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Kingdom of Heaven Biblical Facts

 

1) Some Say that the Verse below proves that ‘Heaven is not a place but a state’

 

“… 20Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; 21nor will they say, [f]‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is [g]within you.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 17:20 – 21, NKJV)

 

The Answer Christ Gave above is in Response to the Question “when” will the “Kingdom of God Come” meaning that it had Begun “within them that Receive Him first” (in their hearts being transformed) to attain to that “Bodily Resurrection” (2 Corinthians 5:2) and a “Literal Home in the Heavens too” (Hebrews 11:16). So without such a ‘longing within’ we may not be Christians as these Verses describe clearly:

 

“… 1For we know that if our earthly [a]house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2For in this we groan, earnestly DESIRING to be CLOTHED with our [b]HABITATION WHICH IS FROM  HEAVEN, 3if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. 4For we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed, but further clothed, that MORTALITY may be SWALLOWED UP BY LIFE. …” (2 Corinthians 5:1 – 4, NKJV)

 

“… But now they desire a better, that is, a HEAVENLY COUNTRY. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has PREPARED A CITY for THEM …” (Hebrews 11:16, NKJV)

 

2) Kingdom of Heaven

 

Kingdom of Heaven includes not just the New Earth of the Future but also the New Heavens too (and the Old Heavens now, Revelation 21:1) just like Christ Entered/Ascended after Bodily Resurrection. Till then, it’s Hades/Sheol say in ‘Abraham’s Bosom comfort regions vs Torment regions’ with our Souls (Luke 16:19 – 31).

 

“… Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. …” (Revelation 21:1, NKJV)

 

 

3) Heaven is a place with Treasures

 

Matthew 6:19 – 21

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

 

Note: The rest of the Verses including this one are quoted using ESV unless stated otherwise.

 

4) Christ is in the Heavens preparing a place there too

 

John 14:2

In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?

 

5) The New Jerusalem City is literal City and is part of the “Heavenly” place

 

Hebrews 11:16

But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city.

 

6) Heavens is plural actually indicating layers and is different from the new earth

 

2 Peter 3:13

But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

 

7) Citizenship is given to a “Literal Place” and thus the phrase “Citizens of Heaven” refers to an actual place

 

Philippians 3:20 – 21

But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.

 

8) Angels live in heaven as in a place

 

Matthew 18:10

See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.

 

9) Elijah literally went to a place in Heaven

 

2 Kings 2:11

And as they still went on and talked, behold, chariots of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

 

10) There’s an actual gathering in heavenly Jerusalem First

 

Hebrews 12:22 – 24

But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel.

 

11) We know that there are at least three heavens in layers

 

2 Corinthians 12:2

I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows.

 

12) Inheritance Level in the Heavens is not same for every believer as ‘Salvation is by Faith’ but ‘Reward is by Work’ where the phrase “Treasure in Heavens” has only been used in Scripture for the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle transaction of our earthly money” which is Taught by CHRIST HIMSELF (if anyone says otherwise, please ask them for the Verse; so whether other righteous acts can give ‘treasure in heaven’ or are acts to ‘keep a faith pure’ is ‘not Written’ but ‘possible’ but regardless the “WRITTEN part here must merit the highest treasure in Heavens” for if not Christ wouldn’t have Said “Perfect” or these only in Verses below as referring to the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle only’):

 

“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)

 

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?”21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE in HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS.23Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. … 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” … 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, 27 – 30, NKJV)

 

Note: Please notice the Word “Perfect” carefully in Matthew 19:21 and the phrase “TREASURE IN HEAVEN” carefully in Luke 12:33 and Matthew 19:21 which is immediately stated as a reward for the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of ’33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN’ (Luke 12:33) and ’21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE in HEAVEN; ‘ (Matthew 19:21) as ‘it is Written’. So the Charity Doctrine is a Doctrine for ‘Treasure in Heavens’ and if anyone looks down at Christ’s Words here, then they don’t deserve that Treasure in Heaven when Revealed because they didn’t take it seriously nor appreciate His Command to attain it here.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Can only a “Pastor” Preach?

 

 

Can only a “Pastor/Church/Particular Denomination” Baptize?

 

 

Source Text

https://www.abwe.org/blog/charles-spurgeon-how-fulfill-great-commission-troubled-times

 

 

 

Fruit = Good Works which Meets the Needs of Others or Benefits Others

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161338957532784

 

1) Church Gathering is to do Good Works to benefit others apart from Praising God or Prayers to Him

 

When this Verse below was Written, there was “no” Church Buildings in existence and it referred to an “assembling” of “believers” living together, praying together and doing “Good Works” to benefit others

 

“… 24And let us consider one another in order to STIR UP LOVE AND GOOD WORKS, 25not forsaking the ASSEMBLING OF OURSELVES TOGETHER, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching. …” (Hebrews 10:24 – 25, NKJV)

 

Comment: one can join in Church too to fulfill this or in House meetings but the best is to “live together with some Christians” fulfilling it ‘almost daily’ doing the “stir up love & good works” part of Communal living too as the First Church did, Verses:

 

“… 44Now all who BELIEVED were together, and had ALL THINGS in COMMON, 45and SOLD their POSSESSIONS and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. 46So continuing DAILY with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and SIMPLICITY of HEART, 47praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved. …” (Acts 2:44 – 47, NKJV)

 

“… 32Now the multitude of those who BELIEVED were of ONE HEART and ONE SOUL; neither did anyone say that ANY of the THINGS he POSSESSED was HIS OWN, but they had ALL THINGS in COMMON. … 34Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for ALL who were POSSESSORS of LANDS or HOUSES SOLD them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they DISTRIBUTED to each as ANYONE had NEED. 36And Joses, who was also named Barnabas by the apostles (which is translated Son of Encouragement), a Levite of the country of Cyprus, 37having land, sold it, and brought the money and laid it at the apostles’ feet. …” (Acts 4:32, 34 – 37, NKJV)

 

Comment: Hebrews 10:24 – 25’s “assembling together” was “living together” as Described in Acts 2:44 – 47 and Acts 4:32, 34 – 47 as the Real Contextual Meaning for these Verses “as it is Written” which is the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ with ‘Praising God’ and ‘Prayers’ too. Any modern Christianity gathering if remotely approximates this perfect Church above would be a closest resemblance to it and vice versa.

 

2) Fruit as Good Works especially the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle

 

To be “Fruitful” and Worthy of the Lord is to do ‘Good Works’

 

“… that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing Him, being FRUITFUL IN EVERY GOOD WORK and increasing in the knowledge of God; …” (Colossians 1:10, NKJV)

 

The Risk of “no” Good Works = “no” fruit is Judgment:

 

“… 9And even now the AX IS LAID TO THE ROOT OF THE TREES. Therefore EVERY TREE which DOES NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT Is cut down and THROWN INTO THE FIRE.” 10So the people asked him, saying, “What shall we do then?” 11He answered and said to them, “HE WHO HAS TWO TUNICS, let him GIVE TO HIM WHO HAS NONE; and HE WHO HAS FOOD, LET HIM DO LIKEWISE.” …” (Luke 3:9 – 11, NKJV)

 

Note: Please notice carefully that the “Good Fruit” identified clearly in Verses above first is the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ of ‘Giving and Sharing Food + Clothing’ which is to meet the “needs of others” in which the ‘foolish virgins didn’t devote themselves to’ as First Christianity Taught (Matthew 25:1 – 13).

 

3) Good Fruit Definition

 

Good “Fruit” refers to things which meets the “needs” (not prosperity nor vanity/wants nor luxury) of others where without such type of specific “Good Works” one can become “unfruitful” (which could lead to the Judgment of Fire as Luke 3:9 itself Warned) where this Definition is “not” man-made “nor” my opinion but what’s Plainly Defined in Bible Verses below “as it is Written” (where this is the Definition of the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” for “Good Fruits to avoid being Unfruitful”):

 

“… And let our people also learn to MAINTAIN GOOD WORKS, TO MEET URGENT NEEDS, that they may NOT BE UNFRUITFUL. …” (Titus 3:14, NKJV)

 

Comment: The Verse above implies that those who are not doing Good Works to meet the needs of others (by Relative Measure) are being “unfruitful” according to the Bible Verse above.

 

That’s why Apostle St. Paul (the Inspired Author of Grace Only) himself defined the “Good Works” Which are relevant for “Eternal Life” Context not as something ambiguous but clearly as the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” of “Giving/Sharing with each other” (Communal Living according to Relative Measure as whether one is “Rich” to do it, as God Alone Knows all) as it’s clearly described in Verses below too as a “COMMAND” (not option) for “ETERNAL LIFE”, Verses:

 

“… 17COMMAND THOSE WHO ARE RICH in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. 18Let THEM DO GOOD, that they be RICH IN GOOD WORKS, READY TO GIVE, WILLING TO SHARE, 19storing up for themselves a good foundation for the time to come, that THEY MAY LAY HOLD ON ETERNAL LIFE. …” (1 Timothy 6:17 – 19, NKJV)

 

Note: This agrees with ‘Judgment Day’ Verses in Matthew 25:31 – 46 which the foolish virgins failed in comparison (mentioned first in consecutive verses in Matthew 25:1 – 13) must thus refer to Matthew 25:31 – 46’s Charity Doctrine Lifestyle only as it’s only mentioned what one did in response to when another was ‘… Hungry, Thirsty, Naked, Homeless …’ etc. in these Verses ‘as it is Written’.

 

Christ Taught this Clearly in Verses below likewise as it affects your “Eternal Home” (Reward Level, as the same Word “Aeonian” translated as “Eternal” here in Luke 16:9 below is also used in the ‘Eternal Life’ Vs ‘Eternal Punishment’ in Matthew 25:46 too):

 

“… 9Here’s the lesson: USE YOUR WORLDLY RESOURCES to BENEFIT OTHERS AND MAKE FRIENDS. Then, when your possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an ETERNAL HOME. 10“If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. But if you are dishonest in little things, you won’t be honest with greater responsibilities. 11And IF YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY ABOUT WORLDLY WEALTH, who will trust you with the TRUE RICHES OF HEAVEN? 12And if you are not faithful with other people’s things, why should you be trusted with things of your own? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:9 – 12, NLT)

 

So, the Bible is clear that those who live daily like it’s described in these Verses are Carrying their Cross and are True Christians with “Good Fruits” which God Defined clearly in these Verses as it is Written.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Christ Specifically Warned of these three things which can affect “your heart” to destroy you

 

 

Verse in full:

 

“… 34“But take heed to yourselves, lest YOUR HEARTS BE WEIGHED DOWN with [h]CAROUSING, DRUNKENESS, and CARES OF THIS LIFE, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. 35For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36Watch therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS that you may [i]be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 21:34 – 36, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1) CAROUSING, = ‘Living in earthly enjoyment can include worldly prosperity enjoyments to festivities type’

 

Source: https://biblehub.com/topical/c/carousing.htm

 

2) DRUNKENESS, = Consuming much Alcohol (little is allowed but best is to “not” consume alcohol at all)

 

3) CARES OF THIS LIFE, = Again the “Prosperity Gospel” is dangerous as it teaches to seek say “riches” as part of “God’s Blessings” but CHRIST WARNED NOT TO SEEK IT in Verse below as part of “His Definition” of the “Cares of this life” which “He Meant”, Verse:

 

“… Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the CARES OF THIS WORLD and the DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES CHOKE THE WORD, and he becomes UNFRUITFUL. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 13:22, NKJV)

 

 

 

Solution for these:

 

” …  PRAY ALWAYS …” (in the heart also can)

 

Please notice carefully that Christians generally seek these things but think that they are “not” affected by it which is an illusion or “deceit” actually because to test whether “your heart” is “weighed down” by these, let us ‘self-examine’ to see ‘how many hours in a day even’ we either devote our time to pursuing on of these “dangerous” things or we “think about it” (example: letting the mind wander on prosperity thoughts of what to buy next or which enjoyment next kind of pursuits etc.) —> “… lest YOUR HEARTS BE WEIGHED DOWN with [h]CAROUSING, DRUNKENESS, and CARES OF THIS LIFE …:”

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

Charity Doctrine and Mercy link on Judgment Day

 

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https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161404426322784

 

In Verses below please notice carefully that Blessed Apostle St. Paul clearly speaks of “God’s Mercy” to be Granted on “that Day” referring to “Judgment Day Context” toward Blessed Onesiphorus for the sole reason that Blessed Onesiphorus Practiced the ‘CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE’ toward Apostle St. Paul himself by providing for his needs as evidenced clearly by these phrases “…FOR HE OFTEN REFRESHED ME,…” and “…and YOU KNOW VERY WELL HOW MANY WAYS HE MINISTERED [d]TO ME at Ephesus  …” below ‘as it is Written’:

 

“… 16The LORD GRANT MERCY to the HOUSEHOLD OF ONESIPHORUS, FOR HE OFTEN REFRESHED ME, and was not ashamed of my chain; … 18The LORD GRANT TO HIM that HE MAY FIND MERCY FROM THE LORD IN THAT DAY—and YOU KNOW VERY WELL HOW MANY WAYS HE MINISTERED [d]TO ME at Ephesus….” (2 Timothy 1:16, 18,  NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1) The phrase “… IN THAT DAY …” = ‘Judgment Day’

 

2) The phrase “… HE MAY FIND MERCY FROM THE LORD IN THAT DAY …” = Obtaining Mercy on ‘Judgment Day’

 

3) The phrase “… and YOU KNOW VERY WELL HOW MANY WAYS HE MINISTERED [d]TO ME …” = Charity Doctrine Lifestyle lived by Blessed Onesiphorus toward Blessed Apostle St. Paul

 

4) The phrase “… 16The LORD GRANT MERCY to the HOUSEHOLD OF ONESIPHORUS …” = This Mercy on “that Day” Context (Judgment Day) may not just be limited to Blessed Onesiphorus but also toward “his household/family” simply because his contributions are from family income too who supported him and thus were considered giving to Blessed Apostle St. Paul.

 

5) The phrase “… FOR HE OFTEN REFRESHED ME, and was not ashamed of my chain …” = Blessed Onesiphorus provided for Blessed Apostle St. Paul by refreshing him via Providence of needs which is the CHARITY DOCTRINE as the REASON FOR MERCY TO BE GRANTED ON JUDGMENT DAY or “in that Day” CONTEXT as so clearly Written here.

 

6) If Blessed Onesiphorus was saved without the need of doing any Charity Doctrine (as most likely Blessed Onesiphorus was dead when this happened and that’s why Blessed Apostle St. Paul is Speaking of “Mercy to Blessed Onesiphorus may be Granted by God on THAT DAY referring to JUDGMENT DAY Context only” here as many scholars have noted too), then why is Blessed Apostle St. Paul clearly refering to “Mercy” to be “only shown for the sole reason” (as no other reason or religious acts of Blessed Onesiphorus is mentioned in Scripture here either be it praying/fasting or Church gathering etc. as these are accepted only in proportion of the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Lived’ only first) as these Verses themselves clearly only “repeat twice” that the “reason for Mercy” to be Granted is ONLY THE CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE, to repeat this in highlight below:

 

1. i) First mention of the Charity Doctrine as the Reason for God’s Mercy to be Shown on “Judgment Day” (“in that Day” Context)

 

The phrase: “… FOR HE OFTEN REFRESHED ME …” (2 Timothy 1:16, NKJV)

 

1. ii) Second mention of the Charity Doctrine as the Reason for God’s Mercy to be Shown on “Judgment Day” (“in that Day” Context)

 

The phrase: “… and YOU KNOW VERY WELL HOW MANY WAYS HE MINISTERED [d]TO ME at Ephesus….” (2 Timothy 1:18, NKJV)

 

Note: you can check that all Bible translations read the ‘same meaning’ for these set of Verses in “Judgment Day” (“in that Day”) Context to be “shown Mercy” based on this “CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE first” in link below:

https://biblehub.com/2_timothy/1-18.htm

 

 

 

Since Blessed Onesiphorus must be one of the 5 Wise Virgins with “oil” in Matthew 25:1 – 13, it’s most likely the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as explained in an earlier Post in link below as First Christianity including Blessed Martin Luther the First Protestant has agreed too as the meaning of this Parable:

 

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161389068392784/

 

7) If Blessed Onesiphorus was saved without the “fruit” (not cause) of the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle”, why does Blessed Apostle St. Paul (the Real Inspired Author of Grace Alone) emphasising “only” that point repeatedly here in the context of “Mercy” shown on “Judgment Day” (“in that Day”) with nothing else mentioned regarding Blessed Onesiphorus as to whether his Eschatological understandings were perfect or whether he tithed, he prayed or fasted much, or spoke in tongues or cast out demons or prophesied or did miracles or attended church etc.?

 

Also, the Actual Judgment Day Description by Christ in Matthew 25:31 – 46 —> I have repeated many times in the Book and so I am “not” repeating it here but it clearly depicts the ‘Charity Doctrine only’ yet again agreeing in context perfectly. Indeed, the Judgment Day Verses (in Matthew 25:31 – 46) mentioning only “‘Charity Doctrine aspect of Almsgiving only”‘ (no prayer/fasting mentioned) as our Response to ‘… When I was Hungry, Thirsty, Naked, Homeless …’ may finally be Understood as ”Éxceeding the Righteousness of the Pharisees to Enter Heaven'” as these Verses collectively Reveal ”as it is Written”.

 

Why deny all these Bible Verses?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion

 

So ‘Charity Doctrine clearly affects “God’s Mercy” in the “Judgment Day Context” and since the Bible Verses must agree, the “Mercy which Triumphs over Judgment” (and ends it on ‘Judgment Day Context’ for if Judgment still remains then Mercy has ‘not’ Triumphed over it) must thus be toward those who have Practiced the ‘CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE’ , Verses:

 

“… 13For JUDGMENT IS WITHOUT MERCY to the ONE WHO HAS SHOWN NO MERCY. MERCY TRIUMPHS OVER JUDGMENT. 14What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? CAN FAITH SAVE HIM? 15If a BROTHER OR SISTER IS NAKED AND DESTITUTE OF DAILY FOOD, 16and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do NOT GIVE THEM THE THINGS WHICH ARE NEEDED FOR THE BODY, WHAT DOES IT PROFIT? 17Thus also faith by itself, if it does NOT HAVE WORKS, IS DEAD. …” (James 2:13 – 17, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1) Did you notice that MERCY ends JUDGMENT in Verses above is in the Context of Mercy referring to “Mercy which one has shown in life prior first based on the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE LIVED ONLY FIRST“?

 

2) The “only” Works of Faith which can end Judgment Day condemnation here are described as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE ONLY as these phrases mean “… CAN FAITH SAVE HIM? 15If a BROTHER OR SISTER IS NAKED AND DESTITUTE OF DAILY FOOD, 16and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do NOT GIVE THEM THE THINGS WHICH ARE NEEDED FOR THE BODY, WHAT DOES IT PROFIT? …”.

 

3) Other Works of faith are possible be it praying, fasting, church attendance etc. but NOT WRITTEN here because until the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE IS PRACTICED FIRST, nothing else matters as Judgment is only Triumphed by “the Level of Mercy one lived in life prior first” as these Bible Verses (not my opinion clearly Teach here “as it is Written”).

 

 

 

 

4) This is “not” Salvation by Works but rather the “Fruit” of Salvation which will be evidenced in any person’s life whom “God Saves” and thus “Common Ground” toward all who are Saved by Mercy on Judgment Day via this Charity Doctrine Fruit also implies that this must be “the oil” the Wise Virgins had as First Christianity Taught likewise.

 

5) Apostle St. Paul won’t be asking for “Mercy” to be shown to Blessed Onesiphorus due to the latter’s “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” unless it is “possible” based on this on “Judgment Day” and that’s why we consider the “possibility” that even Possibly some non-Christians may be shown this same Mercy if they were kind to Christians likewise by practicing the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle toward Christians too. So we can ask but let God Alone Decide in the end which makes no one a heretic here.

 

I didn’t hide any details which May point to another context when quoting 2 Timothy 1:16, 18 earlier as you can see in full in “Consecutive Verses” below too:

 

“…  13HOLD FAST THE PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That GOOD THING WHICH WAS COMMITTED TO YOU, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. 15This you know, that all those in Asia have turned away from me, among whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes. 16The LORD GRANT MERCY to the HOUSEHOLD OF ONESIPHORUS, FOR HE OFTEN REFRESHED ME, and was not ashamed of my chain; 17but when he arrived in Rome, he sought me out very zealously and found me. 18The LORD GRANT TO HIM THAT HE MAY FIND MERCY FROM THE LORD IN THAT DAY—and YOU KNOW VERY WELL HOW MANY WAYS HE MINISTERED [d]TO ME AT EPHESUS. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 18, NKJV)

 

Comment:

 

Verse 13 above Speaks clearly that the Sign of the Most Blessed HOLY SPIRIT of God is clearly to KEEP THESE SOUND WORDS which Includes (but not limited to) Verses 16  and 18 here which clearly Teach the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as the FRUIT OF SALVATION for MERCY to be SHOWN ON JUDGEMENT DAY ( “in that Day”).

 

 

 

 

So any True Church of Christ which is led by the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God should likewise “Keep by the Holy Spirit” these “Pattern of Sound Words” which in the First and Foremost Context they were Written here refers to this CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE for MERCY on JUDGMENT DAY instead of Verse 15 type of Judas-Christians who in comparison abandoned Apostle St. Paul by “not” doing this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle to him as Blessed Onesiphorus clearly did as the Bible is so clear on these meanings as “no” difficulties of translation or anything like that appears in these Verses “as it is Written”.

 

Hence, Charity Doctrine is Truly a Doctrine for the Church of Christ in the Context of Finding MERCY on JUDGMENT DAY as the FRUIT OF SALVATION.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

Possibility for Hope for Some non-Christians in the Second Resurrection Discussion

 

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https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161404805337784

 

Question

 

Judgement Day is only for the >>Unsaved and Sinners and the Demon Seeds.

 

For the Righteous are Rapture 1,000 + years before the Great White Throne Judgement Days…

 

So if you found your Soul at the Great White Throne at the Judgement Day that meant you were Never Saved

 

For you did not receive your First Resurrection/Rapture when Jesus return ….

 

Reply

 

Firstly, Regardless of Eschatologies, the Mercy to be saved on “that Day” as Apostle St. Paul Writes is clearly based on Charity Doctrine in 2 Timothy 1:16 – 18 as was discussed in an earlier post in link below:

 

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161404426322784/

 

As regards to Eschatology,

 

Some seemed to be saved only on Judgment Day as per details below:

 

 

1) The Surprised Sheep of the “nations/Gentiles” based on the “Charity Doctrine of what one did ‘… when I was Hungry, Thirsty, Naked, Homeless,…’ are clearly Saved on Judgment Day only (as described in Matthew 25:31 – 46)  which  occurs 1000 years after the First Resurrection and Rapture (Matthew 25:1 – 13).

 

Please take note that it’s highly unlikely that Matthew 25:1 – 13 and Matthew 25:31 – 46 Speaks of the “same timeline”.

 

Also, the Millennial Reign Jews which consists of “sinners” too on the earth at that time (e.g. Isaiah 65:20, KJV) are only saved on Judgment Day based on their works/”fruit” as Matthew 25:14 – 30 Describes.

 

So, it’s unlikely that all three passages in Matthew 25 namely Matthew 25:1 – 13, Matthew 25:14 – 30 and Matthew 25:31 – 46  Speak of only the Christian Salvation but rather may be indicating the 1000 years timeline as per the Chiliasm Doctrine in First Christianity which seems to match it best.

 

2) Revelation 21:24 – 27 mentions “nations who are saved” which only occurs post-judgment Day because Revelation 21:27 refers to this as “those whose names are in the Book of Life” referring to Revelation 20:11 – 15’s Judgment Day Timeline as Christians or “the Bride” are clearly mentioned to be different in Revelation 21:9 – 10 here.

 

3) Both John 5:28 – 29 and Daniel 12:2 seem to Speak of a righteous rising from the dead simultaneously with the wicked. If literal, this cannot refer to the Christian Resurrection because Christians only Rise alone according to Revelation 20:5 or Revelation 20:7 which implies that the Second Resurrection is 1000 years later and could have a second badge of righteous likewise.

 

In comparison, in these same chapters the Christian Salvation may have been Described in John 5 in John 5:24 – 25 without Judgment while in Daniel 12 as the “Wise who start to Shine like the Heavens with those who convert others to righteousness as the stars” at that time as Written in Daniel 12:3 instead.

 

 

 

 

Possibility here:

 

Daniel 12:2 = some non-Christians saved while some non-Christians condemned when they ‘rise simultaneously’ in the Second Resurrection

 

Daniel 12:3 = the Christians who are “Wise who start to Shine like the Heavens with those who convert others to righteousness as the stars” at that time during this Second Resurrection Timeline as they are already saved 1000 years earlier.

 

and likewise

 

John 5:24 – 25 = Christians who Rise at the “hour now is” (First hour of the Last Day without Judgment) to be part of the First Resurrection

 

John 5:28 – 29 = some non-Christians saved while some non-Christians condemned when they ‘rise simultaneously’ in the Second Resurrection at the “hour which is coming” on the ‘Last day’ (end of this day, separated by 1000 years).

 

If each word is to have a meaning, the phrase ” in “… the hour is coming, and now is,…” in the Verse “… the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. …” (John 5:25, NKJV) could refer to ‘those who live or saved‘ as:

 

1. i) ‘the hour now is’ (referring to the Last Day as it’s Resurrection Context) = START of the 1000 years Millennial Reign for the First Badge of Righteous = Christian Salvation

 

1. ii) i) ‘the hour is coming’ (referring to the Last Day as it’s Resurrection Context) = END of the 1000 years Millennial Reign into start of Judgment Day for second badge of righteous = non-Christian Salvation for some

 

The similar phrase “… the hour is coming, and now is,…” in John 4:23 in the Context of Worshipping God in “Spirit and Truth” may thus actually point to when we are Resurrected as these two badges of righteous only fully know the truth on ‘after their Resurrection’ as ‘no one knows everything fully from here as even Blessed Apostle St. Paul himself said he sees dimly only’ (in 1 Corinthians 13:12).

 

 

 

4) Some who are “thirsty” (thirsty most likely refers to not believing fully yet as per John 7:37 – 39 in comparison) are given the Water of Life only on Judgment Day as Revelation 21:6 Writes. It’s unlikely that Christians saved 1000 years earlier (as you claim too) are still thirsty for 1000 years as Christians thirst no more upon their Resurrection as implied clearly in the same John 7:37 – 39 itself.

 

Please note that the 1000 years Millennial Reign of Christ (Revelation 20:4 – 6) which all Christians participate according to 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 18 in one Gathering of the Elect happens on  the “Old Earth and Heavens” which is 1000 years before Judgment Day (Revelation 20:5, Revelation 20:7, Revelation 20:11 – 15).

 

In comparison, the ‘thirsty ones’ given the ‘water of life freely’ in Revelation 21:6 most likely cannot be the same ones who “overcome” as mentioned in Revelation 21:7 as the thirsty ones sounds like they are much lower whilst the one who “overcomes must have faith” in comparison of the word “Thirsty” which indicates lack of believing as per John 7:37 – 39 too and thus may not be the same group either.

 

In 1 Corinthians 15:39 – 42, it’s clear that there are two types of Resurrection bodies mentioned in the Context of the Resurrection of the Dead (1 Corinthians 15:42) namely the “Celestial” (Heavenly) Vs the “Terrestrial” (Earthly) of which I conjecture that the  Celestial one refers to Christians only because only they become one flesh with Christ (as Ephesians 5:25 – 27, 31 – 32 Reveals) while the rest are only earthly bodies as Christ does “not” become One Flesh with them as it’s only towards His Bride.

 

Please also notice very carefully in 1 Corinthians 15:40 that two types of “Glory” are mentioned for the final Resurrection Bodies namely “but the GLORY of the CELESTIAL is one,” Vs ” and the GLORY of the TERRESTRIAL is another.” (in 1 Corinthians 15:40).

 

 

 

 

 

Now the word “Glory” in “… GLORY of the TERRESTRIAL is another …” (mentioned clearly in 1 Corinthians 15:40) in this Context of “Resurrection of the Dead” (1 Corinthians 15:42)  itself indicates that some of the of the TERRESTRIAL RESURRECTION BODIES are also “Saved” for it doesn’t seem logical for a body raised with “glory” to be “unsaved“. To say that this “Terrestrial Glory” ones refers to some lower Christians contradicts Ephesians 5:25 – 27, 31 – 32 which describes Christ Sharing One Flesh with all Christians in some way and so they must be “CELESTIAL (Heavenly) RESURRECTION GLORY Bodies only“.

 

Also, in this Same Chapter the word “we” in “…  WE SHALL ALSO BEAR THE IMAGE of the HEAVENLY MAN. …” (1 Corinthians 15:49) refers only to “Christians”  who are called here as “Heavenly Man” meaning “CELESTIAL (Heavenly) RESURRECTION GLORY Bodies only” again so if some Christians have only “… GLORY of the TERRESTRIAL is another …” (1 Corinthians 15:40) type of Resurrection Body (1 Corinthians 15:42), it’s a clear contradiction.

 

Also the phrase here in 1 Corinthians 15:42 comparing these two types of Glory of Celestial (Heavenly) Vs Terrestrial (Earthly) as “another” clearly implies that these are speaking of two classes of Resurrection Bodies distinctly where the word “Glory” indicates these are among the “saved” most likely.

 

The Bible Verses in Revelation 21:24 – 27 also matches where they are called “NATIONS WHO ARE SAVED who have KINGS OF THE EARTH” (where the word “earth” refers to “Terrestrial” clearly in Revelation 21:24 – 27) and they visit the “Bride” (Heavenly/Celestial Christians, Revelation 21:9 – 10) through the Gates of that Heavenly Jerusalem which occurs clearly after Judgment Day (Revelation 20:11 – 15) when the Book of Life is Revealed (Revelation 21:27) which seem to point to these two “saved” groups as different.

 

Also Revelation 22:17 is the strongest evidence that these “thirsty ones” who are given the ‘Water of life freely’ at that time which is after Judgment Day as it’s only on the New Earth and Heavens (Revelation 21:1)  most likely cannot be Christians simply because “the Bride” (or Christians themselves) are calling toward them to take the Water of Life freely in Revelation 22:17  literally.

 

I could be wrong but reading these Verses literally seem to point this as a “possibility” and when God Reveals it One Day I accept it either way.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

A Rare Faith among Men – Mystery of Faith of Eunuchs in the Kingdom of Heaven

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161415395902784

 

1) Why is this important?

 

Perhaps (if not us), someone might be called to live such a life of faith for Christ whose faith is “not” normal but Described Mysteriously in Verses below that it’s even Greater than that of the usual “sons and daughters”, Verses (which are Written in the ‘Context of Final Salvation‘ and ‘God’s Righteousness to be Revealed’):

 

 

“…  1Thus SAYS THE LORD:

“Keep justice, and do righteousness,

For MY SALVATION IS ABOUT TO COME,

And My RIGHTEOUSNESS TO BE REVEALED.

2Blessed is the man who does this,

And the son of man who lays hold on it;

Who keeps from defiling the Sabbath,

And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

3Do not let the son of the foreigner

Who has joined himself to the Lord

Speak, saying,

“The Lord has utterly separated me from His people”;

NOR LET THE EUNUCH SAY,

“Here I am, a dry tree.”4For THUS SAYS THE LORD:

“TO THE EUNUCHS who keep my sabbaths,

And CHOOSE WHAT PLEASES ME,

And hold fast My covenant,

5Even to them I WILL GIVE IN MY HOUSE

And WITHIN MY WALLS A PLACE AND A NAME

BETTER THAN THAT OF SONS AND DAUGHTERS;

I will give [a]them AN EVERLASTING NAME

That SHALL NOT BE CUT OFF. …” (Isaiah 56:4 – 5, NKJV)

 

 

Comments:

 

0) Context: The Promises in these particular Set of Verses is “not” for every believer at that time even but only toward “EUNUCHS” (i.e. those who have Renounced Marriage for God in some way to Serve Him or some via Castrations) as God Himself Sets this Context in the Opening Lines here as “… 4For thus says the Lord: TO THE EUNUCHS  …”

 

1. The phrase “… BETTER THAN THAT OF SONS AND DAUGHTERS; …” seems to point to a really great inheritance in the Kingdom beyond the usual “sons and daughters of God (implied)”.

 

2. The phrase “… I WILL GIVE IN MY HOUSE And WITHIN MY WALLS A PLACE …” = Seem to Point to a “special Level of Heavenly Inheritance” above the usual one given to other saved “… SONS AND DAUGHTERS; …”

 

3. The phrase “… I WILL GIVE IN MY HOUSE And WITHIN MY WALLS … And A NAME …” = Seem to Point to a “special Level of Title/Rank” above the usual one given to other saved “… SONS AND DAUGHTERS; …”

 

4. The phrase “… I will give [a]them AN EVERLASTING NAME That SHALL NOT BE CUT OFF. …” means their above than usual Reward and Name in His Kingdom than the usual “… Sons and daughters …” is “not” a temporary reward nor a temporary “NAME GIVEN BY GOD” but a permanent and “EVERLASTING” one.

 

 

 

5. These Hidden Mysteries may have been known in the “Priestly” Context too in the Old Covenant itself even before these Verses in Isaiah were Written as per Verses below “in Principle” (or even “allegorically“):

 

“… And the PRIEST ANSWERED David and said, “There is NO COMMON BREAD on hand; but there is HOLY BREAD, if the young men have AT LEAST KEPT THEMSELVES FROM WOMEN.” …” (1 Samuel 21:4, NKJV)

 

2) Perhaps this has been echoed in this “Wisdom of Solomon” book likewise as God Quotes the Context of “… I WILL GIVE IN MY HOUSE And WITHIN MY WALLS A PLACE …” (in Isaiah 56:5) as follows:

 

“… [14] And BLESSED IS THE EUNUCH, which with his hands hath wrought no iniquity, nor imagined wicked things against God: for UNTO HIM SHALL BE GIVEN THE SPECIAL GIFT OF FAITH, and an INHERITANCE IN THE TEMPLE OF THE LORD more acceptable to his mind. …” (Wisdom of Solomon 3:14, KJV)

 

Source:

 

http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/text/wisdom.html

 

Another related Quote:

 

“… [1] BETTER IT IS TO HAVE NO CHILDREN, AND TO HAVE VIRTUE: for the MEMORIAL THEREOF IS IMMORTAL: because it is known with God, and with men. [2] When it is present, men take example at it; and when it is gone, they desire it: it weareth a crown, and triumpheth for ever, having gotten the victory, STRIVING FOR UNDEFILED REWARDS. ….” (Wisdom of Solomon 4:1 – 2, KJV)

 

Source:

 

http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/text/wisdom.html

 

 

3) Does it apply in the New Covenant?

 

This applied in the “Old Covenant” and similarly may be echoed in Principle in the New Covenant too (“not” according to the abolished parts of course but in obedience to the New Testament Verses) as Christ Himself may have Pointed to such a case in Verses below:

 

 

“… For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves EUNUCHS FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN’S SAKE. He who is ABLE TO ACCEPT IT, LET HIM ACCEPT IT.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:12, NKJV)

 

 

4) Is that the Reason why Blessed Apostle St. Paul himself echoed that “… He WISHED ALL MEN were LIKE THAT? …” Verses (for if there was “no” difference in a Heavenly or Spiritual Perspective, he may not have wished it):

 

 

“…  7For I WISH THAT ALL MEN WERE EVEN as I MYSELF. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. 8But I say to the UNMARRIED AND TO THE WIDOWS: IT IS GOOD FOR THEM IF THEY REMAIN EVEN AS I AM; 9but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. … 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have TROUBLE IN THE FLESH, but I WOULD SPARE YOU. … 32But I want you to be without care. He who is UNMARRIED CARES FOR THE THINGS OF THE LORD—how he may PLEASE THE LORD. 33But HE WHO IS MARRIED CARES about the THINGS OF THE WORLD—how he may PLEASE HIS WIFE. … 38So then he who GIVES HER IN MARRIAGE DOES WELL, but he WHO DOES NOT GIVE HER IN MARRIAGE DOES BETTER. …” (1 Corinthians 7:7 – 9, 28, 32 – 33, 38, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

 

5) The “Firstfruits” of Salvation (Holiest lot) itself belongs to a particular 144000 “unmarried Jewish Virgin Men” likewise proving this Context for such “Eunuchs” too:

 

“… 1Then I looked, and behold, [a]a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and WITH HIM ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY-FOUR THOUSAND, [b]having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. … . 3They SANG AS IT WERE A NEW SONG before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and NO ONE COULD LEARN THAT SONG except the HUNDRED AND FORTY-FOUR THOUSAND who were redeemed from the earth. 4These are the ones WHO WERE NOT DEFILED WITH WOMEN, FOR THEY ARE VIRGINS. These are the ones WHO FOLLOW THE LAMB WHEREVER HE GOES. These were [c]redeemed from among men, being FIRSTFRUITS to God and to the Lamb …” (Revelation 14:1, 3 – 4, NKJV)

 

6) The “Septuagint” reads the “same” meaning this Scripture is 100% True and Preserved

 

“… 4Thus SAITH THE LORD TO THE EUNUCHS, as many as shall keep my sabbaths, and CHOOSE THE THINGS WHICH I TAKE PLEASURE IN, and take hold of my covenant; 5I will GIVE TO THEM IN MY HOUSE and WITHIN MY WALLS AN HONOURABLE PLACE, BETTER THAN SONS AND DAUGHTERS: I will give them AN EVERLASTING NAME, and IT SHALL NOT FAIL. …” (Isaiah 56:4 – 5, Brenton Septuagint Translation)

Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/isaiah/56.htm

 

7) Example First Christianity Quotes

 

“… Now any one may object to this interpretation, and may give another which harmonizes with the rule of faith. For as the ark was to have rooms not only on the lower, but also on the upper storeys, which were called ” third storeys,” that there might be a habitable space on the third floor from the basement, some one may interpret these to mean the three graces commended by the apostle, — ^faith, hope, and charity. Or even more suitably they may be supposed to represent those THREE HARVESTS IN THE GOSPEL, THIRTYFOLD, SIXTYFOLD, AN HUNDREDFOLD, — CHASTE MARRIAGE DWELLING IN THE GROUND FLOOR, CHASTE WIDOWHOOD IN THE UPPER, AND CHASTE VIRGINITY IN THE TOP STOREY. Or any better interpretation may be given, so long as the reference to this city is maintained…” – Blessed St. Augustine of Hippo, Doctor of the Church, who influenced virtually all of subsequent Western philosophy and Catholic theology, as well as a significant amount of Protestant theology (c. 354 AD – c. 430 AD, Book XV, ‘City of God’, Page 99)

Source: https://archive.org/stream/cityofgodvolumet009439mbp/cityofgodvolumet009439mbp_djvu.txt

Or

 

“… For there are TWO WAYS IN LIFE, as touching these matters. The one the more moderate and ordinary, I mean MARRIAGE; THE OTHER ANGELIC AND UNSURPASSED, NAMELY VIRGINITY. Now if a man choose the way of the world, namely marriage, he is not indeed to blame; yet HE WILL NOT RECEIVE SUCH GREAT GIFTS AS THE OTHER. For he will receive, since he too BRINGS FORTH FRUIT, NAMELY THIRTYFOLD. But if a man embrace the holy and unearthly way, even though, as compared with the former, it be rugged and hard to accomplish, yet it has the more wonderful gifts: for IT GROWS THE PERFECT FRUIT, NAMELY AN HUNDREDFOLD…”  – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, Letter XLVIII.—Letter to Amun4583. Written before 354 AD via Philip Schaff, Pages 971 – 972)

 

Source:

 

http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/03d/1819-1893,_Schaff._Philip,_3_Vol_04_Athanasius,_EN.pdf

 

Or

 

“… And again THE LORD SAYS: Let the one who has married not be cast out, and let the one who HAS NOT MARRIED NOT MARRY. He who has confessed that he will NOT MARRY ACCORDING to HIS DECISION OF EUNUCHHOOD, LET HIM REMAIN UNMARRIED….” – Blessed St. Clement of Alexandria, Head of the Cathecathical School At Alexandria (c. 150 AD – c. 215 AD, Miscellanies 3.15)

 

Source for the “Agrapha ” Quote above (Agrapha Quote refers to ‘not’ in Bible Quote but attributed to Christ especially via Church Fathers):

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20080215124232/http://www.textexcavation.com/agrapha.html

 

 

 

Conclusion

 

If such a unique Reward occurred for those Eunuchs of the Old Testament, Christ Reassuring that there are Eunuchs likewise for the “Kingdom of Heaven” in the New Covenant allows such a “Reward in His Kingdom’s Inheritance” to be likewise applied to those who live by this Gift of Faith by God toward them.

 

I just find these Verses fascinating indeed and am intrigued much by it.

 

Please notice that Christ Himself Warned that “not” all are able to accept this Truth regarding “Eunuchs for the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN” but it’s True regardless because He Himself Said it below, I repeat:

 

“… [11But He said to them], “ALL CANNOT ACCEPT THIS SAYING, but ONLY THOSE TO WHOM IT HAS BEEN GIVEN: 12For there are [c]eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves EUNUCHS FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN’S SAKE. HE WHO IS ABLE TO ACCEPT IT, LET HIM ACCEPT IT.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:11 – 12, NKJV)

 

The “Definition of Eunuch” as Christ Himself Uses the Koine Greek Word above may be seen in the Bible Dictionary below which includes the “being Unmarried Context” too as a type of it, to quote:

 

“… Definition: a eunuch

Usage: (a) a chamberlain, keeper of the bed-chamber of an eastern potentate, eunuch, (b) a eunuch, castrated person, or ONE WHO VOLUNTARILY ABSTAINS FROM MARRIAGE. …”

 

Source:

 

https://biblehub.com/greek/2135.htm

 

So even if we couldn’t accept it, we need to Preach it for someone who could be “GIVEN” to “ACCEPT THIS Mysterious DOCTRINE for the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN’S SAKE” as Christ Teaches above.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mystery of Our own righteousness vs God’s Righteousness with Emphasis on the Life of Blessed Charles Spurgeon the Prince of Preachers

 

Bible Verses:

 

“… 2For I bear them witness that they have a ZEAL FOR GOD, but NOT ACCORDING TO KNOWLEDGE. 3For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and SEEKING TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS, have NOT SUBMITTED TO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. …” (Romans 10:2 – 3, NKJV)

 

 

Context/Meaning:

 

1) Salvation is only by Christ’s Righteousness and by Believing in Him.

 

2) The “your righteousness” Christ Spoke of in Matthew 5:19 – 20 determines ‘your reward level in the Kingdom of Heaven (for those saved)’ as it depends on “Obeying God’s Commands”.

 

3) In principle of Romans 10:2 which states “…  zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. …” if applied to “your righteousness” for ‘reward level in Heaven not Salvation’ (Matthew 5:19 – 20), then those faith that “… deny Written Commands …” may be doing “… their own righteousness instead of submitting to God’s Righteousness …” as some New Testament Verses have warned regarding “being crowned” (as finishing the race of faith itself doesn’t necessarily mean being “crowned”) unless one runs according to the “RULES specified in WRITTEN SCRIPTURE” as per Verses below:

 

 

 

1. i) No ‘Race of Faith’ is “Crowned” unless it’s “according to the Rules” or if they Teach against Scripture, it’s to the “… RUIN OF THE HEARERS. …” and the Context here is “God’s Commands in Action” (not ‘eschasthalogy’ or anything else), Verses:

 

“… 5And also if anyone competes in athletics, he is NOT CROWNED unless he COMPETES ACCORDING to THE RULES. … 14REMIND them of THESE THINGS, charging them before the Lord not to [d]strive about words to no profit, to the RUIN OF THE HEARERS. … ” (2 Timothy 2:5, 14, NKJV)

 

1. ii) There is “no” Race of Faith based on ‘obeying or doing things beyond what is Written only’ in New Testament Scripture:

 

“… that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be [c]puffed up on behalf of one against the other. … 14I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. 15For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16Therefore I URGE YOU, IMITATE ME. 17For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH. …” (1 Corinthians 4:4, 14 – 17, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

 

Examples:

 

1) Fearing God

 

Those who “Fear God” will do two things namely, “Give Alms” (Charity Doctrine) + “Pray Always”, Verses:

 

“… 1There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian [a]Regiment, 2a DEVOUT MAN and ONE WHO FEARED GOD with all his household, who GAVE ALMS GENEROUSLY to the people, and PRAYED TO GOD ALWAYS  …” (Acts 10:1 – 2, NKJV)

 

Comment: A True “Fear God Doctrine” will likewise Teach both aspects above namely:

 

1. GAVE ALMS GENEROUSLY (Charity Doctrine Lifestyle)
2. PRAYED TO GOD ALWAYS

 

Nothing else is mentioned in these Verses meaning these are the “First Definitions” of “Fearing God” which the “Bible has approved its Meaning as it is Written“.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) Disobedience

 

Inability to Obey (“Keep” His Words or Keep “His Sayings”) may cause “Many” to be “Denied” from the “First Resurrection” as it’s LAWLESSNESS despite “Converting that same Many based on Casting out Demons, Prophesying and Miracles in His Name“, Verses:

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

3) Holy Spirit

 

The Sign of the Most Blessed Holy Spirit is “how much of His Commands we can keep” and ‘not’ everyone has the ‘other Gifts’ where the Greatest Gift is “Love” (Agape in Action), Verses:

 

“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY*. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)

 

*of “Agape” (Love of God) as 1 Corinthians 13 Revealed next to Verses above while in Verses below it’s the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’:

 

 

“… 16By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:10 – 18, NKJV)

 

“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

Comment: If ‘Casting out Demons, Miracles, Prophecies’ were keeping His Commandments, then it “contradicts” 1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30 above which states that these “Gifts” (though Good) but are “not” for all believers (meaning it cannot be the Commandments meant for every believer).

 

 

Comment: If some claim some new ways against ‘Written Scripture Rules’, “no” need to be harsh in condemning them either because we are “not” sure if God Showed them a ‘new way‘ and so better not to judge (Matthew 7:1 – 2).

 

But we remind them also “not” to force “nor” disturb us to “accept their new ways” simply because the “First Way of Scripture by obeying these Quotes New Testament Verses is already approved by God 100% and has ZERO CONDEMNATION if we obey it”, examples:

 

1. ‘women pastors presiding over their men’ against 1 Timothy 2:12

 

“… 10but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works. 11Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12And I DO NOT PERMIT A WOMAN TO TEACH OR TO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER A MAN, BUT TO BE IN SILENCE. …” (1 Timothy 2:10 – 12, NKJV)

 

 

or No silence of women in their congregations against 1 Corinthians 14:34

 

“… 34WOMEN  SHOULD REMAIN SILENT IN THE CHURCHES. They are NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK, but must be in SUBMISSION, as the law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is DISGRACEFUL FOR A WOMAN TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH. 36Or did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37If anyone thinks they are a PROPHET or otherwise GIFTED BY THE SPIRIT, let them ACKNOWLEDGE that what I am WRITING to you is the LORD’S COMMAND. 38But IF ANYONE IGNORES THIS, THEY WILL THEMSELVES BE IGNORED …” (1 Corinthians 14:34 – 38, NIV)

 

Comment: These I have discussed in Pages 440 to 466 in this Book quoting the best Protestants including Blessed Martin Luther (the First Protestant),  Blessed John Calving (Founder of 5-Point Calvinism/Tulips Doctrine), Blessed John Wesley (Founder of Methodism) and even Blessed Charles Spurgeon (Prince of Preachers).

 

Please allow me to quote “Blessed Charles Spurgeon” alone here for a short example quote here (more quotes are in those pages mentioned):

 

“… But this commitment also meant that in areas where Scripture was clear, Spurgeon dared not trespass, no matter where his enlightened culture was going. In his sermon, “The Head of the Church,” Spurgeon declared,

 

When we meet together in church-meeting we cannot make laws for the Lord’s kingdom; we dare not attempt it. Such necessary regulations as may be made for carrying out our Lord’s commands, to meet for worship, and to proclaim the gospel, are commendable, because they are acts needful to obedience to his highest laws; but even these minor details are not tolerable if they clearly violate the spirit and mind of Jesus Christ. . . . Law-making in the church was finished in that day when the curse was pronounced on him who should take from or add to the word of God. Christ alone is the legislator of his church—none but he . . . has left to us his Statute-book, sufficient to guide us in every dilemma. …

 

or

 

Spurgeon believed that the preaching of the Word in the gathering of the church was restricted to men, along with the office of elders and deacons. At the same time, his predominant emphasis was on calling women to engage in ministry in all the other ways that were available to them.

 

When it came to the gathering of the church, Spurgeon believed that, according to Scripture, women were not to preach. Preaching on Matthew 8:14, 15, “First Healing and the Service,” Spurgeon commends the example of Peter’s mother-in-law:

 

But notice that what this good woman did was very appropriate. Peter’s wife’s mother did not get out of bed and go down the street and deliver an address to an assembled multitude. Women are best when they are quiet. I share the apostle Paul’s feelings when he bade women be silent in the assembly. Yet there is work for holy women, and we read of Peter’s wife’s mother that she arose and ministered to Christ. She did what she could and what she should. She arose and ministered to him. Some people can do nothing that they are allowed to do, but waste their energies in lamenting that they are not called on to do other people’s work. Blessed are they who do what they should do. It is better to be a good housewife, or nurse, or domestic servant, than to be a powerless preacher or a graceless talker. …”

 

Source (via Mr. Alex DiPrima is the Senior Pastor of Emmanuel Church in Winston Salem, NC. He holds a PhD from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in historical theology with an emphasis in the ministry of Charles Spurgeon & Mr. Geoff Chang serves as an assistant professor of church history and historical theology and is also the curator of the Spurgeon Library at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary):

 

https://www.9marks.org/article/charles-spurgeon-womens-ministry-and-female-preachers/

 

 

Why?

 

Because despite teaching all these ‘strict Doctrine’, historical records Testify that Blessed Charles Spurgeon was used to do Miracles by God more than others and SO THEIR CLAIMS of HAVING SOME SPECIAL GIFTS only if WE DENY THESE BIBLE VERSES IS BASELESS (and hence the title ‘Prince of Preachers’ was conferred to him on account of his most widespread influence till today in Protestantism too), to quote:

 

1. a) Charles Spurgeon may have been used by GOD to HEAL MORE PEOPLE in MIRACLES despite all these ‘STRICT DOCTRINES he Preached and Believed’, to quote:

 

“… “Yet, NO MAN PROBABLY, IN ENGLAND or in AMERICA, IN THIS CENTURY, HAS EVER HEALED SO MANY PEOPLE as did MR. SPURGEON, although he was not himself a physician and never wrote prescriptions. He felt that there was UNEXPLAINABLE MYSTERY ABOUT THE WHOLE MATTER. Yet, he asserted that there was SOME POWER CONNECTED WITH PRAYER which ought to be used when persons were in pain and could be relieved by it.” from “The Life of Charles Haddon Spurgeon” by Russell H. Conwell. …”

 

Source (with more details):  https://www.healingandrevival.com/BioCHSpurgeon.htm

 

1. b) Charles Spurgeon Taught that ANY CHRISTIAN can Baptize not just particular chuches/pastors/denominations:

 

“… Oh, I would that the church could hear the Savior addressing these words to her now, for the words of Christ are living words, not having power in them yesterday alone, but today also. The injunctions of the Savior are perpetual in their obligation, they were not binding upon merely apostles, but upon us also, and upon EVERY CHRISTIAN does this yoke fall, “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING THEM in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.”  …” – Blessed Charles Spurgeon (Prince of Preachers, On April 21, 1861, Charles Spurgeon delivered a sermon titled “The Missionaries’ Charge and Charter” (#383) addressing the core of the missionary task.)

 

Source:

https://www.abwe.org/blog/charles-spurgeon-how-fulfill-great-commission-troubled-times

 

1. c) Charles Spurgeon was “never” officially a “an ordained pastor nor priest” for any denomination

 

“… Baptists had a long tradition of ordaining ministers, for example, but Spurgeon managed to get his church to omit this step—he never was ordained. He campaigned arduously to do without the customary title, Reverend, and he eventually succeeded in replacing it with Pastor. …”

 

Source: https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-29/what-did-spurgeon-believe.html

 

1. d) Charles Spurgeon is the No.1 most influential Christian History apart from Bible ones

 

“… Charles Haddon Spurgeon is history’s most widely read preacher (apart from the biblical ones). Today, there is available more material written by Spurgeon than by any other Christian author, living or dead. …”

 

Source: https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-29/charles-h-spurgeon-did-you-know.html

 

1. e) Charles Spurgeon didn’t believe in Speaking in Tongues nor in Progressive Revelations

 

Charles Spurgeon is a little harsh in his words toward those who speak in tongues but we need “not” judge either way (just using this to prove that true Men of God didn’t endorse it at all too throughout the Protestant Reformation), example in link below:

 

“… “I have heard many fanatical persons say the Holy Spirit revealed this and that to them. Now that is very generally revealed nonsense. The Holy Ghost does not reveal anything fresh now. He brings old things to our remembrance. “He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have told you.” The canon of revelation is closed; there is no more to be added. God does not give a fresh revelation, but he rivets the old one. When it has been forgotten, and laid in the dusty chamber of our memory, he fetches it out and cleans the picture, but does not paint a new one. There are no new doctrines, but the old ones are often revived. It is not, I say, by any new revelation that the Spirit comforts. He does so by telling us old things over again; he brings a fresh lamp to manifest the treasures hidden in Scripture; he unlocks the strong chests in which the truth had long lain, and he points to secret chambers filled with untold riches; but he coins no more, for enough is done. Believer! there is enough in the Bible for thee to live upon for ever.” …” – Blessed Charles Spurgeon (Prince of Preachers)

 

Source (official Spurgeon Pages):

 

https://hearspurgeon.com/5-2

 

or

 

https://www.spurgeon.org/resource-library/sermons/the-comforter/

 

We can be neutral and not support either Christianity in this Context if we are not sure as discussed in detail in post below to be ‘safe’ and ‘not accidentally speak any Blasphemy to the Holy Spirit’ either way:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160853112937784

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

iii. Post Tribulation  Rapture

 

Protestant reformers such as Martin Luther, John  Calvin, Charles Spurgeon, William Tyndale, John Wesley and others all taught “post-tribulation rapture only likewise” link:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160859868082784

or

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160859818692784

 

 

I have discussed the quotes from these ‘same Protestant Founders’ in Pages 224 to 230 (from free pdf Book titled’ Christian Perfection’) below quoting in detail these “Post-Tribulation Rapture” quotes by these greats in those pages:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QUjb1K0SLoxJ6E3Zo5oWY0_RH8FCPloP/view?usp=sharing

 

Also, Logic: Please read both sides before deciding your belief/faith accordingly for reward if right One Day by God as per post in link below:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161407047987784

 

Background: In the Thesis below (on Pages 83/72 till Pages 96/85), the author seems to propose some type of “Pre-Tribulation/Mid-Tribulation Rapture” theory by quoting some early Christian Writings which we have quoted too (and you may ‘compare both and decide for yourselves which is right’):

 

https://digitalshowcase.oru.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1001&context=cotm_pub

 

Note: The other parts of the Thesis is irrelevant as if these earliest writings (especially St. Irenaeous’ Teach differently), what are the chances that others are going to be right? Safe Route: I follows St. Irenaeous’ in this too as usual.

 

If really keen, please read around Page 500 in free book in link below where I discuss these other quotes likewise as well (and you can compare both sides):

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kz5fi19txCkQOdmPX5bJ0UwNWV6ZhgVR/view?usp=sharing

 

 

1. Absence of the Charity Doctrine

 

Some Christians have ‘no Charity Doctrine to fulfill the Justice and Love of God part against Luke 11:39 – 42’s Christ Exhortation to do so as He Commanded “…These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone …” which I have discussed throughout these quoted books in links even with Bible Verses.

 

Here is Blessed Charles Spurgeon (the ‘Prince of Preachers’ himself whom we quoted in “point ii earlier”) in “Action” regarding this “Charity Doctrine”, to quote:

 

“… In 1876, 22 years after becoming pastor, Spurgeon published “The Metropolitan Tabernacle: Its History and Work”.[18] His intention stated in the preface is to give a ‘printed history of the Tabernacle’.The book has 15 chapters and of these 5 are given over to what he called ‘Societies and Institutions’.

 

Metropolitan Tabernacle Almshouse

The Five Chapters are:

 

1. The Almshouses. Explaining how the New Park Street Chapel site was sold to allow the Tabernacle to build an Almshouse and school.

 

 

Stockwell_Orphanage_1876

xiii. The Stockwell Orphanage. This opened for 240 boys in 1867 (and later for girls in 1879). These orphanages continued in London until they were bombed in the Second World War. The inspiration for starting an orphanage came from a visit with George Muller.[19][20][21] The orphanage changed its name to Spurgeon’s Child Care in 1937,[22] and again in 2005 to Spurgeons.[23][24] Spurgeon was linked more with the Stockwell orphanage than any other Metropolitan Tabernacle endeavour. There are probably four reasons for this:

 

1. It was a large set of buildings in London occupying four acres. 2. There was an annual fundraiser at which Spurgeon chose to celebrate his birthday,[25] and often the laying of a foundation stone.[26] The event was called ‘one of the largest bazaars and fancy fairs ever held in South London’[27] – in one day 1,000 was raised [28] – a lot considering entry was sixpence.[29] Spurgeon accepted money gifts for his birthday, which all went to the orphanage.[30] 3. The Orphanage choir and bell ringers performed concerts to fundraise [31] 4. It had such a large operating budget compared with other Tabernacle activities.

 

xiiv. The Colportage Association. Colporters were employed to take Bibles, good books and periodicals for sale, from house to house. They also were involved in visiting the sick and holding meetings.

 

105. Other Institutions Connected with the Tabernacle. Here Spurgeon describes 21 other ‘Institutions’. Two examples are: The Ordinance Poor Fund which distributed money amongst poor members of the church of about £800 annually, and the Ladies’ Benevolent Society. This group made clothing for the poor and ‘relieved’ them, with an income of £105.

 

Eight years later at Spurgeon’s fiftieth birthday celebration an updated list of ‘Societies and Institutions’ was read out.[32] With Spurgeon’s strong encouragement and support the 24 groups listed in ‘The Metropolitan Tabernacle: Its History and Work’, had become 69. Before they are read out Spurgeon says: “I think everybody should know what the church has been moved to do, and I beg to say that there are other societies besides those which will be mentioned, but you will be tired before you get to the end of them.” and finishes after the list by saying: “We have need to praise God that he enables the church to carry on all these institutions.”

 

…

 

Spurgeon had one Infirmary built, at the Stockwell Orphanage. However, he also recognised that the poor had limited access to health care and so was also an enthusiastic supporter of the Metropolitan Hospital Sunday Fund. He left us this quote:[35]

 

 

The Stockwell Orphanage Infirmary

 

We must have more hospitals. I do not know whether we shall not be obliged to make the Government spend something in this direction. I don’t believe in the Government doing anything well. I generally feel sorry when anything has to be left to the Government. I don’t mean this Government in particular, but any Government which may be in office for the time being. It is six of one and half-a-dozen of the other. I have a very small opinion of the whole lot. There are some things which we should try ourselves to do as long as ever we can; but if we are driven up a corner, it may come to what I fear. Bones must be set, and the sick must be cared for; the poor must not be left to die, in order not to have to go to the Government for help. So let us all try to give what we can. It is your duty to give, not merely as Christians, but as men. I like the Hospital Sunday movement, for all Christian people can meet, as we are met here to-night, on one platform.

 

…”

 

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Spurgeon

 

 

4) Written Commandments

 

Any walk of being “Closer to God” involves more of “His Commands” as the Sign of “His Love” (and so the reverse may be true in that the ‘inability to keep the “Written” Commands of the Lord, e.g. 1 Corinthians 14:37 may be dangerous or lacks love back toward God, Let God Decide), Verses:

 

“… IF YOU LOVE ME, KEEP [Obey] MY COMMANDMENTS. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:15, NKJV)

 

“… 23JESUS ANSWERED and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will KEEP MY WORD; and MY FATHER WILL LOVE HIM, and WE WILL COME TO HIM and MAKE OUR HOME WITH HIM. 24He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me. …” (John 14:23 – 24, NKJV)

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the LEAST of THESE COMMANDMENTS, and TEACHES men so, shall be called LEAST in the kingdom of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES AND TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

“… 46“But WHY DO YOU CALL ME ‘LORD, LORD,’ and NOT DO THE THINGS WHICH I SAY? 47Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:46 – 48, NKJV)

 

“… 18And JESUS CAME AND SPOKE TO THEM, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. …” (Matthew 28:18 – 20, NKJV)

 

“… 13MAKING THE WORD OF GOD OF NO EFFECT THROUGH YOUR TRADITION which you have handed down. And many such things you do.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:13, NKJV)

 

Not all Disobedience to the “Written Word” Leads to “Denial” as ‘there is a sin NOT leading to Death’ (which is difficult to expound because the “Written” Bible Verses didn’t expound further) and so let’s just Warn people based on Verses above and ‘Let God Alone do the Judging part’, Verses:

 

“… 16If anyone SEES HIS BROTHER SINNING A SIN WHICH DOES NOT LEAD TO DEATH, HE WILL ASK, and HE WILL GIVE HIM LIFE FOR THOSE WHO COMMIT SIN NOT LEADING TO DEATH. THERE IS SIN LEADING TO DEATH. I do NOT say that he should pray about that. 17All unrighteousness is sin, and THERE IS SIN NOT LEADING TO DEATH. …” (1 John 5:16 – 17, NKJV)

 

Your Job is Done after ‘Preaching the Bible Verses’ for “His Commands” part:

 

“… When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you shall surely die!’ and YOU DO NOT SPEAK TO WARN THE WICKED FROM HIS WAY, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; BUT HIS BLOOD I WILL REQUIRE AT YOUR HAND. Nevertheless IF YOU WARN the WICKED to TURN FROM HIS WAY, and he does not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but YOU HAVE DELIVERED YOUR SOUL. …” (Ezekiel 33:8 – 9, NKJV)

 

 

Peace to you

 

Who has Relationship with God?

 

Question

 

“Children of God Vs Children of the Devil are differentiated by their works.”

 

As a point of clarity, Scripture indicates that the children of God are those who have a relationship with God whereas the children of the Devil do not and are also referred to in Scripture as children of wrath. The children of God are those who have repented and put their trust in Christ.

 

There is no amount of good deeds that a child of the Devil can do to earn a relationship with God.  If such a relationship could be earned by works of charity (or earned at all), then God would be obligated to enter into a relationship with that person independent of Christ, which would indicate that Christ’s sacrifice was unnecessary – which is impossible.

 

Reply

 

There is no relationship with God without the good deeds as these Verses proves as without fruit it’s just empty words.

 

… 10In this the CHILDREN OF GOD and THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL are manifest: Whoever DOES NOT PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS is not of God, NOR IS HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE HIS BROTHER. 11For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? BECAUSE HIS WORKS WERE EVIL AND HIS BROTHER’S RIGHTEOUS. … 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3: 10 – 12, 16 – 18, NKJV)

 

No more amount of “words” will prove a “relationship with God” as compared to “works” , holiness +  ‘Charity Doctrine Works’ clearly is proved in these Verses (“Context”) as “it is Written”.

 

Comment Based on Post in link below:

 

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161425622802784/

 

Peace to you

 

 

Antichrist’s Deception will “not” be in smart-words but SIGNS and WONDERS and against NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161428100167784

 

Bible Verses:

 

“… 7For the [d]mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only [e]He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9The coming of the lawless one is ACCORDING TO THE WORKING OF SATAN, WITH ALL POWER, SIGNS, AND LYING WONDERS, 10and WITH ALL UNRIGHTEOUS DECEPTION among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this reason God will send them STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE THE LIE, 12that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. …” (2 Thessalonians 2:7 – 12, NKJV)

 

1. What are the Methods the “Antichrist” (the “son of Lawlessness”) use to deceive?

 

“… ACCORDING TO THE WORKING OF SATAN, WITH ALL POWER, SIGNS, AND LYING WONDERS,  …”

 

2. Will the Antichrist Preach ‘holiness or good works or righteousness’ to deceive? It doesn’t seem so as he will use “unrighteousness”:

 

“… 10and WITH ALL UNRIGHTEOUS DECEPTION …”

 

3. This Final Antichrist Time and Deception is called the “STRONG DELUSION THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE THE LIE, ” and those who fall for it “… had PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. …” either secretly or publicly.

 

 

4. The Book of Revelation even shows that during the last 42 months (3.5 years) of his reign, the “Beast” (Antichrist) will even seem like to have “Risen from the dead” (though he didn’t really die) deceiving many where the “saints” will lose to him being persecuted and killed for their faith (Verses):

 

“… The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3And I saw one of his heads as if it HAD BEEN MORTALLY WOUNDED, and HIS DEADLY WOUND WAS HEALED. And ALL THE WORLD MARVELED and FOLLOWED THE BEAST. 4So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and THEY WORSHIPED THE BEAST, SAYING, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” 5And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to [c]CONTINUE FOR FORTY-TWO MONTHS. 6Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. 7It was granted to him to MAKE WAR WITH THE SAINTS AND TO OVERCOME THEM. And authority was given him over every [d]tribe, tongue, and nation. 8All who DWELL ON THE EARTH WILL WORSHIP HIM, WHOSE NAMES HAVE NOT BEEN WRITTEN in the BOOK OF LIFE of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 10He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. HERE IS THE [E]PATIENCE AND THE FAITH OF THE SAINTS. …” (Revelation 13:3 – 10, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

 

Did Blessed Apostle St. Paul Write in this same set of Consecutive Verses (same Topic, same Context) regarding how to “not” fall into the Antichrist’s “lie” and “deception” in 2 Thessalonians 2 itself?

 

Yes, he did but strangely some preachers only Preach the Verses above without mentioning the Verses below which were Written in the Bible during this discussion as follows:

 

“… 13But we are [f]bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning CHOSE YOU FOR SALVATION THROUGH [g]SANCTIFICATION BY THE SPIRIT and BELIEF IN THE TRUTH, 14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, STAND FAST AND HOLD THE TRADITIONS WHICH YOU WERE TAUGHT, WHETHER BY WORD OR OUR [H]EPISTLE. 16Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting consolation and good hope by grace, 17comfort your hearts and [i]ESTABLISH YOU IN EVERY GOOD WORD AND WORK. …” (2 Thessalonians 2:13 – 17, NKJV)

Comments:

 

1) Salvation is by “Sanctification and belief in Truth”

 

“… CHOSE YOU FOR SALVATION THROUGH [g]SANCTIFICATION BY THE SPIRIT and BELIEF IN THE TRUTH …”

 

2) The “Truth” by which these True Christians who don’t fall into the deceptions of the “son of Lawlessness or Antichrist” described in earlier verses including the “…  11And for this reason God will send them STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE THE LIE,…” is Described here as follows

 

“… 15Therefore, brethren, STAND FAST AND HOLD THE TRADITIONS WHICH YOU WERE TAUGHT, WHETHER BY WORD OR OUR [H]EPISTLE. …”

 

Can you see it please as “it is Written”?

 

Those who don’t fall for the lies/delusions of signs and wonders too are the same ones who will hold to the “Truth” Described here as the WRITTEN in EPISTLES (LETTERS) or VERBAL New Testament TRADITIONS which some Churches today don’t obey as I have discussed that regardless if ‘God showed them new modern ways’, I do “not” need to follow them but rather it’s safer to follow the WRITTEN NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS which is already 100% Accepted and Approved by God as detailed out in pages 587 to 602 in this book itself  (the free pdf book in link below titled “Mystery of the Kingdom of Heaven”):

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p7I45y8puwfyL4Ev1izPKvm0XQ6I551P/view?usp=sharing

 

In short, the “Truth” is “not” described here as some abstract Eschatologies nor as some ‘new unwritten ways’ but simply as the NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS which refers to GOD’S COMMANDS such as HOLINESS + the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE (with PRAYER too) or even CHURCH ORDER COMMANDS for both the GATHERING ASPECT and also AUTHORITY ASPECT as many New Testament Verses Testify clearly as “it is Written“.

 

“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

Regarding the “VERBAL” TRADITIONS which Apostle Paul mentions here to keep, the Roman Catholics/Orthodox often use this same Verse to claim ‘Praying to Virgin Mary + other things’. However, I beg to differ. For me, I only accept the “VERBAL TRADITIONS” which are “NOT” Written in New Testament Traditions only if they are found AMONG THE APOSTOLIC FATHRES’S WRITINGS which certainly includes the CHARITY DOCTRINE as discussed in the other book titled “Eternal Hell Annihilation and Universalism in Christianity – Can all three be true A Look with the Apostolic Fathers” (Completed 24 December 2021) in pdf (free download/viewing) in link below:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N5bK-LoBAg4VQN8eLtVWsqkQyoGE0Ad_/view?usp=sharing

 

*Please note that NONE of them have Written the ‘Pray to Virgin Mary Tradition’ and the APOSTOLIC FATHER’S WRITINGS COULD NOT have MISSED ANY ESSENTIAL DOCTRINE especially when taken COLLECTIVELY – also this missing part of ‘Pray to Virgin Mary Tradition’ itself proves that the Roman Catholics/Orthodox did “NOT” tamper with it as someone only changes something to look more like their beliefs. Can you see it?

 

3) Another sign of those “sanctified and believe in the Truth” to be saved is clearly described here as they will be busy in  “… 17comfort your hearts and [i]ESTABLISH YOU IN EVERY GOOD WORD AND WORK. …” meaning “Good Works and Good Words (e.g. the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ in action and encouraging others to do it) is OBEYING or FULFILLING these part of Verses too.

 

May God keep us Safe from the Delusions of the Antichrist.

 

 

Peace to you

 

Knowledge increases Rewards but Salvation is always evidenced by its “Fruit” namely “Good Works + Holiness” together by “relative measure” as John the Baptist himself declared “bear fruits worthy of repentance” (Luke 3:8, Matthew 3:8).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mystery of the Twelve Mountains in the Shepherd of Hermas – The Twelve Type of Christians

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161431786292784

 

“…  I said, “explain to me the POWER AND THE ACTIONS of EACH ONE OF THE MOUNTAINS, that every soul, trusting in the Lord, and hearing it, may GLORIFY HIS GREAT, and MARVELLOUS, and GLORIOUS NAME.” “Hear,” he said, “THE DIVERSITY OF THE MOUNTAINS and OF THE TWELVE NATIONS. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XVIII)

 

0) Introduction

 

I have explained in detail regarding the “Shepherd of Hermas” Writing how it was Scripture in much of First Christianity and today it’s one of the “Apostolic Fathers’ Writing” in pages 61 to 71 in the Book titled “Eternal Hell Annihilation and Universalism in Christianity – Can all three be true A Look with the Apostolic Fathers” (Completed 24

December 2021) in pdf (free download/viewing) in link below:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N5bK-LoBAg4VQN8eLtVWsqkQyoGE0Ad_/view?usp=sharing

 

In the “Ninth Similitude”, we find an interesting description of the “Twelve Mountains” where it parabolically describes the “Different types of Christians who will inherit a place in the Tower of Repentance or Elect Salvation”. Let’s look at each separately and briefly below (more details for each class of Christians described in the mentioned link):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1) 1st & 2nd Mountain

 

“… “From the FIRST MOUNTAIN, which was black, they that believed are the following: apostates and blasphemers against the Lord, and betrayers of the servants of God. TO THESE REPENTANCE IS NOT OPEN; but death lies before them … And from the SECOND MOUNTAIN, which was bare, THEY WHO BELIEVED ARE THE FOLLOWING: hypocrites, and teachers of wickedness. And these, accordingly, are like the former, NOT HAVING ANY FRUITS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS; for as their mountain was destitute of fruit, so also such men have a name indeed, but are empty of faith, and there is no fruit of truth in them. THEY INDEED HAVE REPENTANCE in their power, if they repent quickly;  … “Why, sir,” I said, “have these repentance, but the former not? for their actions are nearly the same.” “On this account,” he said, “have these repentance, because they did not blaspheme their Lord, nor become betrayers of the servants of God; but ON ACCOUNT OF THEIR DESIRE OF POSSESSIONS THEY BECAME HYPOCRITICAL, and EACH ONE TAUGHT ACCORDING TO THE DESIRES OF MEN THAT WERE SINNERS. But they will suffer a certain punishment; and repentance is before them, because they were not blasphemers or traitors. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XIX)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

2) 3rd Mountain

 

“… And from THE THIRD MOUNTAIN, which had thorns and thistles, THEY WHO BELIEVED are the following. There ARE SOME OF THEM RICH, and others IMMERSED IN MUCH BUSINESS. The thistles are the rich, and the thorns are they who are immersed in much business. Those, [accordingly, who are entangled in many various kinds of business, do not ] cleave to the servants of God, but wander away, being choked by their business transactions; and the rich cleave with difficulty to the servants of God, FEARING LEST THESE SHOULD ASK SOMETHING OF THEM. Such persons, accordingly, shall have DIFFICULTY IN ENTERING THE KINGDOM OF GOD. But to all these repentance, and that speedy, is open, in order that what they did not do in former times they may make up for in these days, and DO SOME GOOD, AND THEY SHALL LIVE UNTO GOD. But if they abide in their deeds, they shall be delivered to those women, who will put them to death. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XX)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

 

3) 4th Mountain

 

“… And from the FOURTH MOUNTAIN, which had much grass, the upper parts of the plants green, and the parts about the roots withered, and some also scorched by the sun, THEY WHO BELIEVED are the following: THE DOUBTFUL, AND THEY WHO HAVE THE Lord UPON THEIR LIPS, BUT HAVE HIM NOT IN THEIR HEART. On this account their foundations are withered, and have no strength; and their words alone live, while their works are dead. Such persons are [neither alive nor ] dead. They resemble, therefore, the waverers: for the wavering are neither withered nor green, being neither living nor dead. For as their blades, on seeing the sun, were withered, so also the wavering, when they hear of affliction, on account of their fear, worship idols, and are ashamed of the name of their Lord. Such, then, are neither alive nor dead. But these also may yet live, if they repent quickly; and if they do not repent, they are already delivered to the women, who take away their life. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXI)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

4) 5th Mountain

 

“… And from the FIFTH MOUNTAIN, which had green grass, and was rugged, THEY WHO BELIEVED are the following: BELIEVERS, INDEED, BUT SLOW TO LEARN, and OBSTINATE, and PLEASING THEMSELVES, wishing to know everything, and knowing nothing at all. On account of this obstinacy of theirs, understanding departed from them, and foolish senselessness entered into them. And they PRAISE THEMSELVES AS HAVING WISDOM, and desire to become teachers, although destitute of sense. On account, therefore, of this loftiness of mind, many became vain, exalting themselves: for SELF-WILL AND EMPTY CONFIDENCE IS A GREAT DEMON. Of these, accordingly, MANY WERE REJECTED, but SOME REPENTED AND BELIEVED, and subjected themselves to those that had understanding, knowing their own foolishness. And to the REST OF THIS CLASS REPENTANCE IS OPEN; FOR THEY WERE NOT WICKED, BUT RATHER FOOLISH, and without understanding. If these THEREFORE REPENT, THEY WILL LIVE UNTO GOD; but IF THEY DO NOT REPENT, they shall have their dwelling with the women who wrought wickedness among them. …”  – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXII)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

 

5) 6th Mountain

 

“… “And those from the SIXTH MOUNTAIN, which had clefts large and small, and decayed grass in the clefts, WHO BELIEVED, were the following: they who occupy the small clefts are those WHO BRING CHARGES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, and by reason of their slanders have decayed in the faith. MANY OF THEM, HOWEVER, REPENTED; and the REST ALSO WILL REPENT WHEN THEY HEAR MY COMMANDMENTS, FOR THEIR SLANDERS ARE SMALL, and they will quickly repent. But they who occupy the large clefts are persistent in their slanders, and vindictive in their anger against each other. These, therefore, were thrown away from the tower, and rejected from having a part in its building. Such persons, accordingly, shall have difficulty in living. If our God and Lord, who rules over all things, and has power over all His creation, does not remember evil against those who confess their sins, but is merciful, does man, who is corruptible and full of sins, REMEMBER EVIL AGAINST A FELLOW-MAN, AS IF HE WERE ABLE TO DESTROY OR TO SAVE HIM? I, the angel of repentance, say unto you, As many of you as are of this way of thinking, lay it aside, and REPENT, AND THE LORD WILL HEAL YOUR FORMER SINS, IF YOU PURIFY YOURSELVES FROM THIS DEMON; BUT IF NOT, YOU WILL BE DELIVERED OVER TO HIM FOR DEATH. …”  – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXIII)

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

6) 7th Mountain

 

“… And THOSE WHO BELIEVED FROM the SEVENTH MOUNTAIN, on which the grass was green and flourishing, and the whole of the mountain fertile, and every kind of cattle and the fowls of heaven were feeding on the grass on this mountain, and the grass on which they pastured became more abundant, were the following: THEY WERE ALWAYS SIMPLE, AND HARMLESS, and BLESSED, BRINGING NO CHARGES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER, but always rejoicing greatly because of the servants of God, and BEING CLOTHED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT of THESE VIRGINS, AND ALWAYS HAVING PITY on EVERY MAN, AND GIVING AID FROM THEIR OWN LABOUR TO EVERY MAN, WITHOUT REPROACH AND WITHOUT HESITATION. The Lord, therefore, seeing their simplicity and all their meekness, multiplied them amid the labours of their hands, and gave them grace in all their doings. And I, the angel of repentance, say to you who are such, CONTINUE TO BE SUCH AS THESE, and YOUR SEED WILL NEVER BE BLOTTED OUT; FOR THE LORD HAS MADE TRIAL OF YOU, AND INSCRIBED YOU IN THE NUMBER OF US, and THE WHOLE OF YOUR SEED WILL DWELL WITH THE SON OF GOD; FOR YE HAVE RECEIVED OF HIS SPIRIT. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXIV)

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

Comment: This is a heavy emphasis on the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle“.

7) 8th Mountain

 

“… And THEY WHO BELIEVED FROM THE EIGHTH MOUNTAIN, where were the many fountains, and where all the creatures of God drank of the fountains, WERE THE FOLLOWING: APOSTLES, and TEACHERS, WHO PREACHED TO THE WHOLE WORLD, and WHO TAUGHT SOLEMNLY AND PURELY THE WORD OF THE LORD, and DID NOT AT ALL FALL INTO EVIL DESIRES, but walked always in righteousness and truth, according as they had received the Holy Spirit. SUCH PERSONS, therefore, SHALL ENTER IN WITH THE ANGELS. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXV)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

 

 

8) 9th Mountain

 

“… “And THEY WHO BELIEVED FROM THE NINTH MOUNTAIN, which was deserted, and had in it creeping things and wild beasts which destroy men, were the following: they who had the stains as servants, WHO DISCHARGED THEIR DUTY ILL, and WHO PLUNDERED WIDOWS AND ORPHANS OF THEIR LIVELIHOOD, AND GAINED POSSESSIONS FOR THEMSELVES FROM THE MINISTRY, WHICH THEY HAD RECEIVED. If, therefore, THEY REMAIN under the dominion of the SAME DESIRE, they are dead, and THERE IS NO HOPE OF LIFE FOR THEM; BUT IF THEY REPENT, and FINISH THEIR MINISTRY IN A HOLY MANNER, THEY SHALL BE ABLE TO LIVE. …  These, accordingly, are mutilated in their faith, on account of the deeds which they have done in themselves; yet some repented, and were saved. And the rest, who are of such a character, can be saved if they repent; but if they do not repent, they will perish with those women, whose strength they have assumed. …”  – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXVI)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

 

 

 

 

9) 10th Mountain

 

“… And FROM THE TENTH MOUNTAIN, where were TREES WHICH OVERSHADOWED CERTAIN SHEEP, THEY WHO BELIEVED WERE THE FOLLOWING: BISHOPS GIVEN TO HOSPITALITY, who always GLADLY RECEIVED INTO THEIR HOUSES the servants of God, without dissimulation. And the BISHOPS NEVER FAILED TO PROTECT, BY THEIR SERVICE, THE WIDOWS, and THOSE WHO WERE IN WANT, and always maintained a holy conversation. All these, accordingly, SHALL BE PROTECTED BY THE LORD FOR EVER. They who DO THESE THINGS ARE HONOURABLE BEFORE GOD, and THEIR PLACE IS ALREADY WITH THE ANGELS, if they remain to the end serving God. …”  – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXVII)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

Comment: This also is a heavy emphasis on the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle“.

 

10) 11th Mountain

 

“… And FROM THE ELEVENTH MOUNTAIN, where were trees full of fruits, adorned with fruits of various kinds, THEY WHO BELIEVED were the following: THEY WHO SUFFERED FOR THE NAME of THE SON OF GOD, and who also SUFFERED CHEERFULLY with their whole heart, and laid down their lives.” “Why, then, sir,” I said, “do all these trees bear fruit, and SOME OF THEM FAIRER THAN THE REST? “Listen,” he said: “all who once suffered for the name of the Lord are honourable before God; and of all these the sins were remitted, because they suffered for the name of the Son of God. And why their fruits are of various kinds, and some of them superior, listen. All,” he continued, “who were brought before the authorities and were examined, and did not deny, BUT SUFFERED CHEERFULLY–THESE ARE HELD IN GREATER HONOUR WITH GOD, AND OF THESE THE FRUIT IS SUPERIOR; but ALL WHO WERE COWARDS, AND IN DOUBT, and who REASONED IN THEIR HEARTS WHETHER THEY WOULD DENY OR CONFESS, AND YET SUFFERED, OF THESE THE FRUIT IS LESS, BECAUSE THAT SUGGESTION CAME INTO THEIR HEARTS; for that suggestion–that a servant should deny his Lord–IS EVIL. Have a care, therefore, ye who are planning such things, lest that suggestion remain in your hearts, and ye perish unto God. And ye who suffer for His name ought to glorify God, because He deemed you worthy to bear His name, that all your sins might be healed. [Therefore, rather deem yourselves happy], AND THINK THAT YE HAVE DONE A GREAT THING, IF ANY OF YOU SUFFER on account of God. The Lord bestows upon you life, and YE DO NOT UNDERSTAND, FOR YOUR SINS WERE HEAVY; BUT IF YOU HAD NOT SUFFERED FOR THE NAME OF THE LORD, YE WOULD HAVE DIED TO GOD ON ACCOUNT OF YOUR SINS. These things I say to you who are hesitating about denying or confessing: acknowledge that ye have the Lord, lest, denying Him, ye be delivered up to prison. If the heathen chastise their slaves, when one of them denies his master, what, think ye, will your Lord do, who has authority over all men? Put away these counsels out of your hearts, that you may live continually unto God. …”  – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXVIII)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

Comment: Not every martyrdom is great as some Christians had to die as martyrs because that’s the only way they could have borne the “fruit” unto salvation as their sins were too great as these phrases from the above clearly means: ‘… AND THINK THAT YE HAVE DONE A GREAT THING, IF ANY OF YOU SUFFER on account of God. The Lord bestows upon you life, and YE DO NOT UNDERSTAND, FOR YOUR SINS WERE HEAVY; BUT IF YOU HAD NOT SUFFERED FOR THE NAME OF THE LORD, YE WOULD HAVE DIED TO GOD ON ACCOUNT OF YOUR SINS.  …’

 

11) 12th Mountain

 

“… “And THEY WHO BELIEVED FROM THE TWELFTH MOUNTAIN, which was white, are the following: they are as infant children, IN WHOSE HEARTS NO EVIL ORIGINATES; NOR DID THEY KNOW WHAT WICKEDNESS IS, but ALWAYS REMAINED AS CHILDREN. Such accordingly, without doubt, DWELL IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, BECAUSE THEY DEFILED IN NOTHING THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD; but THEY REMAINED LIKE CHILDREN ALL THE DAYS OF THEIR LIFE in the SAME MIND. All of you, then, who shall remain stedfast, and BE AS CHILDREN, WITHOUT DOING EVIL, WILL BE MORE HONOURED THAN ALL WHO HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED; for all infants are honourable before God, and ARE THE FIRST PERSONS WITH HIM. BLESSED, then, are YE WHO PUT AWAY WICKEDNESS FROM YOURSELVES, and PUT ON INNOCENCE. As the first of all will you live unto God.” After he had finished the similitudes of the mountains, I said to him, “Sir, explain to me now about the stones that were taken out of the plain, and put into the building instead of the stones that were taken out of the tower; and about the round stones that were put into the building; and those that still remain round.” …”  – Shepherd of Hermas (Ninth Similitude, CHAPTER XXVIII)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

 

Conclusion

 

The Greatest ones are those of the “TWELFTH MOUNTAIN” type as the Shepherd of Hermas Says, “… BE AS CHILDREN, WITHOUT DOING EVIL, WILL BE MORE HONOURED THAN ALL WHO HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED; for all infants are honourable before God, and ARE THE FIRST PERSONS WITH HIM. …”.

 

How to do this? The Shepherd Answers above in the next line above “… BLESSED, then, are YE WHO PUT AWAY WICKEDNESS FROM YOURSELVES, and PUT ON INNOCENCE. …”.

 

Regardless of whether one accepts the Shepherd of Hermas as Scripture or not (Let God Reveal it One Day), it certainly correlates well with many Bible Verses and all the above are “righteous words” indeed.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Remarks – Deeper Insights or “Possibilities” based on the Bible with the Shepherd of Hermas

 

1) The Shepherd of Hermas Quote regarding the Eleventh Mountain seem to point not just to martyrdom but also the general “suffering” for Christ to be categorised into two categories namely, those that willingly suffer (great fruits/rewards/glory) Vs those who are forced to or have to to be saved (lesser fruits/lesser glory/lesser rewards) because the latter is said to be “with much sin” and thus “without such suffering” they “cannot be saved” since they have “no” willing “fruits” in their lives implying for example that these could be living “selfish lifestyles prior”.

 

Please also note that a willing “laying down of life” which is the opposite of the “selfish lifestyle” is clearly revealed as the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” in 1 John 3:16 – 18 which marks it to be possibly equal to the willing martyrdom as 1 John 3:16 clearly calls it as “laying down our lives” = “willing martyrdom”.

 

Based on 1 John 3:16 – 18 itself, it’s best to self test again to see that a person who would willingly die in martyrdom type would generally be the same Christian who would love the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle suffering for the benefit of others willingly likewise (please remember “Relative Measure” as per the case of the Poor Widow with Two coins (Luke 21:1 – 4) and also that to him “more is given, more is required” (Luke 12:46 – 48) before flattering oneself unduly). Verses:

 

“… 10In this the CHILDREN OF GOD and THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL are manifest: Whoever DOES NOT PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS is not of God, NOR IS HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE HIS BROTHER. 11For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? BECAUSE HIS WORKS WERE EVIL AND HIS BROTHER’S RIGHTEOUS. … 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3: 10 – 12, 16 – 18, NKJV)

 

 

This Principle of getting more abundant Glory by seeking to do “more of His Commands Willingly” especially those Commands (which does “not” affect your Salvation) and so to do it benefits others such as “Love your enemies type beyond same family , same church, same denomination, same race etc.” (versus some Commands which Christians keep just to save themselves from Hell) merits GREATER GLORY as per this Shepherd of Hermas Quote below too (hence it’s in Context within this same Writing too), to quote:

 

“… I said to him, “Sir, I do not see the meaning of these similitudes, nor am I able to comprehend them, unless you explain them to me.” “I will explain them all to you,” he said, “and whatever I shall mention in the course of our conversations I will show you. [Keep the commandments of the Lord, and you will be approved, and inscribed amongst the number of those who observe His commands.] AND IF YOU DO ANY GOOD BEYOND WHAT IS COMMANDED BY GOD, YOU WILL GAIN FOR YOURSELF MORE ABUNDANT GLORY, and WILL BE MORE HONOURED BY GOD THAN YOU WOULD DO OTHERWISE. If, therefore, in keeping the commandments of God, you do, in addition, these services, you will have joy if you observe them according to my command.” …” Shepherd of Hermas (Fifth Similitude, CHAPTER III)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

 

Example of Commands which are NOT MANDATORY but OPTIONAL which can refer to the “GOOD” which are “not Commands (Mandatory)” but done “WILLINGLY”:

 

1. i) Voluntary Poverty for the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle

 

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?”21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, FOLLOW ME.” …” (Matthew 19:20 – 21, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

1. ii) The Eunuch type of Faith

 

“… For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves EUNUCHS FOR THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN’S SAKE. He who is ABLE TO ACCEPT IT, LET HIM ACCEPT IT.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:12, NKJV)

 

“… 7For I WISH THAT ALL MEN WERE EVEN as I MYSELF. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. 8But I say to the UNMARRIED AND TO THE WIDOWS: IT IS GOOD FOR THEM IF THEY REMAIN EVEN AS I AM; 9but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. … 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have TROUBLE IN THE FLESH, but I WOULD SPARE YOU. … 32But I want you to be without care. He who is UNMARRIED CARES FOR THE THINGS OF THE LORD—how he may PLEASE THE LORD. 33But HE WHO IS MARRIED CARES about the THINGS OF THE WORLD—how he may PLEASE HIS WIFE. … 38So then he who GIVES HER IN MARRIAGE DOES WELL, but he WHO DOES NOT GIVE HER IN MARRIAGE DOES BETTER. …” (1 Corinthians 7:7 – 9, 28, 32 – 33, 38, NKJV)

 

 

“TO THE EUNUCHS who keep my sabbaths,

And CHOOSE WHAT PLEASES ME,

And hold fast My covenant,

5Even to them I WILL GIVE IN MY HOUSE

And WITHIN MY WALLS A PLACE AND A NAME

BETTER THAN THAT OF SONS AND DAUGHTERS;

I will give [a]them AN EVERLASTING NAME

That SHALL NOT BE CUT OFF. …” (Isaiah 56:4 – 5, NKJV)

 

This was discussed in detail in Pages 579 to 586 in this Book.

Note: Nothing wrong in “SEEKING for GLORY and IMMORTALITY and HONOUR” except that don’t seek it from men on earth but on “Judgment Day” from God and thus keep away from man-made doctrines which run down the encouragement to “not” bother about these non-mandatory commands/willing commands as listed above as ‘the loss of it would be eternal’ (so may God Help us to be Wise) in doing what we can BY HIS GRACE ONLY:

 

“… ETERNAL LIFE to those who by PATIENT CONTINUANCE IN DOING GOOD SEEK FOR GLORY, HONOR and IMMORTALITY; …” (Romans 2:7, NKJV)

 

As long as we remember that any Good Act we could do is by “God” Working it through us, there will be “no” self-righteousness (as self-righteousness is assuming that we are doing the Good Works instead of admitting that GOD IS THE ONE DOING IT THORUGH US, the “Jesus in You” Principle) as Revealed in example Verse below:

 

“… for it is GOD WHO WORKS IN YOU BOTH TO WILL AND TO DO for His good pleasure. …” (Philippians 2:13, NKJV)

 

2) A Racist Christians self test

 

To see whether we are Racist Christians within, let us examine ourselves by asking for example if we will accept our sons/daughters to marry someone of a different race that person was a believer and not wicked (all other factors held constant). Apart from this, some people could be Racist within where they only help those of their own race/own family or even only try to evangelize their own race etc. Perhaps that’s why this type of Christians are actually forced to be saved only via martyrdom as the Shepherd of Hermas Quote may match in that if let in a free country, they will live racistly as Christians too. Not all are like that and blessed are those who are not racist within who if they suffer willingly, great is their glory.

 

3) The Shepherd of Hermas Quotes on the Twelve Mountains need not to be viewed as separate classes only as the wise thing to do would be to try to do the “best acts” of each class which is highly regarded before God to Please Him.

 

For example, imagine a Christian who is like a child within (as per the Twelfth Mountain description in this Shepherd of Hermas, e.g. Matthew 18:4 – 5, Mark 9:34 – 37, Mark 10:36 – 45)  who chooses to live out the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle (as per the Seventh & Tenth Mountain description in this Shepherd of Hermas, e.g. 1 John 3:16 – 18, Acts 2:44 – 46, Acts 4:32, Galatians 2:10, Matthew 19:21 – 24, Luke 10:25 – 37, Luke 12:31 – 34, Luke 11:39 – 42 etc.) but does “not” Judge others who differ from his ways by even supporting and helping those different views Christians on things which they agree instead of being schismatic (as per the seventh mountain ones, Matthew 7:1 – 2, 1 Corinthians 4:5) who if suffer willingly for the Gospel in some way to fulfil Its Commands may thus attain to greater rewards or glory, seeking Heavenly Rewards instead of earthly ones (as per the Description of the Eleventh Mountain ones in this Shepherd of Hermas, Matthew 5:47, Luke 6:32, Luke 6:33, as the “Great Reward” in Luke 6:35, as set your mind on “Heavenly things not earthly”-Colossians 3:2, which primarily Includes the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle part of Seeking His Kingdom by “Sell what you have and Give to Charity” as Christ Himself Taught in Luke 12:31 – 34 for one’s “Heart” is not determined by smooth words in glorifying God but in this Charity Doctrine as Christ Says your heart is in Heaven if your treasure is in Heaven in these Verses as “no” man can do a new way of seeking His Kingdom against what Christ has Clearly Specified in these Verses as “it is Written”).

 

4) This same Shepherd of Hermas also has a non-Elect Salvation taught clearly which is outside this ‘Christian or Elect Tower of Repentance’ as I have discussed in detail in pages 64 to 68 in the Book titled “Eternal Hell Annihilation and Universalism in Christianity – Can all three be true A Look with the Apostolic Fathers” (Completed 24

December 2021) in pdf (free download/viewing) in link below:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N5bK-LoBAg4VQN8eLtVWsqkQyoGE0Ad_/view?usp=sharing

 

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

Can Christians Sing Secular Music?

 

I believe that they “can” and please consider claims with Bible Verses discussed in detail even quoting probably the ‘Best Worshipper of All, Blessed King David the Man after God’s Own Heart’ to do it and teaching the children of Judah to repeat that secular song called “the Song of the Bow” and many other Verses in link below:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160980026302784

 

Why is this important?

 

1) No further Holiness can be achieved by following a Man-Made Rule “not” found in Scripture

 

Making false claims of ‘holier than thou’ based on ‘man-made regulations’ but breaking the literal half Written New Testament Traditions within a Church Gathering itself is a self-contradiction and does “not” have any improvement on ‘holiness’ as these are of “no” effect against the “indulgence of the flesh” by obeying these man-made “regulations of do-not-handle, do-not-touch etc.”, Verse in Principle (can be quoted for any man-made tradition or rule “not” found in Bible Verses):

 

“… 20[m]Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, DO YOU SUBJECT YOURSELVES to REGULATIONS— 21“DO NOT TOUCH, DO NOT TASTE, DO NOT HANDLE,” 22which all concern things which perish with the using—ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENTS AND DOCTRINES OF MEN? 23These things indeed have an APPEARANCE OF WISDOM in SELF-IMPOSED RELIGION, FALSE HUMILITY, and [n]neglect of the body, but are of NO VALUE AGAINST THE INDULGENCE OF THE FLESH. …” (Colossians 2:20 – 23, NKJV)

 

Note: If someone wants to make themselves more holy for further rewards, please try actual New Testament “Written” Traditions (e.g. 1 Corinthians 14:37).

 

 

 

If only those who condemn easily were “that zealous” about enforcing actual New Testament “Written” Traditions which the Church has Practiced (in all denominations both Protestant and Catholic/Orthodox) till up to the 20th Century (for which those who disobey claim that God made a New Way from the 20th Century onward), perhaps we will see a more consistent Christianity.

 

Anyway, this is “not” a Judgment statement as I do “not” reject those Churches who disobey these “Written” New Testament Traditions though I don’t approve them on these parts but let God Decide as I know that following the “Written” New Testament Traditions has ‘no’ condemnation and is 100% approved. Let God Decide. A person who judges others won’t have any ministry collaborations or support toward those who differ from them in such points and “the measure you judge will be measure back to you” (Matthew 7:2).

 

 

2) Christ Himself Quoted a type of “Secular Music & Dancing even” in His Famous Parable approving it as belonging to be done by the righteous in Verse below:

 

“… 25“Now his OLDER SON was in the field. And as he came and drew near to the house, HE HEARD MUSIC, and DANCING. … 29So he answered and said to his father, ‘Lo, these many years I have been serving you; I never transgressed your commandment at any time; and YET YOU NEVER GAVE ME A YOUNG GOAT, THAT I MIGHT MAKE MERRY WITH MY FRIENDS. 30But as soon as this son of yours came, who has devoured your livelihood with harlots, you killed the fatted calf for him.’ 31“And he said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that I have is yours. 32It was right that WE SHOULD MAKE MERRY and BE GLAD, for your brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found.’ ”  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 15:25, 29 – 32, NKJV)

 

Note: Though the Parable is in the Context of Salvation, the “make merry” with “friends” here was in context of eating a “young goat or fattened calf” to the point of including having “music and dancing” in the house for the younger boy’s return which is just ‘secular music’.

 

 

 

 

 

3) The Best human Worshipper Blessed King David himself sang the Secular Song called the Song of the Bow

 

1. King David was the Man after God’s Own Heart

 

“…  21And afterward they desired a king: and God gave unto them Saul the son of Cis, a man of the tribe of Benjamin, by the space of forty years. And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them DAVID to be THEIR KING; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a MAN AFTER MINE OWN HEART, WHICH SHALL FULFILL ALL MY WILL. …” (Acts 13:21 – 22, KJV)

 

1. King David had sins but Teaching the Children of Judah to Sing the “Song of the Bow” (the Secular Song for Saul & Jonathan) was “not” a sin

 

“… 17Then David lamented with this lamentation over Saul and over Jonathan his son, 18and he told them TO TEACH THE CHILDREN OF JUDAH THE SONG OF THE BOW; indeed it is written in the Book [c]of Jasher: …” (2 Samuel 1:17, NKJV)

 

iii. The “Song of the Bow” is a “Secular Song” because it does NOT PRAISE GOD in one Verse also as there is “no” Word God even in the entire song as you can check it in any Bible Translation (Example below or in link quoted at the start):

 

https://biblehub.com/nkjv/2_samuel/1.htm

 

1. The “Song of the Bow” is a “Secular Song” but praises possibly even someone who “went to Sheol/Hades’ punishment regions or Hell/Purgatory (or was unsaved)” namely King Saul even for his ‘good deeds’

 

“… 24“O daughters of Israel, weep over Saul,

Who clothed you in scarlet, with luxury;

Who put ornaments of gold on your apparel. …” (2 Samuel 2:24, NKJV)

 

“… But the Spirit of the LORD DEPARTED FROM SAUL, and a distressing spirit from the LORD troubled him. …” (1 Samuel 16:14, NKJV)

 

“… 22So Samuel said:

“Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,

As in obeying the voice of the Lord?

Behold, TO OBEY IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE,

And to heed than the fat of rams.

23For REBELLION is as the sin of [d]WITCHCRAFT,

And STUBBORNNESS is as INIQUITY and IDOLATRY.

Because YOU HAVE REJECTED THE WORD OF THE LORD,

He also has REJECTED YOU FROM BEING KING.”

24Then Saul said to Samuel, “I have sinned, for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord and your words, because I feared the people and obeyed their voice. 25Now therefore, please pardon my sin, and return with me, that I may worship the Lord.” But Samuel said to Saul, “I will not return with you, for you have REJECTED THE WORD OF THE LORD, and the LORD HAS REJECTED YOU from being king over Israel.” …” (1 Samuel 15:26, NKJV)

 

Note: The “Song of the Bow” was sung AFTER KING SAUL was REJECTED by GOD and not during the time when he was ‘accepted’ as a remembrance for his past good deeds/virtue.

 

“… 19Moreover the Lord will also deliver Israel with you into the hand of the Philistines. And tomorrow you and your sons will be with me. The Lord will also deliver the army of Israel into the hand of the Philistines.” 20Immediately Saul fell full length on the ground, and was dreadfully afraid because of the words of Samuel. And there was no strength in him, for he had eaten no food all day or all night. …” (1 Samuel 28:19 – 20, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. The “Song of the Bow” is a “Secular Song” but praises possibly even someone who was ‘righteous’ referring to Jonathan, King David’s Best Friend who is called his brother even for his virtues/good deeds

 

“… 25“How the MIGHTY have fallen in the midst of the battle!

JONATHAN WAS SLAIN IN YOUR HIGH PLACES.

26I am DISTRESSED FOR YOU,  MY BROTHER JONATHAN;

You have been VERY PLEASENT TO ME;

YOUR LOVE TO ME WAS WONDERFUL,

SURPASSING THE LOVE OF WOMEN. …” (2 Samuel 1:25 – 27, NKJV)

 

1. Immediately after Singing this “Secular Song of the Bow”, King David Prayed and the LORD Answered his prayer (meaning that the above singing was “not” an unholy act “nor” an abomination to God) while we even after possibly singing thousands of words even claiming the presence of God, may “not” have gotten such a ‘quick and definite response from God’ every time as ‘King David did’, Verse:

 

“… 1IT HAPPENED AFTER THIS THAT DAVID INQUIRED OF THE LORD, saying, “Shall I go up to any of the cities of Judah?” And THE LORD SAID TO HIM, “GO UP.” David said, “Where shall I go up?” And He said, “To Hebron.” …” (2 Samuel 2:1, NKJV)

 

4) Singing Secular Songs with Lyrics or visuals which contain appearance of evil is to be avoided such as promoting drunkenness or immorality, drugs, vices etc.

 

The opposite might be good namely in either “singing or promoting Virtues/Good Works” or “Mocking Sins”.

 

“… Abstain from all appearance of evil. …” (1 Thessalonians 15:22, KJV)

 

Note: You don’t need to judge who is good vs who is bad in secular music as please leave the Judgment to God (Matthew 7:1 – 2) but let each Christian Answer God personally in regard to this and if you feel uncomfortable, just keep away from such approaches but over-condemning is “not” good lest the person who does it is accepted by God and we could be wrong in ‘over Judging based on man-made traditions/feelings’.

 

5) An Example of a Secular Song sang by a well known Christian Band which I find very inspiring toward Good Works/Virtue is the following song titled “Dare you to move” by “Switchfoot” link:

 

https://youtu.be/iOTcr9wKC-o

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Prosperity Gospel and the Divorce for Remarriage type of Leniency in Doctrine Dangers

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161447433937784

 

In Early Christianity, the ‘Prosperity Gospel’ was non-existent. Today, it’s preached as though Christ Preached it and the Apostles Echoed it and as though the early Christians lived it. Yes, there’s “no” such thing as faith to get worldly things for “Prosperity beyond need” because it contradicts this Verse clearly (Verse in Image too):

 

“… Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. …” (1 John 2:15, NKJV)

 

In Church History, the “Prosperity Gospel” was only found amongst Heretics as these two Powerful First Christianity Quotes will prove:

 

1) St. Irenaeous of Lyons

 

St. Irenaeous regarding those gnostic heretics who will only ‘teach’ the ‘secrets of God’ if the attendees pay a “high PRICE” (i.e. “pay money”) to them, to quote:

 

“… 3. Now what follows from all this? No light tragedy comes out of it, as the fancy of every man among them pompously explains, one in one way, and another in another, from what kind of passion and from what element being derived its origin. They have good reason, as seems to me, WHY THEY SHOULD NOT FEEL INCLINED TO TEACH THESE THINGS TO ALL IN PUBLIC, BUT ONLY TO SUCH ARE ABLE TO PAY A HIGH PRICE FOR AN ACQUAINTANCE WITH SUCH PROFOUND MYSTERIES. For THESE DOCTRINES ARE NOT AT ALL SIMILAR TO THOSE OF WHICH OUR LORD SAID, “FREELY YE HAVE RECEIVED, FREELY GIVE.” They are, on the contrary, abstruse, and portentous, and profound mysteries, TO BE GOT AT ONLY WITH GREAT LABOUR BY SUCH AS ARE IN LOVE WITH FALSEHOOD.  …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, Book 1, Chapter IV, Point 3)

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book1.html

 

Questions to ponder:

 

1. Do our Christians or Churches share the ‘theological knowledge which they have “for free” (in their pages or videos or anything) or only via “PAID BIBLE COURSES”?

 

1. Whether or not that ‘theological knowledge is right or not’ is a different issue (as God can have Mercy) but how to have Mercy on someone who “sells” but at the same time doesn’t put anything for free (especially if the risk of not knowing that is ‘eternal hell’)? Is there anything ‘more selfish’ than that?

 

iii. The old childish arguments of “cost of printing” and all that is false because a “pdf” costs almost nothing to create and share.

 

1. Also, by “not” selling those books, these same persons are “not” on the streets starving either unless if they sell the books for a living (another easy false claim which has “no” basis either).

 

2) St. Jerome of the Vulgate

 

First Christianity does not have “Bishops amassing Private Fortunes in the Name of God” as each of them ‘lived penniless by Faith’ and never became rich by collecting money in the Name of God.

 

All Money collected in the Church went to Church Maintenance, Food and to the Poor (no Bishops in First Christianity ever stored up any money for themselves, in case you didn’t know). This latter heresy was building up in the Time of Blessed St. Jerome where he writes:

 

“… Under Christ’s banner seek for no worldly gain, lest having more than when you first became a clergyman, you hear men say, to your shame, “Their portion shall not profit them.” Welcome poor men and strangers to your homely board, that with them Christ may be your guest. A clergyman who engages in business, and who rises from poverty to wealth, and from obscurity to a high position, avoid as you would the plague. … MANY BUILD CHURCH NOWADAYS; THEIR WALLS and PILLARS of GLOWING MARBLE, THEIR CEILINGS GLITTERING WITH GOLD, THEIR ALTARS STUDDED WITH JEWELS.  YET TO THE CHOICE OF CHRIST’S MINISTRS NO HEED IS PAID, And let no one allege against me the wealth of the temple in Judaea, its table, its lamps, its censers, its dishes, its cups, its spoons,1363 and the rest of its golden vessels. If these were approved by the Lord it was at a time when the priests had to offer victims and when the blood of sheep was the redemption of sins. They were figures typifying things still future and were “written for our admonition upon whom the ends of the world are come.” BUT NOW OUR LORD BY HIS POVERTY HAS CONSECRATED THE POVERTY OF HIS HOUSE. Let us, therefore, think of His cross and count riches to be but dirt. WHY DO WE ADMIRE WHAT CHRIST CALLS “the MAMMON OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS”? (Luke 16:9)  Why do we cherish and love what it is Peter’s boast not to possess? Or if we insist on keeping to the letter and find the mention of gold and wealth so pleasing, let us keep to everything else as well as the gold. … It is the GLORY OF A BISHOP TO MAKE PROVISION FOR THE WANTS OF THE POOR; BUT IT IS THE SHAME OF ALL PRIESTS to AMASS PRIVATE FORTUNES. …” – Blessed St. Jerome of the Vulgate, Second Latin Doctor of the Church who did the First Official Translation of the Bible out of Its Original Languages into Latin, Priest, Confessor, Secretary to Pope Damasus I  (c. 347 AD – c. 420 AD, ‘Letter LII. To Nepotian’, Points 4, 5, 6, 10 in some order)

 

Source:

 

http://www.tertullian.org/fathers2/NPNF2-06/Npnf2-06-03.htm#P1872_458890

 

Example: Blessed Abraham and Blessed Job (common quoted Old Testament examples) were rich by ‘secular work’ and NOT by collecting tithes or church offerings as you can research the Bible and see that NO LEVITE Priest even was RICH by amassing such money or possessions from ‘money collected in the Name of God’. If any preacher simply states that it exists (that PRIESTS made themselves RICH BEYOND NEEDS in the OLD TESTAMENT), please ask for a Verse and you will see that there is “none”.

 

In fact, the “opposite” has been Warned where if a PRIEST does PROFANE the OFFERINGS (including TITHES in these Verses)  for example by living in luxury or “not” following the RULES for those PRIESTS who LIVE BY TITHES (which included actually inheriting “no” property even at a time when both ‘money & property & Levites having families existed’ and so “no” modern differences), to quote the ‘actual Bible Verses’:

 

“… 24For the TITHES OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, which they offer up as a heave offering to the Lord, I have given to the Levites [j]as an inheritance; therefore I have said to them, ‘AMONG THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL THEY SHALL HAVE NO INHERITANCE.’ ” 25Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 26“Speak thus to the Levites, and say to them: ‘When you take from the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them as your inheritance, then you shall offer up a heave offering of it to the Lord, a tenth of the tithe.  …   31You may eat it in any place, you and your households, for it is your [l]reward for your work in the tabernacle of meeting. 32And you shall bear no sin because of it, when you have lifted up the best of it. But YOU SHALL NOT PROFANE THE HOLY GIFTS of THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, LEST YOU DIE.’ ” …” (Numbers 18:24 – 25, 31 – 32, NKJV)

 

Comment: Whether God is Going to use that strict of a Rule in New Testament times for those Churches or Pastors which practice tithing, I don’t know. But what I know is, this was the ORIGINAL OLD TESTAMENT RULE for ANY PRIEST who LIVED ON TITHE MONEY and so decide for yourselves how you will but stretching it to ‘PROSPERITY LIVING and SALARIES’ based on TITHE MONEY and OFFERINGS COLLECTED IN THE NAME of GOD may RISK ETERNAL HELL as the last line above WARNS as it may be a clear type of PROFANEMENT of these TITHES/OFFERINGS (Context here): “… But YOU [Levites/Priests] SHALL NOT PROFANE THE HOLY GIFTS of THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, LEST YOU DIE. …” (Numbers 18:32).

 

I repeat, I am “not” saying that those prosperity-pastors or divorce-allowing pastors and Christians/Churches are ‘unsaved for sure’ but based on these First Christianity quotes, it’s certainly “possible” but we don’t need to Judge nor condemn them as we already pointed out these “Bible Verses” and First Christianity quotes which prove the ‘Safe Way Scripturally’ instead. Let God Alone Decide.

 

But if these modern preachers are wrong on these two points (of divorce-remarrying for the innocent-spouse-claim and the prosperity-gospel), they could go to “Eternal Hell” in light of all these Bible Verses and First Christianity quotes (more in links provided) and so I am “not” taking those risks (personal stance).

 

Conclusion

 

‘… Truth is always Free, Lies are always Sold …’ – Anonymous

 

“… 6And He said to me, “It[c] is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give of the fountain of the WATER OF LIFE FREELY TO HIM WHO THIRSTS. 7He WHO OVERCOMES [d]SHALL INHERIT ALL THINGS, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. 8But the cowardly, [e]unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” …” (Revelation 21:6 – 8, NKJV)

 

Note: Regarding the Testimony of St. Irenaeous and other Church Fathers whom I quote, if you are really keen on some ‘real Church History’ in a brevity type of writing, please consider the nice ‘free pdf’ below:

http://www.gibcjupiter.org/site/user/files/1/grace-and-granite-20170920.pdf

 

Comment: Not all what the ‘author of the pdf’ resembles the Church Fathers (for example he seems to allow the so called innocent party of the divorced to re-marry which is “not” supported by any Church Fathers who taught the opposite and so he evades quoting any ‘actual Church History’ quotes for those topics but just states ‘his modern opinion’ on Page 261 onward).

 

Here’s a refutation example for his claim using the “Shepherd of Hermas”:

 

The Shepherd of Hermas “Possible” Scripture seems to point to such Christians to be “unsaved”, not just them but also “those who approve them” agreeing with First Christianity’s Earliest Church Leaders who understood Lord Jesus Christ’s Purest Words Likewise.

 

To quote (where in the example given below,  ‘the husband’ is the ‘relatively innocent party’):

 

“… I say to him, “Sir, permit me to ask thee a few more questions” “Say on,” saith he. “Sir,” say I, “IF A MAN n who has a wife that is FAITHFUL IN THE LORD detect her in adultery, doth the husband sin in living with her?” “So long as he is ignorant,” saith he, “he sinneth not; but if the husband know of her sin, and the wife repent not, but continue in her fornication, and her husband live with her, he makes himself responsible for her sin and an accomplice in her adultery.” Let him DIVORCE HER,” saith he, “and LET THE HUSBAND ABIDE ALONE: but IF AFTER DIVORCING HIS WIFE HE SHALL MARRY ANOTHER, HE LIKEWISE COMMITTETH ADULTERY.“… If therefore in SUCH DEEDS as these likewise a man CONTINUE AND REPENT NOT, KEEP AWAY FROM HIM, and LIVE NOT WITH HIM. OTHERWISE, THOU ALSO ART A PARTAKER OF HIS SIN …  For this cause ye were ENJOINED TO REMAIN SINGLE, whether husband or wife; FOR IN SUCH CASES REPENTANCE IS POSSIBLE …” – The Angel which Presideth Over  Repentance in the Shepherd of Hermas (Mandate 4, Verses 1[29]:4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd-lightfoot.html

 

Comment: Please notice carefully that ‘repentance’ is only possible for those “innocent-party-faithful-man-in-the-Lord” who “divorced” his “adulterous wife” if he “REMAINS SINGLE” (referring clearly to NO REMARRIAGE and just remaining SINGLE) as even the last phrase above strongly emphasizes clearly as follows: “… ENJOINED TO REMAIN SINGLE, whether husband or wife; FOR IN SUCH CASES REPENTANCE IS POSSIBLE …”. I have discussed this in detail in previous posts in links below (if keen):

 

1. i) Divorced and Remarried – Unsaved Christians?

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10158846622677784

 

1. ii) Divorce or Separated – Bible Truth (Quoting even Church Fathers preaching likewise with “Bible Verses”)

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10158230216892784

 

My point is this: Please focus on the ‘Bible Verses’ and ‘Church Fathers quotes regarding it’ for that would be most likely true. If Church Fathers’ quotes contradict then there is a “possibility” for that topic that either could be true.

 

If the Shepherd of Hermas and Church Fathers quotes are true, “not” just those who ‘remarry after divorce are condemned but also those who approve it as the quote above seems to strongly ring’ as per these haunting phrases: ‘… If therefore in SUCH DEEDS as these likewise a man CONTINUE AND REPENT NOT, KEEP AWAY FROM HIM, and LIVE NOT WITH HIM. OTHERWISE, THOU ALSO ART A PARTAKER OF HIS SIN …’ . So if ‘modern prosperity Christianity’ wants to take such risks, let them but I prefer the Safe Route Scripturally as shown.

 

Also, I have explained in detail regarding the “Shepherd of Hermas” Writing how it was Scripture in much of First Christianity and today it’s one of the “Apostolic Fathers’ Writing” in pages 61 to 71 in the Book titled “Eternal Hell Annihilation and Universalism in Christianity – Can all three be true A Look with the Apostolic Fathers” (Completed 24

December 2021) in pdf (free download/viewing) in link below:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N5bK-LoBAg4VQN8eLtVWsqkQyoGE0Ad_/view?usp=sharing

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Interpreting Scripture – Please read both sides and decide for yourselves which is right carefully because God can hold us Accountable

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161447661137784

 

Clue: I prefer First Christianity Writings instead of the thousands of modern denominations. We need to interpret at least “His Commands” rightly and “not” worry about eschatology so much because the latter has “not” occurred yet and thus 1 Corinthians 4:5 allows the “Judge nothing before its time” (since future prophecies have not come to pass fall into this category allows for this Context) as ‘it is Written’.

 

“… “Does our law judge a man before it hears him and knows what he is doing?” …” – Blessed Nicodemus (John 7:51, NKJV)

 

“… But Peter and John answered and said to them, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you more than to God, you judge. …” (Acts 4:19, NKJV)

 

“… Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:57, NKJV)

 

Note: The ‘number of people convinced against Bible Verses’ serves as “no” proof of Truth as even the Roman Catholics can do ‘so much more than any of the modern protestant denominations in the Name of Christ too being MORE PROSPEROUS IN MONEY/WEALTH to CONVERTING MORE SOULS to even DOING MORE CHARITY etc.’. It’s all about “NEVER GO BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN” as 1 Corinthians 4:6 has Warned. Verses:

 

“… Therefore JUDGE NOTHING BEFORE THE TIME, UNTIL THE LORD COMES, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God. 6Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be [c]puffed up on behalf of one against the other. 7For who [d]MAKES YOU DIFFER FROM ANOTHER? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? … 14I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. 15For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16Therefore I URGE YOU, IMITATE ME. 17For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH.  …” (1 Corinthians 4:5 – 7, 14 – 17, NKJV)

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

Needs not Prosperity nor luxuries nor wants and the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle if we have more

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161449485037784

 

Verse in image (Philippians 4:19) clearly Says every “need”, not “wants, luxuries, prosperity”.

 

Yes, even in all “HIS RICHES”,  God only Provides “NEEDS” as Verse below Reveals (in analogy, Responsible Parenting as providing luxuries to children is not more love but creates pride filled spoiled brats who are selfish and do not care for others much):

 

“… And MY GOD SHALL SUPPLY ALL YOUR NEED ACCORDING TO HIS RICHES in glory by Christ Jesus.  …” (Philippians 4:19, NKJV)

 

The Bible Definition of “need” turns out to be only “food and clothing“. Anything more is just a bonus  and best if shared. That definition Verse below:

 

“… 5[b]useless wranglings of men of CORRUPT MINDS and DESTITUTE OF THE TRUTH, who suppose that GODLINESS IS A MEANS OF GAIN. [c]FROM SUCH WITHDRAW YOURSELF. 6Now GODLINESS WITH CONTENTMENT IS GREAT GAIN. 7For we brought nothing into this world, [d]and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8And HAVING FOOD AND CLOTHING, WITH THESE WE SHALL BE CONTENT. …” (1 Timothy 6:5 – 8, NKJV)

 

Why is this important? As Verse 5 above Speaks, without such level of “Contentment” one’s “Godliness” (faith + holiness) does “NOT” Work to Great Gain (in the Heavens, Colossians 3:23 – 24, Luke 12:31 – 34) and in worse cases “plunge men into destruction and have their faith shipwrecked” as next Verses in 1 Timothy 6:9 – 11 Speak (not quoted here to focus on this part only).

 

 

 

 

Last but not least, please notice that 1 Timothy 6:5 above clearly Warns that only those “DESTITUTE OF TRUTH/CORRUPT MINDS” will Preach that “GODLINESS IS A MEANS OF GAIN” (which is the ‘Prosperity Gospel’ thought where people like this often say that if you live holy & believe God, He is going to make you “rich”/have gains or blessings or equivalent). What to do if you find such Christians? The Verse above continues “… [c]FROM SUCH WITHDRAW YOURSELF. …” (1 Timothy 6:5).

 

What if some Christians are “rich”?

 

In this ‘same Topic/same Chapter’ (the Bible Verses didn’t end as above and neither should our preaching on this topic) which COMMANDS the following (hence it’s “not” an option for the “rich Christians“, please notice that this is not Commanded to the “poor Christian” hence God is Fair and Sees by Relative Measure), Verses for the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE to be PRACTICED in the CONTEXT OF ETERNAL LIFE by the Original Sola Fide Preacher, Blessed Apostle St. Paul himself (without doing which possibly “Many” could be Denied for “Lawlessness” in this aspect as well because the Context here is for ‘Eternal Life’ as Matthew 7:20 – 24’s LAWLESSNESS Context especially referring to “LAWLESSNESS WITHIN” whose CURE IS ALMSGIVING AS CHRIST HIMSELF TAUGHT agrees in Luke 11:39 – 45 because not doing it is NOT PRACTICING JUSTICE and LOVE OF GOD where even paying tithes did NOT count as fulfilling God’s Will in this, so better to be ‘Safe Scripturally’), to quote (please read the Bible Verses below carefully as it is Written, it’s NOT the opinion of mere men):

 

“… 17COMMAND THOSE WHO ARE RICH in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. 18Let THEM DO GOOD, that they be RICH IN GOOD WORKS, READY TO GIVE, WILLING TO SHARE, 19storing up for themselves a good foundation for the time to come, that THEY MAY LAY HOLD ON ETERNAL LIFE. …” (1 Timothy 6:17 – 19, NKJV)

 

“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For YOU TITHE mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD THESE YOU OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 45, NKJV)

 

 

Note: Christ Did “NOT” say that this CHARITY DOCTRINE part in the above “… GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” can be LEFT NOT DONE or is OPTIONAL for any TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST as He Himself Says in the last lines above that “… THESE YOU OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE. …” (it’s inclusive and it’s Written).

 

Please don’t be deceived.

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

First Christianity is Loaded with these Mysteries

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161454362692784

 

 

1) St. Athanasius also played one of the most important role to decide that there are 27 books in the New Testament, example quotes:

 

1. i) Protestant Source

 

“… Athanasius of Alexandria (A.D. 296-373) was the most prominent theologian of the fourth century, and he served as bishop of Alexandria. His list of canonical books was published as part of his Thirty-Ninth Festal Epistle of A.D. 367. After the list he declares, “these are the wells of salvation, so that he who thirsts may be satisfied with the sayings in these. Let no one add to these. Let nothing be taken away.” …”

Source: http://www.bible-researcher.com/athanasius.html

 

Or https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-28/367-athanasius-defines-new-testament.html

 

1. ii) Actually his same Letter/Source reveals further that though he chose 27 Books as certainly inspired, he did also accept the “Shepherd of Hermas” though not with equal level as the earlier books just like the Mysterious Muratorian Canon or Roman Canon mentioned likewise too

“… These are the springs of salvation, in order that he who is thirsty may fully refresh himself with the words contained in them. In them alone is the doctrine of piety proclaimed. Let no one add anything to them or take anything away from them… But for the sake of greater accuracy I add, being constrained to write, that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. And although, beloved, the former are in the canon and the latter serve as reading matter, yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics, who write them down when it pleases them and generously assign to them an early date of composition in order that they may be able to draw upon them as supposedly ancient writings and have in them occasion to deceive the guileless. …” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, The 39th Festal Letter of Athanasius (367 CE))

 

Source: http://www.ntcanon.org/Athanasius.shtml

 

Note: Quoting the later councils and all that doesn’t matter so much because they all quote St. Athanasius for the 27 Book New Testament as even the Protestants do. I know of no earlier leader of the church to mention such number of books but may list more too or less too or not mention some too.

 

I have discussed these same quotes and more on Page 176 onward in the free downloadable pdf for the Book titled “Mystery of the Kingdom of Heaven” (if keen) in link below:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xQJg2QVNo8B4DCpNn_yTpEGXtG0iRmii/view?usp=sharing

Peace to you

 

A keen eye would notice that for St. Athanasius at that time even, the “Book of Esther” was “outside of the Bible” (just like the Shepherd of Hermas or others mentioned in his quote above) but today is one of the 66 books meaning these other books also could be likewise in his quote above:

 

“…that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd.  …”

*Shepherd = Shepherd of Hermas (in quote above)

 

St. Athanasius clearly points that each of these listed books are “accepted” while he states as “Apocrypha”  in his usage here “NOT” referring to these books but ‘other fake books made by heretics’ (which are “not” listed here meaning what is “not” listed could be potentially from heretical sources). That quote from above:

 

“…And although, beloved, the former are in the canon and the latter serve as reading matter, yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics, who write them down when it pleases them and generously assign to them an early date of composition in order that they may be able to draw upon them as supposedly ancient writings and have in them occasion to deceive the guileless. …” …”

 

Comments, please consider these phrases carefully:

 

1) “… the former are in the canon  …” = 27 New Testament Books (Accepted)

 

2) “… and the latter serve as reading matter, …” = “… .that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd [of Hermas]. …” (Accepted)

 

3) “… yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics …” = Books which are “not” listed above (Rejected).  Interesting, isn’t it?

 

 

 

 

 

Purpose Driven Life – Knowing Heavenly Inheritance Reward for Daily Life Secular Work or Gospel Work or any type of Good Works

 

Source Post:

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161483870422784

 

“… to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, THAT THEY MAY RECEIVE THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS AND AN INHERITANCE AMONG THOSE WHO ARE SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 26:18, NKJV)

 

‘… Whatever you do …’ —> can be for the LORD as the First Context here was toward ‘Slaves/Servant Secular Job literally’. —> and the “REWARD of the INHERITANCE of His Kingdom accordingly is Promised”.

 

Those Verses here:

 

“… 17And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him. … 22BONDSERVANTS, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in sincerity of heart, fearing God. 23And WHATEVER YOU DO, do it heartily, AS TO THE LORD and not to men, 24KNOWING THAT FROM THE LORD YOU WILL RECEIVE THE REWARD OF THE INHERITANCE; for[a] you serve the Lord Christ. 25But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality. …” (Colossians 3:17, 22 – 25, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1. If someone says that they are “not” interested in the Heavenly Inheritance God Promises, then if they never get it (‘their own word will condemn them’ because ‘they looked down on God’s Word and so they will reap the same ignoring they did toward God’s Promise inheriting less or nothing’), Verses:

 

“… “So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and GIVE YOU AN INHERITANCE AMONG ALL THOSE WHO ARE SANCTIFIED. …” (Acts 20:32, NKJV)

 

“… For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” …” (Matthew 12:37, NKJV)

 

2. The INHERITANCE Spoken of in these Verses is HEAVENLY INHERITANCE

 

“… to an INHERITANCE incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, RESERVED IN HEAVEN FOR YOU, …” (1 Peter 1:4, NKJV)

 

3. Treasure in Heaven = part of the INHERITANCE in Heaven is clearly via the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as the First Meaning of “Seeking His Kingdom” as Christ Himself Teaches below (with “no” other religious acts mentioned)

 

“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)

 

4. All REWARD is “not” the same among believers even as there is “GOLD vs SILVER vs PRECIOUS STONES” and it is ACCORDING to ONE’s OWN LABOR (by ‘Relative Measure’):

 

“… 8Now HE WHO PLANTS AND HE WHO WATERS ARE ONE, and EACH ONE WILL RECEIVE HIS OWN REWARD ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building. 10According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I HAVE LAID THE FOUNDATION, and ANOTHER BUILDS ON IT. But let each one take heed HOW HE BUILDS ON IT.  11For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if anyone builds on this foundation with GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES, wood, hay, straw, 13each one’s work will become clear; FOR THE DAY WILL DECLARE IT, because IT WILL BE REVEALED BY FIRE; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE. …” (1 Corinthians 3:8 – 15, NKJV)

 

Comment: Please notice carefully, there’s also “saved by fire” without any rewards in Verses above and a Reward is only Promised if one’s work endures and that there are at least three levels of a work that endures namely, “gold, silver or precious stones” and so the myth of ‘equal rewards for all Christians even is clearly refuted here’. Please don’t be deceived and this itself should be a motivation for each Christian to Work on each other’s Reward whilst helping each other to better themselves in Good Works accordingly.

 

5. Relative Measure:

 

“… 1And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites.[a] 3So He said, “TRULY I say to you that this POOR widow has put in MORE THAN ALL; 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings [b]for God, but she OUT OF HER POVERTY PUT IN ALL THE LIVELIHOOD THAT SHE HAD.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 21:1 – 4, NKJV)

 

More on Relative Measure was discussed in brief post in link below:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161482483492784

 

6. #ShepherdofHermas CHARITY DOCTRINE Judgment for the ELECT TOWER (CHURCH) of REPENTANCE SALVATION

 

“… 9[17]:1 “Hear me, my children. I brought you up in much simplicity and guilelessness and reverence, through the mercy of the Lord, Who instilled righteousness into you, that YE MIGHT BE JUSTIFIED AND SANCTIFIED from all wickedness and all crookedness. But ye will not to cease from your wickedness. 9[17]:2 Now then hear me and be at peace among yourselves, and have regard one to another, and assist one another, and DO NOT PARTAKE OF THE CREATURES OF GOD ALONE IN ABUNDANCE, BUT SHARE THEM ALSO WITH THOSE THAT ARE IN WANT.  9[17]:3 For some men through their much eating bring weakness on the flesh, and injure their flesh: whereas the flesh of those who have nought to eat is injured by their not having sufficient nourishment, and their body is ruined.  9[17]:4 THIS EXCLUSIVENESS THEREFORE IS HURTFUL TO YOU THAT HAVE AND DO NOT SHARE WITH THEM THAT AR IN WANT.  9[17]:5 LOOK YE TO THE JUDGMENT THAT COMETH. YE THEN THAT HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH, SEEK OUT THEM THAT ARE HUNGRY, WHILE THE TOWER IS STILL UNFINISHED; FOR AFTER THE TOWER IS FINISHED, YE WILL DESIRE TO DO GOOD, AND WILL FIND NO PLACE FOR IT.  9[17]:6 Look ye therefore, ye that exult in YOUR WEALTH, LEST THEY THAT ARE IN WANT SHALL MOAN, and their moaning shall go up unto the Lord, and YE WITH YOUR [ABUNDANCE OF GOOD THINGS BE SHUT OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR OF THE TOWER. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Vision 3)

 

Source:

 

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd-lightfoot.html

 

or

 

“… 4[114]:2 Charge all men who are able to do right, that THEY CEASE NOT TO PRACTICE GOOD WORKS; for it is useful for them. I say moreover that every man ought to be RESCUED FROM MISFORTUNE; for he that hath need, and SUFFERETH MISFORTUNE IN HIS DAILY LIFE, IS IN GREAT TORMENT AND WANT. 4[114]:3 WHOSOEVER THEREFORE RESCUETH  FROM PENURY A LIFE OF THIS KIND, winneth great joy for himself. For he who is harassed by misfortune of this sort is afflicted and tortured with equal torment as one who is in chains. For many men on account of calamities of this kind, because they can bear them no longer, lay violent hands on themselves. HE THEN WHO KNOWS THE CALAMITY OF A MAN OF THIS KIND AND RESCUETH HIM NOT, COMMITTETH GREAT SIN, and BECOMETH GUILTY OF THE MAN’s BLOOD.  4[114]:4 DO THEREFORE GOOD WORKS, WHOEVER OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED (BENEFITS) FROM THE LORD, LEST, WHILE YE DELAY TO DO THEM THE BUILDING OF THE TOWER BE COMPLETED. For it is on your account that the work of the building has been interrupted. Unless then ye hasten to do right, the tower will be completed, and YE SHUT OUT.” 4[114]:5 When then he had finished speaking with me, he rose from the couch and departed, TAKING WITH HIM THE SHEPHERD AND THE VIRGINS. He said however unto me, that he would send the shepherd and the virgins back again to my house. . .” – Shepherd of Hermas (Parable 10, Last Lines of this entire Writing)

 

Source:

 

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd-lightfoot.html

 

 

 

 

Conclusion

 

Any Complete Gospel Preaching shouldn’t just Preach the “Forgiveness of Sins part” but also the “Inheritance of the Kingdom aspect” as both pertain to “FAITH and  SANCTIFIFICATION Works accordingly” and this Doctrine was Taught by CHRIST HIMSELF in Verses below Majestically (where only those ‘blinded by Satan’ cannot see the Magnificence of this Promise’), in full:

 

“… to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, THAT THEY MAY RECEIVE THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS AND AN INHERITANCE AMONG THOSE WHO ARE SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME. 19“Therefore, King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, 20but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, THAT THEY SHOULD REPENT, turn to God, and DO WORKS BEFITING REPENTANCE ….”  (Acts 26:18 – 20, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1. “… THAT THEY SHOULD REPENT, turn to God, …” = Repentance alone (toward faith + holiness) is NOT enough

 

2. “…and DO WORKS BEFITING REPENTANCE ….” = which Includes the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as many New Testament Verses Testify.

 

Can you see it please ‘as it is Written’?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. I have discussed the Verses Quoted here on many occasions in the recent books, for example:

 

1. i) Pages 470 to 475 discusses the Context of “SOW SPARINGLY, REAP SPARINGLY” as referring to the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE LIVED in the free pdf #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook in link below:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-zX7XgzguBYHkXWucUZ6xfMInbwtj0Z3/view?usp=sharing

 

1. ii) Pages 87 to 96 or Pages 97 to 119 or Pages 443 to 446 or Pages 599 to 601 or Pages 730 to 734 discusses the “SAVED BY FIRE but WITHOUT REWARD POSSIBILITIES” in the free pdf #CharityDoctrineBook in link below:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MiCYDzxbOc0yAZhT9Es9U7yL6XLuV0Qz/view?usp=sharing

 

iii) Pages 91 to 92 or Pages 135 to 149

discusses the “SAVED BY FIRE but WITHOUT REWARD POSSIBILITIES” in the free pdf  #EternalhellAnnihilationandUniversalismBook in link below:

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N5bK-LoBAg4VQN8eLtVWsqkQyoGE0Ad_/view?usp=sharing

 

4. Mystery of the THIRSTY ONES as referring to some Fallen Christian together with some non-Christian with Charity Doctrine to be Saved during the Second Resurrection “Possibility”

 

This further Mysterious “Possibility” of the “MYSTERY OF THE THIRSTY ONES GIVEN THE WATER OF LIFE FREELY” is discussed in the same Books above in examples below:

 

1. In Pages 352 to 373 or Pages 417 to 419 or Pages 565 to 571 or Pages 676 to 679 or Pages 574 to 579 in the free pdf #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook  in link above.

 

1. In Pages 57 to 59 or Page 116 or Pages 126 to 137 or Pages 179 to 185 in the free pdf #EternalhellAnnihilationandUniversalismBook in link above.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Summary: Work of God as Referring to Any Benefit Done toward Christians and Possibilities Beyond

 

“… 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? 6I PLANTED, APOLLOS WATERED, but GOD GAVE THE INCREASE. 7So then NEITHER HE WHO PLANTS IS ANYTHING, NOR HE WHO WATERS, BUT GOD WHO GIVES THE INCREASE. 8Now HE WHO PLANTS AND HE WHO WATERS ARE ONE, and EACH ONE WILL RECEIVE HIS OWN REWARD ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; YOU ARE GOD’s FIELD, YOU ARE GOD’s BUILDING. 10According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But LET EACH ONE TAKE HEED HOW HE BUILDS ON IT.  11For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if anyone builds on this foundation with GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES, wood, hay, straw, 13each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.” (1 Corinthians 3:5 – 15, NKJV)

Comments:

 

1) The person who ‘converts others’ (the one ‘who plants’) and the person who ‘gives things beneficial to the converts’ (the one ‘who waters’) are NOTHING but just VESSELS USED by GOD (meaning it is actually GOD ALONE WHO IS DOING the WORK through them, the “Jesus in You” Principle)

 

“… 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? 6I PLANTED, APOLLOS WATERED, but GOD GAVE THE INCREASE. 7So then NEITHER HE WHO PLANTS IS ANYTHING, NOR HE WHO WATERS, BUT GOD WHO GIVES THE INCREASE. …”(1 Corinthians 3:5 – 7, NKJV)

 

 

2) The person who ‘converts others’ (the one ‘who plants’) and the person who ‘gives things beneficial to the converts’ (the one ‘who waters’) are “one” (or ‘equal In ministry value’) meaning the popular myth of ‘those who convert you are doing the greatest ministry work’ is clearly refuted here

 

“… 8Now HE WHO PLANTS AND HE WHO WATERS ARE ONE, …” (1 Corinthians 3:8, NKJV)

3) Relative Measure for LABOUR part (or “Work” and not ‘Faith only’)

 

“… and EACH ONE WILL RECEIVE HIS OWN REWARD ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR….”

(1 Corinthians 3:8, NKJV)

 

4) Building on God’s Work is Described here directly as “DOING SOMETHING WHICH BENEFITS OTHER CHRISTIANS (BELIEVERS)” which is the CHARITY DOCTRINE with WORLDLY GOODS or SPIRITUAL GOODS because the “Christians” are called as the “Building” and so the “Work” done on them refers to “Benefits” given to “them”

 

“… 9For we are God’s fellow workers; YOU ARE GOD’s FIELD, YOU ARE GOD’s BUILDING. 10According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But LET EACH ONE TAKE HEED HOW HE BUILDS ON IT.  …” (1 Corinthians 3:9, NKJV)

 

1. i) For example if a Christian does “NOT” easily share earthly goods (money, wealth, possessions) or even spiritual goods (Bible knowledge, Bible courses, Bible related things) easily with other Christians but say “SELLS THEM AT HIGH PRICES”, is he building toward a “Gold, Silver or Precious type of Reward” or something much lower due to such “SELFISHNESS”?

 

1. ii) Mystery “Possibility” part: Since God’s BUILDING or God’s FIELD here is metaphorically CHRISTIANS according to this Verse, so the Judgment Day Verses (in Matthew 25:31 – 46) regarding doing the CHARITY DOCTRINE in Response to “… WHEN I WAS HUNGRY, THIRSTY, NAKED, HOMELESS …” toward the “least of CHRIST’S BRETHREN (can refer to CHRISTIANS according to Matthew 12:48 – 50)” can be included as BUILDING on CHRISTIANS by non-Christian’s ACTS OF KINDNESS too as these Verses Speak which can possibly merit the fruit of salvation needed for some non-Christians to be Saved only during the Second Resurrection on Judgment Day itself IN ANALOGY of the PRINCIPLE set forth here in these Verses itself as I have discussed in previous books with relevant possible First Christianity Authoritative Quotes (too much to detail here), examples:

 

1. Pages 535 to 581 in the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook in free pdf link below

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-zX7XgzguBYHkXWucUZ6xfMInbwtj0Z3/view?usp=sharing

1. The #UnsolvedMysteryBook – Unsolved Mystery  – Is there Possible Gospel Hope for some Unbelieving Non Christians if Hell is Eternal?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_avSqmISwjySSj5rF5v5AoXXNnfIVB6H/view?usp=sharing

 

Please note carefully that I’m “NOT” saying that this “Mystery part” must certainly be true but rather that this is “POSSIBLE” in light of these Verses and more (as discussed in links or pages quoted above) and so to be “HONEST” I present it and since I AM NOT SURE ENTIRELY which is the case, I accept it either way when God Reveals it One Day.

 

 

5) Not all Reward Levels are the same and each Christian is exhorted to BUILD (WORK) on BENEFITTING other CHRISTIANS (which is the CHARITY DOCTRINE with SPIRITUAL and EARTHLY GOODS, implied metaphorically so clearly here)

 

“… . But LET EACH ONE TAKE HEED HOW HE BUILDS ON IT.  11For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if anyone builds on this foundation with GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES, wood, hay, straw, 13each one’s work will become clear;  …” (1 Corinthians 3:10 – 13, NKJV)

 

Note: Foundation = JESUS CHRIST (so the BUILDING WORK is based on HOW MUCH OF HIS COMMANDS WE FULFILL too and most of Christ’s Commands are referring to the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as you can read the New Testament especially the GOSPELS)

 

 

6) This Verse seems to Point to JUDGMENT DAY Context because the FIRE seems to refer to the LAKE of FIRE Context which is only on JUDGMENT DAY (1000 years after the First Resurrection, Revelation 20:5) and the WORK is TESTED

 

“… 13each one’s work will become clear; for the DAY will declare it, because IT WILL BE REVEALED BY FIRE; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. …” (1 Corinthians 3:13, NKJV)

 

 

7) Not everyone gets a REWARD but only those whose WORK REMAINS under SCRUTINY by GOD’s FIRE against CHRIST’S FOUNDATION of HIS COMMANDS of both FAITH or BELIEVING and WORK (since God is PERFECT, His Standards of Scrutiny will Reveal every intent)

“… 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. …” …” (1 Corinthians 3:14, NKJV)

 

8) Not everyone gets a Reward as some are only “SAVED BY FIRE”

“… 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.” (1 Corinthians 3:15, NKJV)

Possibilities:

1. i) If each Christian is to get a reward is assumed, then this one who is “SAVED THROUGH the LAKE of FIRE” (implied) is then most likely a FALLEN CHRISTIAN who may share a SAME FATE as UNBELIEVERS (as Luke 12:46 – 48 clearly Reveal the ‘few vs many beating likewise according to sins done unknowingly or knowingly respectively’) and thus a NON-CHRISTIAN who is said to share the same fate in this phrase “… 45But IF THAT SERVANT [Christian, impled] …46the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and WILL CUT HIM IN TWO [becomes a fallen Christian*] AND APPOINT HIM HIS PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS. …” (in Luke 12:45 – 46).

 

1. ii) If NOT each Christian is to get a reward is assumed, then the above must refer to a CHRISTIAN who based on 1 Corinthians 3:15 above is SAVED by FIRE and so OSAS (Once Saved, Always Saved) concept may thus be true for some at least. And such similar analogy in Judgment could extend to non-Christians likewise as discussed in previous books. Since no one knows for sure, we may speculate these possibilities and each one be responsible for both their faith and works respectively. However, admitting human weakness in not being able to understand it as even the Anointed Blessed Apostle St. Peter (who did many miracles too) but still FOUND IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND Blessed Apostle St. Paul’s WISDOM of GOD shows that true CHRISTIANS are NOT required to understand everything IN SCRIPTURE even as this phrase proves: “… as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in WHICH ARE SOME THINGS HARD TO UNDERSTAND, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the REST OF SCRIPTURES. …” (2 Peter 3:16, NKJV)

Note: TWISTING is when you say that it must mean that 100% but in the end you are wrong which in contrast to considering possibilities on such difficult thing is NOT TWISTING as we never said the one who turns out to be right to be wrong, just not sure which.

There are three types of Reward Level in the Heavens for Christians namely, the “THIRTYFOLD vs SIXTYFOLD vs HUNDREFOLD“, Verse:

 

“… But others fell on GOOD GROUND and yielded a crop: some a HUNDREDFOLD, SOME SIXTY, SOME THIRTY. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 13:8, NKJV)

 

The only Verse which Describes the HUNDREFOLD Harvest of the Gospel (Matthew 13:8) Point to an ACTION of VOLUNTARY POVERTY or LEAVING SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT for the GOSPEL WORK in some Way such as “… leaving WIFE …” (can include the Context of being Unmarried for the Gospel Work) or “… leaving Family (father, mother, brother) …” (to Preach the Gospel or reach out to others or be rejected at home due to your faith) or “… leaving LANDS and HOUSES …” (i.e. literal Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as other New Testament Verses describe this Giving/Sharing, e.g. Acts 2:44 – 46, Acts 4:32) in some Way, Verses:

 

“… 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:27 – 30, NKJV)

 

Note: This “HUNDREDFOLD Reward” is “not” given now in this life as some Prosperity Gospel Preaches err (claiming that they are fulfilling this Verse) but rather this Reward is clearly Pointed by CHRIST HIMSELF to refer to the REGENERATION as it is GIVEN TOGETHER WITH ETERNAL LIFE TOO (First Resurrection Timeline, Revelation 20:4 – 6) in Verses above refuting this common fallacy.

 

Here’s a Mystery: Contrary to the popular misunderstanding that the term “… 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” means all Christians get equal rewards (be it thirtyfold, sixtyfold or hundredfold contradicting even the Gold, Silver vs Precious Stones analogy of reward in 1 Corinthians 3:12 too), the True Meaning is Revealed here by CHRIST HIMSELF that the FIRST refers to the HUNDREDFOLD TYPE OF REWARD and it is to be OBTAINED by the WORKS of RENUNCIATION mentioned here ‘as it is Written’.

 

 

Also, the phrase “….  shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. …” points to two things namely:

 

1. “… INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. …” = The “Faith Alone part” (Salvation)

 

2. “… shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD …” = The “Works” part (Reward)

 

It is “not” mentioned that Prayer/ Fasting/ Church Attendance/ Worship / Number of Converts/ Church Size/ How  many people you baptized is going to give this HUNDREDFOLD REWARD but only these things are WRITTEN (if there are other ways, let God Decide One Day but one of these things is certain for a HUNDREFOLD REWARD) namely “… . 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD …” BY CHRIST HIMSELF DIRECTLY (so this is the HIGHEST WISDOM for HEAVENLY REWARDS DOCTRINE).

 

Note: The HUNDREDFOLD Reward is the Highest Reward in His Kingdom as these Verses and First Christianity Quotes have Taught and I have quoted in my free pdf books which you can download from links available on my Facebook Wall or Website if keen.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

A Solemn Reminder

 

Charity Doctrine or Love in Action of Giving and Sharing is every Christian’s Calling by Relative Measure

 

Image illustrates the Parable of the Good Samaritan by Christ Himself (in Luke 10:25 – 37) as the Answer to “What to do for Eternal Life?”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An Example Case Study – Risky Christianity – Kathryn Kuhlman

 

1) Why is this Important?

 

Recently, I saw a few people posting about the women charismatic evangelist Kathryn Kuhlman and so I think there could be “danger” in her ways and so I decided to write this.

 

The “MAIN PROBLEM” in “HER THEOLOGY” and “MIRACLE CLAIMS” is that “SHE SAYS THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT told me this and that” and so if she is “wrong” (quoting the Holy Spirit), the RISK of the UNPARDONABLE SIN is there and so CHRISTIANS who CLAIM that SHE SPOKE by the HOLY SPIRIT could also be led to COMMIT the UNFORGIVABLE BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT under the CONDITION IF SHE WAS WRONG, Verses:

 

“… 31“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 12:31 – 32, NKJV)

 

In contrast, without Quoting the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God but stating it as our own opinion/oracle is “not” damnable as God Himself showed Mercy by His Unchanging Principle as discussed in post in link below or as discussed in the first chapter in this book:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161461938352784

 

I am “not” Judging her “nor” the Christians (even pastors who quote her) that they must go to eternal Hell if wrong (but just pointing out that the risk is really great against them as I shall demonstrate a few proofs which they may have not known about her, and hence may God have Mercy on whom He Wills).

 

However, I don’t need to Judge her and her followers because she is the “pioneer” of how a “woman can become a pastor” and so to have big woman support (against say against 1 Timothy 2:12, 1 Corinthians 14:33 – 34), modern pastors often quote her (example link below):

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/october/kathryn-kuhlman-female-evangelicals-hidden-predecessor.html

 

Note: Regarding my personal standpoint, I have already explained in the past that I am “neutral” about whether “God Showed them this NEW WAY of WOMAN PASTORS etc.” which are only present in the 20^th Century onward but the APPROVED BIBLE WAY of NOT HAVING ANY WOMAN PASTORS and OBEYING OTHER NEW TESTAMENT “WRITTEN” TRADITIONS is what I uphold simply because that WAY CANNOT BE CONDEMNED (by Kathryn Kuhlman or your pastor or whoever) simply because it has been APPROVED IN NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE VERSES (e.g. 1 Corinthians 14:37, 2 Peter 3:2, 1 Timothy 2:12, 1 Corinthians 14:33 – 34). The LACK of WOMAN SUPPORT or their WORDS AGAINST these VERSES doesn’t bother me at all since we are “not” called to ‘exalt miracles nor women’ but THE WRITTEN WORD OF GOD TO HONOUR HIM. Example Verses:

 

1. i) God’s “WRITTEN” WORD does NOT EXALT MIRACLES but says that only an EVIL and ADULTRESS (spiritually and physically) type of GENERATION looks for these

 

“… But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. …” (Matthew 12:39, NKJV)

 

1. ii) The Sign of the HOLY SPIRIT is “not” signs and wonders but how much one can KEEP EVEN THE NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS

 

“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

iii) The HOLY SPIRIT will “not” SPEAK of HIMSELF but only about CHRIST and HIS COMMANDS (which belong to Him)

 

“… Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14HE SHALL GLORIFY ME: for HE SHALL RECEIVE OF MINE, and SHALL SHEW IT UNTO YOU. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 16:13 – 15 , KJV)

 

 

1. iv) The HOLY SPIRIT of GOD DWELLS where GOD’s COMMANDMENTS are OBEYED where by this practice of Woman Pastors or other New Testament Traditions (1 Corinthians 11 to 14), the risk of breaking them as done by MODERN CHURCHES in the 20^th CENTURY ONLY (as all Protestant Founders didn’t break these rules as I have discussed in the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook in example Pages 443 to 465 seem to contradict these Verses as well

 

“… 19“A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. 20At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21He who has MY COMMANDMENTS AND KEEPS THEM, it is HE WHO LOVES ME. And HE WHO LOVES ME will be LOVED BY MY FATHER, and I WILL LOVE HIM and [f]MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:19 – 21, NKJV)

 

So their praising of ‘Kathryn Kuhlman’ or ‘other women pastors’ exalts themselves and their churches or converts but NOT these Bible Verses (and so it can be really ‘risky’). What if I am wrong in “not” endorsing all these modern ways?

 

Ask yourself wisely please: We are following Bible Verses and these guys are the ones doing ‘new ways’ in these aspects. Also, please read the Pages 443 to 465 of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook (as too many details to quote here) and ask yourself whether Blessed Martin Luther (the First Protestant), Blessed John Calvin (Founder of Calvinism), Blessed John Wesley (Founder of Methodism) or even Blessed Charles Spurgeon (the Prince of Preachers) are GOING TO BE UNSAVED or to HELL as they DIDN’T EVEN ALLOW such a POSSIBILITY for WOMEN PASTORS or FOR IGNORING NEW TESTAMENT WRITTEN TRADITIONS where we actually allow it just in case ‘God showed them a new way in the 20^th century onward’. Can you see it?

 

 

If they and Kathryn Kuhlman turn out to be right and God Spoke to her, then “NEITHER DID I COMMIT any BLASPHEMY of the HOLY SPIRIT” as on this cases I often take the NEUTRAL STAND and JUDGE NOT (Matthew 7:1 – 2).

 

 

 

 

2) Reformed Protestants View

 

Also this is the case the REFORMED THEOLOGIANS such as Mr. JUSTIN PETERS could be at risk as they don’t hesitate to call KATHRYN KUHLMAN as a ‘FALSE PROPHET’ (example in image below)

 

 

Source for Image: https://twitter.com/justinpetersmin/status/1080989208611741697?lang=en

 

By “risk” I mean if Kathryn Kuhlman and her supporters are right, then Mr. Justin Peters and the reformed group may be in risk of committing the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. However, let God Alone Decide as he can have Mercy on whomever He Wills.

 

My point is this: Please just follow Written Bible Verses as the ‘Safe Route Scripturally’.

 

If some women don’t want to believe in Christ if the Church obeys says 1 Timothy 2:12 or 1 Corinthians 14:33 – 34, then is that called faith? Faith is “not” putting conditions to please such women in that ‘only if God allows a woman to do this and that in His House’, then that Christianity is to be accepted as this looks more like a type of idolatry or ‘women worship’.

 

Truth is, exalting God is NOT exalting Miracles NOR exalting Kathryn Kuhlman NOR in the NUMBER OF CONVERTS which DO AND PREACH AGAINST NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS but in PREACHING and OBEYING HIS WRITTEN COMMANDS. This position is Biblical and is upheld well by the Reformed Group.

Being “Born Again” is not described as Miracles, Speaking in Tongues, Understanding Prophecy as all that are “not” Commands because these Verses next Prove that these are Gifts which are Good but not the “Most Excellent Way of Agape (Love)” where “Love in Action is the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Commands”, Example Verses (which also proves that not all Christians have these Gifts but are still “Born Again”):

 

“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY [of Agape/Love]. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)

 

“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)

 

There’s more because Christ’s Own Most Blessed Words below may Reveal the “Why” part:

 

“… But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and NOT DO THE THINGS WHICH I SAY? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:46, NKJV)

 

The same ones who called Him “… Lord, Lord …” for MANY (meaning “not” few, only “few” will be right among the End-Time Christianity which remains when He Returns) are DENIED for NOT DOING HIS COMMANDS to BUILD THE HOUSE on the ROCK but focused on spiritual gifts of ‘… casting out demons, prophesying, and miracles …’ instead in Matthew 7:20 – 24 (‘same phrase used’) which I have already discussed in this Book in Pages 41 to 42.

 

 

 

 

 

3) Kathryn Kuhlman’s “Possible” Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit Example

 

1. i) Kathryn Kuhlman clearly believed and taught Pre-Tribulation Rapture

 

Example quote:

 

“… The Rapture comes, the Great catching up comes on the very threshold of the Great Tribulation. First the rapture, when Jesus comes for His Church, 7 years of Great Tribulation, suffering as this world has never known. Neither will man ever know such suffering again. We are on the very threshold on that now. The world at this very hour even when I’m speaking to you is on the very threshold of that time of great suffering of great tribulation. Following the 7 years of Great Tribulation, then we have Jesus coming back to earth in bodily form.  …” – Kathryn Kuhlman

 

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh15oLDnng8

 

The fuller Video for excerpt above may be found in the ‘official Kathryn Kuhlman supporting type of channel’ in link here too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDhl8dLePsg

 

Regarding “Post-Tribulation Rapture”, I have discussed it in Pages 476 to 534 in the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook where the quotes from Protestant reformers such as Blessed Martin Luther (the First Protestant), Blessed John Calvin (Founder of Calvinism), Blessed John Wesley (Founder of Methodism) or even Blessed Charles Spurgeon (the Prince of Preachers) or William Tyndale (Important English Translator of Bible for Protestants) and others taught “Post Tribulation Rapture only” as per the early Church Fathers of First Christianity too CONTRADICTING clearly KATHRYN KUHLMAN’s Words here.

 

Which Doctrine is most likely right?

 

Kathryn Kuhlman’s Pre-Tribulation Rapture Doctrine or “Post-Tribulation Rapture” Doctrine by Blessed Martin Luther (the First Protestant), Blessed John Calvin (Founder of Calvinism), Blessed John Wesley (Founder of Methodism) or even Blessed Charles Spurgeon (the Prince of Preachers) or William Tyndale (Important English Translator of Bible for Protestants) and others with CHURCH FATHERS too?

 

1. ii) Kathryn Kuhlman MAY HAVE COMMITTED THE BLASHPHEMY of THE HOLY SPIRIT when she taught her Pre-Tribulation Rapture Doctrine

 

How? To quote (from 1 minutes 20 seconds onward in this video):

 

“… I believe that THIS IS THE VERY LAST YOUTH GENERATION BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION. I believe that I got to believe it KNOWING the WORD OF PROPHECY as I DO. This is the LAST YOUTH GENERATION BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION. SITTING HERE IN THIS ASSEMBLY IN THIS MONDAY MORNING, face it, face that, FACE GOD, face reality, FACE TRUTH. YOU YOUNG PEOPLE [SITTING HERE] are the LAST YOUTH GENERATION in THIS DISPENSATION. …” – Kathryn Kuhlman

 

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LmRCqhCS9I

 

Comments:

 

1. Kathryn Kuhlman’s earlier quote in (i) itself proves in ‘her own words’ that the ‘Great Tribulation’ she is referring to is the Final One after the Church is Raptured first in a “Pre-Tribulation Rapture”.

 

2. In this Video, if she was discussing her opinion and she turns out to be wrong doctrinally, I can see God’s Mercy as every Christian could have some parts of Doctrine Wrong either Knowingly or Unknowingly. However, sadly this is MOST LIKELY NOT the case since SHE QUOTES her “Gift of Prophecy” (equivalent to QUOTING the HOLY SPIRIT telling it as many typical Charismatics do) when she claimed THAT THE YOUTH GENERATION in her TIME WAS THE LAST YOUTH before the FINAL GREAT TRIBULATION as unless God has Mercy, this can be an UNFORGIVABLE BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE MOST BLESSED HOLY SPIRIT of GOD.

 

3. Her Prophecy here is clearly false as she herself died in February 20, 1976 which means even if ‘this prophecy’ was made in 1976, then even AN INFANT (BABY) in her congregation that day would today (in 2022) be 2022 – 1976 = 46 years old which is NOT a YOUTH ANYMORE. The extended political definition of Youth itself reaches up to 40 years of age only. Usually the age 30 and above is considered a MAN (by Jewish Definition itself as CHRIST HIMSELF started ministry at the AGE OF 30 only) and so the age of 46 is definitely NOT a YOUTH today and the neither PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE NOR the GREAT TRIBULATION has occurred.
4. She claimed the “Gift of Prophecy” when she told that Prophecy of hers namely ‘… This is the LAST YOUTH GENERATION BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION. SITTING HERE IN THIS ASSEMBLY IN THIS MONDAY MORNING …’ referring to the “Source of her gifts” which puts everything else very “risky” as Using the Name of God in Vain (one of the 10 Commandments) and especially the Name of the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God in Vain may merit the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which has NO FORGIVENESS as CHRIST HIMSELF has WARNED CLEARLY (e.g. Matthew 12:30 – 32).

 

5. So Pastors and Christians who quote her likewise could also be “RISKING COMMITTING the BLASPHEMY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT likewise” and though I don’t judge, I warn of the risks and do “not” need their endorsement “nor” the endorsement of their women who quote like this either as we will stick to New Testament “Written” Traditions and “Guard our Tongue to actually honour God”. All the best and may God have Mercy on whom He Wills.

 

6. Since her Prophecy above did “not” come to pass, we don’t ned to condemn her but we need “not” consider her either as per Verses below (let God Judge her):

 

“… 19And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. 20But THE PROPHET WHO PRESUMES TO SPEAK A WORD IN MY NAME, WHICH I HAVE NOT COMMANDED HIM TO SPEAK, or who speaks in the name of other gods, THAT PROPHET SHALL DIE.’ 21And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’— 22WHEN A PROPHET SPEAKS IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, IF THE THING DOES NOT HAPPEN OR COME TO PASS, THAT IS THE THING WHICH THE LORD HAS NOT SPOKEN; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; YOU SHALL NOT BE AFRAID OF HIM. …” (Deuteronomy 18:19 – 22, NKJV)

 

 

 

Unlike we who give some “possibility” that maybe she can find God’s Mercy, the “Reformed Theologians” are “not” so flexible and condemn Kathryn Kuhlman harshly, examples in links below:

 

https://safeguardyoursoul.com/kathryn-kuhlman-exposed/

 

https://discernmentministriesinternational.wordpress.com/category/kathryn-kuhlman/

 

 

7. The scary thing is that even “Benny Hinn” has quoted that he shared the ‘same source of power from her somewhat’, example quote:

 

“… Benny Hinn was born in Israel and eventually migrated to Canada. He started off in the Greek Orthodox church, but then he gravitated more towards Pentecostal and charismatic Christianity. As Hinn tells the story, one of the most important formative influences for him was a woman named Kathryn Kuhlman, who was a very influential charismatic healing evangelist in the 1960s and 70s. He attended a Kuhlman miracle service in 1973, and he modeled a lot of his ministry after hers. …”

 

Source: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/quick-to-listen/prosperity-gospel-benny-hinn-health-wealth-joel-osteen.html

 

To quote from the #CharityDoctrineBook (more details in Pages 19 to 22):

Pastor Benny Hinn is very important to many evangelical Christians especially to those in the Charismatic Movement denomination and Churches because they believe that he speaks directly to the Holy Spirit and can do Miracles such as Casting out of Demons, Prophesying etc. Here are direct proof videos in his own words WHERE HE REPENTS OF THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qUQwmwC7Oc

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNVR_HWzxY

 

Example Quote:

 

“… it’s an offense to the Holy Spirit to place a price on the gospel.” … “I’m done with it. I will never again ask you to give a thousand or whatever amount, because I think the Holy Ghost is just fed up with it. . . . . I think that hurts the gospel.” … “I think giving has become such a gimmick that it’s making me sick to my stomach.” … “I think it’s time we say it like it is: The gospel is not for sale. And the blessings of God are not for sale, and miracles are not for sale. And prosperity is not for sale.” …” – Pastor Benny Hinn

 

Source:

 

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justin-taylor/gospel-not-sale-benny-hinn-abandoning-prosperity-gospel/

 

So that means there’s no more ‘faith for money’ right?

 

Comment: Pastor Benny Hinn’s own words prove that the “Holy Spirit” never APPROVED of his PROSPERITY GOSPEL and is ANGRY of it. So, I don’t know if those who simply Prophesied Money in God’s Name like that calling it Blessings by using the Most Blessed Name of the Holy Spirit of God can be forgiven or not (according to whether it is considered the Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit or not as per Matthew 12:31 – 32 and as Blessed Martin Luther the First Reformer Prophesied as discussed in an earlier post below regarding such “Many” who may be “Denied” including those who “Prophesied” as Christ Clearly Warned in Matthew 7:21 – 23), but it’s “Possible”. Maybe God Will Forgive if they Repent now and vice versa (Let Him Alone Decide):

 

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10160885716652784/?substory_index=0

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Condition for HEIR, SONS of GOD GLORY in CHRIST: Suffering (not Prosperity)

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161517158587784

 

Phrase: “SUFFERED a while” (Verse in image)

 

 

Another Verse:

 

“… For OUR LIGHT AFFLICTION, which is but for a moment, is WORKING FOR US a far more EXCEEDING AND ETERNAL WEIGHT OF GLORY, …” (2 Corinthians 4:17, NKJV)

 

Examples: So, are we “SUFFERING” for “TEACHING AND DOING” HIS COMMANDS in some way or are we “Reaping Prosperity” using His Name but with new modern ways to please men & women against NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS? Example Verses where these “traditions” were “not” just kept in the Corinthian Church but elsewhere too:

 

“… 16Therefore I URGE YOU, IMITATE ME. 17For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and FAITHFUL son in the Lord, who will remind you of MY WAYS IN CHRIST, AS I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH. …” (1 Corinthians 4:16 – 17, NKJV)

 

“… Now I PRAISE YOU, BRETHREN, that you remember me in all things and KEEP THE TRADITIONS JUST AS I DELIVERED THEM TO YOU. …” (1 Corinthians 11:2, NKJV)

 

“… Therefore, brethren, STAND FAST AND HOLD THE TRADITIONS which YOU WERE TAUGHT, WHETHER BY WORD OR OUR EPISTLE. …” (2 Thessalonians 2:15, NKJV)

 

“… But we COMMAND YOU, BRETHREN, in the NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, that you WITHDRAW FROM EVERY BROTHER who walks DISORDERLY and NOT ACCORDING TO THE TRADITION which he received from us. …” (2 Thessalonians 3:6, NKJV)

 

Comment: The irony is that today, those who Preach and Teach these New Testament “Traditions” are rejected from “some Churches” while those who teach against it are celebrated.

 

No “SUFFERING for CHRIST’S COMMANDS or for GOSPEL COMMANDS” means one is “NOT” the ELECT/HEIRS/SONS of God, Verses:

 

“… 17and IF CHILDREN, THEN HEIRS—HEIRS OF GOD and JOINT HEIRS WITH CHRIST, IF INDEED WE SUFFER WITH HIM, that WE MAY ALSO BE GLORIFIED TOGETHER. 18For I consider that the SUFFERINGS OF THIS PRESENT TIME are NOT WORTHY TO BE COMPARED with the GLORY WHICH SHALL BE REVEALED IN US. 19For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the REVEALING OF THE SONS OF GOD. …” (Romans 8:17 – 19, NKJV)

 

Condition part from the above: “… JOINT HEIRS WITH CHRIST, IF INDEED WE SUFFER WITH HIM …”.

That’s the Cause of JOY in every True Christian, which is SUFFERING now for the GLORY of the RESURRECTION ahead and NOT PROSPERITY NOW, Verse:

 

“… but REJOICE TO THE EXTENT that YOU PARTAKE OF CHRIST’S SUFFERINGS, that WHEN GLORY IS REVEALED, you may also be GLAD WITH EXCEEDING JOY. …” (1 Peter 4:13, NKJV)

 

Every True Christian ought to know and partake of this SUFFERING, Verse:

 

“… that I MAY KNOW HIM and the power of His resurrection, and the FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERINGS, being conformed to His death, …” (Philippians 3:10, NKJV)

 

Phrase: “… FELLOWSHIP OF HIS SUFFERINGS,  …”

 

Another set of Verses:

 

“… 4who comforts us in ALL OUR TRIBULATION, that we may be able to comfort THOSE WHO ARE IN ANY [A]TROUBLE, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 5For as the SUFFERINGS OF CHRIST ABOUND IN US, so our [b]consolation also abounds through Christ. 6Now if we are afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effective for ENDURING THE SAME SUFFERINGS WHICH WE ALSO SUFFER. Or if we are comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation. 7And our hope for you is steadfast, because WE KNOW THAT as YOU ARE PARTAKERS OF THE SUFFERINGS, SO ALSO YOU WILL PARTAKE OF THE CONSOLATION. …” (2 Corinthians 1:4 – 7, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

Common Fallacy in Theology, example question: ‘… If Christ Suffered for us already, why we need to suffer? That means we must be in prosperity, right? …’

 

Wrong. No such selfishness exists in True Christianity. A self centered Christianity (which is “not” His) may Teach that. True Christianity Teaches that “CHRISTIANS must SUFFER FOR THE GOSPEL in some way to FULFILL HIS WORD to BENEFIT THE CHURCH (refering to “People/believers”, “not” building nor denomination) in some contribution” to ATTAIN TO GLORY after fulfilling CHRIST IN YOU via such ACTION (the “JESUS in YOU ” principle), Verses:

 

“… 24I now REJOICE IN MY SUFFERINGS FOR YOU, and FILL UP IN MY FLESH WHAT IS LACKING IN THE AFFLICTIONS OF CHRIST, for the sake of His body, WHICH IS THE CHURCH, 25of which I became a minister according to the [g]stewardship from God which was given to me for you, TO FULFILL THE WORD OF GOD, 26the [h]mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. 27To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: [i]WHICH IS CHRIST IN YOU, THE HOPE OF GLORY.  …” (Colossians 1:24 – 27, NKJV)

 

Comment: A Christianity which sells services and even spiritual things for a “fee” (money) is “not” fulfilling this rightly but only those who do a FREE LABOR OF LOVE for the GOSPEL IN SOME WAY, as these Verses has WARNED:

 

“… 16For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for necessity is laid upon me; yes, woe is me if I do not preach the gospel! 17For if I do this willingly, I have a reward; but if against my will, I have been entrusted with a stewardship. 18WHAT IS MY REWARD THEN? That WHEN I PREACH THE GOSPEL, I MAY PRESENT THE GOSPEL [D]OF CHRIST WITHOUT CHARGE, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel. …” (1 Corinthians 9:16 – 18, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1) There is nothing great in “Preaching the Gospel” because it’s a necessity

 

Phrase: “… 16For if I preach the gospel, I have nothing to boast of, for necessity is laid upon me …”

 

2) To not Preach the Gospel brings a curse of “Woe” to such Christians for selfishness and those who Preach it save themselves from that woe and so that’s the reason given here as to why it’s actually “nothing to boast of”

 

Phrase: “… yes, woe is me if I do not preach the gospel! …”

 

3) Heavenly Reward is only for those who “willingly” Preach the Gospel

 

“… 17For if I do this willingly, I have a reward …”

4) The “Reward” Spoken of here seems to be only for the times when WE PREACH THE GOSPEL FOR FREE (i.e. WITHOUT CHARGE, or when we are not paid for it like a work)

 

Phrase: “… 18WHAT IS MY REWARD THEN? That WHEN I PREACH THE GOSPEL, I MAY PRESENT THE GOSPEL [D]OF CHRIST WITHOUT CHARGE,  …”

 

5) To charge high salaries or receive financial rewards for “Preaching the Gospel” which includes selling God’s Word in expensive books to expensive Bible Courses and seminars etc. (the Context here) seems to be a type of “abuse” (let God Judge where the threshold for ‘taking salary as need counts and beyond which is considered abuse’ as this Verse clearly proves that God Measures it that way)

 

Phrase: “… that I may not ABUSE my authority in the gospel. …”

In short, “God’s Work, God’s Rules”.

 

6) Context

 

We know that the context above is True especially since just before speaking the above part, in this Same Topic/Same Context, Apostle St. Paul wrote the following that a pastor or equivalent can only take “NEEDS” (phrase: “LIVE” from the Gospel, not Prosperity) level SALARY from MONEY COLLECTED IN THE NAME OF GOD and yes, NOT PROSPERITY type of HIGH WAGES (where we don’t need to Judge those who do as LET GOD JUDGE THEM ACCORDING TO THESE WRITTEN VERSES) Verses:

 

“… 14Even so The Lord Has Commanded That THOSE WHO PREACH THE GOSPEL should LIVE FROM THE GOSPEL. 15But I have USED NONE OF THESE THINGS, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void.  …” (1 Corinthians 9:14 – 15, NKJV)

 

Note: For “higher reward”, such pastors or priests should try at least in some time in their lives to “… USE NONE OF THESE THINGS …” refering to “paid” Gospel Service (phrase: “… THOSE WHO PREACH THE GOSPEL should LIVE FROM THE GOSPEL …”) To MAXIMIZE THEIR REWARDS one day if they are keen. Example: They can share Gospel Knowledge or Related Studies or Wisdom for free via their Social Platforms or Websites and NOT DO CHARGED WITH MONEY BIBLE COURSES or BIBLE SEMINARS only.

Comment: Any Church or gathering of believers must ask themselves if they are providing any FREE OF CHARGE GOSPEL THINGS or MATERIAL THINGS to its OWN CONGREGATION and the COMMUNITY AROUND IT BY RELATIVE MEASURE based on these Verses to receive an HEAVENLY REWARD and to RIGHTLY USE THE MONEY COLLECTED IN GOD’S MOST HOLY NAME. So it’s not only for pastors these Verses are Written but for any Christian to fulfill them in relative measure “willingly”.

 

“…  FREELY YOU HAVE RECEIVED, FREELY GIVE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 10:8, NKJV)

 

Christ Will Compare as He Did with regards to these two Churches from the Book of Revelation where the “Prosperity Church” was “Rejected”, to quote:

 

1. i) Gold Type of Faith based on Voluntary Suffering for the Gospel

 

“… 9“I know your works, TRIBULATION, and POVERTY  (but YOU ARE RICH); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a [e]synagogue of Satan.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 2:9, NKJV)

 

Note: This Church in Verse above suffered TRIBULATION (Persecution for faith) and POVERTY (being poor in material wealth or money literally) but are said to be RICH (in HEAVEN’s Rewards Perspective).

 

1. ii) Gold Type of Faith based on Voluntary Charity Doctrine Lifestyle

 

Spiritually Poor Church = Prosperity Church with health and wealth but “no” Works of Sharing & Giving:

 

“… 15“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because YOU ARE LUKEWARM, and neither [k]cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I AM RICH, HAVE BECOME WEALTHY, and HAVE NEED OF NOTHING’—and do not know that YOU ARE WRETCHED, MISERABLE, POOR, BLIND, AND NAKED— 18I counsel you to BUY FROM ME GOLD REFINED IN THE FIRE, that YOU MAY BE RICH; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:15 – 18, NKJV)

iii) LABOR of LOVE Verse as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE for Matured Christians

 

“… 1Therefore, LEAVING THE DISCUSSION OF THE ELEMENTARY PRINCIPLES OF CHRIST, let us GO ON TO [a]PERFECTION, NOT laying again the FOUNDATION of REPENTANCE FROM DEAD WORKS  and OF FAITH TOWARD GOD, 2of the DOCTRINE OF BAPTISMS, of LAYING OF HANDS, of RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, and of ETERNAL JUDGMENT. 3And THIS [b]we will do IF GOD PERMITS. … 9But, beloved, we are confident of BETTER THINGS  CONCERNING YOU, YES, THINGS THAT ACCOMPANY SALVATION, though we speak in this manner. 10For God is not unjust to forget YOUR WORK and [d]LABOR OF LOVE which you have shown toward His name, IN THAT YOU HAVE MNISTERED TO THE SAINTS, and DO MINISTER. 11And WE DESIRE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU SHOW THE SAME DILLIGENCE TO THE FULL ASSURANCE OF HOPE UNTIL THE END, 12that you do not become [e]sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience INHERIT the promises. …” (Hebrews 6:1 – 3, 9 – 12, NKJV)

 

Comment: Surprising to most, the “only” Doctrine Toward “Perfection” mentioned immediately next (after Hebrews 6:1 – 3)  after Warning of some backsliding Christians who will “not” even pass this Basic/Elementary Doctrines (in Hebrews 6:4 – 8), not quoted here to focus on this core part) which turns out to be … (you guessed it) … chiefly of the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE in Verses above clearly with “no” other religious action mentioned (Hebrews 6:9 – 12).

 

Yes, the meaning of “… 32REMEMBER LOT’S WIFE. 33WHOEVER SEEKS TO SAVE HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, AND WHOEVER LOSES HIS LIFE WILL PRESERVE IT.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 17:32 – 33, NKJV) …” in the Context of Remember Lot’s Wife is clearly “LOVING THE PROSPERITY LIFE IN THIS WORLD NOW” as another Verse in this Same Context (Wording) Describes it below clearly as it is Written (as part of the “Doctrine of Renunciation” in some way):

 

“… He who LOVES HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, and he who HATES HIS LIFE IN THIS WORLD WILL KEEP IT FOR ETERNAL LIFE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 12:25, NKJV)

 

Example: Lose one’s life for Fulfilling the Gospel Commands in some way (which takes away your time and especially money) such as the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Commands of Christ:

 

“… For whoever DESIRES TO SAVE HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, but whoever LOSES HIS LIFE FOR MY SAKE and THE GOSPEL’S WILL SAVE IT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 8:35, NKJV)

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

2 Peter 3:7 – Same Word and Last Days Prophecy

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161517820172784

 

Verses:

 

“… 2that YOU MAY BE MINDFUL OF THE WORDS which were spoken before by the holy prophets, AND OF THE COMMANDMENT OF [a]US, THE APOSTLES OF THE LORD AND SAVIOR, 3knowing this first: THAT SCOFFERS WILL COME IN THE LAST DAYS, walking according to their own lusts, 4and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5For this they willfully forget: that BY THE WORD OF GOD the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved BY THE SAME WORD, are RESERVED FOR FIRE until THE DAY OF JUDGMENT and [b]PERDITION OF UNGODLY MEN. …” (2 Peter 3:2 – 7, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1) The Context is about “SCOFFERS” in the “LAST DAYS” Timeline

 

“… THAT SCOFFERS WILL COME IN THE LAST DAYS …”

 

2) The Context also proves something interesting namely that FOR THE LAST DAYS the NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDMENTS by APOSTLES ONLY (example: 1 Corinthians 11 to 14) are to be observed

 

“… 2that YOU MAY BE MINDFUL OF THE WORDS which were spoken before by the holy prophets, AND OF THE COMMANDMENT OF [a]US, THE APOSTLES OF THE LORD AND SAVIOR, 3knowing this first: THAT SCOFFERS WILL COME IN THE LAST DAYS, …”

 

 

Doesn’t it clearly mean in Verses above that whilst SCOFFERS are going to be around in the LAST DAYS, ANY COMMANDS by an APOSTLE (New Testament Verses) are to be OBEYED by True Christians even in these LAST DAYS TIMELINE which strongly opposes the “Progressive Revelation movement”.

Regardless, obeying and Teaching these New Testament COMMANDS FROM THE APOSTLES is already ACCEPTED BY SCRIPTURE 100% and hence has NO CONDEMNATION, Recap from above:

“… 2that YOU MAY BE MINDFUL OF THE WORDS which were spoken before by the holy prophets, AND OF THE COMMANDMENT OF [a]US, THE APOSTLES OF THE LORD AND SAVIOR …”

 

Example:

“… 33For GOD IS NOT A GOD OF DISORDER BUT OF PEACE—AS IN ALL THE CONGREGATIONS OF THE LORD’S PEOPLE. 34Women f should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.  36Or did the word of God originate with you? Or are you the only people it has reached? 37If ANYONE THINKS THEY ARE A PROPHET OR OTHERWISE GIFTED BY THE SPIRIT, LET THEM ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHAT I AM WRITING TO YOU IS THE LORD’S COMMAND. 38But IF ANYONE IGNORES THIS, THEY WILL THEMSELVES BE IGNORED …” (1 Corinthians 14:33 – 38, NIV)

 

I am “not” judging those who break this command in some Modern Churches because if God Really told them a new way, so be it but similarly they should NOT condemn us for following this old way as 2 Peter 3:2 above too approves the COMMANDMENT of the LORD through any APOSTLE (Apostle Paul in this case) can be OBEYED AND TAUGHT with NO CONDEMNATION. The risk is theirs and not for those who Preach “what is Written”.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

Within A Covenant, God’s Word never Changes

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161518752262784

 

Verse:

 

“… MY COVENANT I WILL NOT BREAK, NOR ALTER THE WORD THAT HAS GONE OUT OF MY LIPS. …” (Psalm 89:34, NKJV)

 

This is why the “Safe Route Scripturally” would be to obey the “New Testament Commands and Traditions as it is Written”.

 

If someone says that God showed them a “new way” against New Testament Verses/Tradition, if one day God Says He Told them so they’re safe but if He Says that He Never Commanded any new way, what are they going to answer then? That’s why we never make a “Doctrine” out of “Unwritten ways”.

 

Also, as long as our speculations are “not Doctrine” but a “possibility” only which does “not” contradict any of the New Testament Commands, it is safe and any error is “human error” only because we “never claimed God told it or equivalent”.

 

Please remember that claiming “God told me is very dangerous as even the case of Ananias just lying about keeping some money back went to Hell straight for lying to the Holy Spirit”, Verses:

 

“… 3But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” 5Then Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and breathed his last. …” (Acts 5:3 – 5, NKJV)

 

 

Comment: The “thief on the cross was saved but Ananias and Sapphira wasn’t” even though the latter’s sin seemed only with words because of “LYING to the HOLY SPIRIT”.

“… 31“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come. …” (Matthew 12:31 – 32, NKJV)

Comment: Today, we have some Christians claiming the Holy Spirit told them this and that especially in regards to “money/blessings” and if “they lied” likewise, could they be considered to have committed the Unforgivable Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit likewise? So the Safe Route Scripturally is to avoid all this and stick to the Written Commands instead as it is Written which is 100% approved in Holy Scripture.

In other words, if one claims the “Holy Spirit told me or equivalent”, they must be 100% correct or if not can risk this case as Scripture has Warned. As for me, that’s why I just prefer to quote Bible Verses as it is Written for these Commands.

 

 

 

Are we “Ashamed” of “Some Words of Christ?”

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161524146047784

 

Firstly, Preaching to Save sinners from Hell is “not” the most glorious type of conversion if you understand these “SAVED BY FIRE BUT WITH LOSS VERSES“:

 

“… 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.  …” (1 Corinthians 3:14 – 15, NKJV)

 

 

Comment: This “Saved by Fire” case can include some of those whom are included in John 3:16’s “whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life” and so it’s “not” as honourable as the Salvation of other Christians who adorn their Faith with Works accordingly to HONOUR GOD in ACTION as the other part of these Verses Describe as “Gold, Silver and Precious Stones” type of Reward (1 Corinthians 3:11 – 13).

 

 

Indeed, the Preaching about Christ is incomplete if we do “not” Preach “His New Testament Commands”.

 

 

Yes, preaching the Gospel is “not” just Preaching about Hell only or about Holiness only but also about the Charity Doctrine and Other Words by Christ Himself regarding Sanctification to personal order to Church Order or the words through His Apostles too as it is Written in New Testament Verses.

 

 

 

 

 

Verses (in image too):

 

“… 23Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him DENY HIMSELF, and TAKE UP HIS CROSS [B]DAILY, and follow Me. 24For whoever DESIRES TO SAVE HIS LIFE WILL LOSE IT, but whoever LOSES HIS LIFE FOR MY SAKE WILL SAVE IT. 25For what profit is it to a man if he GAINS THE WHOLE WORLD, and is HIMSELF DESTROYED OR LOST? 26For whoever is ASHAMED OF ME AND MY WORDS, of him THE SON OF MAN WILL BE ASHAMED when HE COMES IN HIS OWN GLORY, and in His Father’s, and of the holy angels …” (Luke 9:23 – 26, NKJV)

 

More details in example post in link below (with links and explanations of CHRIST’S WORDS in comments there too):

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161508651327784/

 

 

 

 

Please notice carefully that Christ Emphasizes clearly to the Pharisees (who did ALMS/CHARITY with MONEY COLLECTED in GOD’S NAME who thought that they are exempt from this CHARITY DOCTRINE) to GIVE ALMS from “WHAT THEY HAVE” instead (meaning from their “own money or possessions” to be included and “not” Church Money or People’s Giving only) in Luke 11:41 to FULFILL THE LOVE OF GOD and JUSTICE part of “God’s Will” (as Luke 11:42 clearly points) clearly as “it is Written” as part of “… These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE. …” Verses:

 

“…. 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For YOU TITHE mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:41 – 42, NKJV)

 

Please don’t be deceived as only those who do “God’s Will” Enter Heaven (and this is clearly God’s Will as Christ Reveals the Charity Doctrine above lest we hear “I never knew you” despite converting “many” via “… Casting out demons, Prophesying and  Miracles …”  due to “LAWLESSNESS” as Matthew 7:20 – 24 has WARNED as these aspects of LAW CHRIST has AFFIRMED for the New Testament clearly too here (inclusive).

 

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

All Major False Teachings stem from “Prosperity” and “Earthly” Desire Doctrines

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161528863447784

 

 

Example: The Quote in image is “non-Biblical”. Here’s the proof (please consider both and decide for yourselves which is Written for “New Testament times”):

 

The earliest New Testament Christian Church till before the conversion of Emperor Constantine had SUFFERING, POVERTY, DANGER, NO RIGHTS TO PRACTICE THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION (BEING PERSECUTED), NO EARTHLY GLORY and INNER PEACE with not necessarily worldly happiness which is OPPOSITE to each claim made in image here, proved “Sola Scriptura” and with Actual “First Christianity” which had the “Most Accurate Doctrine”.

 

SUFFERING —> Opposite is EARTHLY PEACE (“No” Cross to Carry Daily)

POVERTY  —> Opposite is PROSPERITY

DANGER —> Opposite is SAFETY

 

 NO RIGHTS TO PRACTICE THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION (BEING PERSECUTED)

—> Opposite is CIVIL LIBERTY

 

NO EARTHLY GLORY

—> Opposite is EARTHLY GLORY Context here

 

and INNER PEACE with not necessarily worldly happiness

—> Opposite is SOUL BEING HAPPY WITH WORLDLY THINGS

 

This is NOT the “PRESENCE OF GOD” as Verses next by CHRIST HIMSELF will Prove clearly.

 

Example Verses:

 

1) If a Christian lives “Godly”, “all” of them will face some type of “persecution”  (be it “financially” or “physically” or “economically” etc.), Verse:

 

“… Yes, and ALL WHO DESIRE TO LIVE GODLY IN CHRIST JESUS WILL SUFFER PERSECUTION. …” (2 Timothy 3:12, NKJV)

 

Note: Please notice the word “ALL” in the Verse above in this General Verse for “PERSECUTION” (“not” Prosperity) which is the “True Price” to pay for “GODLINESS IN CHRIST JESUS”.

 

2) Christ Himself Affirms this as the only two things which is common to “ALL CHRISTIANS” is:

 

1. i) TRIBULATION (trouble)
2. ii) PEACE (Inner Peace in the Trouble)

 

Verse:

“… These things I have spoken to you, that in Me YOU MAY HAVE PEACE. In the WORLD YOU WILL HAVE TRIBULATION; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 16:33, NKJV)

 

Please don’t be deceived as there will “not” be a different way than what is Written for these “New Testament times”  where the “Old Testament prosperity” ways do “not” apply as “only what Christ Has Re-enforced for this New Testament” holds, Verse:

 

“… Truly, these TIMES OF IGNORANCE GOD OVERLOOKED, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, …” (Acts 17:30, NKJV)

 

Comment: The same way Old Testament times they were allowed to have “more than one wife” or “own slaves” but “not” allowed now, similarly the Old Testament ones were allowed to be “prosperous” likewise with “worldly things” but NOT NOW IN THE NEW TESTAMENT TIMES as CHRIST HIMSELF has COMMANDED AGAINST IT in many New Testament Verses, examples: Yes, CHRIST links “treasure” to the CONDITION OF THE HEART (and so there’s “no” earthly prosperity Christian with a perfect heart according to God’s Will)

 

“… 19“DO NOT LAY UP FOR YOURSELVES TREASURES ON EARTH, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20but LAY UP FOR YOURSELVES TREASURES IN HEAVEN, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 6:19 – 20, NKJV)

 

Matthew doesn’t record the details but on this same Topic, Luke records that the CHARITY DOCTRINE is the RIGHT HEART GOD INTENDS IN HIS WILL in regards to EARTHLY WEALTH to attain to HEAVENLY TREASURE, Verses:

 

“…  31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For WHERE YOUR TREASURE IS, THERE YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)

“… 15But He said to them, “Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed; for NOT EVEN when ONE IS AFFLUENT does his life CONSIST OF HIS POSSESSIONS.”  … 21 So is he who LAYS UP TREASURE FOR HIMSELF, and is NOT RICH TOWARD GOD …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:15, 21, NKJV)

 

No one can do a “New Way” against “What Christ Said”. Same Rule for each Christian “as it is Written”.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

The fall of Judas the first church treasurer

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161531193297784

 

Please note carefully that ‘Judas used to take from it as he wills’.

 

“…Judas did not say this because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief. As keeper of the money bag, he used to take from what was put into it. …” (John 12:6, BSB)

 

(and that’s the Biblical Definition of “Thief” as this Verse calls him that and gives this “only reason” here and thieves will not inherit the Kingdom of God in 1 Corinthians 6:10 – so with ‘money collected in the Name of God, based on this Verse alone, will we be considered “thieves” if we ‘do as we will with it’ [e.g. “Prosperity”] instead of ‘Giving to the Poor’ (Charity Doctrine) as implied in this Verse so clearly ‘as it is Written’?).

Comments (Details):

 

1) “… Judas did not say this because he cared about the poor …” = Judas did NOT have the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE

 

2) “… because he was a thief. As keeper of the money bag, he used to take from what was put into it. …” = Judas fulfilled this Biblical Definition of a “THIEF” which is taking “CHURCH MONEY/Money Collected in the Name of God” as “he wills” (for “Prosperity” or “Self-Indulgence”) instead of GIVING it to the POOR (as the Context here warrants).

 

3) If earthly thieves will “not” inherit the Kingdom of God, how will those who “steal Church Money or Money collect in the Name of God” via “wilful spending and Prosperity” instead of “Giving to the Poor” as John 12:6 clearly Reveals here in depth?

“… NOR THIEVES, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners WILL INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD. …” (1 Corinthians 6:10, NKJV)

Note: the “Covetous” is mentioned differently from “Thieves” in this Verse itself were the “Covetous” itself reveals itself in “Prosperity” too and neither inherit the Kingdom of God.

 

 

 

His Commands include Faith + Holiness + Charity Doctrine + Personal Order + Church Order

 

Example Posts for Details:

 

1) Faith + Holiness + Charity Doctrine

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161508651327784/

 

2) Personal Order + Church Order

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161517820172784/

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

Mystery of Whitewashed Tombs Doctrine – Holiness without the Charity Doctrine and with Prosperity instead

 

Source Post: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161531232042784

 

The Bible does “not” record “Judas” doing “any other sin” be it “adultery, murder, witchcraft, idolatry, extortion or anything else” EXCEPT BETRAYING CHRIST for MONEY (Matthew 26:15) and THIS ROBBING of “MONEY COLLECTED in the NAME OF GOD for his SELF PROSPERITY as HE WILLED instead of GIVING it to THE POOR” (implied on John 12:6) which made him about the ‘worst sinner of all time’.

 

That should reveal to us that MONEY SINS are the “Worst there is” and it is also clear in the “lives of the Pharisees likewise” (whom Christ attacked vehemently) where CHRIST DOES NOT point once that the Pharisees committed “adultery, murder, witchcraft, idolatry,” BUT HE POINTED their “PROSPERITY SINS” (Christ’s Phrase “Self Indulgence” in Matthew 23:25) with “Tithe collecting” (for self survival) but NOT CARING for the ALMSGIVING (CHARITY DOCTRINE) and especially “not” with their money as even Luke 11:39 – 42 has clearly Described this Context in Christ’s Most Blessed Words as it is Written calling them “whitewashed tombs” (because ‘outwardly they were religious in praying, fasting and Church Attendance with NO adultery, NO Murder, NO Witchcraft, NO idolatry etc’). To quote:

 

“… 25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you CLEANSE THE OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and dish, but INSIDE THEY ARE FULL OF EXTORTION and [l]SELF-INDULGENCE. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also. 27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like WHITEWASHED TOMBS which indeed appear BEAUTIFUL OUTWARDLY, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also OUTWARDLY APPEAR RIGHTEOUS TO MEN, but INSIDE YOU ARE FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND LAWLESSNESS. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 23:25 – 28, NKJV)

 

“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For YOU TITHE mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE. 43Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the [m]best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces. 44Woe to you, [n]scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like graves which are not seen, and the men who walk over them are not aware of them.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 45, NKJV)

 

The Phrase “…. These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE.  …” is inclusive of the ONLY RELIGIOUS ACT CHRIST MENTIONS HERE (Context as ‘it is Written) referring to “… 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” which is the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE which is a MUST for any TRUE CHRISTIAN (according to ‘Relative Measure’, implied) as CHRIST DIDN’T SAY it is an “option” but a “requirement” as His Phrase here is:

 

“… These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE.  …”

 

and from “WHAT YOU HAVE” (meaning NOT money collected in the Name of God only and Neither are the Priests/Pastors exempt from it as the ‘Pharisees were such’).

 

In short,  ‘believing in Christ’ and ‘continuing living like that’ wouldn’t HAVE SAVED the PHARISEES either as “True believing in Christ would do these ALMSGIVING or CHARITY DOCTRINE as CHRIST WARNS here as the LOVE OF GOD and JUSTICE He Refers to” instead of “Prosperity” (Self-Indulgence) as these Pharisees did.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

Charity Doctrine Mystery by Christ – How important is the CHARITY DOCTRINE?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161532378072784

 

Verse:

 

“… For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” (Galatians 5:14, NKJV)

 

So “ALL THE LAW [Torah’s 613 Commandments] IS FULFILLED” = “… LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” = CHARITY DOCTRINE

 

How do I know that the Context of “… LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” refers to the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle? Because CHRIST HIMSELF gave this definition as follows:

 

“… 25And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?” 26He said to him, “What is WRITTEN IN THE LAW? What is YOUR READING OF IT?” 27So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ ” 28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.” 29But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR?” 30Then JESUS ANSWERED and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had COMPASSION. 34So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and TOOK CARE OF HIM. 35On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘TAKE CARE OF HIM; and WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, when I come again, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:25 – 37, NKJV)

 

Conclusion

 

1) If “Loving your neighbor” referring to this “CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE” Fulfills ALL LAW, then “not” doing it could be equal to “BREAKING ALL LAW (TORAH), right?”

 

2) No other religious act be it “Praying, Fasting, Church Attendance, Worship or anything else” has been WRITTEN IN HOLY SCRIPTURE AS EQUAL TO FULFILLING ALL LAW (All the “Torah’s 613 Commandments“) EXCEPT THIS “… LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR …” which CHRIST HIMSELF Describes as the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE in His Famous “Parable of the Good Samaritan” in Verses above clearly “as it is Written“. So, how can a True Church of Christ “not” Teach it as Doctrine?

 

3) Regardless, Preaching these Verses is “not” my personal opinion or human wisdom but exactly what’s WRITTEN IN ACTUAL BIBLE VERSES and BEST IS, BY LORD JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF and HE COMMANDS US TO DO IT, in His Own Most Blessed Words above as “… [Love] YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ ” 28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.”  …” (Luke 10:27 – 28, NKJV) and “… 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:36 – 37, NKJV) for which there IS NO CONDEMNATION TO PREACH CHRIST’S COMMAND HERE AS IT IS WRITTEN AS DOCTRINE.

 

4)  Even in “Judgment Day” Verses, Christ only Asks about what one did to the “… Hungry, Thirsty, Naked, Homeless etc. …” which are Çharity Doctrine Acts without which any idealogy/conversions doesn’t work or don’t matter in Matthew 25:31 – 46 clearly. Christ also clearly defines “His Sheep” to possess these Çharity Doctrine Act Qualities clearly.

 

Here’s a little deeper mystery for you to ponder: Some of the “Righteous (sheep)” did NOT EVEN KNOW the Lord much and that’s why they ask back as follows (but yet THE LORD KNOWS ALL THESE CHARITY DOCTRINE SHEEP as opposed to the “… Converting MANY based on Prophesying, Casting out Demons, Miracles in His Name ones whom HE DENIES as I NEVER KNEW YOU due to LAWLESSNESS …” in Matthew 7:20 – 24), Surprised Sheep Verses:

 

“… 37“Then the RIGHTEOUS WILL ANSWER Him, saying, ‘Lord, When Did We See You Hungry And Feed YOU, or THIRSTY AND GIVE YOU DRINK? 38WHEN DID WE SEE YOU A STRANGER and TAKE YOU IN, OR NAKED AND CLOTHE YOU? 39Or WHEN DID WE SEE YOU SICK, OR in PRISON, AND COME TO YOU?’ 40And THE KING WILL ANSWER and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I SAY TO YOU, INASMUCH AS YOU DID IT TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YOU DID IT TO ME.’ …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:37 – 40, NKJV)

 

5) Even your sins are covered from Judgment if you love like this (again, CHRIST HIMSELF TAUGHT THIS DIRECTLY as follows)

 

“… And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “LOVE will COVER a MULTITUDE OF SINS.” …”(1 Peter 4:8, NKJV)

 

“… Therefore I say to you, HER SINS, which are MANY, ARE FORGIVEN, for SHE LOVED MUCH. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 7:47, NKJV)

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

The Greatest Commandments by Christ Himself

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161533713867784

 

“… 29JESUS answered him, “The [k]first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [l]This is the first commandment. 31And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is NO OTHER COMMANDMENT GREATER THAN THESE.” …” (Mark 12:29 – 31, NKJV)

 

Without a “Doctrine of Love in Action (not words only)”, such “Faith” contradicts these Verses:

 

“…  6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. 7YOU RAN WELL. Who hindered you from OBEYING THE TRUTH? 8This persuasion DOES NOT come FROM HIM who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. … THROUGH LOVE SERVE ONE ANOTHER. 14For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.” … AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW ...” (Galatians 5:6 – 9, 13 – 14, 22, highlighted, NKJV)

 

Note: the “as yourself” part is the hardest.

 

1) How much we “Love others” (2nd Greatest Commandment) is the proof of the first, “Love God” (1st Greatest Commandment), Verses:

 

“… 20If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, [d]how can he love God whom he has not seen? 21And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also. …” (1 John 4:20 – 21, NKJV)

 

2) The “Love your neighbor” here is the CHARITY DOCTRINE as CHRIST HIMSELF gave this context as discussed in earlier post in link below:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161532378072784

3) Other Details (I have discussed in various pages of previous books for edification), examples:

 

1. i) Jewish Perspective

[From Pages 302 to 303 of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook ]

 

“… Accordingly, King Nebuchadnezzar is told by Daniel: “Break off thy sins by righteousness [ẓedaḳah—almsgiving] and thine iniquities by showing mercy to the poor” (Dan. iv. 27), and both Daniel and the king become models of charity (Midr. Zuṭṭa, Cant., ed. Buber, p. 21). (See Altar.) The entire story of Tobit is a lesson on almsgiving and its redeeming powers (Tobit, i. 3, 16; ii. 14; iv. 7-11; xii. 8, 9). “Alms deliver from death and purge away all sin” (compare Prov. xi. 4); whence the custom of giving Alms at funerals (see Ẓedaḳah Box). “Every one who occupies himself with charity shall behold the face of God,” as it is written (Ps. xvii. 15, Heb.): “I behold Thy face by almsgiving” (ẓedeḳ; see Midr. Teh. l.c., B. B. 10a). Almsgiving, prayer, and fasting constituted the three cardinal disciplines which the synagogue transmitted to both the Christian church and the Mohammedan mosque (see Tobit, xii. 8; and compare Matt. vi. 1-18; and the Koran, where almsgiving, called zakat (Aramaic zakuta), or sadaḳa (ẓedaḳah), is always mentioned in connection with prayer (sura ii. 40, 104; ix. 54). The Mandæans, too, made almsgiving (zidka) and fasting the means of obtaining eternal life and bliss (see Brand, “Mandäische Schriften,” pp. 28 et seq.). According to Rab Assi of the third century, “almsgiving is equal in value to all other commandments” (B. B. 9a; compare Luke, xv.): “It saves man from sudden, unnatural death and the soul from doom” (R. Johanan, B. B. 10a, after Prov. x. 2): “Almsgiving is more than any sacrifice, though personal charity is superior even to almsgiving” (R. Eleazar, Suk. 49b). R. Eleazar states also that it should precede prayer, taking Ps. xvii. 15 also to mean, “After almsgiving I shall behold Thy face,” B.B. 10a. Likewise each fast-day was virtually an occasion for almsgiving, as the day’s offerings were handed over to the poor (Ber. 6b). Compare Midr. Zuṭṭa, Cant., ed. Buber, p. 21: “The Israelites fast and give their food and that of their children to the poor”—quoted by Origen, “Homilies to Leviticus,” x. (see also Aristides, xv. 9). …” Jewish Encyclopedia

 

Source: https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/1295-alms

 

 

 

 

 

1. ii) Apocrypha Books Perspective from among which were called “good” by Blessed Martin Luther (the First Protestant) and was found in the “First 1611 KJV King James Bible“

 

“…  6 Then he said to them SECRETLY: Bless ye the God of heaven, give glory to him in the sight of all that live, because he hath shewn his mercy to you. 7 For it is good to hide the secret of a king: but honourable to reveal and confess the works of God. 8 PRAYER IS GOOD WITH FASTING AND ALMS MORE THAN to lay up treasures of gold: 9 For ALMS DELIVERETH from DEATH, and the same is that which PURGETH AWAY SINS, and maketh to FIND MERCY AND LIFE EVERLASTING. … 15 For I am the angel RAPHAEL, one of the seven who stand before the Lord. …” (Bible Scripture.Net Translation, Tobit 12:6 – 9, 15)

 

Source: https://biblescripture.net/Tobias.html

 

“… 7 GIVE GENEROUSLY to anyone who faithfully obeys God. If you are stingy in giving to the poor, God will be stingy in giving to you. 8 Give according to what you have. THE MORE YOU HAVE, THE MORE YOU SHOULD GIVE. Even if you have only a little, be sure to give something. 9 This is as good as money saved. You will have your reward in a time of trouble. 10-11 TAKING CARE OF THE POOR is the kind of offering that PLEASES GOD IN HEAVEN. DO THIS, and YOU WILL BE KEPT SAFE FROM THE DARK WORLD OF THE DEAD. …” (Good News Translation, Tobit 4:7 – 11)

 

Source:  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Tobit+4&version=GNT

 

“Water will quench a blazing fire, and by almsdeeds sins are purged away.” (Ecclesiasticus 3:30)

 

Note: “Sirach” = “Ecclesiasticus “.

 

“My child, do not mock the life of the poor; do not keep needy eyes waiting. Do not grieve the hungry, nor anger the needy. Do not aggravate a heart already angry, nor delay giving to the needy. A beggar’s request do not reject; do not turn your face away from the poor. From the needy do not turn your eyes.” (Ecclesiasticus 4:1-5)

 

“Alms atone for sins. He who does a kindness is remembered afterward; when he falls, he finds a support.” (Ecclesiasticus 3:29b-30)

 

“Help the poor because of the commandment: and send him not away empty- handed because of his poverty. Lose thy money for thy brother and thy friend, and hide it not under a stone to be lost. Place thy treasures in the commandments of the Most High, and it shall bring thee more profit than gold. Shut up alms in the heart of the poor, and it shall obtain help for thee against all evil. Better than the shield of the mighty, and better than the spear; it shall fight for thee against thy enemy.” Ecclesiasticus 29: 12-17

 

“Stretch out your hand to the poor, that your expiation and your blessing may be perfected.” (Ecclesiasticus 7:36)

 

“A man’s goodness God cherishes like a signet ring, a man’s virtue, like the apple of his eye.” (Ecclesiasticus 17:18.)

 

iii) First Jewish Christianity Perspective (Apostolic Fathers)

[From Pages 26, 34 and 59 from the #EternalHellAnnihilationUniversalismBook ]

 

“… 2Clem 16:1 Therefore, brethren, since we have found no small opportunity for repentance, seeing that we have time, let us turn again unto God that called us, while we have still One that receiveth us.2Clem 16:2 For if we bid farewell to these enjoyments and conquer our soul in refusing to fulfill its evil lusts, we shall be partakers of the mercy of Jesus. 2Clem 16:3 But ye know that the DAY OF JUDGMENT cometh even now as a BURNING OVEN, and the powers of the heavens shall melt, and all the earth as lead melting on the fire, and then shall appear the secret and open works of men. 2Clem 16:4 ALMSGIVING therefore is a good thing, EVEN AS REPENTANCE FROM SIN> FASTING IS BETTER THAN PRAYER, but ALMSGIVING BETTER THAN BOTH. And LOVE COVERETH A MULTITUDE OF SINS [1 Peter 4:8], but PRAYER out of a good conscience DELIVERETH FROM DEATH. BLESSED IS EVERY MAN that is FOUND FULL OF THESE. For ALMSGIVING LIFTETH OFF THE BURDEN OF SIN. 2Clem 17:1 Let us therefore repent with our whole heart, lest any of us perish by the way. For if we have received commands, that we should make this our business, to tear men away from idols and to instruct them, how much more is it wrong that a soul which knoweth God already should perish! …” (2 Clement, Attributed to Blessed St. Clement of Rome, a direct Disciple of the Blessed Apostle St. Peter, c.35 AD – c. 99 AD)

 

Source:  http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/2clement-lightfoot.html

 

“… Be not a stretcher forth of the hands to receive and a drawer of them back to give. If you have anything, THROUGH YOUR HANDS YOU SHALL GIVE RANSOM FOR YOUR SINS. Do not hesitate to give, nor complain when you give; for you shall know who is the good repayer of the hire. Do not turn away from him who is in want; rather, share all things with your brother, and do not say that they are your own. …” – The Didache  or the Teaching of the Twelve Apostles to the Nations (Chapter 4)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html

 

“… STAND FAST, therefore, in these things, and FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF THE LORD, being firm and UNCHANGEABLE IN THE FAITH, loving the brotherhood, and being attached to one another, joined together in the truth, exhibiting the meekness of the Lord in your intercourse with one another, and despising no one. When YOU CAN DO GOOD, DEFER IT NOT, because “ALMS DELIVERS FROM DEATH.” [Tobit 12:9]” Be all of you subject one to another? having your conduct blameless among the Gentiles,” that YE MAY BOTH RECEIVE PRAISE FOR YOUR GOOD WORKS, and the Lord may not be blasphemed through you. But WOE TO HIM by whom the name of the Lord is blasphemed! Teach, therefore, sobriety to all, and manifest it also in your own conduct. …” – Blessed St. Polycarp, Bishop of Smryna, an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of the Blessed St. John the Apostle who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 69 AD – c. 155 AD, CHAPTER X.–EXHORTATION TO THE PRACTICE OF VIRTUE, THE EPISTLE OF POLYCARP TO THE PHILIPPIANS)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/polycarp-roberts.html

 

1. iv) First Christianity Vision of the “Shepherd of Hermas”

[From Pages 30 and 31 from the #IgnoredChristianDoctrineBook ]

 

“… 9[17]:1 “Hear me, my children. I brought you up in much simplicity and guilelessness and reverence, through the mercy of the Lord, Who instilled righteousness into you, that YE MIGHT BE JUSTIFIED AND SANCTIFIED from all wickedness and all crookedness. But ye will not to cease from your wickedness. 9[17]:2 Now then hear me and be at peace among yourselves, and have regard one to another, and assist one another, and DO NOT PARTAKE OF THE CREATURES OF GOD ALONE IN ABUNDANCE, BUT SHARE THEM ALSO WITH THOSE THAT ARE IN WANT.  9[17]:3 For some men through their much eating bring weakness on the flesh, and injure their flesh: whereas the flesh of those who have nought to eat is injured by their not having sufficient nourishment, and their body is ruined.  9[17]:4 THIS EXCLUSIVENESS THEREFORE IS HURTFUL TO YOU THAT HAVE AND DO NOT SHARE WITH THEM THAT AR IN WANT.  9[17]:5 LOOK YE TO THE JUDGMENT THAT COMETH. YE THEN THAT HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH, SEEK OUT THEM THAT ARE HUNGRY, WHILE THE TOWER IS STILL UNFINISHED; FOR AFTER THE TOWER IS FINISHED, YE WILL DESIRE TO DO GOOD, AND WILL FIND NO PLACE FOR IT.  9[17]:6 Look ye therefore, ye that exult in YOUR WEALTH, LEST THEY THAT ARE IN WANT SHALL MOAN, and their moaning shall go up unto the Lord, and YE WITH YOUR [ABUNDANCE OF GOOD THINGS BE SHUT OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR OF THE TOWER. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Vision 3)

 

Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd-lightfoot.html

 

or

 

“… 4[114]:2 Charge all men who are able to do right, that THEY CEASE NOT TO PRACTICE GOOD WORKS; for it is useful for them. I say moreover that every man ought to be RESCUED FROM MISFORTUNE; for he that hath need, and SUFFERETH MISFORTUNE IN HIS DAILY LIFE, IS IN GREAT TORMENT AND WANT. 4[114]:3 WHOSOEVER THEREFORE RESCUETH  FROM PENURY A LIFE OF THIS KIND, winneth great joy for himself. For he who is harassed by misfortune of this sort is afflicted and tortured with equal torment as one who is in chains. For many men on account of calamities of this kind, because they can bear them no longer, lay violent hands on themselves. HE THEN WHO KNOWS THE CALAMITY OF A MAN OF THIS KIND AND RESCUETH HIM NOT, COMMITTETH GREAT SIN, and BECOMETH GUILTY OF THE MAN’s BLOOD.  4[114]:4 DO THEREFORE GOOD WORKS, WHOEVER OF YOU HAVE RECEIVED (BENEFITS) FROM THE LORD, LEST, WHILE YE DELAY TO DO THEM THE BUILDING OF THE TOWER BE COMPLETED. For it is on your account that the work of the building has been interrupted. Unless then ye hasten to do right, the tower will be completed, and YE SHUT OUT.” 4[114]:5 When then he had finished speaking with me, he rose from the couch and departed, TAKING WITH HIM THE SHEPHERD AND THE VIRGINS. He said however unto me, that he would send the shepherd and the virgins back again to my house. . .” – Shepherd of Hermas (Parable 10, Last Lines of this entire Writing)

 

Source:

 

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd-lightfoot.html

 

 

 

 

1. v) Other Church Fathers examples

[From Pages 633, 108 and 475 of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook ]

 

“… But I wonder that some are so obstinate as to think that repentance is not to be granted to the lapsed, or to suppose that pardon is to be denied to the penitent, when it is written, “REMEMBER WHENCE YOU ARE FALLEN, REPENT, and DO THE FIRST WORKS,” (Rev. 2:5) which certainly is said to him who evidently has fallen, and whom the Lord exhorts to rise up again by his works, because it is written, “ALMS DO DELIVER FROM DEATH,” and not, assuredly, from that death which once the blood of Christ extinguished, and from which the saving grace of baptism and of our Redeemer has delivered us, but from that which subsequently creeps in through sins. …” – Blessed St. Cyprian, Bishop of Carthage, a pre-eminent Latin writer of Western Christianity until Jerome and Augustine, Martyr for Christ (c. 200 AD – c. 258 AD,  [Cyprian of Carthage, Ep. 51.22 ANF v.5])

 

Source (Section Commentary on this Tobit/Tobias Verse [4:10 Because that alms do deliver from death, and suffer not to come into darkness. 11 For alms is a good gift unto all that give it in the sight of the most High.]):

 

https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home/tobit/early-church-fathers-bible-commentary-on-tobit

 

 

“… Let no one therefore, dearly beloved, flatter himself on any merits of a good life, if works of charity be wanting in him, and let him not trust in the purity of his body, if he be not cleansed by the purification of almsgiving. For “almsgiving wipes out sin,” kills death, and extinguishes the punishment of perpetual fire. (Tobit) …” – Blessed St. Leo the Great,  also known as Pope Leo I, Bishop of Rome, Listed in the Ancient Lutheran’s Book of Concord as an accepted Church Father by Protestants & Pope Benedict XVI said that Leo’s papacy “was undoubtedly one of the most important in the Church’s history, Doctor of the Church,  a Roman aristocrat, and was the first pope to have been called “the Great”. (c. 400 – 461 AD)

 

Source:

 

https://practicalapologetics.blogspot.com/2013/07/early-church-fathers-on-almsgiving.html

 

“… Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower, ( Matthew 13:18 ) says He; and He speaks what we before mentioned, of carelessness and attention, of cowardice and fortitude, of wealth and VOLUNTARY POVERTY; pointing out the hurt from the one, and the benefit from the other. Then of virtue also He brings forward different forms. For being full of love to man, He marked out not one only way, nor did He say, unless one bring forth an hundred, he is an outcast; but he that brings forth sixty is saved also, and not he only, but also the producer of thirty. And this He said, making out salvation to be easy. 3. And thou then, are you unable to practise VIRGINITY? Be chaste in marriage. ARE YOU UNABLE TO STRIP YOURSELF OF YOUR POSSESSIONS? GIVE OF YOUR SUBSTANCE. CAN YOU not bear that burden? SHARE YOUR GOODS WITH CHRIST. Are you UNWILLING TO YIELD HIM UP ALL? GIVE HIM BUT THE HALF, BUT THE THIRD PART. He is your brother, and joint-heir, make Him joint-heir with you here too. WHATSOEVER YOU GIVE HIM, YOU WILL GIVE TO YOURSELF…” – Blessed St. John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church, one of the Three Holy Hierarchs (c. 349 AD – c. 407 AD, ‘St. John Chrysostom on Matthew‎’, Point 2)

 

Source:

https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home/matthew-commentary/st-john-chrysostom-on-matthew/chapter-1/chapter-2/chapter-3/chapter-4/chapter-5/chapter-6/chapter-7/chapter-8/chapter-9/chapter-10/chapter-11/chapter-12/chapter-13

 

Conclusion

Even Martin Luther approved it and John Wesley Warned of Practicing it as Essential Doctrine (so are all of them wrong or unsaved for PREACHING the CHARITY DOCTRINE?) to quote [from pages 16 and 15 from the #ParableoftheWiseandFoolishVirginsBook ]:

 

“… Therefore, let each one see to it that he has these two together: the OIL, which is TRUE FAITH and trust in Christ; and the LAMPS, the VESSEL, which is the OUTWARD SERVICE TOWARD YOUR NEIGHBOR. The WHOLE CHRISTIAN LIFE CONSISTS in THESE TWO THINGS things: BELIEVE GOD. HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR. The WHOLE GOSPEL TEACHES this. PARENTS should TELL IT TO THEIR CHILDREN at HOME and EVERYWHERE. Children, too, should CONSTANTLY FOSTER THIS WORD AMONG THEMSELVES. I should really say something about the sleep of the virgins and about the setting out of the Bridegroom for the wedding. But the hour is late. Another time. May God be gracious to us! Amen. …”- The First Champion of the Protestant Faith, Blessed Martin Luther’s Sermon which was translated in 2013 by the Rev. Paul A. Rydecki, On Faith and Good Works, Preached in Erfurt at St. Michaeliskirche on the Day of the 11,000 Virgins (October 21st), 1522)

Source: http://www.godwithuslc.org/luther-sermon-for-trinity-27/

 

“… How then is it possible that Methodism, that is, the religion of the heart, though it flourishes now as a green bay tree, should continue in this state? For the Methodists in every place grow diligent and frugal; consequently they increase in goods. Hence, they proportionably increase in pride, in the desire of the flesh, the desire of the eyes, and the pride of life. So, although the FORM OF RELIGION REMAINS, THE SPIRIT IS SWIFTLY VANISHING AWAY (2 Timothy 3:5). Is there no way to prevent this? this continual declension of pure in effect, to grow rich! What way then, I ask again, can we take that OUR MONEY may NOT SINK US to the NETHERMOST HELL? There is one way, and there is no other under heaven. If those who gain all they can, and save all they can, will likewise GIVE ALL THEY CAN, then the more they gain, the more they will GROW IN GRACE , and the more treasure they will lay up in heaven,”. …”  – Blessed John Wesley, Founder of Methodism

 

Source:

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevin-deyoung/the-pastor-and-the-community-mark-dever/

 

Other Related Bible Verses from the 66 Books, examples:

 

“… Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and BREAK OFF THY SINS BY RIGHTEOUSNESS, and THINE INIQUITIES BY SHEWING MERCY TO THE POOR; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity. …” – Blessed and Holy Prophet Daniel (Daniel 4:27, KJV based on the Masoretic Text)

 

Source: https://biblehub.com/daniel/4-27.htm

 

Compare:

 

” … 27Therefore, O king, let my counsel please thee, and ATONE FOR THY SINS BY ALMS, and THINE INIQUITIES BY COMPASSION ON THE POOR: it may be God will be long-suffering to thy trespasses.” … – Blessed and Holy Prophet Daniel (Daniel 4:27, Brenton Septuagint Translation, based on the Septuagint or LXX)

 

Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/daniel/4.htm

 

“… ‘Why have WE FASTED,’ they say, ‘and YOU HAVE NOT SEEN? Why have WE AFFLICTED OUR SOULS, and YOU TAKE NO NOTICE?’ …” (Isaiah 58:3, NKJV)

 

Part of the Answer (God’s Reply):

 

“… 7Is it not to SHARE YOUR BREAD with the HUNGRY,

And that you bring to your house THE POOR who are cast out;

When you see THE NAKED, that you cover him,

And not hide yourself from YOUR OWN FLESH?

8Then YOUR LIGHT shall break forth like the MORNING,

YOUR HEALING shall spring forth speedily,

And your righteousness shall go before you;

The glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard.

9Then you shall call, and the Lord will answer;

You shall cry, and He will say, ‘Here I am.’ …” (Isaiah 58:7 – 9, NKJV)

 

“… 9As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad,He has GIVEN TO THE POOR; His RIGHTEOUSNESS endures FOREVER.” 10Now [g]may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, [h]supply and multiply the seed you have sown and INCREASE THE FRUITS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, 11while you are enriched in everything for ALL LIBERALITY, which causes THANKSGIVING THROUGH US TO GOD. 12For the ADMINISTRATION OF THIS SERVICE not only SUPPLIES THE NEEDS OF THE SAINTS, but also is ABOUNDING THROUGH MANY THANKSGIVINGS TO GOD, 13while, through the PROOF OF THIS MINISTRY, THEY GLORIFY GOD for the OBEDIENCE OF YOUR CONFESSION to the GOSPEL OF CHRIST, and for YOUR LIBERAL SHARING WITH THEM and ALL MEN, …” (2 Corinthians 9:9 – 13, NKJV)

 

“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)

 

“… [ 39Then the Lord said to him, ] “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)

 

“… I have shown you in every way, by laboring like this, that you must support the weak. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, ‘It is MORE BLESSED to GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE.’ ” …” (Acts 20:35, NKJV)

 

“… 10In this the CHILDREN OF GOD and THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL are manifest: Whoever DOES NOT PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS is not of God, NOR IS HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE HIS BROTHER. 11For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? BECAUSE HIS WORKS WERE EVIL AND HIS BROTHER’S RIGHTEOUS. … 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3: 10 – 12, 16 – 18, NKJV)

 

“… 8If you really FULFILL the ROYAL LAW according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; … For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. 14What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [f]your works, and I will show you my faith by [g]my works. …” (James 2:8, 13 – 18, NKJV)

 

“… 32“But IF YOU LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:32, NKJV)

 

“… WHAT DO YOU DO MORE THAN OTHERS? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:47, NKJV)

 

“… 33And IF YOU DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO DO GOOD TO YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU?  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:33, NKJV)

 

Note: If we are “not” interested in the ” Heavenly Reward” for doing this “TANGIBLE GIVING of this WORLD’S GOODS toward ENEMIES even” which CHRIST HIMSELF calls as “GREAT” (Matthew 5:46 or Luke 6:35), then we cannot complain that we didn’t get it one day if we look down on God’s Direct Words, right?

 

Yes, this GIVING which CHRIST TAUGHT DIRECTLY also INVOLVES GIVING MONEY as well to THE ENEMIES (in the Context of ‘those unthankful and EVIL too’) as per the phrase “… and LEND …” in Verses below by CHRIST HIMSELF:

 

“… 34And if YOU LEND to those from whom you HOPE TO RECEIVE BACK, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. 35But LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, DO GOOD, AND LEND, [h]HOPING FOR NOTHING IN RETURN; and YOUR REWARD WILL BE GREAT, and YOU WILL BE SONS OF THE MOST HIGH. For He is KIND to the UNTHANKFUL AND EVIL. 36Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:27 – 36, NKJV)

 

Note: If God Himself calls this “Reward” for Doing so as “Great”, isn’t it most valuable? God doesn’t simply call anything as “Great” and this “Reward” is called likewise and conditional to “Loving our enemies”. May He Help us to attain to some of it.

 

No one can keep (obey) these HARDEST Commands unless the Holy Spirit Enables them:

 

“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. WHAT DO I STILL LACK?” 21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS. 23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, NKJV)

In light of Christ’s Quotes we understand that the “Charity Doctrine” removes the “Judgment of Sins”  but it cannot give new life nor give Resurrection.

 

Only the Blood of Christ Can Remove Sin itself and bring us to the Resurrection Life beginning within us on earth itself.  So only Christ’s Atonement and Work Gives us Life.

 

The Almsgiving stops the ‘Judgment of Sins’, nothing more as that’s the Context meant in Tobit or elsewhere in Verses quoted here (even in Christ’s Parable of the Rich Man and Beggar Lazarus too which Speaks of this absence of Charity Doctrine leads straight to Hell in Luke 16:19 – 31) by which even Lazarus can be ‘spared of that Judgment’ too.

 

 

 

 

The “Truth” they were hindering was the “Charity Doctrine” aspect of “Faith Working through Love” teaching some type of ‘ritualistic return to the Law such as circumcision doctrine’, Verses:

 

“…  6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. 7YOU RAN WELL. Who hindered you from OBEYING THE TRUTH? 8This persuasion DOES NOT come FROM HIM who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. … THROUGH LOVE SERVE ONE ANOTHER. 14For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.” … AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW …” (Galatians 5:6 – 9, 13 – 14, 22, highlighted, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

The “Leaven” which was SPOILING CHRISTIANITY was ANY RITUALISTIC TORAH (LAW) OBSERVANCES which did NOT COME under the DEFINITION of LOVE such as the “Charity Doctrine” aspect of “Faith Working through Love” where this teaching of some type of ‘ritualistic return to the Law such as circumcision doctrine’ is WRONG, Verses:

 

“…  6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. 7YOU RAN WELL. Who hindered you from OBEYING THE TRUTH? 8This persuasion DOES NOT come FROM HIM who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. … THROUGH LOVE SERVE ONE ANOTHER. 14For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.” … AGAINST SUCH THERE IS NO LAW …” (Galatians 5:6 – 9, 13 – 14, 22, highlighted, NKJV)

 

So, any Doctrine which TEACHES AGAINST the CHARITY DOCTRINE is clearly a LEAVEN which SPOILS CHRISTIANITY as this FIRST CONTEXT of these Verses itself imply when it was FIRST WRITTEN.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Narrow and Difficult Road to Life in the First Resurrection Mystery

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161536371532784

 

“… 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. …” (Revelation 20:5 – 6, NKJV)

 

Example Question

 

Whoever believes in Him shall be saved as simple as that! No such a thing first and end time christianity

 

Reply

 

It’s not as simple as that.

 

0) Firstly, the “Way to Life” (First Resurrection, Revelation 20:4 – 6) is DIFFICULT and NOT EASY as CHRIST HIMSELF DECLARED:

 

“… Because narrow is the gate and DIFFICULT is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. …” (Matthew 7:14, NKJV)

 

1) Matthew 7:20 – 24’s End Time Christianity did “… Prophesying, Casting Out Demons, Miracles … conversions of MANY …” but Christ Says, “… I NEVER KNEW YOU …” due to LAWLESSNESS. Matthew 5:19 – 20 Christ Says one’s righteousness will need to exceed the Pharisees in obedience to “His Commands” (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

2) The “Five Foolish Virgins” also were “Virgins” and believed in Him but were “Rejected” for “NOT HAVING ENOUGH OIL” which signifies the “Works of Faith” primarily referring to the “Works of Mercy” as First Christianity taught. Examples:

 

1. a) In the Original Koine Greek Bible, both these Words “Oil” and “Mercy” are linked by the ‘same root word’, example quote:

 

“… The word mercy in English is the translation of the Greek word eleos. This word has the same ultimate root as the old Greek word for oil, or more precisely, olive oil; a substance that, was used extensively as a soothing agent for bruises and minor wounds. The oil was poured into the wound and gently massaged in, thus soothing, comforting, and making whole the injured part.  The Hebrew word which is also translated as eleos and mercy is hesed, and means steadfast love. …”

 

Source: https://orthodoxtimes.com/the-meaning-of-kyrie-eleison/

 

1. b) elaion: olive oil

 

https://biblehub.com/greek/1637.htm

 

Note: You can see that Matthew 25:3, 4, 8 clearly uses this word in list in link above just as Luke 10:34 does too.

 

Let’s reference it next as [Greek: elaion-“Oil” 1637] next for simplicity.

 

1. c) eleos: mercy, pity, compassion

 

https://biblehub.com/greek/1656.htm

 

Let’s reference it next as [Greek: eleos-“Mercy” 1656] next for simplicity.

 

 

Note: This same word [Greek: eleos-“Mercy” 1656] is found in a crucial Verse below as God Himself has “Commanded” us to “find out its Meaning diligently”:

 

“… But if you had known what this means, ‘I DESIRE MERCY [Greek: eleos-“Mercy” 1656] AND NOT SACRIFICE,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless. …” (Matthew 12:7, NKJV)

 

1. d) Usage in the Wise vs Foolish Virgins Parable in Matthew 25:1 – 13

 

“… 1“Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3Those who were foolish took their lamps and took NO OIL [Greek: elaion-“Oil” 1637]  WITH THEM, …  8And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of YOUR OIL [Greek: elaion-“Oil” 1637] , for our lamps are going out.’ 9But the wise answered, saying, ‘No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.’ 10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut. 11“Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’ 12But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I DO NOT KNOW YOU.’ …” (Matthew 25:1 – 3, 8 – 12, NKJV)

 

1. e) Usage in the Answer for “What to do for Eternal Life?” by Christ in Luke 10:25 – 37

 

“…  25And behold, a certain [h]lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, WHAT SHALL I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?” … 33But a certain SAMARITAN, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion. 34So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on OIL [Greek: elaion-“Oil” 1637]  and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him.  … 36So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?”  37And he said, “He who showed MERCY [Greek: eleos-“Mercy” 1656]  on him.” Then JESUS said to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.” …” (Luke 10:25, 33 – 34, 36 – 37, NKJV)

 

Note: Please notice carefully that the “Good Samaritan” used “his own money and possessions (donkey)” to do these “Acts of Mercy” and “not” via ‘Money Collected from others or in the Name of God only’ meaning the value is based on ‘what we are given’ (by Relative Measure’. If this is “not” important for ETERNAL LIFE, Christ Wouldn’t have wasted His Time describing “each details” here like this (which both the theologically more accurate “Priest/Levite” missed where a “Samaritan” who did it describes someone with imperfect knowledge of God by Christ’s Own Definition in John 4:22 – 23 too):

 

“… 31Now by chance a certain PRIEST came down that road. And when he saw him, he PASSED BY ON THE OTHER SIDE. 32Likewise a LEVITE, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and PASSED BY ON THE OTHER SIDE. 33But a CERTAIN SAMARITAN, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had COMPASSION. 34So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, POURING [Olive]OIL [Greek: elaion-“Oil” 1637]  and WINE; and HE SET HIM ON HIS OWN ANIMAL, brought him to an inn, and TOOK CARE OF HIM. 35On the next day, [j]when he departed, HE TOOK OUT TWO DENARII, GAVE THEM TO THE INNKEEPER, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, when I come again, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ 36So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?” …” (Luke 10:31 – 36, NKJV)

 

1. f) The “possible” link between these two passages

 

Both these Greek Words [Greek: elaion-“Oil” 1637] and [Greek: eleos-“Mercy” 1656] occur clearly in this Parable of the Good Samaritan (in Luke 10:25 – 37). Also both these root words are connected linguistically meaning that “the oil” in the “Parable of the 5 Wise and 5 Foolish Virgins” can also mean that “this oil” primarily refers to the “Acts of Mercy” which points to the ‘Charity Doctrine’ as per the Church Fathers’ quotes which “not” only reflects the First Christianity position on it, but even Martin Luther, the First Protestant too, except that he defines the “Oil and Lamp” to mean “Faith and Helping Others type of Good Work (Charity Doctrine)” in ‘reverse definition’ (but ‘overall meaning’ is the ‘same’), to quote:

 

“… Therefore, let each one see to it that he has these two together: the OIL, which is TRUE FAITH and trust in Christ; and the LAMPS, the VESSEL, which is the OUTWARD SERVICE TOWARD YOUR NEIGHBOR. The WHOLE CHRISTIAN LIFE CONSISTS in THESE TWO THINGS things: BELIEVE GOD. HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR. The WHOLE GOSPEL TEACHES this. PARENTS should TELL IT TO THEIR CHILDREN at HOME and EVERYWHERE. Children, too, should CONSTANTLY FOSTER THIS WORD AMONG THEMSELVES. I should really say something about the sleep of the virgins and about the setting out of the Bridegroom for the wedding. But the hour is late. Another time. May God be gracious to us! Amen. …”- The First Champion of the Protestant Faith, Blessed Martin Luther’s Sermon which was translated in 2013 by the Rev. Paul A. Rydecki, On Faith and Good Works, Preached in Erfurt at St. Michaeliskirche on the Day of the 11,000 Virgins (October 21st), 1522

 

Source: http://www.godwithuslc.org/luther-sermon-for-trinity-27/

 

Note: Regardless if Martin Luther (above) quoted the “oil” and “lamp” as “faith” and “good works” respectively, it doesn’t change the meaning in essence that he is emphasizing clearly that the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as signified in his phrase above as ‘OUTWARD SERVICE TOWARD YOUR NEIGHBOR’ is part of the “5 Wise Virgins” and he exhorts to “Preach it everywhere”, in his words “… BELIEVE GOD. HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR. The WHOLE GOSPEL TEACHES this. PARENTS should TELL IT TO THEIR CHILDREN at HOME and EVERYWHERE. Children, too, should CONSTANTLY FOSTER THIS WORD AMONG THEMSELVES. …”. So we preach likewise and cannot be condemned for it either as we are following Martin Luther in this.

 

If Martin Luther (the First Protestant) did “not” go to Hell by Preaching this Context as per “First Christianity”, we won’t either by preaching and doing likewise. Also, the fact that Martin Luther agrees to Church Father’s Quotes* (please see at the end for examples) on this proves that this Doctrinal part is most likely correct.

 

1. g) Comment: God may “not” know anyone who is “Lawless” or doesn’t do “His Sayings” (Matthew 7:24) as He Declared likewise “I never knew you!” (in Matthew 7:20 – 23) toward a ‘fake Christianity which converted “many” via ‘Prophesying, Casting out Demons, and Miracles’. In comparison, please notice that Christ knew the ‘Surprised Sheep’ on Judgment Day (Matthew 25:31 – 36) even if that sheep may “not” have known Him fully or they may be theologically imperfect as they asked in Reply, “When did we see you Lord… etc.” but they all did the CHARITY DOCTRINE in response to ‘… when I was Hungry, Thirsty, Homeless, Naked, …’ (which is the “common ground” where Christ Declares that ‘He Knows them as His Sheep’ in those Verses clearly).

 

3) The Clearest Proof comes in the Book of Revelation where for example the “Laodicean Church” Believed in the Christ and had “Prosperity” with NO OTHER SIN MENTIONED BUT WAS REJECTED. Yes “PROSPERITY” SIN alone was enough to be considered LUKEWARM and be Rejected from the “FIRST RESURRECTION”, Verses:

 

1. i) I repeat, the ONLY SIN of the Laodicean Church was “Prosperity” (nothing else is Written as Christ points to other Church to have ‘sexually immoral or Doctrine of Nicolaitans or Balak etc.’)

 

“… 15“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because YOU ARE LUKEWARM, and neither [k]cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I AM RICH, HAVE BECOME WEALTHY, and HAVE NEED OF NOTHING’—and do not know that YOU ARE WRETCHED, MISERABLE, POOR, BLIND, AND NAKED— 18I counsel you to BUY FROM ME GOLD REFINED IN THE FIRE, that YOU MAY BE RICH; and WHITE GARMENTS that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:15 – 18, NKJV)

 

1. ii) Why is this Important? Only those with “WHITE GARMENTS” have their names “Written” in the “BOOK of LIFE” to escape the “Lake of Fire“, Verses:

 

“… He who OVERCOMES shall be clothed in WHITE GARMENTS, and I will not blot out his name from the BOOK OF LIFE; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. …” (Revelation 3:5, NKJV)

 

iii) White Garments is NOT FAITH but GOOD WORKS as described in this ‘same Book of Revelation’:

 

“White Garment” = “Good Works in Action” (“Overcomers”, not holiness only) = “Righteous Acts of the Saints” (human Good Works letting God Work it through us, His Will), Verse:

 

“… 7Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8And to her it was granted to be ARRAYED IN FINE LINEN, CLEAN AND BRIGHT, for the FINE LINEN is the RIGHTEOUS ACTS OF THE SAINTS. 9Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he said to me, “These are the true sayings of God.” . …” (Revelation 19:7 – 9, NKJV)

 

Please don’t be deceived by funny modern Church Teachings that don’t point to all these as “First Christianity” did. Yes, “First Christianity” vs “End Time Christianity” exists because, the Bible uses the phrase “last days” (example 2 Timothy 3:1) distinguishing this Timeline from “First Christianity” clearly where such apostasy and errors in crucial doctrine like this would happen.

 

 

 

 

 

4) Church Father’s Quotes that the “lesser Oil” in the “Foolish Virgins” denotes “lack of Good Works of the Charity Doctrine (LOVE TYPE)”:

 

1. St. John Chrysostom

 

“… Hom. lxxviii, In the foregoing parable the Lord set forth the punishment of the man who beat, and was drunk, and wasted [p. 844] his Lord’s goods; in this He declares his punishment who profits not, and does not prepare for himself abundantly the things of which he has need; FOR THE FOOLISGH VIRGINS HAD OIL, BUT NOT ENOUGH. … And He employs the character virgins in this parable to shew, that though virginity be a great thing, yet if it be not accompanied by works of mercy, it shall be cast out with the adulterers. … Or, The “OIL” DENOTES CHARITY, ALMS, and EVERY AID RENDERED TO THE NEEDY; the lamps denote the gifts of virginity; and He calls them “foolish,” because after having gone through the greater toil, they lost all for the sake of a less; for it is greater labour to overcome the desires of the flesh than of money. …  You see then how great merchants the poor are to us; but THE POOR ARE NOT THERE, but here, and THEREFORE WE MUST STORE UP OIL HERE, that we may have it to use there when occasion shall require. … That, “WHILE THEY WENT TO BUY,” shews that even, IF WE SHOULD BECOME MERCIFUL AFTER DEATH, IT WILL AVAIL US NOTHING to escape punishment, as it was no profit to the rich man, that he became merciful and careful about those who belonged to him. …” – Blessed St. John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church, one of the Three Holy Hierarchs (c. 349 AD – c. 407 AD, Commentary on Matthew 25:1 – 13’s Parable of the Five Wise/Foolish Virgins in Catena Aurea)

 

Source:

 

https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home/matthew-commentary/catena-aurea-on-matthew/chapter-1/chapter-2/chapter-3/chapter-4/chapter-5/chapter-6/chapter-7/chapter-8/chapter-9/chapter-10/chapter-11/chapter-12/chapter-13/chapter-14/chapter-15/chapter-16/chapter-17/chapter-18/chapter-19/chapter-20/chapter-21/chapter-22/chapter-23/chapter-24/chapter-25

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. St. Hilary of Poitiers

 

“… The “OIL” IS THE FRUIT OF GOOD WORKS, the “vessels” are the human bodies in whose inward parts the treasure of a good conscience is to be laid up. …  At the trumpet signal they go forth to meet the bridegroom alone, for then shall the two be one, that is, the flesh and God, when the lowliness of the flesh shall be transformed into spiritual glory. … Or, the trimming their lamps is the return of their souls into their bodies, and their light is the consciousness of good works that shines forth, which is contained in the vessels of the body. … THEY THAT SELL ARE THE POOR, who, NEEDING THE ALMS OF THE FAITHFUL, made them that recompense which they desire, SELLING in return for the relief afforded to their wants, a consciousness of good works. This is the abundant fuel of an UNDYING LIGHT WHICH MAY BE BOUGHT AND STORED UP for the FRUITS OF MERCY. … “The marriage” is the putting on of immortality, and the joining together corruption and incorruption in a new union. … Yet though the season of repentance is now past, the foolish virgins come and beg that entrance may be granted to them. …” …” –  Blessed St. Hilary of Poictiers, the “Athanasius of the West”, Doctor of the Church, The Champion of Trinity in the West (c. 310 AD – c. 368 AD, Commentary on Matthew 25:1 – 13’s Parable of the Five Wise/Foolish Virgins in Catena Aurea)

 

Source:

 

https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home/matthew-commentary/catena-aurea-on-matthew/chapter-1/chapter-2/chapter-3/chapter-4/chapter-5/chapter-6/chapter-7/chapter-8/chapter-9/chapter-10/chapter-11/chapter-12/chapter-13/chapter-14/chapter-15/chapter-16/chapter-17/chapter-18/chapter-19/chapter-20/chapter-21/chapter-22/chapter-23/chapter-24/chapter-25

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3. St. Augustine of Hippo

 

“… Lib. 83 Quaest, Q59: Or, “The lamps” which they carry in their hands are their works, of which it was said above, “Let your works shine before men.” [Matt 5:16] … Or, by the five virgins, is denoted a five-fold continence from the allurements of the flesh; for our appetite must be held from gratification of the eyes, ears, smell, taste, and touch. And as this continence may be done before God, to please Him in inward joy of the conscience, or before men only to gain applause of men, five are called wise, and five foolish. Both are virgins, because both these men exercise continence, though from different motives. … Or, The “oil” denotes joy, according to that, “God hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness.” [Ps 45:7] He then whose joy springs not from this that he is inwardly pleasing to God, has no oil with him; for they have no gladness in their continent lives, [p. 846] save in the praises of men. “But the wise TOOK OIL with their lamps,” THAT IS, the GLADNESS OF GOOD WORKS, “in their vessels,” that is, they stored it in their heart and conscience, as the Apostle speaks, “Let every man prove himself, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself, and not in another.” [Gal 6:4] …  … ” – Blessed St. Augustine of Hippo, Doctor of the Church, who influenced virtually all of subsequent Western philosophy and Catholic theology, as well as a significant amount of Protestant theology (c. 354 AD – c. 430 AD,  Commentary on Matthew 25:1 – 13’s Parable of the Five Wise/Foolish Virgins in Catena Aurea)

 

Source:

 

https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home/matthew-commentary/catena-aurea-on-matthew/chapter-1/chapter-2/chapter-3/chapter-4/chapter-5/chapter-6/chapter-7/chapter-8/chapter-9/chapter-10/chapter-11/chapter-12/chapter-13/chapter-14/chapter-15/chapter-16/chapter-17/chapter-18/chapter-19/chapter-20/chapter-21/chapter-22/chapter-23/chapter-24/chapter-25

 

An Edifying Comment: Surely these Church Fathers quoted here must be saved especially St. Augustine of Hippo (who is the Protestant’s favourite saint too) and hence preaching likewise as them in this cannot cause any Christian to be condemned either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

5) Saved by Fire case for some Christians possibility

 

“… 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.  …” (1 Corinthians 3:14 – 15, NKJV)

 

Some may be “Saved by Fire” only incurring the “Loss of Reward” while “not” all get the “Gold” or “Silver” level Reward either meaning that “not” all inheritance of the Kingdom of Heaven is same for Christians either and so, please don’t be deceived by Teachings which claim ‘you get every treasure in heaven by doing nothing’ or by doing less’. This “Saved by Fire” case can include some of those whom are included in John 3:16’s “whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life” and so it’s “not” as honourable as the Salvation of other Christians who adorn their Faith with Works accordingly to HONOUR GOD in ACTION.

 

So the John 3:16 you quoted can include such ones too, right?

 

If not, then this Verse Speaks of a possible “non-Elect Salvation” and Let God Decide one day which is the case.

 

Either way, there is “loss” despite “being saved” if we end up “saved by fire” where this “Fire” refers to the “Lake of Fire” Context simply because it refers to the “FIRE which is to be REVEALED on THAT DAY (when He Returns or perhaps Judgment Day 1000 years later, no one knows which for sure)”:

 

“… 13each ONE’S WORK will become clear; FOR THE DAY WILL DECLARE IT, BECAUSE IT WILL BE REVEALED BY FIRE; and THE FIRE WILL TEST EACH ONE’S WORK, of what sort it is. 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.” (1 Corinthians 3:13 – 15, NKJV)

 

Comment: Please notice carefully that the REWARD here of GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES and SAVED BY FIRE’s LOSS OF REWARD are all based NOT ON FAITH LEVEL but WORK LEVEL (as the Word “faith” doesn’t even exist in this discussion in 1 Corinthians 3:5 – 15; yes the word “faith” doesn’t exist in 1 Corinthians 3 itself but only “WORKS”). So the “Work Quality” is very important to build on “CHRIST” where the Christians are called “God’s Field” here:

 

“… 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? 6I PLANTED, APOLLOS WATERED, but GOD GAVE THE INCREASE. 7So then NEITHER HE WHO PLANTS IS ANYTHING, NOR HE WHO WATERS, BUT GOD WHO GIVES THE INCREASE. 8Now HE WHO PLANTS AND HE WHO WATERS ARE ONE, and EACH ONE WILL RECEIVE HIS OWN REWARD ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; YOU ARE GOD’s FIELD, YOU ARE GOD’s BUILDING. 10According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But LET EACH ONE TAKE HEED HOW HE BUILDS ON IT.  …” (1 Corinthians 3:5 – 10, NKJV)

 

The “Building on Christians” is by “Relative Measure” and “Charity Doctrine” as we build on other Christians “benefitting them in some way” (which opens up even the possibility that some non-Christians who Practiced the Charity Doctrine toward Christians could be saved on the Second Resurrection as Judgment Day Verses in Matthew 25:31 – 46 also point to what one did when these least brethren of Christ (Christians) were ‘… hungry, naked, homeless, thirsty, in prison, sick …’ etc. So regardless, this interpretation of “Work” referring to “Works of Mercy of Giving and Sharing toward Christians” freely is meant as the “Building on God’s Field” which is the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” by “Relative Measure” (Luke 12:46 – 48, Luke 21:1 – 4). If it’s “not” a free service but expensive courses sold by one Christian to another (for example), the value may drop from Gold to Silver to even becoming wood/hay which will be burnt by that Fire (Let God Decide).

 

In Full:

 

“… 5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? 6I PLANTED, APOLLOS WATERED, but GOD GAVE THE INCREASE. 7So then NEITHER HE WHO PLANTS IS ANYTHING, NOR HE WHO WATERS, BUT GOD WHO GIVES THE INCREASE. 8Now HE WHO PLANTS AND HE WHO WATERS ARE ONE, and EACH ONE WILL RECEIVE HIS OWN REWARD ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; YOU ARE GOD’s FIELD, YOU ARE GOD’s BUILDING. 10According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But LET EACH ONE TAKE HEED HOW HE BUILDS ON IT.  11For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if anyone builds on this foundation with GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES, wood, hay, straw, 13each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, HE WILL RECEIVE A REWARD. 15If anyone’s WORK IS BURNED, HE WILL SUFFER LOSS; but HE HIMSELF WILL BE SAVED, YET SO AS THROUGH FIRE.” …” (1 Corinthians 3:5 – 15, NKJV)

 

 

Conclusion

 

This Context being right is affirmed by these Verses too:

 

“… 6But this I say: HE WHO SOWS SPARINGLY WILL ALSO REAP SPARINGLY,  and HE WHO SOWS BOUNTIFULLY WILL ALSO REAP BOUNTIFULLY. 7So let EACH ONE GIVE as he PURPOSES in HIS HEART, not grudgingly or of [f]necessity; for GOD LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER. 8And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things, may have an abundance for EVERY GOOD WORK. 9As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad, He has GIVEN TO THE POOR; His righteousness endures FOREVER.” …” (2 Corinthians 9:6 – 9, NKJV)

 

Yes, when 2 Corinthians 9:6 was Written, the TOPIC is NOT ‘how many souls they converted’ but rather the CHARITY DOCTRINE of “HOW MUCH EACH ONE GAVE to MINISTER to EACH other’s NEEDS beginning with the CHURCH to CHURCH sharing of money to even outsiders or ALL MEN who are POOR ONLY with what they have”.

 

Comments:

 

1) The Verse is “not” talking about number of conversions made by a Church or individual but only “GIVING literal earthly goods + money” for “needs” to the “poor”.

 

2) God doesn’t reward ‘no of converts’ because that’s by ‘relative measure’ as a big number will usually be for ‘easier levels of faith’ or lesser levels such as the thirty-fold as opposed to Christ Commanding the “Hundredfold Perfection” (in Matthew 19:21 – 24, Matthew 19:27 – 30) as Christ Himself only had “Twelve Apostles” at the Highest Levels.

 

3) If the number of converts is meant as ‘sow and reap sparingly’, then how come the 144000 purely “Jewish Virgin Men” are the “Firstfruit” of salvation itself as mentioned in Revelation 7:1 – 10, Revelation 14:1 – 5 as in comparison of history, how many ‘preachers which big church/big conversions’ (in history) are purely “… unmarried Jewish Virgin Men …”? so the greatness in the Kingdom is “not” based on ‘number of converts’ but the ‘Level of Obedience to His New Testament Commands’ (as Matthew 5:19 – 20 Reveals).

 

 

God is Fair to each Christian in this way as it’s based on ‘Relative Measure’ only His Principle as elaborated in the Poor Widow’s giving example in Luke 21:1 – 4. Two people, one with 1000 converts while another with 2 converts can be equal if they work as hard for the Kingdom and keep His Commands Equally well in ‘Relative Measure’ (Let God Judge those measurements for He Alone is without Bias and will be Fair to all).

 

4) In short, nothing “Written” in 2 Corinthians 9 refers to ‘sow or reap sparingly’ as referring to Number of Converts. The only thing in Topic here in this entire chapter is the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ of sharing/giving with each other’s needs (not luxury/wants/prosperity giving to the rich). Example: Please notice the word “poor” in a Verse in this same chapter below:

 

5) If you keep giving to the rich (be it pastors or churches or individuals) for their ‘prosperity beyond needs and luxuries’, your giving is wasted and may “not” merit any reward in heaven (as that’s the punishment for those who disobey when they see their money wasted on such people as you chose to give like that), Verse:

 

“… And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty. …” (Proverbs 22:16, NKJV)

 

Note: Some of those who do the above never become poor on earth (e.g. the prosperity of the wicked as Psalm 73:3 – 12 Speaks) and so will be “poor in heaven” (lower level of rewards if not too bad) or “hell” as the case of the ‘Rich Man’ with “no” Charity Doctrine to the “Poor” as Christ Warned in Luke 16:19 – 31.

 

6) Charity Doctrine increases the “fruits of righteousness”

 

“… 10Now [g]may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, [h]supply and multiply the seed you have sown and INCREASE THE FRUITS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, 11while you are enriched in everything for ALL LIBERALITY, which causes THANKSGIVING THROUGH US TO GOD. …” (2 Corinthians 9:10 – 11, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

7) Charity Doctrine is only counted for “needs” (please notice this word carefully in Verse below, all from this ‘same Chapter, Same Topic, Same Context) and ‘not wants/luxury or equivalent’:

 

“… 12For the ADMINISTRATION OF THIS SERVICE not only SUPPLIES THE NEEDS OF THE SAINTS, but also is ABOUNDING THROUGH MANY THANKSGIVINGS TO GOD, …” (2 Corinthians 9:12, NKJV)

 

8.) Charity Doctrine is the PROOF and OBEDIENCE to both the CONFESSION and GOSPEL of CHRIST as ‘no other righteous act is mentioned in this chapter be it praying, fasting, church attendance, etc.’ but in Verse below this Will of the Father is specifically Revealed as “…for YOUR LIBERAL SHARING WITH THEM and ALL MEN, …” – can you see it?

 

(this means other religious acts be it ‘praying, fasting, church attendance, etc.’ are only accepted as much as this Charity Doctrine is done in OBEDIENCE first as discussed in Previous posts with other Verses too such as Isaiah 1:10 – 20, Amos 5:10 – 12, 21 – 24, Isaiah 58:3, 7 – 9, James 1:27, Luke 11:39 – 41):

 

“… 13while, through the PROOF OF THIS MINISTRY, THEY GLORIFY GOD for the OBEDIENCE OF YOUR CONFESSION to the GOSPEL OF CHRIST, and for YOUR LIBERAL SHARING WITH THEM and ALL MEN, …” (2 Corinthians 9:13, NKJV)

 

Please notice the last line carefully that this “liberal sharing” is not just toward “them” (referring to ‘other churches’) but also “ALL MEN” (meaning including non-believers too). Can you see it please as ‘it is Written’?

 

9) Here is  an example related First Christianity Quote for edification (which is “not” necessary as these Verses themselves as sufficient) but it helps us to understand that early Christians were aware of it too:

 

“… Therefore when He said, Make to yourselves friends, he added, of the mammon of unrighteousness [Luke 16:9], to show, that their friendship will not alone protect us unless good works accompany us, unless we righteously cast away all riches unrighteously amassed. The most skillful then of all arts is that of almsgiving. For it builds not for us houses of mud, but lays up in store an everlasting life. Now in each of the arts one needs the support of another; but when we ought to show mercy, we need nothing else but the will alone. …” – Blessed St. John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church, one of the Three Holy Hierarchs (c. 349 AD – c. 407 AD)

 

Source: https://sites.google.com/site/aquinasstudybible/home/luke-commentary/catena-aurea-on-luke/chapter-1/chapter-2/chapter-3/chapter-5/chapter-5/chapter-6/chapter-7/chapter-8/chapter-9/chapter-10/chapter-11/chapter-12/chapter-13/chapter-14/chapter-15/chapter-16

 

10) Christ Taught this Same Truth that one’s Faithfulness to Him is “not” measured by ‘how many hours of fasting, praying, church attendance, worship etc.’ (if someone says otherwise, which Verse did Christ Speak of the word “Faithfulness” (Context) and ‘any of those religious acts?’ It does “not” exist) but ONLY SPOKE of the WORD FAITHFULNESS with this CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE, Verses:

 

In short, CHRIST DECLARES (“not” me) that the FAITHFULNESS of a CHRISTIAN is “not” measured by ‘… how many hours he prays, fasts, attends church, worships etc. …’ (if someone says so, please ask them FOR A BIBLE VERSE where CHRIST SAYS it DIRECTLY and you will find “none”) in comparison to as much as one LIVES and DOES this CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as Christ Clearly Asks in Verse via a simpler English Translation as follows

 

“… . 11And IF YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY ABOUT WORLDLY WEALTH, who will trust you with the TRUE  RICHES OF HEAVEN? …” (Luke 16:11, NLT) where the JUDGMENT for this is ONLY BASED on “… 9Here’s the lesson: USE YOUR WORLDLY RESOURCES to BENEFIT OTHERS AND MAKE FRIENDS. Then, when your possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an ETERNAL HOME. 10“IF YOU ARE FAITHFUL IN LITTLE THINGS, YOU WILL BE FAITHFUL IN LARGE ONES. …” (Luke 16:9 – 10, NLT) by CHRIST HIMSELF.

 

Comment: Please notice the words ‘… 10“IF YOU ARE FAITHFUL IN LITTLE THINGS, YOU WILL BE FAITHFUL IN LARGE ONES. …’ which refers to Heavenly Reward given based on how one used the earthly Resources to BENEFIT OTHERS FOR FREE as earlier Verses quotes as “… 9Here’s the lesson: USE YOUR WORLDLY RESOURCES to BENEFIT OTHERS AND MAKE FRIENDS. Then, when your possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an ETERNAL HOME.  …” in the Context of “ETERNAL”(Aionion) Home. The Word “Aeonian” translated as “eternal” here is the same word used to Describe “everlasting (Aeonian) punishment vs everlasting (Aeonian) life” in Matthew 25:46 all by Christ Himself proving its “Eternal” consequences of missing this Doctrine accordingly.

 

Please don’t be deceived and please be very careful of “expensive Bible courses to Bible books to hoarding God’s Money as blessings or equivalent as these Verses Contradict all that”. Indeed, please follow ‘what is Written’ as ‘sweet words’ can be ‘against #WhatHeSaid and ‘just makes them feel good but it’s NOT a BIBLE VERSE and WORST STILL IT SPEAKS AGAINST THESE DIRECT WORDS of CHRIST “as it is Written“.

 

Last but not least, please remember that the “Denied” Christians all were claiming ‘spiritual gifts type of focus such as casting out demons or prophesying or miracles in His Name’ but CHRIST DENIES them plainly giving the reason of “LAWLESSNESS” (i.e. “not” obeying “HIS COMMANDS”) and so no one is denied for OBEYING HIS WORDS which HE LIKENS to BUILDING A HOUSE ON THE ROCK in these same set of Verses (hence ‘same context’ in Matthew 7:20 – 24) and so there’s “no” self righteousness or dangerous theology in “obeying His Words”. These Verses:

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

Please notice carefully that the HOUSE BUILT on the ROCK which is compared against all these spiritual gifts based conversion of an end time Christianity (“On THAT DAY“) of MANY is different in only one point namely, the “saved Christian who built his house on the ROCK (of Christ)” refers to “not just preaching or glorifying Christ in Words” which is Hypocrisy UNLESS it is FOLLOWED by PREACHING and DOING HIS NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS as PROOF OF FAITH IN ACTUAL WORKS (the other type of conversions which are NOT based on HIS NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS are called LAWLESS and REJECTED here and where is the Threshold? God Alone Decides as He has Mercy on Whomever He Wills) but this is what “God’s Will” is, Verse:

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of THESE COMMANDMENTS, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; but whoever DOES AND TEACHES THEM, he shall be called GREAT in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 20For I say to you, that unless YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS EXCEEDS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by NO MEANS ENTER THE KINGDOM of HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19 – 21, NKJV)

 

 

 

Only a self righteous person would have no desire to do God’s Will Revealed in these Verses as the Pharisees believed in YHWH but ignored all these Commandments as Christ was Firing them in ‘that Context’ likewise where these latter were only good in collecting “tithes” (because it benefitted them financially directly and ‘were holy from major sins’ Luke 18:9 – 12) but IGNORED GOD’S WILL for JUSTICE and LOVE of GOD which is the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE, Verses:

 

 

To quote:

 

“… 25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you CLEANSE THE OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and dish, but INSIDE THEY ARE FULL OF EXTORTION and [l]SELF-INDULGENCE. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also. 27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like WHITEWASHED TOMBS which indeed appear BEAUTIFUL OUTWARDLY, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also OUTWARDLY APPEAR RIGHTEOUS TO MEN, but INSIDE YOU ARE FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND LAWLESSNESS. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 23:25 – 28, NKJV)

 

“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For YOU TITHE mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE. 43Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the [m]best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces. 44Woe to you, [n]scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like graves which are not seen, and the men who walk over them are not aware of them.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 45, NKJV)

 

Comment: That should reveal to us that MONEY SINS are the “Worst there is” and it is also clear in the “lives of the Pharisees likewise” (whom Christ attacked vehemently) where CHRIST DOES NOT point once that the Pharisees committed “adultery, murder, witchcraft, idolatry,” BUT HE POINTED their “PROSPERITY SINS” (Christ’s Phrase “Self Indulgence” in Matthew 23:25) with “Tithe collecting” (for self survival) but NOT CARING for the ALMSGIVING (CHARITY DOCTRINE) and especially “not” with their money as even Luke 11:39 – 42 has clearly Described this Context in Christ’s Most Blessed Words as it is Written calling them “whitewashed tombs” (because ‘outwardly they were religious in praying, fasting and Church Attendance with NO adultery, NO Murder, NO Witchcraft, NO idolatry etc’).

 

The Phrase “…. These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE.  …” is inclusive of the ONLY RELIGIOUS ACT CHRIST MENTIONS HERE (Context as ‘it is Written) referring to “… 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” which is the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE which is a MUST for any TRUE CHRISTIAN (according to ‘Relative Measure‘, implied) as CHRIST DIDN’T SAY it is an “option” but a “requirement” as His Phrase here is:

 

“… These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE.  …”

 

and from “WHAT YOU HAVE” (meaning NOT money collected in the Name of God only and Neither are the Priests/Pastors exempt from it as the ‘Pharisees were such’).

 

In short,  ‘believing in Christ’ and ‘continuing living like that’ wouldn’t HAVE SAVED the PHARISEES either as “True believing in Christ would do these ALMSGIVING or CHARITY DOCTRINE as CHRIST WARNS here as the LOVE OF GOD and JUSTICE He Refers to” instead of “Prosperity” (Self-Indulgence) as these Pharisees did.

 

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mystery of True Christians – Conversions based on OBEYING what CHRIST HAS COMMANDED – Why does it matter?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161537776212784

 

‘… To Obey Christ’s Word is to Believe in Him causing Eternal Life …’

 

Verses (in image at the end too):

 

“… 47WHOEVER BELONGS TO GOD HEARS WHAT GOD SAYS. The REASON YOU DO NOT HEAR is that YOU DO NOT BELONG TO GOD.” 48The Jews answered him, “Aren’t we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?” 49“I am not possessed by a demon,” said Jesus, “but I HONOR MY FATHER and you dishonor me. 50I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51Very truly I tell you, WHOEVER OBEYS MY WORD WILL NEVER SEE DEATH.” …” (John 8:47 – 51, NIV)

 

Comments:

 

1) The Reason for “not” being able to “hear or obey” Christ’s Commands is

 

“… 47WHOEVER BELONGS TO GOD HEARS WHAT GOD SAYS. The REASON YOU DO NOT HEAR is that YOU DO NOT BELONG TO GOD.” …”

 

 

2) Here’s the “Secret to Immortality” by CHRIST HIMSELF:

 

“… 51Very truly I tell you, WHOEVER OBEYS MY WORD WILL NEVER SEE DEATH.” …”

 

 

 

 

3) How to “GLORIFY GOD?”

 

Christ Clearly Teaches by EXAMPLE that HE GLORIFIES THE FATHER by OBEYING HIS WORD (Commands), in these same Topic/Context in Consecutive Verses:

 

“… 54Jesus replied, “If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. 55Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I DO KNOW HIM AND OBEY HIS WORD. 56Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad.” 57“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!” 58“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”  …” (John 8:54 – 58, NIV)

 

4) Here is John 8:51 in a few translations which all Speak the Same Meaning of OBEYING HIS WORD = OBEYING HIS COMMANDS as God’s Will for IMMORTALITY and to HONOUR HIM

 

New Living Translation

I tell you the truth, anyone who obeys my teaching will never die!”

 

English Standard Version

Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death.”

 

Berean Study Bible

Truly, truly, I tell you, if anyone keeps My word, he will never see death.”

 

Berean Literal Bible

Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word, he shall never see death, to the age.”

 

King James Bible

Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

 

 

New King James Version

Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death.”

 

New American Standard Bible

Truly, truly I say to you, if anyone follows My word, he will never see death.”

 

Source: https://biblehub.com/john/8-51.htm

 

5) Example of “His Commands” are plenty throughout the New Testament as I have discussed in previous posts (example in link below) especially THE CHARITY DOCTRINE COMMANDS TOO BEING THE MOST IN NUMBER BY CHRIST HIMSELF:

 

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161536371532784/

 

Apart from “Christ’s Commands in the Gospels”, we can also OBEY THE NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS given through APOSTLE PAUL because these are “not” called as ‘Cultural Commands’ in the Bible Verse below (as some err) but clearly as COMMANDS WHICH CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE LORD JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF and so it also falls into the Category of John 8:51’s part of ‘if we follow/keep/Obey Christ’s Commands/Word in this too’, it contributes to the FRUIT OF IMMORTALITY which Grows in us by this SOWING OF HIS WORD upon the GOOD GROUND OF OUR HEART IF IT RECEIVES IT, Verses:

 

 

“… If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I WRITE TO YOU ARE THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD. …” (1 Corinthians 14:37, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

 

 

6) Which “Word” is Christ Referring to in John 8:51 or John 8:55? Is it ESCHATOLOGY or SOME DEEPER HIDDEN WISDOM REGARDING SOME MYSTERY OR JUST HIS PLAIN COMMANDS OR THOSE THAT RELATE TO WORKS?

 

Let the Verses Answer:

 

“… JESUS SAID TO THEM, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41YOU DO THE DEEDS OF YOUR FATHER.” Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father—God.” 42JESUS SAID TO THEM, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43Why do you not understand My speech? Because YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO LISTEN TO MY WORD. 44You are OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE DESIRES OF YOUR FATHER YOU WANT TO DO. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. …” (John 8:39 – 44, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1. Christ is “not” Talking about some DEEP ESCHASTHALOGY or DEEP WISDOM when He Spoke John 8:51, 55.

 

2. Christ was talking about “works” (“deeds”/”action”) and “not” faith only

 

“… Abraham did not do this. 41YOU DO THE DEEDS OF YOUR FATHER.” …”

 

3. Christ Compares that the “Word” HE DESIRES (His COMMANDS) are rejected and the “opposite” to what He Desires which is the “DESIRE OF THE DEVIL” is what they chose to do

 

“… 43Why do you not understand My speech? Because YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO LISTEN TO MY WORD. 44You are OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE DESIRES OF YOUR FATHER YOU WANT TO DO. …”

 

Conclusion

 

TO BELIEVE (or have FAITH) is TO OBEY HIS COMMANDS. Being Human, we can fail but God’s Will remains same for each of us namely, THE MORE WE BELIEVE IN HIM, THE MORE COMMANDS WE OBEY, Implied clearly in Verses below:

 

“… 45But BECAUSE I TELL THE TRUTH, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME. 46Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47He WHO IS OF GOD HEARS GOD’S WORDS; therefore YOU DO NOT HEAR, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OF GOD.” 48Then the Jews answered and said to Him, “Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?” 49JESUS ANSWERED, “I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me. 50And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges. 51Most assuredly, I say to you, IF ANYONE KEEPS MY WORD HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.” …” (John 8:45 – 51, NKJV)

 

Yes, only a FAITH WHICH BELIEVES TO OBEY HIS COMMANDS RESULTS IN THE FRUIT OF IMMORTALITY, to highlight these parts only from above:

 

“… 45But BECAUSE I TELL THE TRUTH, YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME. … 47He WHO IS OF GOD HEARS GOD’S WORDS; therefore YOU DO NOT HEAR, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT OF GOD.” … IF ANYONE KEEPS MY WORD HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.” …”

 

Truth doesn’t get any clearer than this as the BELIEVING CHRIST REFERS TO IS OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS = “Keep His Word”.

 

Here’s another Verse from Christ Himself Confirming this Truth regarding what does it mean to “KEEP HIS WORD”?

 

It does NOT refer to “Eschatology” or “knowing Bible Mysteries” or anything like that but ONLY OBEYING AND KEEPING HIS DIRECT NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS and TRADITIONS as CHRIST USES THIS SAME PHRASE in His Own Definition (with “no” other Definition He GIVES in Scripture making it the only definition or the 100% Approved Definition) as follows:

 

“… 21He WHO HAS MY COMMANDMENTS and KEEPS THEM, it is HE WHO LOVES ME. And he who loves Me will be LOVED BY MY FATHER, and I will LOVE HIM AND [F]MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.” 22Judas (not Iscariot) said to Him, “Lord, how is it that You will manifest Yourself to us, and not to the world?” 23JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID TO HIM, “If ANYONE LOVES ME, HE WILL KEEP MY WORD; and My FATHER WILL LOVE HIM, and WE WILL COME TO HIM AND MAKE OUR HOME WITH HIM. 24He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent Me. …” (John 14:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1. The “Keep My Word” in John 8:51 or John 8:55 refers to HIS COMMANDMENTS and NOT ESCHASTHALOGY OR BIBLE MYSTERIES

 

“… 21He WHO HAS MY COMMANDMENTS and KEEPS THEM, it is HE WHO LOVES ME … 23JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID TO HIM, “If ANYONE LOVES ME, HE WILL KEEP MY WORD …” (John 14:21, 23)

 

1. Eternal Life Begins within when this KEEPING OF COMMANDMENTS HAPPENS

 

“…  21He WHO HAS MY COMMANDMENTS and KEEPS THEM, it is HE WHO LOVES ME. And he who loves Me will be LOVED BY MY FATHER, and I will LOVE HIM AND [F]MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.” … 23JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID TO HIM, “If ANYONE LOVES ME, HE WILL KEEP MY WORD; and My FATHER WILL LOVE HIM, and WE WILL COME TO HIM AND MAKE OUR HOME WITH HIM. …” (John 8:21, 23, NKJV)

 

Compare:

 

“… 3And THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE, THAT THEY may KNOW YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4I have glorified You on the earth. I HAVE FINISHED THE WORK which You have given Me to do. 5And now, O Father, glorify Me together [b]with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. 6“I have [c]manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, AND THEY HAVE KEPT YOUR WORD. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 17:3 – 6, NKJV)

 

Please notice carefully the “condition” for “who is a True Christian” here carefully namely “… AND THEY HAVE KEPT YOUR WORD. …”  (John 17:6) Which refers to “those who obey only” in light of all these Verses.

 

iii. In short, the Mystery of “BELIEVING HIM” is OBEYING/KEEPING any of CHRIST’S NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS and TRADITIONS as our earlier posts has detailed out and GREATER THE OBEDIENCE, GREATER THE FRUIT OF IMMORTALITY WITHIN as these Verses imply:

 

“… 51Most assuredly, I say to you, IF ANYONE KEEPS MY WORD HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.” …” (John 8:51, NKJV) = “… 21He WHO HAS MY COMMANDMENTS and KEEPS THEM, it is HE WHO LOVES ME … 23JESUS ANSWERED AND SAID TO HIM, “If ANYONE LOVES ME, HE WILL KEEP MY WORD …” (John 14:21, 23, NKJV)

 

Let Scripture interpret Scripture and all is clear as “it is Written”. Please don’t be deceived.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mystery of the Fruit – Fruit is the Amount of His Commandments which we Obey

 

Source Post: https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161540252312784

 

Explanation

 

Believing + Lawlessness gets denied (Matthew 7:20 – 24) and “Holiness is a work of the Law too”. So true faith (Cause) produces both the fruit of Holiness + Good Works + Obedience as the Manifestation via “His Commands”. In short the “FRUIT” the CHRIST SPEAKS of is clearly DEFINED as HIS COMMANDMENTS in John 15:8 – 10. So anything “not” based on “His Commandment” may “not” be a “Good Fruit”.

 

Verses:

 

“… 5“I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, BEARS MUCH FRUIT; for without Me you can do nothing. 6If anyone DOES NOT ABIDE IN ME, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and THEY GATHER THEM AND THROW THEM INTO THE FIRE, AND THEY ARE BURNED.  8By this My Father is glorified, that YOU BEAR MUCH FRUIT; so YOU WILL BE MY DISCIPLES. 9“As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; ABIDE IN MY LOVE. 10If YOU KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, YOU WILL ABIDE IN MY LOVE, just as I have KEPT MY FATHER’S COMMANDMENTS and ABIDE IN HIS LOVE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 15:8 – 10, NKJV)

 

The Greatest Fruit of All is the FRUIT of LOVING ONE ANOTHER COMMAND, Verses:

 

“… 11“These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full. 12THIS IS MY COMMANDMENT, that YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU. 13GREATER LOVE HAS NO ONE THAN THIS, THAN TO LAY DOWN ONE’S LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS. 14YOU ARE MY FRIENDS IF YOU DO WHATEVER I COMMAND YOU. 15No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that YOU SHOULD GO AND BEAR FRUIT, and that YOUR FRUIT SHOULD REMAIN, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17These THINGS I COMMAND YOU, THAT YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 15:11 – 17, NKJV)

Comments:

 

1. Christ’s Greatest Command is for Christians to bear the FRUIT OF LOVING ONE ANOTHER and the FRUITS VIA OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS

 

 

“… 12THIS IS MY COMMANDMENT, that YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU. 13GREATER LOVE HAS NO ONE THAN THIS, THAN TO LAY DOWN ONE’S LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS. 14YOU ARE MY FRIENDS IF YOU DO WHATEVER I COMMAND YOU …”

 

 

This Greatest Love is Manifested in the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as the other letter of John elaborates this emulation of CHRIST’S GREATEST LOVE IN CHRISTIANS WHO SHARE/GIVE THEIR WORLDLY GOODS:

 

 

“… 12This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13GREATER LOVE HAS NO ONE THAN THIS, THAN TO LAY DOWN ONE’S LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS.  …” (John 15:12 – 13, NKJV) = “… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)

 

 

2. The FRUIT which God Wants us to Bear is the FRUIT OF LOVE ONE ANOTHER (in Action, implied, which is the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle):

 

 

“… YOU SHOULD GO AND BEAR FRUIT, and that YOUR FRUIT SHOULD REMAIN, …” = “…  17These THINGS I COMMAND YOU, THAT YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER. …”

 

 

 

Conclusion

 

FRUIT = “His Commands”

 

BEAR MUCH FRUIT = “Obedience to MUCH (More) OF HIS COMMANDS”

 

GREATEST FRUIT = “His Command to Love one another” (in Action, implied) as He Calls it as a Friend laying down His Life (John  15:13) which the other letter of John details out as the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” of “Giving/Sharing this World’s Goods” (1 John 3:16 – 18).

 

This is what is clearly Written in these Verses by CHRIST’S OWN DEFINITION. Without these “Fruits“, one is cast into the Fire. That’s why in Verses below, Christ Himself clearly Teaches that the “Bad Fruit” refers to “LAWLESSNESS” which clearly refers to “NOT OBEYING HIS COMMANDMENTS” (when these Verses are understood together) despite them ‘claiming spiritual gifts and converting MANY in an end time Christianity on that Day via Casting out Demons, Prophesying and doing Miracles in His Name’ whom HE DENIES but in comparison approves the Saved Christian who builds HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK OF CHRIST if and only if he HEARS CHRIST’S SAYINGS (i.e. “any” New Testament Commands/New Testament Traditions) and DOES THEM to bear these GOOD FRUITS = OBEDIENCE TO HIS VARIOUS COMMANDS, as Verses below Agree and Describe likewise as it is Written:

 

“… 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT IS CUT DOWN and THROWN INTO THE FIRE. 20Therefore BY THEIR FRUITS you will know them. 21“NOT EVERYONE who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me IN THAT DAY, ‘Lord, Lord, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN YOUR NAME, CAST OUT DEMONS IN YOUR NAME, and DONE MANY WONDERS IN YOUR NAME?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore whoever HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:18 – 24, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

Comments:

 

1. Good Fruit = “… 24“Therefore whoever HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM …”

 

1. Bad Fruit = “… ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ …” = ‘… [NOT HEARING] THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and [NOT DOING] THEM …’ = “… 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN YOUR NAME, CAST OUT DEMONS IN YOUR NAME, and DONE MANY WONDERS IN YOUR NAME?’ …”

 

iii. End time Lawless Christianity = “… 22MANY will say to Me IN THAT DAY …”

 

1. Context here about “Entering Heaven“

 

“… 21“NOT EVERYONE who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.  …”

 

The Context above in Matthew 7:18 – 24 is about ENTERING HEAVEN (Matthew 7:21) and God’s Will for ITS FRUIT meant is clearly “not” the abolished ritualistic parts of the Torah (as some Christians err) but ONLY WHATEVER COMMANDS CHRIST RE-ENFORCED or MADE NEW FOR THIS COVENANT in any New Testament Verses as Matthew 7:24 earlier Calls it as “CHRIST’S SAYINGS” agreeing to Verses below too which also Speak likewise that the CONTEXT OF ENTERING HEAVEN IS THE FRUIT OF OBEYING AND TEACHING CHRIST’S DIRECT COMMANDS ONLY (“not” Eschatology of end time Prophecy “nor” knowing hidden Bible mystery or anything like that is referred to in any of HIS OWN MOST BLESSED WORDS WHEN HE SPOKE OF “FRUIT”), Verses:

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE COMMANDMENTS, and TEACHES MEN SO, shall be called LEAST IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; but WHOEVER DOES AND TEACHES THEM, he shall be called GREAT IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 20For I say to you, that unless YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS EXCEEDS the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES, YOU WILL BY NO MEANS ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19 – 20, NKJV)

 

Note: If you teach men to “break His Commands“, even if you are saved you will be LEAST so it DOESN’T MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CONVERT TO BREAK HIS NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS/TRADITIONS as it’s your heavenly loss to bear according to Matthew 5:19 clearly and vice versa and so, please don’t lose it “eternally”.

 

Matthew 5:20 means if “your FRUIT/OBEDIENCE TO HIS NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS” did “not exceed the Pharisees’ Level (human level)’, then YOU WILL NEVER ENTER HEAVEN.

 

Please don’t be deceived by funny man-made teachings and power play of cunning human words against what is plainly written here for “your loss could be Eternal“.

 

To bear the “fruit of Obeying His Commands“, you don’t need to be perfect but only obey/bear as much as you are given by measure of your faith by His Grace in His Mercy.

 

No one can change what is Written. Please read for yourself carefully and see whether it means so in these Verses so clearly even. One Day God may hold us responsible if we don’t preach this Doctrine of Fruit correctly as it’s sensitive to “entering Heaven Context even” as THE FRUIT CHRIST MEANS is clearly REFERRING TO KEEPING HIS VARIOUS COMMANDS according to the Measure of Grace given to us by His Mercy in all these Verses quoted here, so it’s 100% true regardless if we accept it or don’t Preach it.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

The “Classical We saved Souls argument” to justify anything that they did against New Testament Scripture. The danger is described in image with actual “Verse quotes”.

 

Please allow me to repeat:

 

Even if Saved (only God Saves souls not you nor I) teaching them to NOT OBSERVE NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS and Commands even which are from the Lord (1 Corinthians 14:37) and not the major New Testament Commands only risks this:

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

True Christianity should never differ from What is Written as Obedience is better than Sacrifice

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161543751572784

 

Example Question

 

– Is wrong when you don’t want to find out what is XXX doing and what the teachers teaching

– put in your own interpretation and over spiritualise thing and condemn people > mixing pagan with gospel > sin > not winning soul

– never simply quote bible especially when you are already in the wrong understanding on the project

– learn to celebrate XXXXX and other festival with other races, don’t build self-ego in faith, and most importantly don’t “evil’kan” everything and also mixing up culture+pagan+religion

I hope if there’s other with you supporting to voice up this, send my msg to them also

Register yourself into Bible school 👍🏻 have a good day. Seriously, next time don’t respond through phone msg when there is important issue/misunderstanding and text into group to create tension. A very wrong move. Next, consult bible scholar and bible school when you find this topic so much “issue” “conflict” and “important” to be issued – not only in XXX, but for the whole XXX or Malaysia churches

 

Reply

 

1) A Bible School should only teach the Bible and Christian History

 

2) A soul is won when it Believes the Gospel “only”. No additional things of culture especially of that based on ‘other religions’ has any effect on faith. Faith has nothing to do with any human culture or those rooted in racism and demonic origins.

 

3) If a person is going to believe Christ, the Father will draw him. To say that the Father will only draw him (John 6:44) if the ‘cultural similarity stories are preached’ (especially those “deity ones” which are from the “Devils”) insults God’s Word

 

4) To preach anything more than that in the Bible School say Culture during evangelism & claiming that only with that the soul was saved type of testimonies is the same as claiming the Bible Verses alone were insufficient for conversion.

 

5) Worse still, may risk some type of “idolatry” (of mixing God’s Pure Word with “Demonic” rooted sources as satan himself transforms into an angel of light creating such stories in those cultures).

 

6) If any Bible School or Pastors insist testimonies such that only with such cultural techniques the souls were saved, it is same as telling that if they preached “Bible Verses only” such souls would not have been saved which also means that the Bible is insufficient for their Converts to believe (which is unbiblical and shows that such faith may not even be real and is “conditional upon things not Written in the Bible).

 

7) If someone would only believe if such man-made culture or demonically rooted Cultural practices are infused into Christianity, then their faith is “not’ based on the “Word of God only”. It’s your choice but I don’t need such faith or “men pleasing methods nor doctrines”. It’s better to please God by only using the “Words/, Culture” which came directly from GOD ONLY as Written in New Testament Verses.

 

8.) If you follow Human Cultural Preaching Method it is called SELF-IMPOSED RELIGION and FALSE HUMILITY which has NO VALUE according to these Verses

 

“… 20[m]Therefore, if YOU DIED WITH CHRIST from THE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF THE WORLD, why, as though living in the world, DO YOU SUBJECT YOURSELVES TO REGULATIONS— 21“DO NOT TOUCH, DO NOT TASTE, DO NOT HANDLE,” 22which all concern things which perish with the using—ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENTS and DOCTRINES OF MEN? 23THESE THINGS INDEED HAVE an APPEARANCE OF WISDOM in SELF-IMPOSED RELIGION, FALSE HUMILITY, and [n]neglect of the body, but are of NO VALUE AGAINST THE INDULGENCE of the flesh. …” (Colossians 2:20 – 23, NKJV)

 

If your Bible School is really interested in doing something which matters, why “not” PREACH and PRACTICE NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS (1 Corinthians 11 to 14 Which has already accepted by God) instead?

 

9) If a Christian persists in “human culture practices and not demonic rooted ones even” especially those which teach AGAINST A NEW TESTAMENT VERSE (example 1 Timothy 2:12), the JUDGMENT in HOLY SCRIPTURE is that THEIR WORSHIP BECOMES VAIN (let God Decide but the Risk is there as Christ Himself Taught next where He never Said that it’s a ‘small matter’ as the Pharisees likewise were just making up good intentions based ‘human rules likewise by their human culture’), Verses (example of ‘Corban’ Practice below and that’s what “Hypocrisy” is defined in Scripture as following “human culture” and “not” When one tries to obey New Testament Traditions):

 

“…  5But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.’ Thus you have made the [b]COMMANDMENT OF GOD OF NO EFFECT by YOUR TRADITION. 7HYPOCRITES! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying: 8‘These people [c]DRAW NEAR TO ME WITH THEIR MOUTH, And HONOR ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. 9And IN VAIN THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.’ ” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 15:5 – 9, NKJV)

 

Next, you will ask me to leave the Church if I don’t Agree. That’s an honour to be persecuted for standing up for ACTUAL NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS instead of kicking people out by practicing “human culture converts”, Verse:

 

“… BLESSED are those who are PERSECUTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS’ SAKE, For THEIRS IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:10, NKJV)

 

“… THEY WILL PUT YOU OUT OF THE SYNAGOGUES [CHURCHES*]; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 16:2, NKJV)

 

*[The first Church did gather in synagogues, examples, Acts 9:2, Acts 14:1]

 

I should obey “your man-made culture rules and opinions” but if choose New Testament Traditions instead, I am “divisive’, is it? Ego is Teaching “against New Testament Traditions and supporting human culture” by chasing away those who don’t agree with these ‘self-imposed religions’.

 

10) If your Bible schools want to really honour God, let them start accepting the Bible Verses such as 1 Timothy 2:12 instead of kicking out those who Preach such Verses and accepting those who preach against Verses and add on human/demonic culture. In short a pure Bible school should only teach from the Bible for anything more is a “stumbling block” for those who respect the Word of God only as Doctrine or Method of Evangelism and anything more is breaking the Rule of don’t make any “Doctrinal Differences/New Methods of Evangelism” Based on something which is “not Written” as 1 Corinthians 4:6 – 7’s  context has Warned.

 

“… 6Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be [c]PUFFED UP ON BEHALF OF ONE AGAINST THE OTHER. 7For who [d]MAKES YOU DIFFER FROM ANOTHER? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? …” (1 Corinthians 4:6 – 7, NKJV)

 

Note: The Verse above condemns those CHRISTIANS or CHRISTIANITY which DIFFERS FROM ONE ANOTHER based on PRACTICES WHICH ARE NOT WRITTEN such as your “culture” and  those who reject WRITTEN Bible Verses (e.g. 1 Timothy 2:12) Warning that “GOD’S WILL” in such cases is to “STICK TO WHAT’S WRITTEN” only to not Break His Command in this aspect to have UNITY BASED ON AGREEING ON WHAT’S WRITTEN ONLY (a method which has “no” condemnation and I will choose that; may your Bible Schools learn this correctly first to HONOUR GOD instead of HONOURING MAN MADE CULTURE or DEMONICALLY ROOTED THINGS).

 

Anyway, please do whatever you like in your Bible Schools or convert anyone with any attachments with worldly cultures or demonic roots but I will “not” be part of it and will stick to the FAITH BASED ON WHAT IS WRITTEN ONLY as that’s 100% Approved in New Testament Scripture and OBEDIENCE to NEW TESTAMENT VERSES type of Faith IS BETTER THAN ANY CULTURAL SACRIFICE TO CONVERT or such faith (1 Samuel 15:22).

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

Biblical Answer to which is more Important – “PRAYER” or “GOD’S LAW/COMMANDS”?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161542617692784

 

Verses:

 

“… One who TURNS AWAY HIS EAR FROM HEARING THE LAW, Even HIS PRAYER IS AN ABOMINATION. …” (Proverbs 28:9, NKJV)

 

This Verse is 100% preserved as even the “Septuagint (LXX) reads exactly the “same”:

 

“… 9He that TURNS AWAY HIS EAR from HEARING THE LAW, even he HAS MADE HIS PRAYER ABOMINABLE. …” (Proverbs 28:9, Septuagint, LXX, Brenton Septuagint Translation)

 

Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/proverbs/28.htm

 

Comments:

 

1) “God’s Law” = “His Commands” are more important than any prayer especially more important than “prayers from those who SPEAK AGAINST HIS COMMANDMENTS” which is an “ABOMINATION“.

 

2) In principle of this same Verse (as God’s Principles do “not” change), do you think that one who turns his ear away FROM CHRIST’S DIRECT NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS OR TRADITIONS is going to have “his PRAYER HEARD OR AN ABOMINATION?”

 

3) This is another clear Proof that “IGNORING GOD’S NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS” (such as the CHARITY DOCTRINE which is the “most” in number of Commands and importance too second only to loving God, Mark 12:29 – 31) but DOING PRAYERS may indicate SUCH PRAYERS AS AN ABOMINATION (Let God Decide).

 

4) Also “Lawless” Christianity Practices of mixing “cultural things especially those with roots with other DEITIES OR EQUIVALENT” could also be considered TURNING AWAY FROM THE LAW OF GOD and as such may MAKE ONE’S PRAYER AN ABOMINATION if they’re not careful (We Warn of the possibilities but let God Alone Decide for He Alone knows All hearts).

 

Conclusion

 

That’s why in earlier post below we showed clearly by CHRIST’S OWN DIRECT WORDS that we ought to only bear FRUITS which are BASED ON OBEDIENCE TO HIS COMMANDS by HIS MEASURE OF GRACE.

 

Whatever that is “not” Based on “His Commands” or especially THOSE THINGS AGAINST HIS COMMANDS EVEN NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS (1 Corinthians 14:37) let us “NOT” participate in it lest we are trapped knowingly or unknowingly which causes our PRAYERS to be ABOMINATIONS instead by PRINCIPLE OF THIS VERSE due to “not” Obeying/Hearing HIS NEW TESTAMENT LAWS/COMMANDS likewise, link:

 

https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161540252312784/

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ministry Works and Beyond – Example from Scripture: Are we really Fasting and Praying for God?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161545219422784

 

Here’s a Mysterious Question God Asked and we will see God’s Shocking Reply next (which I have discussed in the previous books too)

 

“…  ‘WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME?  …” (Zechariah 7:5, NKJV)

 

Please notice carefully that God Only Asked about this AFTER SEVENTY YEARS they have practicing such “religious observation faithfully” and NEVER CORRECTED THEM EARLIER ALLOWING THEM TO BE IN ERROR FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.

 

Explanation

 

Please consider these “verses in full“:

 

“… 4Then THE WORD OF THE LORD of hosts came to me, saying, 5“Say to ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND, and TO THE PRIESTS: ‘WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME? 6When YOU EAT AND WHEN YOU DRINK, DO YOU NOT EAT AND DRINK FOR YOURSELVES? 7Should you not have OBEYED THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD proclaimed through the FORMER PROPHETS when Jerusalem and the cities around it were inhabited and prosperous, and the [f]South and the Lowland were inhabited?’ ”

8Then THE WORD OF THE LORD CAME TO ZECHARIAH, saying, 9“Thus says the Lord of hosts:

‘EXECUTE TRUE JUSTICE,

Show [g]MERCY AND COMPASSION

Everyone to his brother.

10Do not OPPRESS THE WIDOW OR THE FATHERLESS,

The ALIEN OR THE POOR.

Let none of you plan evil in his heart

Against his brother.’

11“But they refused to heed, shrugged[h] their shoulders, and stopped[i] their ears so that they could not hear. 12Yes, they made their hearts like flint, REFUSING TO HEAR THE LAW and THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD OF HOSTS had sent by HIS SPIRIT THROUGH THE FORMER PROPHETS. Thus GREAT WRATH came from the Lord of hosts.  …” (Zechariah 7:4 – 12, NKJV)

 

Note: The CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE part is implied as the opposite to “… 10Do not OPPRESS THE WIDOW OR THE FATHERLESS, The ALIEN OR THE POOR. …” Which means “HELP THEM FINANCIALLY OR IN ANY WAY INSTEAD”.

 

Comments:

 

1) God Asked like that because when they fasted or prayed, it’s just for “self prosperity” or in analogy God Says that it’s to “fill self”

 

“… WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME? 6When YOU EAT AND WHEN YOU DRINK, DO YOU NOT EAT AND DRINK FOR YOURSELVES?  …”

 

 

2) God Wants to see how much we are willing to obey “His Commands” instead of doing things of prayer requests for self benefits

 

“… 7Should you not have OBEYED THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD proclaimed through the FORMER PROPHETS …”

 

 

 

 

3) The ONLY Work God Was Interested for them to do as Repentance here (nothing else mentioned so that their prayer+fasting here is to be accepted) was “not” the fake justice of ‘rich man pleasing ministries’ (but never spending a cent on the real poor) and clearly points to the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE which GOD CLAIMS TO HAVE SPOKEN BY HIS SPIRIT to HIS FORMER PROPHETS THIS SAME MESSAGE as “True Justice’

 

“… EXECUTE TRUE JUSTICE,

Show [g]MERCY AND COMPASSION

Everyone to his brother.

10Do not OPPRESS THE WIDOW OR THE FATHERLESS,

The ALIEN OR THE POOR.

Let none of you plan evil in his heart

Against his brother.’ …  12Yes, they made their hearts like flint, REFUSING TO HEAR THE LAW and THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD OF HOSTS had sent by HIS SPIRIT THROUGH THE FORMER PROPHETS. Thus GREAT WRATH came from the Lord of hosts. …”

 

Conclusion

 

This is what fake ministries and pride looks like namely not focusing on the poor with Money collected in God’s Name (perhaps giving tit bits in proportion) while “swallowing the camel of tithes” because it “benefits them financially” but the “Justice and Love of God” of GIVING ALMS do “not” take a BIG BUDGET OF THEIR MONEY COLLECTIONS (not even talking about personal income yet) as CHRIST HAS WARNED THIS SAME CONTEXT TOO, Verses:

 

“… 23“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For YOU PAY TITHE of mint and anise and cummin, and have NEGLECTED THE WEIGHTIER MATTERS of the LAW: JUSTICE AND MERCY and FAITH. These you OUGHT TO HAVE DONE, WITHOUT LEAVING THE OTHERS UNDONE. 24BLIND GUIDES, who STRAIN OUT A GNAT AND SWALLOW A CAMEL! 25“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you CLEANSE THE OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and dish, but INSIDE THEY ARE FULL OF EXTORTION and [l]SELF-INDULGENCE. 26Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also. 27“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like WHITEWASHED TOMBS which indeed appear BEAUTIFUL OUTWARDLY, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also OUTWARDLY APPEAR RIGHTEOUS TO MEN, but INSIDE YOU ARE FULL OF HYPOCRISY AND LAWLESSNESS. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 23:23 – 28, NKJV)

“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For YOU TITHE mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. 43Woe to you Pharisees! For you love the [m]best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces. 44Woe to you, [n]scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like graves which are not seen, and the men who walk over them are not aware of them.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 45, NKJV)

Note: The ONLY Religious Act Mentioned as a “Cure” for all this in Verses above BY CHRIST HIMSELF is the CHARITY DOCTRINE as per these Phrases “… 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” (Luke 11:41, NKJV) where ‘ALMS = CHARITY = Giving and Sharing things for FREE to those in need according to our capacity (i.e. by relative Measure, e.g. Luke 12:46 – 48, Luke 21:1 – 3)’.

 

Humility is Preaching God’s Word while Pride is skipping  all these but focusing on “Prayer Request for self” as GOD HIMSELF ASKS, in these scary Verses (I repeat):

 

“… 5“Say to ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND, and TO THE PRIESTS: ‘WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME? 6When YOU EAT AND WHEN YOU DRINK, DO YOU NOT EAT AND DRINK FOR YOURSELVES? …” (Zechariah 7:5 – 6, NKJV)

but focusing on “Prayer Request for self” as GOD HIMSELF ASKS, part:

 

“…DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME? 6When YOU EAT AND WHEN YOU DRINK, DO YOU NOT EAT AND DRINK FOR YOURSELVES? …” (Zechariah 7:6, NKJV)

Everything is by Relative Measure so who takes God’s Money or has access to it has to do it and the rest based on “what they have” (Luke 21:1 – 3, Luke 12:46 – 48). Also Vanity is focusing on things which “benefit self” as God Clearly Implies here where in contrast the Charity Doctrine is what God Points as “Real” to Him, as He Calls it here “True” in “True Justice” (Zechariah 7:8 earlier).

 

 

If God Asked this and Replied it in Scripture, we should learn it lest we Irritate Him in the same way the past ones did.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

Decide for yourselves.

 

I have decided to follow Scripture as it is Written way and with Actual Church History (first 1900 years) as the “Safe Route Scripturally”.

 

1) Bible because it is the Word of God (so must be Taught)

 

2) The Bible Speaks of “Cloud of Witnesses” (Hebrews 12:1 – 3) whose Faith we are to Imitate

 

1. i) Imitate their Faith in New Testament “Traditions” is called IMITATING CHRIST (so we don’t need cultural imitation or anything else – the Bible already PRAISE this WAY 100% Approved)

 

“… 1IMITATE ME, just as I also IMITATE CHRIST. 2Now I PRAISE you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and KEEP the TRADITIONS just as I delivered them to you. …” (1 Corinthians 11:1 – 2, NKJV)

 

1. ii) Imitate their Faith in other aspects

 

“… Brethren, join in following my example, and NOTE THOSE WHO ALSO WALK, as you have us for A PATTERN. …” (Philippians 3:17, NKJV0

 

So we take quotes from Church History to prove similar doctrines or “possibilities” on things which we are “not” sure 100%.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

The Spirit of God Will HELP to OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS

 

(any of it according to the Measure of Grace Given, From Matthew 5 to Matthew 7 to 1 Corinthians 11 to 14, 2 Peter 3:2 etc.)

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161543976682784

 

Please notice the words “Obey His Commands” in Verse in image which is what the HOLY SPIRIT of God HELPS us to OBEY, Verses:

 

“… 15“If YOU LOVE ME, [d]KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS. 16And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another [e]HELPER, that He may ABIDE WITH YOUR FOREVER— 17the SPIRIT of TRUTH, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.  …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:15 – 17, NKJV)

 

Comment: Please notice how Christ Describes the “Spirit of Truth” to be a “Helper” in the Context of HELPING US OBET HIS COMMANDMENTS. Gifts are an option not Command, example Verses:

 

“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY [of Agape/Love]. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)

 

That is why we don’t “RISK” anyone’s FAITH to GO AGAINST NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS.

 

“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)

 

Example Question

Where’s the revival now and how to harvest them. Never simply quote bible to condemn ministers and ministries established by God. You are not telling me what is right, I won’t be offended by you. But you are “Educating God” using His own words bible to condemn what God is doing.

 

Reply

That argument works both ways. Why not study the “Bible Verses” and Preach that only? Why try to “Educate God” with “Human Culture?”

 

Did you know that all the missionary work before the 20th century was done with ZERO WOMEN PASTORS and also ZERO CHARISMATIC GIFTS even WITHIN PROTESTANT CHRITSIANITY itself for 1900 years of Christian History.

 

They already evangelized and proved it as “Work of God”. Why twist it to do “new ways”? Even if you have new ways, why “not” acknowledge  and allow those wo wish to do it that approved way say of obeying New Testament Traditions in your church itself if you really respect ‘all work of God’? if you don’t allow it in your church, we don’t allow your ways either in our lives.

 

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Church Finance Politics  and New Testament Traditions Issues

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161549481877784

 

 

1) New Testament Traditions and how it is Scripture  has been discussed in post in link below

 

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161548055502784

 

 

Thus following this Way of Scripture and Church History for the first 1900 years of Christianity which had “no” other way apart from “obeying all these New Testament Traditions” (as many churches still do today), is 100% Approved Way as OBEYING THE WORD OF GOD as these Verses confirm beautifully and thus has “no” condemnation.

 

“… ALL SCRIPTURE is given by INSPIRATION of GOD, and is profitable for DOCTRINE, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, …” (2 Timothy 3:16, NKJV)

 

Since all SCRIPTURE is by the MOST BLESSED HOLY SPIRIT of GOD and can be USED FOR DOCTRINE (as 2 Timothy 3:16 above clearly Reveals) so we can FOLLOW THIS NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS as IT IS WRITTEN.  So our DOCTRINE here for this is 100% Approved of God. Can you see it please?

 

Also, Teaching or Speaking against HIS COMMANDS or TRADITIONS here which ARE SCRIPTURE has the RISK OF THE UNFORGIVABLE BLASPHEMY of THE HOLY SPIRIT (we cannot say for sure because ONLY GOD CAN DECIDE that) but we WARN of the DANGER and LEAVE it to your decision).

 

 

If it turns out to be the unforgivable Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12:30 – 32) or you caused some to do that by following and speaking AGAINST these NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS, are you going to be saved?

 

 

If you turn out be to be right in thy “new ways” and “God Really Spoke and told you can”, even so WE WILL NOT BE CONDEMNED for UPHOLDING THIS NEW TESTAMENT TRADITION SCRIPTURE WAY (as it was upholded by 1900 years of Christianity till today) and BEST STILL is THE WAY OF SCRIPTURE.

 

 

 

Also, every racist Tom, Dick and Harry would want to evangelize their own race or the rich and so decide Church Money to be spent on “saving souls excuse” but neglect the “poor financially souls”.

 

If not true, please do some “free ministry programs for the poor such as free Math classes or something paying the teacher only” (if none are willing in your denomination/church, I will do this for you).

 

If not, the claim is true as your Tadika ministry to Homeschool can only afforded by the rich and targets such income group people only with CHURCH MONEY for SUCH MINISTRIES or SALARIES for SUCH (even if they pay for the FEES this is NOT what THE CHURCH PREMISES ought to do UNLESS an EQUAL RELATIVE MEASURE of that CHURCH MONEY or PROFIT is SPENT ON THE POOR, “percentage count”, do the Math as God Will, example Luke 21:1 – 4).

 

Knowing and NOT knowing God’s WILL IN THIS as many Bible Verses Testify (you can see from the free recent pdf Books too) DOES NOT EXEMPT YOU or YOUR CHURCH as INNOCENT but ONLY whether it MERITS MORE or LESS PUNISHMENTS accordingly, Verses:

 

“…, 46the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47And that SERVANT WHO KNEW HIS MASTER’s WILL,  and DID NOT PREPARE himself or do according to his will, SHALL BE EATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. 48But HE WHO DID NOT KNOW YET COMMITTED THINGS DESERVING OF STRIPES, SHALL BE BEATEN WITH FEW. For EVERYONE TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, FROM HIM MUCH IS REQUIRED; and TO WHOM MUCH IS COMMITTED, of HIM THEY WILL ASK THE MORE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:46 – 48, NKJV)

 

Comments:

 

1. The Verse above speaks of the Context of believers (“servant”) as if he does the same as how the unbelievers likewise show partiality in politics to favor their race with Government Money or equivalent, they end up likewise, phrase here “… appoint him his portion with the unbelievers …”.

 

 

2. Many Beatings for Christians who knew GOD’s WILL (example in this Church Finance area)

“… 7And that SERVANT WHO KNEW HIS MASTER’s WILL,  and DID NOT PREPARE himself or do according to his will, SHALL BE EATEN WITH MANY STRIPES.  …”

 

3. Few Beatings for Christians who DID NOT KNOW GOD’s WILL (example in this Church Finance area)

“… 48But HE WHO DID NOT KNOW YET COMMITTED THINGS DESERVING OF STRIPES, SHALL BE BEATEN WITH FEW. …”

 

4. Relative Measure

“… For EVERYONE TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN, FROM HIM MUCH IS REQUIRED; and TO WHOM MUCH IS COMMITTED, of HIM THEY WILL ASK THE MORE. …”

 

Conclusion

This same Judgment does “not” apply just to “your Church” but “ours too” and gathering of believers if they Collect Money in God’s Name or individually too (so it is fair to all) and by relative measure (% count as per Luke 21:1 – 4).

 

If these elements of Doctrine were True, why God did NOT correct me or you earlier?

 

Please remember, that even FOR 70 YEARS they PRAYED and FASTED but WERE WRONG God ONLY REVEALED THIS CHARITY DOCTRINE ASPECT AFTER THAT (letting them to be WRONG for such a LONG TIME with regards to this CHARITY DOCTRINE CONTEXT), Verses:

 

“…  ‘WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME?  …” (Zechariah 7:5, NKJV)

 

Please notice carefully that God Only Asked about this AFTER SEVENTY YEARS they have practicing such “religious observation faithfully” and NEVER CORRECTED THEM EARLIER ALLOWING THEM TO BE IN ERROR FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.

 

The CHARITY DOCTRINE CORRECTION aspect so that THEIR FASTING AND PRAYERS are ACCEPTED is SEEN WHEN THESE VERSES are quoted in “full” as follows:

 

“… 4Then THE WORD OF THE LORD of hosts came to me, saying, 5“Say to ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND, and TO THE PRIESTS: ‘WHEN YOU FASTED AND MOURNED in the fifth and seventh months DURING THOSE SEVENTY YEARS, DID YOU REALLY FAST FOR ME—FOR ME? 6When YOU EAT AND WHEN YOU DRINK, DO YOU NOT EAT AND DRINK FOR YOURSELVES? 7Should you not have OBEYED THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD proclaimed through the FORMER PROPHETS when Jerusalem and the cities around it were inhabited and prosperous, and the [f]South and the Lowland were inhabited?’ ”

8Then THE WORD OF THE LORD CAME TO ZECHARIAH, saying, 9“Thus says the Lord of hosts: ‘EXECUTE TRUE JUSTICE, Show [g]MERCY AND COMPASSION Everyone to his brother.  10Do not OPPRESS THE WIDOW OR THE FATHERLESS, The ALIEN OR THE POOR.

Let none of you plan evil in his heart Against his brother.’ 11“But they refused to heed, shrugged[h] their shoulders, and stopped[i] their ears so that they could not hear. 12Yes, they made their hearts like flint, REFUSING TO HEAR THE LAW and THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD OF HOSTS had sent by HIS SPIRIT THROUGH THE FORMER PROPHETS. Thus GREAT WRATH came from the Lord of hosts.  …” (Zechariah 7:4 – 12, NKJV)

Comment: OPRESSING the POOR or WIDOW or FATHERLESS is “not” just when one does direct harm but also WHEN ONE DOES NOT GIVE GOD’s MONEY or CHURCH MONEY to them as CHRIST HAS WARNED LIKEWISE in Luke 11:39 – 42 as I have discussed at the end of this Book in detail too.

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

 

 

Safe Route Scripturally  – What is the Wedding Garment?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161552296927784

 

Wedding of the Lamb = First Resurrection = Few Saved.

 

Other support quotes from earlier books:

 

 

1) #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook (Page 82)

 

When Christ Spoke ‘of Many are called but Few Chosen’, He was not talking about earthly Prosperity or Equivalent in Verses below, but rather the context of the “few Chosen” is they that would have the “Wedding Garment” (so what’s the ‘Wedding Garment Definition’? Let’s see with “Bible Verses” next & not the deceptive opinions of men):

 

White Garment = Wedding Garment = Holiness + Good Works in Action (e.g. Charity Doctrine Lifestyle) = Mystery of “For MANY are CALLED, but FEW are CHOSEN.”

 

“… 11“But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who DID NOT HAVE on a WEDDING GARMENT. 12So he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?’ And he was speechless. 13Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, [b]take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14“For MANY are CALLED, but FEW are CHOSEN.” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 22:11 – 14, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

 

 

2) #saferoutescripturallybook   (Pages 126 and 127)

 

1. i) Please notice carefully that the LAODICEAN CHURCH did NOT HAVE “WHITE GARMENTS” even though they were FINANCIALLY PROPEROUS and had MANY CONVERTS and were HEALTH-WISE PROSPEROUS on EARTH and to “Correct” them Christ DID NOT Point to THEIR FAITH but “THEIR WORKS” which was Wrong (yes please notice the phrase “YOUR WORKS” carefully in Verses below):

 

“… 15“I KNOW YOUR WORKS, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot. 16So then, because YOU ARE LUKEWARM, and neither [k]cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth. 17Because you say, ‘I AM RICH, HAVE BECOME WEALTHY, and HAVE NEED OF NOTHING’—and do not know that YOU ARE WRETCHED, MISERABLE, POOR, BLIND, AND NAKED— 18I counsel you to BUY FROM ME GOLD REFINED IN THE FIRE, that YOU MAY BE RICH; and WHITE GARMENTS that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 3:15 – 18, NKJV)

 

Note: I repeat, the ONLY SIN of the Laodicean Church was “Prosperity” (nothing else is Written as Christ points to other Church to have ‘sexually immoral or Doctrine of Nicolaitans or Balak etc.’). They had some type of “FAITH in Christ with PROSPERITY focus” BUT did NOT HAVE the CHARITY DOCTRINE as First Christianity quote below reveals this Context too likewise (example from Page 182 from the #AlmsgivingandAtonementMysteryBook ):

 

“… “Just as lukewarm water causes people who receive it to vomit,” he says, “hence I too, through a word of my mouth will vomit you like DETESTED FOOD INTO ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, for you MINGLED THE THORNS OF RICHES with the seed of the divine word216 in your own poverty by spiritual ignorance, and the blindness of your intelligible217 eyes AND THE NAKEDNESS OF GOOD DEEDS.”218 Rev. 3:18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you will become rich, and that you MAY PUT ON WHITE GARMENTS, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed, and salve to anoint your eyes, that you may see. “If you would be rich,” he says, “to acquire a burning résolve and a willing heart take refined gold from me, the Enricher, the instructive Word illumined by the fire of 9 1 0 trials, through which you will hâve the inviolable treasure in the heart and be clothed in the most BRILLIANT GARMENT [44] OF VIRTUES through which the NAKEDNESS ATTACHED TO YOU FROM SIN 990 WILL BE COVERED.” EYE SALVE (IS) ALSO LACK OF POSSESSIONS. …” – Blessed St. Andreas/Andrew, Bishop of Caesarea, Earliest* Greek Patristic commentary on the Apocalypse (c. 563 AD – c. 637 AD)

Source [ Point 43 – 44 , Pages 51 – 52, Chapter 9 ] :

https://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/2008_constantinou_andrew-translation.pdf

 

1. ii) Why is this Important? Only those with “WHITE GARMENTS” have their names “Written” in the “BOOK of LIFE” to escape the “Lake of Fire”, Verses:

 

“… He who OVERCOMES shall be clothed in WHITE GARMENTS, and I will not blot out his name from the BOOK OF LIFE; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. …” (Revelation 3:5, NKJV)

 

iii) White Garments is NOT FAITH but GOOD WORKS as described in this ‘same Book of Revelation’:

 

“White Garment” = “Good Works in Action” (“Overcomers”, not holiness only) = “Righteous Acts of the Saints” (human Good Works letting God Work it through us, His Will), Verse:

 

“… 7Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8And to her it was granted to be ARRAYED IN FINE LINEN, CLEAN AND BRIGHT, for the FINE LINEN is the RIGHTEOUS ACTS OF THE SAINTS. 9Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he said to me, “These are the true sayings of God.” . …” (Revelation 19:7 – 9, NKJV)

 

Better to be Safe Scripturally and “Prepare”  for it likewise for which there is “no” condemnation (May God Help us to be Wise).

 

Peace to you

 

 

 

 

Sermon on the Mount Mystery (Matthew 5 to Matthew 7) – CHRIST’S Most Important Sermon

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161568788032784

 

As per quote in image, this Sermon on the Mount is FULL of CHARITY DOCTRINE VERSES of SHARING and GIVING toward ENEMIES even to HOLINESS Commands (including PRAYER and FASTING) as well with other COMMANDS for JUDGMENT.

 

So we should PREACH ALL of THESE AS IT IS WRITTEN in order to PREACH like CHRIST. Not one Verse in this ‘Sermon of Mount’ is about ‘End time Prophecies’ (proving that these are all secondary) or ‘how to receive earthly blessings to enjoy prosperity’ (which does NOT exist under the New Covenant, only “Contentment” regardless what is Given asking only for “Needs” & “Sharing, anything more”).

 

A Converting “MANY” Lawless Christianity is DENIED at the END of this SERMON of the MOUNT as follows for the REASON of “LAWLESSNESS” (NOT doing “His Commands’ type of “CONVERSIONS”):

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ  (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

“… But why do you call Me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and NOT DO THE THINGS WHICH I SAY? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:46, NKJV)

 

 

 

 

Which Commands?

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

“His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

 

Peace to you

 

Salvation Cannot be Earned – Highlight from CHRIST’S WORDS ONLY

 

“FEW Chosen” (Matthew 22:14) = “… 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:24, NKJV) above.

 

“His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

In short, “if Chosen”, one will be able to do “His Commands” by ‘Relative Measure’ and Vice Versa.

 

 

 

 

 

Mystery of Many Called Few Chosen – who are the “FEW” Chosen?

 

Source Post:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161571417157784

 

His “Grace” will exhibit the “Work” of Salvation in the “Few” Chosen, indeed it cannot be earned:

 

Comment: In Matthew 22 itself the Context of “… 14“For MANY are CALLED, but FEW are CHOSEN.” …” for those “… there who DID NOT HAVE on a WEDDING GARMENT. …” points to those “WHOSE WORKS” are described “Parabolically” as ‘… went to his own farm, another to his business …’ (Matthew 22:5) and who consisted of both ‘… good and bad …’ (Matthew 22:10). So, the invited Christians here seem to have some type of Faith in Christ as they responded and made it as “guests” at “His Wedding” but some are classified as “GOOD” while others as “BAD” based on “THEIR WORKS” as these Verses point ‘parabolically’ too. The “FEW” represents those with “GOOD WORKS” if viewed like this. Only God Knows but it’s entirely “possible” as other Verses agree. So to be ‘Safe Scripturally’, we should Preach to encourage “Good Works” (fulfilling any Commands of Christ from Holiness to Charity Doctrine) for Christians to fulfil by “Relative Measure”.

 

 

 

White Garments is NOT FAITH but GOOD WORKS as described in this ‘same Book of Revelation’:

 

“White Garment” = “Good Works in Action” (“Overcomers”, not holiness only) = “Righteous Acts of the Saints” (human Good Works letting God Work it through us, His Will), Verse:

 

“… 7Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.” 8And to her it was granted to be ARRAYED IN FINE LINEN, CLEAN AND BRIGHT, for the FINE LINEN is the RIGHTEOUS ACTS OF THE SAINTS. 9Then he said to me, “Write: ‘Blessed are those who are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb!’ ” And he said to me, “These are the true sayings of God.” . …” (Revelation 19:7 – 9, NKJV)

 

Those with “Lawless Works” Will be the “Many” Denied despite “converting MANY based on ‘spiritual gifts such as Prophesying, Casting out Demons & Miracles claims instead of His Commands” (please notice the word “MANY” carefully):

 

“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:21 – 24, NKJV)

 

“FEW Chosen” (Matthew 22:14) = “… 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN WHO BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” (Matthew 7:24, NKJV) above.

 

Perhaps some of these could be “least” and be saved in the Second Resurrection 1000 years later, Revelation 20:5 (“possible” but let God Decide):

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

“His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).

 

In short, “if Chosen”, one will be able to do “His Commands” by ‘Relative Measure’ and Vice Versa.

 

 

 

MYSTERY of DO HIS COMMANDMENTS – “WORKS” THEOLOGY

 

Conclusion

 

“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM of HEAVEN; but whoever DOES and TEACHES them, he shall be called GREAT in the kingdom of heaven. …” – KING of the Heavens and the Most Blessed One, LORD of lords, Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19, NKJV)

 

“His Commands” here =  (not the abolished Torah parts but ‘what He Commanded and re-enforced for the New Testament’).