All about the Anonymous Christians and its author Jonathan Ramachandran
Jonathan Ramachandran is founder at AnonymousChristian.org which serves as a Christian Blog discussing the Greater Hope of Biblical Christianity in Christ Alone. He does not believe in any form of Unitarianism but strictly adheres to Lord Jesus Christ as the only Way, only Truth and only Life by which we hope and pray that most Men may eventually be Saved by His Mercy (if God Wills it). This is due to latest research as of year 2022 – 2024 with both Church Father quotes and early Christian writings such as the Shepherd of Hermas* (The Pastor) which seem to echo Non-Elect Salvation Possibility as shown in Powerpoint Slides below & in last page of book titled #LastBook for free pdfs for latest research/books on this topic and more:
i) Powerpoint Slide
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1C3FZh5AFL2aNDy9s7TA0TphwmF7dBbpP/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103161103828141436650&rtpof=true&sd=true
ii) Last Book – Possibilities and Dangers of Doctrine
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wjDRr6lzDQ-4D60J8sqmDH-S60tCqQIR/view?usp=sharing
He believes in the Inerrant and Inspired Authority of the Bible as Infallible and also accepts the First Christianity Writings such as the Shepherd of Hermas and the Apocalypse of Peter as possibly Inspired and Authoritative Writings as endorsed by the Earliest known Christian Canon called the Muratorian Canon. In his past he studied Actuarial Science, worked as a Seismic Engineer, did a few years of Christian Ministry under paid employment before returning to his school days passion as a Math Olympiad Competition Coach freelancing in that and now a National Coach for the Math Olympiad National team.
Apart from that he does some Christian Music under the label Anonymous Christian in an album titled Saviour of the World.
He also writes a theological & mathematical blog where both write-ups are displayed together on the same website. In his free time he also teaches how to play guitar by ear and recently released his first secular song in September 2019 titled Lost Without You under his name Jonathan which is uploaded via the YouTube Channel called The Failed Guitarist.
Free Math solutions are also shared in these Facebook pages:
i. Free Math Olympiad Secondary Solutions by Jon
https://www.facebook.com/CoachJonathanRamachandran/
ii. Free Math Olympiad Primary Solutions by Jon
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057109853813
iii. Free School Maths Solutions by Jon
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100070978834712
*A brief note about the “Shepherd of Hermas”
i) Question
Someone said that this verse is one of the hardest to understand “… And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams …” (Acts 2:17, KJV)
ii) My reply
This verse was literally it was used for Day of Pentecost on Acts 2:17. It’s not really about the vision/dream/prophecy but which one is “real”? That’s why I show “Shepherd of Hermas possibility” since it’s the only No. 1 vision/prophecy that has been approved by so many early great Christians from the 2nd to 5th centuries before it went out of use as there was no internet those days so unless something was transmitted it may not be known but to date, no Church council nor any Church Father has ever condemned the Shepherd of Hermas. Even the earliest most authoritative Christians with the Holy Spirit from Tertullian to St. Athanasius the Great and including even the direct Disciple of those who were disciples of the Apostles such as St. Irenaeus of Lyons too have approved it and there’s no prayers to virgin Mary or equivalent in it meaning it could be well preserved as it is. Since no one can say anything for sure we can present evidence and God Will understand even if we got tricked (but what are the odds of that in light of all the evidences and big names presented including the earliest Bibles of Christianity e.g. muratorian Canon, codex claromontanus etc. All including it too?)
iii) Example Shepherd of Hermas approval quote summary
[From Page 904 onward of the #ChiliasmBook] or [From Page 61 onward of the #EternalHellAnnihilationUniversalismBook]
Example Shepherd of Hermas Approval Quote: Shepherd of Hermas which was considered Scripture-Level in First Christianity by even St. Irenaeous of Lyons (Hearer/Disciple of St. Polycarp an apostolic father being the direct disciple of Apostle St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation) , Tertullian (father of Latin Christianity), Pope Callixtus I (Head of the entire Roman Catholic Church in his time in First Christianity), St. Clement of Alexandria (head of the Cathecatical School of Alexandria) and even the First Bibles of Christianity (the Muratorian or Roman Canon in the West & the Codex Claromontanus Canon in the East) while Eusebius (father of Church History) and St. Athanasius the Great (father of orthodoxy & Champion of Trinity) approved of its use for catechumens. Proof quotes and details in those pages (too much to list here).
Conclusion
I am not preaching “myself” in this website though my friend who helps build it puts more of my photos/songs/story etc. by God’s Grace which I appreciate. This is proven because I am quoting “earliest” Church Fathers and Christian authorities of doctrine from some of the holiest men to ever live for Christ. So it’s not me but their quotes proving that no personal opinions are carelessly added unless it has some “possibility” based on these First Christianity quotes presented in free pdfs/books. Can you “see” it?
Link for free pdfs/books below or research done between years 2022 to 2024 (“evidences”) on various topics which is important because we cannot love God “more” unless we know more accurately about Him as the First Christians did and “Sharing the Gospel” includes “accuracy” and NOT just “preaching about Christ” but also “Preaching what Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ taught and commanded too” (such as “Chiliasm” Prophecy aspect & “Charity Doctrine + Holiness” aspect as details listed out in latest research).
Important Note: Though sometimes I write in a way that may give the feel that “possibility” might just be true and refute the ideas against it, it does NOT necessarily mean I am “right” simply because I am well aware that I can be misinterpreting (but in light of these First Christianity quotes, I also could be right) and that’s why I present all this honestly as a “possibility” only either way and accept whichever God Reveals as Right One Day. Here are links for free pdf download for all these books (A hundred year old Christianity cannot tell you a 2000 year old story):
i) #DialoguesBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZDghJN2eq7MyygtUpbNVFW—LGorSMv/view?usp=share_link
ii) #BibleandChurchFathersQuoteBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1__t7iB0HZsI4P6dqXAxxBjk_WnC1J2wb/view?usp=share_link
iii) #SafeRouteScripturallyBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HUXXa2kgpImEpVWFg4AN0SBc0x4ulSLn/view?usp=share_link
- iv) #EternalHellAnnihilationUniversalismBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N5bK-LoBAg4VQN8eLtVWsqkQyoGE0Ad_/view?usp=sharing
- v) #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-zX7XgzguBYHkXWucUZ6xfMInbwtj0Z3/view?usp=share_link
- vi) #Edu4LifeBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XZDENeSl6mNPi6hyfGqvzBJCBlzAoqM9/view?usp=share_link
vii) #ChiliasmBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IzLcp1E-YoDtpAGY9qfnLeCL7ojc6-nj/view?usp=sharing
viii) #DoctrineBook or #BookofDoctrine
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12QmUFyND5rTAZo4jT5M_qRAukf-hnRBD/view?usp=sharing
viii) #MyCV15Oct2023
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wkVRrNxO2XSsy-YbyNWuCbuA5aLl3yeV/view?usp=sharing
Even if saved, more accurate faith/doctrine shine like heavens which is greater than simply converting many into less accurate faith/doctrine as Daniel 12:3 Prophesied. In the end, ABILITY is more IMPORTANT than AVAILABILITY as ROMANS 10:2 already REVEALED GOD’s WILL in this that “KNOWLEDGE” (i.e. ABILITY in DOCTRINAL – ACCURACY) is more important than even “ZEAL for GOD” (i.e. AVAILABILITY or simply converting for God in their own way) according to these BIBLE VERSES as IT IS WRITTEN. In short, anything which affects eternity is vital.
“… And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, SOME to EVERLASTING LIFE, SOME to SHAME and EVERLASTING CONTEMPT. Those who are WISE shall shine Like the BRIGHTNESS OF THE FIRMAMENT, And THOSE WHO TURN MANY to RIGHTEOUSNESS Like the STARS forever and ever. 4“But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase. …” (Daniel 12:2 – 4, NKJV)
or
“… 3And the WISE SHALL SHINE as the BRIGHTNESS OF THE FIRMAMENT, and SOME OF THE MANY RIGHTEOUS as the STARS FOR EVER and EVER. 4And thou, Daniel, close the words, and seal the book to the time of the end; until many are taught, and knowledge is increased. … 8And I heard, but I understood not: and I said, O Lord, what will be the end of these things? 9And he said, Go, Daniel: for the words are closed and sealed up to the time of the end. 10MANY MUST BE TESTED, and THOROUGHLY WHITENED, and TRIED WITH FIRE, and SANCTIFIED; but the transgressors shall transgress: and none of the transgressors shall understand; but the wise shall understand. …” (Daniel 12:3 – 4, 8 – 10, Brenton Septuagint Translation, based on the Septuagint or LXX)
“… 1Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for [a]Israel is that they may be saved. 2For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. 3For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. …” (Romans 10:1 – 4, NKJV)
[From Page 346 onward of the #LastBook]; please see how St. Ireneaus quotes “Daniel 12:3’s context”:
“… but when it is read by the Christians, it is a treasure, hid indeed in a field, but brought to light by the cross of Christ, and explained, both enriching the understanding of men, and showing forth the wisdom of God and declaring His dispensations with regard to man, and forming the kingdom of Christ beforehand, and preaching by anticipation the inheritance of the holy Jerusalem, and proclaiming beforehand that the man who loves God shall arrive at such excellency as even to see God, and hear His word, and from the hearing of His discourse be glorified to such an extent, that others cannot behold the glory of his countenance, as was said by Daniel: Those who do understand, shall shine as the brightness of the firmament, and many of the righteous as the stars for ever and ever. Daniel 12:3 Thus, then, I have shown it to be, if any one read the Scriptures. …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church, First Doctor of the Church in order of time, Father of Catholic Theology, Chiliasm Church Father (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, (Book 4(IV), Chapter 26), Point 1-partial)
Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103426.htm
I believe that Prophets can have ZERO PROPHECY ERROR (Deuteronomy 18:19 – 22) and are subject to NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS (1 Corinthians 14:37 & 32) and if one already claim that a “PROPHECY” is ONE’s OWN ORACLE/Attempt even if WRONG, GOD ALLOWS it since HIS NAME is NOT quoted as “GOD TOLD me SO TYPES which risks ‘ETERNAL/Olam’ damnation if wrong same word in Daniel 12:2 ” (Jeremiah 23:37 – 40) as GOD HIMSELF explained in Jeremiah 23:36 so our way here leads NO one to hell even if wrong in prophecy aspect, can you see it? Also, comparing with St. Irenaeus of Lyons and St. Justin of Rome (earliest Chiliasm Church Father’s quotes whom I find most accurate & if anyone finds an error with them, let’s discuss) I keep away from much modern Christianity whose “prophecy” aspect seems to differ much to be “safe” but am willing to do “Charity Doctrine” or other parts of ministry with them if they want too (freewill choice). Here are the Verses (not empty claims):
“… 36And the [k]ORACLE OF THE LORD YOU SHALL MENTION NO MORE. For EVERY MAN’S WORD WILL BE HIS ORACLE, for you have perverted the words of the living God, the Lord of hosts, our God. 37Thus you shall say to the prophet, ‘What has the Lord answered you?’ and, ‘What has the Lord spoken?’ 38But since you say, ‘The [l]oracle of the Lord!’ therefore thus says the Lord: ‘Because you say this word, “The oracle of the Lord!” and I have sent to you, saying, “Do not say, ‘The oracle of the Lord!’ ” 39therefore behold, I, even I, WILL UTTERLY FORGET YOU and FORSAKE YOU, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and will cast you out of My presence. 40And I WILL BRING AN EVERLASTING (Olam) REPROACH UPON YOU, AND A PERPETUAL (Olam) SHAME, WHICH SHALL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.’ ” …” (Jeremiah 23:31 – 34, 36 – 40, NKJV)
“… 19And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. 20But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ 21And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’— 22when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. …” (Deuteronomy 18:19 – 22, NKJV)
One of the biggest “Prophecy” question in Christian theology is who are the MANY (not few) REJECTED by CHRIST from ENTERING HEAVEN SALVATION CONTEXT in the GREAT DENIAL of MATTHEW 7:13 – 24 based on LAWLESSNESS? (the scariest words “… I never knew you …” Matthew 7:23 which links Luke 6:46 below and Matthew 7:21 as same context as even Matthew 7:24 – 27 & Luke 6:46 – 49 are somewhat identical). Since “… no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, …” (2 Peter 1:20, NKJV), this is about the earliest quote I know for this Verses and it seems to point to unbelief (compare that he is a CHILIASM Prophecy believer), others due to “not enough works of righteousness” (Charity Doctrine etc. as his other quotes prove too) and some Prosperity Gospel type of Christians (word “LUXURY” below) all of whom CANNOT receive the HOLY SPIRIT as St. Irenaeus himself (not me) reveals this, isn’t it? (Note: the ‘opposite of luxury’ is ‘Charity Doctrine’ when converted to “action aspect”, right?)
[From Page 493 onward of the #ChiliasmBook]
“… In like manner, too, those are unclean which have the double hoof but do not ruminate: this is plainly an indication of all heretics, and of those who do not meditate on the words of God, neither are adorned with works of righteousness; to whom also the Lord says, Why do you call Me Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say to you? Luke 6:46 For men of this stamp do indeed say that they believe in the Father and the Son, but they never meditate as they should upon the things of God, neither are they adorned with works of righteousness; but, as I have already observed, they have adopted the lives of swine and of dogs, giving themselves over to filthiness, to gluttony, and recklessness of all sorts. Justly, therefore, did the apostle call all such carnal and animal, — [all those, namely], who through their own UNBELIEF and LUXURY DO NOT RECEIVE the DIVINE SPIRIT, and in their various phases cast out from themselves the life-giving Word, and walk stupidly after their own lusts: …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church, First Doctor of the Church in order of time, Father of Catholic Theology, Chiliasm Church Father (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, (Book 5(V), Chapter 8), Point 4)
Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103508.htm
Say if this was a FALSE writing, and I got TRICKED. At least I can show the LORD all these EVIDENCE and then Ask for MERCY, right? If your denomination was wrong, what evidence/reason you are going to give? Can you see it? That’s what responsible preaching means. About number of converts, if you believe all Catholics & Orthodox can be wrong or damned despite all the converting many works etc. what’s so special about other protestant or Pentecostal for their errors either? So let God decide but we need to “choose wisely” or “PREACH with EVIDENCE to be HONEST and SAFE”, fair, right?
P/S: Sample Slide from Powerpoint
Slide 283. Question: Can you become POOR by GIVING? Of Course that’s the whole IDEA of GIVING, isn’t it? But POOR on EARTH and RICH in HEAVEN.
In fact, CHRIST HIMSELF showed an EXAMPLE of HOW a POOR WIDOW became EVEN POORER since she has to give her LIFE SAVINGS which she had to LIVE ON (notice these words carefully) which LORD JESUS PRAISED as GAVE MOST which from other VERSES from HIM we understand that one becomes RICH in HEAVEN and GOD MEASURES by RELATIVE MEASURE and NOT amount, BIBLE Verses below:
[From Pages 530/585/793/85 onward of the #ChiliasmBook] Compare with St. Irenaeus of Lyons’ quote in SLIDE 274 earlier:
“… [1And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2and He saw also a CERTAIN POOR WIDOW putting in two mites.][a] 3So He said, “TRULY I say to you that this POOR widow has put in MORE THAN ALL; 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings [b]for God, but she OUT OF HER POVERTY PUT IN ALL THE LIVELIHOOD THAT SHE HAD.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 21:1 – 4, NKJV)
Note: Even for such a ‘remarkable giving’ CHRIST did NOT make her a MILLIONAIRE after that. Can you “see” it?
Do you know that CHARITY DOCTRINE is the ONLY RIGHTEOUS ACT which has DIRECTLY been linked by LORD JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF to the PHRASE “KEEP your LAMPS LIT” which can link to PARABLE of 5 WISE and 5 FOOLISH Virgins (Matthew 25:1 – 13) as most first Christianity taught including Martin Luther First Protestant as I have shown in my free pdf books as per ORIGINAL BIBLE which did NOT have this separation of Verses within this chapter which was only done In 1551?, a Parisian printer named Robert Stephanus (Roman Catholic became Protestant) who published a Greek and Latin edition of the New Testament in which each chapter was divided into separate verses (ask your Bible School Professor if I’m lying or not)
Which here is can you see the link” … SEEK HIS KINGDOM … 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY … an unfailing treasure in heaven … 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. … KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT ” below in ONE CONVERSATION without BREAKS? Ehem ehem and ONLY MONEY “Treasure” REVEALS our HEART (all else is “PRIDE of LIFE and DRAMA as long as they can KEEP EARNING & ENJOYING it, right? (me too included so it’s fair and let GOD COUNT; Verses here is by CHRIST and ETERNAL. In short no MONEY return is Promised by GOD on earth and ONLY Treasure in Heaven so don’t be deceived.
Notice word little flock (few/elect sheep) only mentioned in CHARITY DOCTRINE CONTEXT below
“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. 36You are also to be like people who are waiting for their master when he RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST, … . 38Whether he COMES IN THE [AA]SECOND WATCH, or EVEN IN THE [AB]THIRD, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 38, NASB)
Comment: His Return after the “Wedding” (First Resurrection, Revelation 20:4 – 6) during the “Second and Third Watches” could also imply His Surprise Visit to Earth during Christ’s 1000 years Millennial Reign (Revelation 20:5) where verses above points to the Context of “Doing the Charity Doctrine” when understood collectively implying its importance not just now but in the future Judgment Day too (Matthew 25:31 – 46).
Are we the LITTLE FLOCK which GETS the KINGDOM of HEAVEN? May God have Mercy
Slide 284. Most Blessed & Most Holy Trinity quotes by CHILIASM Church Fathers
(Examples of “earliest” quotes & notice CHILIASM Church Fathers all had the HOLY SPIRIT so we can contemplate CHILIASM PROPHECY Possibilities too and where they differ or what they meant, we can debate/discuss with “evidence” as that’s “honesty”; only trinity quotes earlier than these are by say St. Ignatius whose prophecy position is NOT written so hard to imagine they differ from any of these. NO earlier quote on TRINITY or equivalent exists and if someone says otherwise, ask them for quote & proof, fair, right?).
So this means if we accept TRINITY DOCTRINE it’s from these men whom GOD CHOSE to REVEAL it first as the BIBLE can be interpreted in many ways as even SOME early Christians/Heretics also DENIED TRINITY, right? That’s WHY EARLIEST Quotes are important and rest just copy what they said meaning CHILIASM PROPHECY POSITION is FROM THEM TOO and hence CAN BE TRUE (Higher probability? Let God Decide).
Also NONE of these believed in “Women pastors” either just saying. When someone speaks about “Love” just quote to them what CHRIST Said namely “… If you love Me, keep My commandments.…” (John 14:15, NKJV) i.e. any NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS such as CHARITY DOCTRINE (Luke 11:39 – 45, Luke 10:25 – 37, Matthew 25:31 – 46, Luke 12:30 – 34 as per Slide 283 earlier etc.) to HOLINESS including “Traditions” (1 Corinthians 14:37). So we cannot love without “obeying His Commands” and “Obedience is better than Sacrifice” (1 Samuel 15:22) i.e. “sacrifice” can be converting against these commands, can you “see” it?
And so only GOD can see INSIDE of a PERSON thus let HIM judge who did with MORE MEASURE of LOVE but it CANNOT be DONE AGAINST or WITHOUT HIS COMMANDS. Also if we don’t have a Church/Charity collecting money/donations as even the Blessed Apostles had a safety net of “money collected laid at their feet” (Acts 4:35) but used for “common NEED only” meaning we can “hoard till end of life & give it to CHARITY via a WILL” as every PRIEST/MISSIONARY likewise lived on CHURCH MONEY SAFETY NET/SUPPORT SYSTEM while we can do it with OWN WORKING MONEY/POSSESIONS (not even donations) as Blessed Apostle St. Paul demonstrated in 1 Corinthians 9:13 – 18. So our FINANCE DOCTRINE is BIBLICAL.
“… But that He is Himself in His own right, beyond all men who ever lived, God, and Lord, and King Eternal, and the Incarnate Word, proclaimed by all the prophets, the apostles, and by the Spirit Himself, may be seen by all who have attained to even a small portion of the truth. … that He was despised among the people, and humbled Himself even to death and that He is the holy Lord, the Wonderful, the Counsellor, the Beautiful in appearance, and the Mighty God, Isaiah 9:6 coming on the clouds as the Judge of all men; Daniel 7:13 — all these things did the Scriptures prophesy of Him. …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church, First Doctor of the Church in order of time, Father of Catholic Theology, CHILIASM Church Father (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, (Book 3(III), Chapter 19), Point 2) Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103319.htm
“… that the Father is God, and the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God, and each is God; … Thus the connection of the Father in the Son, and of the Son in the Paraclete, produces three coherent Persons, who are yet distinct One from Another. These Three are one essence, not one Person, as it is said, I and my Father are One, John 10:30 in respect of unity of substance not singularity of number. …” – Blessed Tertullian, Father of Latin Christianity, Founder of Western Theological Scholarship, CHILIASM CHURCH FATHER, c. 155 AD – c. 240 AD, Against Praxeas, Chapter 13, Chapter 25) Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0317.htm
“… God begot before all creatures a Beginning, [who was] a certain rational power [proceeding] from Himself, who is called by the Holy Spirit, now the Glory of the Lord, now the Son, …”– Blessed St. Justin of Rome or St. Justin Martyr, CHILIASM Church Father, a Great Early Christian Apologist who is a Foremost Exponent of the Divine Word, who Influenced Virtually all of subsequent Christian philosophy and Catholic theology, Martyr for Christ, (c. 100AD – c. 160 AD, ‘Dialogue with Trypho’, CHAPTER 61) Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/01285.htm
“… The Holy Spirit, since He sanctifies creatures, is neither a creature nor subject to change. He is always good, since He is given by the Father and the Son … Lastly, as He is said in Scripture to be good, and is joined to the Father and the Son in baptism …” – Blessed Archbishop St. Ambrose of Milan, the First Great Latin Doctor of the Church, CHILIASM Church Father Converter, Baptizer & Teacher of St. Augustine of Hippo, (c. 340 AD – c. 397 AD On the Holy Spirit (Book I), Chapter 5) Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/34021.htm
Can you quote NON-CHILIASM Prophecy EARLIER than THESE with source & proof as I showed in Powerpoint and free pdfs/books? Cannot, right? Let’s debate to be fair.
Slide 285. Case for CHILIASM Summary.
Each CHILIASM Church Father quoted in Slide 284 except Tertullian due to some Montanism he was involved in is Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church as well. Example:
“… If, therefore, you assert that the Holy Spirit calls some other one God and Lord, besides the Father of all things and His Christ, answer me; for I undertake to prove to you from Scriptures themselves, that He whom the Scripture calls Lord is not one of the two angels that went to Sodom, but He who was with them, and is called God, that appeared to Abraham. … God begot before all creatures a Beginning, [who was] a certain rational power [proceeding] from Himself, who is called by the Holy Spirit, now the Glory of the Lord, now the Son, again Wisdom, again an Angel, then God, and then Lord and Logos; and on another occasion He calls Himself Captain, when He appeared in human form – Blessed St. Justin of Rome or St. Justin Martyr or Justin of Neapolis, CHILIASM Church Father, a Great Early Christian Apologist who is a Foremost Exponent of the Divine Word, who Influenced Virtually all of subsequent Christian philosophy and Catholic theology, Martyr for Christ, (c. 100AD – c. 160 AD, ‘Dialogue with Trypho’, CHAPTER 56, 61) Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/01285.htm
If Blessed Apostle St. Paul can declare these Verses in 1 Corinthians 9:13 – 18 by the Inspiration of the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God and NOT considered to be PRIDEFUL NOR LOSE ANY REWARD, we can likewise TEACH FINANCIAL DOCTRINE the same way as per SLIDE 284 earlier. Also if you think I’m debating too much that’s exactly what TRUE SPIRITUAL WAREFARE is according to 2 Corinthians 10:5.
Can you “see” it in images here?
Slide 286 – A SLIDE for LIFE – Answer to life’s most elusive question of WHY by quoting ONLY Most Blessed LORD JESUS CHRIST i.e. How to LIVE a LIFE which matters to GOD? All else is riddled with illusion and vanity. What Would Jesus Do (WWJD)?
Based on these Bible Verses by CHRIST Directly, are we PREACHING OURSELVES or the GOSPEL?
[From Page 85/86 onward of the #LastBook or #PODBook or #PossibilitiesandDangersofDoctrineBook]
“… [16Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[d] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?” 17So He said to him], [e]“Why do you call Me good? [f]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” [18He said to Him, “Which ones?”] Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ” 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I STILL LACK?” [21JESUS said to him], “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS. 23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. … 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” 28So JESUS SAID TO THEM, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” – The GREATEST ONE, The ONLY KING, GOD in FLESH, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:16 – 24, 27 – 30 NKJV)
CHRIST HIMSELF only pointed to HOLINESS COMMANDS (not even Sabbath or Tithes or church attendance etc.) when asked “Which Ones?” to CHARITY DOCTRINE as PERFECTION of ENTERING HEAVEN type of SALVATION in Matthew 19:16 – 30 (so all else are “mixed” with man-made doctrinal errors – Please read carefully the BIBLE VERSES above & NOT opinions of men but from Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ Directly above.
Example: There is NOTHING in CHRIST’s REPLY here about “believing in pre-trib rapture or attending Church” to “keep lamps burning” but CHARITY DOCTRINE is as per SLIDE 283 earlier and here & greater the CHARITY DOCTRINE (word “PERFECT” can link to “HUNDREDFOLD” levels etc.) greater the HEAVENLY REWARDS and CHRIST did NOT say CHARITY DOCTRINE is an OPTION for SOME CHRISTIANS only or PASTORS excluded since APOSTLES DID IT too (Matthew 19:27 above) in ENTERING HEAVEN CONTEXT here. Don’t add nor remove His Words as IT is WRITTEN & if anything else was important, He would have Said in His Reply here and this is how MANY (not few) become LAST or FIRST & Vice Versa in Heaven’s SAVED type even. End.
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Slide 287 – Why Financial SIN of Luxury beyond needs can lead to HELL and HOW MONEY and LUXURY desire REVEALS who we REALLY ARE? (where is the threshold, let GOD Decide but SCRIPTURE is clear even in NEW TESTAMENT CONTEXT)
Please see James 5:5 and 1 Timothy 5:6 exact same word in Koine Greek and can be linked to Hebrew word in Sodom’s Ezekiel 16:49 and Christ in the ONLY description of a rich man who went to HELL due to LUXURY (NO other sins mentioned primarily in Luke 16:19, 25) with 2 Peter 2:13 and Jude 1:12 (men who try to ENJOY CHARITY DOCTRINE without contributing to it as I have shown about AGAPE FEAST or LOVE FEASTS in [From Page 976 – 978 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook] and Shepherd of Hermas links LUXURY to DEATH/CORRUPTION for “Christians context” and St. Irenaeous of Lyons quote in “I never knew you” LUXURY-Context included in Slide 282 earlier with St. Jusin Martyr “On the Resurrection”(Chapter 3) writing that those lose VIRGINITY can REPENT and LIVE as THOUGH RENEWED etc. on next SLIDE 288 (so no point judging those who repented).
“… And he said to me, Do you see this shepherd? I see him, sir, I said. This, he answered, is the angel of luxury and deceit: he wears out the souls of the servants of God, and perverts them from the truth, deceiving them with wicked desires, through which they will perish; for they forget the commandments of the living God, and walk in deceits and empty luxuries; and they are ruined by the angel, some being brought to death, others to corruption. … Corruption, then, has a hope of a kind of renewal, but death has everlasting ruin. …” – Shepherd of Hermas (Book 3, Similitude 6, Chapter 2)
Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02013.htm
Many false prophets will arise and deceive many (Matthew 24:11). Are you preaching these Bible Verses as it is Written? (The Shepherd of Hermas and St. Ireneaous quotes just proves FIRST CHRISTIANITY also taught likewise).
When we write against financial sins, some can think we are jealous but GOD KNOWS and BIBLE Verses WARN it and we PREACH it TRUTHFULLY and our part is done.
CHRIST Taught the same that CONTEXT for we CANNOT SERVE GOD and MONEY (must CHOOSE one) is CHARITY DOCTRINE by RELATIVE MEASURE in the same CHAPTER when DISCUSSING this VERSE in Luke 16:9 – 13 as shown in next SLIDE 288 [From Page 581/662 onward of the #ChiliasmBook]. So not getting in right in doctrine of money can lead to hell (Let God Decide) and they way a pastor/priest preaches about money part, I usually can make my mind about their level of truth or understanding or mostly honesty even in light of these Bible Verses. Peace to you.
Slide 288 – What DID CHRIST Teach about FINANCE? Did he Teach “Prosperity Gospel” or “Charity Doctrine” or both?
CHRIST Taught the same that CONTEXT for we CANNOT SERVE GOD and MONEY (must CHOOSE one) is CHARITY DOCTRINE by RELATIVE MEASURE in the same CHAPTER when DISCUSSING this VERSE in Luke 16:9 – 13 as shown in next SLIDE 288 [From Page 581/662 onward of the #ChiliasmBook].
So not getting in right in doctrine of money can lead to hell (Let God Decide) and they way a pastor/priest preaches about money part, I usually can make my mind about their level of truth or understanding or mostly honesty even in light of these Bible Verses. Peace to you.
1) The MONEY in CHRIST’s PARABLES refers to CHARITY DOCTRINE ACTS done with literal money and/or with the TEACHINGS including NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS of the CHURCH shared for FREE as much as possible
“… 1. Since therefore we have such proofs, it is not necessary to seek the truth among others which it is easy to obtain from the Church; since the apostles, like a rich man [depositing his money] in a bank, lodged in her hands most copiously all things pertaining to the truth: so that every man, whosoever will, can draw from her the water of life. Revelation 22:17 For she is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. … For how should it be if the apostles themselves had not left us writings? Would it not be necessary, [in that case,] to follow the course of the tradition which they handed down to those to whom they did commit the Churches? …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church, First Doctor of the Church in order of time, Father of Catholic Theology, CHILIASM Church Father (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, (Book 3(III), Chapter 4), Point 1)
Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103304.htm
2) Note Luke 16:9 – 13 applies in CONTEXT of ETERNAL HOME for EVERY CHRISTIAN and NOT for some Christian only to do CHARITY DOCTRINE (by Relative Measure unless no money understood as those receiving it, right?) , can you see it here in BIBLE VERSES by CHRIST?
“… 9Here’s the lesson: USE YOUR WORLDLY RESOURCES to BENEFIT OTHERS AND MAKE FRIENDS. Then, when your possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an ETERNAL HOME. 10“If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. But if you are dishonest in little things, you won’t be honest with greater responsibilities. 11And IF YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY ABOUT WORLDLY WEALTH, who will trust you with the TRUE RICHES OF HEAVEN? 12And if you are not faithful with other people’s things, why should you be trusted with things of your own? 13“No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and be enslaved to money.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:9 – 13, NLT) Source: https://biblehub.com/nlt/luke/16.htm
Compare: [Another translation from Page 1698 of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook]
“… 9“And I say to you, MAKE FRIENDS FOR YOURSELVES by UNRIGHTEOUS [D]MAMMON, that when [e]you fail, they may receive you into an EVERLASTING HOME [4633 [e] skēnas/Dwelling/Tabernacle]. 10He who is FAITHFUL in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. 11Therefore IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN FAITHFUL IN THE UNRIGHTEOUS MAMMON, WHO WILL COMMIT TO YOUR TRUST THE TRUE RICHES? 12And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own? 13“No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. YOU CANNOT SERVE GOD AND MAMMON.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:9 – 13, NKJV)
“… but those even who are not barren abstain from sexual intercourse, some being virgins from the first, and others from a certain time. And we see men also keeping themselves virgins, some from the first, and some from a certain time; so that by their means, marriage, made lawless through lust, is destroyed. …” – Blessed St. Justin of Rome or St. Justin Martyr, CHILIASM Church Father, a Great Early Christian Apologist who is a Foremost Exponent of the Divine Word, who Influenced Virtually all of subsequent Christian philosophy and Catholic theology, Martyr for Christ, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church (c. 100AD – c. 160 AD, On the Resurrection, Chapter 3)
Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0131.htm
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Founders in Christianity – Which is the oldest writing that lists out the earliest Church Leaders leading directly to the Blessed Apostles of Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ? Guess who? None other than Blessed St. Irenaeus of Lyons who is a CHILIASM CHURCH FATHER by PROPHECY position as I have extensively discussed POSSIBILITIES in the #CHILIASM Book to SHOW EVIDENCE. Can you quote him to show how well your “prophecy beliefs” match his quotes? Only GOD KNOWS who is quoting him accurately but as long as we speak with EVIDENCE, it’s SAFE even if WRONG because that’s the ONLY EARLIEST EVIDENCE we have. Even the Roman Catholics do NOT have a quote earlier than him, example:
“… St. Irenaeus, writing between 175 and 190, not many years after his Roman sojourn, enumerates the series from Peter to Eleutherius (Against Heresies III.3.3; Eusebius, Church History V.6). His object, as we have already seen, was to establish the orthodoxy of the traditional doctrine, as opposed to heretical novelties, by showing that the bishop was the natural inheritor of the Apostolic teaching. He gives us the names alone, not the length of the various episcopates. This need is supplied by other witnesses. …” (Chronological Lists of Popes) Source: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272a.htm
Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church, First Doctor of the Church in order of time, Father of Catholic Theology, CHILIASM Church Father (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, all quotes from this book ‘Against Heresies’)
Sample quotes are in images.
If Roman Catholic Church today with biggest continued evangelism in numbers can be in error in some parts of doctrine when compared to St. Irenaeus any other Protestant Christianity can likewise be wrong too so better to guard one’s tongue and consider evidences to be safe.
(All quotes from this book ‘Against Heresies’) Remember even Jews were WRONG by CHRIST’s TIME though they were PRIESTS, PRESERVED SCRIPTURE etc. Peace to you
Founders in Christianity – FIRST HOSPITAL for ALL and FREE in HUMAN HISTORY by God’s Grace in St. Basil the Great , the Third Great Greek Doctor of the Church may NOT have believed in CHILIASM but that’s understandable since NOT all writings are available and he is MUCH LATER than say St. Irenaeus of Lyons, St. Justin Martyr or even Tertullian but his CHARITY DOCTRINE impact changed the WORLD! Also strangely he has some POSSIBLE NON ELECT SALVATION quotes as I have shown in Powerpoint and free pdf books such as in [From Pages 121, 240, 394 and 395 onward of the #ChiliasmBook]
Please compare against those who build HOSPITALS ONLY for OWN RACE/RELIGION/RICH in HISTORY or even to MAKE MONEY as BUSINESS in MODERN HISTORY and NOT for FREE or discriminate you while using MOSTLY CHRISTIAN DISCOVERED MODERN MEDICINES .
Basil of Caesarea Develops the Hospital
Although there were forms of hospitals in Greece and Rome before Christ, they were only for the wealthy. Basil of Caesarea founded what historians consider the first hospital. In 369 AD Basil built and ran a 300-bed hospital in Caesarea. Gregory of Nazianzus, one of the Cappadocian Fathers along with Basil, called it one of the great wonders of the world. It was the first large-scale hospital. Patients were cared for–doctors and nurses treated patients, and diseases were studied at the facility. The “Hektoen International: A Journal of Medical Humanities” states that a hospital must three components to be considered a hospital: inpatient facilities, professional medical caregivers, and care given for free. Basil’s Basilias was the first to have all three components.
After Basil died in 379 AD, hospitals started sprouting up all over the Roman Empire. Within a hundred years, hospitals were a normal part of the Greco-Roman world.
“I have learned from Jesus Christ Himself what charity is, and how we ought to practice it; for He says: ‘By this shall all men know that ye are My disciples, if ye love one another.’ Never can I, therefore, please myself in the hope that I may obtain the name of a servant of Christ if I possess not a true and unfeigned charity within me.” (~Basil)
Who was he? Blessed St. Basil the Great, the Third Great Greek Doctor of the Church was the bishop of Caesarea Mazaca in Cappadocia, Asia Minor (modern-day Turkey). He was an influential theologian who supported the Nicene Creed and opposed the heresies of the early Christian church, fighting against both Arianism and the followers of Apollinaris of Laodicea. In addition to his work as a theologian, Basil was known for his care of the poor and underprivileged. Basil established guidelines for monastic life which focus on community life, liturgical prayer, and manual labor. Together with Pachomius, he is remembered as a father of communal monasticism in Eastern Christianity, Titles: one of the Three Holy Hierarchs / Great Hierarch, Doctor of the Church, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church (c. 329 AD – c. 379 AD).
Founders MINISTRY in Christianity
[From Page 500 onward of the #ChiliasmBook]
This same TERTULLIAN wrote that 1 Corinthians 15:52’s CHANGE in TWINKLING of an EYE PROPHECY refers to this CHILIASM Prophecy in his own words here and NOT about a ‘secret coming of Christ’ – HOW COME? More quotes in those pages (the other quote here is about “Apostolic Succession”)
“… Chapter 25. … Of the heavenly kingdom this is the process. After its thousand years are over, within which period is completed the resurrection of the saints, who rise sooner or later according to their deserts there will ensue the destruction of the world and the conflagration of all things at the judgment: we shall then be changed in a moment into the substance of angels, even by the investiture of an incorruptible nature, and so be removed to that kingdom in heaven … when Abraham’s seed, after the primal promise of being like the sand of the sea for multitude, is destined likewise to an equality with the stars of heaven — are not these the indications both of an earthly and a heavenly dispensation? …” – Blessed Tertullian, Father of Latin Christianity, Founder of Western Theological Scholarship, CHILIASM CHURCH FATHER (c. 155 AD – c. 240 AD, Against Marcion, Book III, Chapter 25-partial) Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/03123.htm
A Thought to ponder: When St. Irenaeus of Lyons wrote this, he was talking about the CHILIASM Church he wrote so much about and NOT any modern Church including the current Roman Catholic type, can you really SEE it?
Founders in Christianity – a note about “Who is HARDWORKING in LIFE”?
St. Basil the Great (First Founder of free hospitals for the common man in all of human history) gave an interesting comment regarding “Christians being hardworking in spiritual matters such as Prayer, Church Attendance etc. as long as it does NOT cost ANY MONEY” (Please see slides 286 to 288 for FINANCIAL SIN and GOD’s WILL in 290 Slides Powerpoint earlier).
St. Basil the Great (like other “Church Fathers” & even “Doctors of the Church” did NOT live in luxury NOR take any BIG SALARY) but yet were HARD WORKING on doing SHARING EARTHLY and SPIRITUAL GOODS for FREE to the PUBLIC.
In other words, compare with an average money-lover who claims to be hardworking but he is so because he may be earning BIG SALARY for EVERY HOUR he is HARDWORKING for, so will he spend the SAME TIME to do it for FREE or to GIVE it to CHARITY (even at end of life via a will)? Only then someone (pastor/priest or laity) can be said to be hardworking (i.e. when GIVING for FREE as CHRIST Taught in Matthew 10:8).
In short, it is NOT a PERFECT GOOD WORK until it is for FREE or that MONEY EARNED via SECULAR WORK is GIVEN/PLEDGED via a WILL to POOR/CHARITY at end of life which is TRUE HARDWORKING as these Church Fathers have demonstrated by GOD’s GRACE.
In comparison, the average secular rich man uses the poor to work for them with lower wages benefitting from nepotism to racism to luck to contacts etc. while they earn big money via ADMIN JOB of MANAGEMENT ONLY and the MONEY is for THEM and THEIR FAMILY (not CHARITY nor POOR or even NEIGHBOURS to ENEMIES as CHRIST Commanded in Matthew 5:43 – 48 or only SMALL TIT-BITS in PERCENTAGE or RELATIVE MEASURE given, as GOD COUNTS as HE SAID in Luke 21:1 – 3 so don’t be deceived by mere selfish humans who teach against these Bible Verses even), right?
St. Basil’s quote agrees with Prophet Isaiah 58:3, 7 – 9 or New Testament’s 2 Corinthians 9:9 – 13 as I have shown in [From Page 115 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook].
Reward is in heaven and not earth as even the POOR WIDOW with remarkable LOVE which exhibited in ACTION as GIVING all her LIVELIHOOD in Luke 21:1 – 3 as CHRIST SAID did NOT become MILLIONAIRE on earth.
Founders in Christianity – a note about “Who is HARDWORKING in LIFE”? Slide 7 in Founders PPT (Part 2 of 2)
[From Page 115 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook]
Becoming RICH is NOT Proof that GOD has NOTICED FASTING as CHRIST showed in Luke 21:1 – 3 that HE notices WHO GIVES more in LOVE. Small love, small giving and Reward in Heaven and NOT on EARTH.
A Thought to Ponder: In other words, compare with an average money-lover who claims to be hardworking but he is so because he may be earning BIG SALARY for EVERY HOUR he is HARDWORKING for, so will he spend the SAME TIME to do it for FREE or to GIVE it to CHARITY (even at end of life via a will)? Only then someone (pastor/priest or laity/common man) can be said to be hardworking (i.e. when GIVING for FREE as CHRIST Taught in Matthew 10:8).
In short, it is NOT a PERFECT GOOD WORK until it is for FREE or that MONEY EARNED via SECULAR WORK is GIVEN/PLEDGED via a WILL to POOR/CHARITY at end of life which is TRUE HARDWORKING as these Church Fathers have demonstrated by GOD’s GRACE. ” (Please see slides 286 to 288 for FINANCIAL SIN and GOD’s WILL in 290 Slides Powerpoint earlier).
It’s not Perfect until it’s FREE.
“… ‘Why have WE FASTED,’ they say, ‘and YOU HAVE NOT SEEN? Why have WE AFFLICTED OUR SOULS, and YOU TAKE NO NOTICE?’ …” (Isaiah 58:3, NKJV)
Part of the Answer (God’s Reply):
“… 7Is it not to SHARE YOUR BREAD with the HUNGRY,
And that you bring to your house THE POOR who are cast out;
When you see THE NAKED, that you cover him,
And not hide yourself from YOUR OWN FLESH?
8Then YOUR LIGHT shall break forth like the MORNING,
YOUR HEALING shall spring forth speedily,
And your righteousness shall go before you;
The glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard.
9Then you shall call, and the Lord will answer;
You shall cry, and He will say, ‘Here I am.’ …” (Isaiah 58:7 – 9, NKJV)
“… 9As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad,He has GIVEN TO THE POOR; His RIGHTEOUSNESS endures FOREVER.” 10Now [g]may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, [h]supply and multiply the seed you have sown and INCREASE THE FRUITS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, 11while you are enriched in everything for ALL LIBERALITY, which causes THANKSGIVING THROUGH US TO GOD. 12For the ADMINISTRATION OF THIS SERVICE not only SUPPLIES THE NEEDS OF THE SAINTS, but also is ABOUNDING THROUGH MANY THANKSGIVINGS TO GOD, 13while, through the PROOF OF THIS MINISTRY, THEY GLORIFY GOD for the OBEDIENCE OF YOUR CONFESSION to the GOSPEL OF CHRIST, and for YOUR LIBERAL SHARING WITH THEM and ALL MEN, …” (2 Corinthians 9:9 – 13, NKJV)
“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there YOUR HEART WILL BE ALSO. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)
“… [ 39Then the Lord said to him, ] “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)
“… I have shown you in every way, by laboring like this, that you must support the weak. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, ‘It is MORE BLESSED to GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE.’ ” …” (Acts 20:35, NKJV)
“… 10In this the CHILDREN OF GOD and THE CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL are manifest: Whoever DOES NOT PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS is not of God, NOR IS HE WHO DOES NOT LOVE HIS BROTHER. 11For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another, 12not as Cain who was of the wicked one and murdered his brother. And why did he murder him? BECAUSE HIS WORKS WERE EVIL AND HIS BROTHER’S RIGHTEOUS. … 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3: 10 – 12, 16 – 18, NKJV)
“… 8If you really FULFILL the ROYAL LAW according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; … For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. 14What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [f]your works, and I will show you my faith by [g]my works. …” (James 2:8, 13 – 18, NKJV)
“… 32“But IF YOU LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:32, NKJV)
“… WHAT DO YOU DO MORE THAN OTHERS? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:47, NKJV)
“… 33And IF YOU DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO DO GOOD TO YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:33, NKJV)
Founders MINISTRY in Christianity – St. Athanasius and the Didache
– I saw this conventional Protestant Reformation page also quoting the Didache Prophecy about the Antichrist.
Interestingly, “the Didache” is approved by “Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, First Great Greek Doctor of the Church and Champion of Trinity as SAME LEVEL of “Shepherd of Hermas” or “Book of Esther which today is in all Bibles” as I have shown say in [From Page 682 onward of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook].
The Didache seems to teach these too (will the Protestant page agree or at least consider as possibility to be honest?):
1) Some type of NON-ELECT SALVATION for those WHO did FINANCIAL SINS of taking MONEY beyond NEED? [From Page 391 onward of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook] and the one who GIVES even to WRONG PERSON or SCAMMED is GUILTLESS (meaning his reward is secure and NO sin on his part for being cheated)
2) NO Secret Pre-Trib Rapture but only ONE PUBLIC SECOND COMING of CHRIST followed by CHILIASM PROPHECY of FIRST RESURRECTION of SOME and NOT ALL [From Page 528 onward of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook]
3) Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Specifically “Almsgiving/Alms” or “Money to help others Financially” to be forgiven or as “RANSOM” for “JUDGMENT of SINS” [From Page 533 onward of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook] same way we keep HOLY which is NOT counted as ‘Salvation by Works either’ (same principle in Financial Holiness) & NO Prayers to Virgin Mary found in it etc. (discovered late so well preserved)
Founders MINISTRY in Christianity – St. Athanasius the Great approved the Didache for Usage – Part 2 of 2
1) Some type of NON-ELECT SALVATION for those WHO did FINANCIAL SINS of taking MONEY beyond NEED? [From Page 391 onward of the #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook] and the one who GIVES even to WRONG PERSON or SCAMMED is GUILTLESS (meaning his reward is secure and NO sin on his part for being cheated)
Here’s that “Didache” Warning of taking money “beyond needs” (applies not just to Church money but any money too):
“… Happy is he who gives according to the commandment, for he is guiltless. WOE to HIM WHO RECEIVES; for if one receives who has need, he is guiltless; but he who RECEIVES NOT having NEED shall PAY the PENALTY, why he received and for what. And coming into CONFINEMENT, he shall be EXAMINED concerning the THINGS which he HAS DONE, and he shall NOT ESCAPE from THERE until he PAYS back the LAST PENNY. And also concerning this, it has been said, Let YOUR ALMS sweat in your hands, until you know to whom you should give…” – The Didache, The Lord’s Teaching Through the Twelve Apostles to the Nations. (1st Century, Chapter 1. The Two Ways and the First Commandment),
Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/didache-roberts.html
Comment: Is this what CHRIST Meant in these Bible Verses? (we consider it as a POSSIBILITY in light of all this EVIDENCE as you can see, difficult to decide, right?)
[From Page 1800 or 2387 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook];
Compare: The “Prison” till the “Last Penny” seem to refer to the “Gehenna” (Final Hell or Lake of Fire Context) because Christ was talking about that Topic in Verses below:
“… 22 But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in DANGER of HELL [Gehenna] fire. 23Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into PRISON. 26Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till YOU HAVE PAID THE LAST PENNY. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:22 – 26, NKJV)
In yet another time CHRIST uses that same phrase “Till the Last Penny” to refer to the “unforgiveness attitude some have” which could mean ‘Lake of Fire or Hades Context’ too:
“… 32Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ 34And his master was angry, and DELIVERED HIM TO THE TORTURERS UNTIL HE SHOULD PAY ALL THAT WAS DUE TO HIM. 35“So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother [g]his trespasses. …” – Most Blessed Judge & KING of kings, Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 18:32 – 35, NKJV)
This is Founders Slide 10. Lake of Fire or Hades or both or Neither?
Founders MINISTRY in Christianity – St. Athanasius the Great approved the Didache for Usage which uses the SAME BIBLICAL Phrase “Till the last Penny” as we saw in Founders Slide 9 earlier –
Here’s the Dilemma: Can the word “PRISON” refer to LAKE of FIRE Context or HADES Context?
The Roman Catholics use Matthew 5:25 – 26 or Matthew 18:34 to refer to HADES Context & link it to PURGATORY (quoting even 1 Peter 3:18 – 19’s “PRISON” word but this refers to “unbelievers context who rejected Noah’s preaching on earth” so POSSIBLE Non-Elect Salvation likewise for “some who believe there in Spirit World too” as word “FORMERLY DISOBEDIENT” meaning not disobedient anymore repented in Spirit World means?).
Another POSSIBILITY is that Isaiah 24:21 – 22 uses the word “PRISON” in “Lake of FIRE Context” since it’s AFTER CHRIST RETURNS and Original Word as KJV translates too is VISITED and NOT Punished AFTER MANY DAYS (as shown in Slide 264 which even NIV translation adds a footnote that ORIGINAL WORD can mean “RELEASED” – Check with your Bible Professor if I’m lying or not).
POSSIBILITIES are there with EVIDENCE even SOLA SCRIPTURA like this but which is right let GOD DECIDE as I present the EVIDENCE HONESTLY and GUARD my tongue likewise. This is Founders Slide 10.
[From Page 1800 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook] CHRIST (not me) Says some of those in AFTERLIFE-PRISON can be RELEASED after JUDGMENT or not here?
“… 22 But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in DANGER of HELL [Gehenna] fire. 23Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into PRISON. 26Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till YOU HAVE PAID THE LAST PENNY. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:22 – 26, NKJV)
“… 32Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ 34And his master was angry, and DELIVERED HIM TO THE TORTURERS UNTIL HE SHOULD PAY ALL THAT WAS DUE TO HIM. 35“So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother [g]his trespasses. …” – Most Blessed Judge & KING of kings, Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 18:32 – 35, NKJV)
Please notice the WORD PRISON carefully in each of these BIBLE VERSES only (Sola Scriptura even) to see this POSSIBILITY of NON-ELECT SALVATION for some? I don’t know for sure but this is the EVIDENCE.
“… 18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring [f]us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19by whom also He went and preached to the SPIRITS in PRISON, 20who FORMERLY were DISOBEDIENT, [g]when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. …” (1 Peter 3:18 – 20, NKJV)
“… 21And it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. 22And they shall be gathered together, AS PRISONERS ARE GATHERED IN THE PIT, and shall be SHUT UP IN THE PRISON, and AFTER MANY DAYS shall they be VISITED. ...” (Isaiah 24:21 – 22, KJV)
Slide 11 in Founders Powerpoint – What does Most Blessed LORD JESUS CHRIST mean when He Said “BORN AGAIN”? (John 3:3, 5)
Many weird modern definitions exist but the earliest one I know which matches best what CHRIST SAID directly for “ETERNAL LIFE CONTEXT” (Matthew 19:16 – 30) is by St. Justin of Rome.
In short, CHRIST’s Teaching for ETERNAL LIFE is HOLINESS + CHARITY DOCTRINE in BIBLE Verses here so we PREACH BOTH (Slide 286 in 290 slides Powerpoint while this is Slide 11 in Founders Powerpoint). Other rules affect reward only.
[From Page 85 onward of the #LastBook]
“…16…“Good[d] Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?” 17 … But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” [18He said to Him, “Which ones?”] Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ” 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I STILL LACK?” [21JESUS said to him], “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS. 23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. … 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” – The GREATEST ONE, The ONLY KING, GOD in FLESH, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:16, 17, 21 – 24, 30 NKJV)
[From Page 520 onward of the #ChiliasmBook]
“…For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Saviour Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water. For Christ also said, Unless you be born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. John 3:5 Now, that it is impossible for those who have once been born to enter into their mothers’ wombs, is manifest to all. And how those who have sinned and repent shall escape their sins, is declared by Esaias the prophet, as I wrote above; he thus speaks: Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from your souls; learn to do well; judge the fatherless, and plead for the widow: and come and let us reason together, says the Lord. And though your sins be as scarlet, I will make them white like wool; and though they be as crimson, I will make them white as snow. But if you refuse and rebel, the sword shall devour you: for the mouth of the Lord has spoken it. Isaiah 1:16-20. And for this [rite] we have learned from the apostles this reason. …” – Blessed St. Justin of Rome or St. Justin Martyr, PRIEST, CHILIASM CHURCH FATHER, MARTYR for CHRIST,, a Great Early Christian Apologist who is a Foremost Exponent of the Divine Word, who Influenced Virtually all of subsequent Christian philosophy and Catholic theology, Martyr for Christ, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church (c. 100AD – c. 160 AD, The First Apology, Chapter 61, Christian Baptism )
Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0126.htm
Charity Doctrine is called as HIGHER MINISTRY of PERFECTION (“Labour of Love” & “Ministering to Saints” NOT Work meaning sharing earthly and spiritual goods for FREE) compared to ELEMENTARY (LOWER MINISTRY) of “Preaching of Repentance, Faith, Baptism, Laying Hands (Praying) & Judgment” implying higher reward only when BOTH DONE so we must compare if the Bible compares these below, right? Hebrews 6:1 – 3, 9 – 12.
[From Page 8 onward of the #ChiliasmBook]
“… 1Therefore, LEAVING THE DISCUSSION OF THE ELEMENTARY PRINCIPLES OF CHRIST, let us GO ON TO [a]PERFECTION, NOT laying again the FOUNDATION of REPENTANCE FROM DEAD WORKS and OF FAITH TOWARD GOD, 2of the DOCTRINE OF BAPTISMS, of LAYING OF HANDS, of RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, and of ETERNAL JUDGMENT. 3And THIS [b]we will do IF GOD PERMITS. … 9But, beloved, we are confident of BETTER THINGS CONCERNING YOU, YES, THINGS THAT ACCOMPANY SALVATION, though we speak in this manner. 10For God is not unjust to forget YOUR WORK and [d]LABOR OF LOVE which you have shown toward His name, IN THAT YOU HAVE MNISTERED TO THE SAINTS, and DO MINISTER. 11And WE DESIRE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU SHOW THE SAME DILLIGENCE TO THE FULL ASSURANCE OF HOPE UNTIL THE END, 12that you do not become [e]sluggish, but imitate those who through faith and patience INHERIT the promises. …” (Hebrews 6:1 – 3, 9 – 12, NKJV)
SLIDE 12 in Founders Powerpoint. A thought to Ponder: Just Bible Verses with no comments etc. still means same, right? May God Help us do it by His Grace. What is Biblical Perfection?
God looks for ABILITY (Knowledge accuracy) & LOVE (Charity Doctrine) above AVAILABILITY (or “Zeal for God”) which is NOT accurate (Romans 10:2).
Remember relative measure as Poor Widow gave more (Luke 21:1 – 3) and CHRIST did NOT even NOTICE the RICH’s GIVING which was MORE in AMOUNT so same true for ANY MINISTRY too because “more given” (example, ministry jobs with salary, tithes + love offerings, more converts with money-support) “more will be required” as CHRIST Warned in Luke 12:48. NOT knowing does NOT exempt a CHRISTIAN but rather only gives “SALVATION AFTER BEATING TYPE for those SERVANTS even if saved”.
Founders MINISTRY in Christianity (Slide 13) – Sola Scriptura on Finance Rules – Do you know that the Bible reveals the Financial Sign of an Apostle? Based on these Verses are they really apostles?
Apostles are not only about “Signs and Wonders” (talking about ‘real miracles’, different topic) but also in FINANCE SIGN it’s clearly & repeatedly WRITTEN here that they DO NOT LIVE in PROSPERITY from CHURCH MONEY, TITHES NOR LOVE OFFERINGS where even to take THEIR NEED they will PREFER NOT TO and WORK as Apostle St. Paul demonstrated and even will teach to USE CHURCH MONEY to be SAVED to be SPENT for CHURCH MEMBERS for their NEEDS (as “parents save up for children” analogy used here) – so how many Churches’ money is used for CHURCH MEMEBERS’ NEEDS and NOT for Pastors only etc.?
Note that Apostle is the highest spiritual position and the second is prophets, third teachers and only after that miracles (lower) as written in 1 Corinthians 12:28 or Ephesians 4:11. How can a Church boast to be a Church of Christ unless it exhibits this financial aspect as well to be REAL?
“… 11I have become a fool [c]in boasting; you have compelled me. For I ought to have been commended by you; for in nothing was I behind the most eminent apostles, though I am nothing. 12Truly the signs of an apostle were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds. 13For what is it in which you were inferior to other churches, except that I myself was not burdensome to you? Forgive me this wrong! 14Now for the third time I am ready to come to you. And I will not be burdensome to you; for I do not seek yours, but you. For the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. 15And I will very gladly spend and be spent for your souls; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I am loved.16But be that as it may, I did not burden you. Nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you by cunning! 17Did I take advantage of you by any of those whom I sent to you? …” (2 Corinthians 12:11 – 16, NKJV)
“…And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. …” (1 Corinthians 12:28, NKJV)
Note: Apostles & Prophets can have ZERO PROPHECY ERROR. Compare for example with CHILIASM Prophecy in Slide 4 in Founders PPT earlier.
“…And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, …” (Ephesians 4:11, NKJV)
2) We can save up money if intention is “not self prosperity” but to give it to “others/charity/needy” (not the rich or those who have) at end of life is in principle of this Bible Verse as a True “Spiritual Parent” (or “Father of the Church” or Priest/Pastor etc.) should do as Blessed Apostle St. Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 12:14 in Principle.
Notice the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God inspired to Reveal that even APOSTLES (highest Spiritual Position) living on Church Money is WRONG for NEEDS (in 2 Corinthians 12:13) but ‘modern so called apostles’ not just take needs BUT PROSPERITY too! (when those willing to live like that apply to Christian Charity or Ministries they do NOT hire but HIRE PROSPERITY PASTORS etc. – see the IRONY based on NON-MERIT HIRING on this FINANCIAL BIBLICAL RULES here? Dangerous):
“… 12Truly the SIGNS of AN APOSTLE were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds. 13For what is it in which you were inferior to other churches, except that I MYSELF WAS NOT BURDENSOME to YOU? FORGIVE ME THIS WRONG! … And I WILL NOT BE BURDENSOME to YOU; FOR I DO NOT SEEK YOURS, but you. For the CHILDREN OUGHT NOT TO LAY UP FOR THE PARENTS, but PARENTS FOR THE CHILDREN.. 15And I WILL VERY GLADLY SPEND and be SPENT FOR YOUR SOULS; …”(2 Corinthians 12:11 – 16,NKJV)
The ”lower spiritual positions” (non apostles and non-prophets etc.) perhaps can “live from the Gospel” (meaning NEEDS NOT PROSPERITY) such as “Pastors or Teachers or Priests or Evangelists or anyone who preach the gospel” as other Verses point such as 1 Corinthians 9:14 – 15 says:
“…14Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel. 15But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; for it would be better for me to die than that anyone should make my boasting void. …” (1 Corinthians 9:14 – 15, NKJV) This is NOT Pride but a BIBLE VERSE!
Slide 14 in Founders MINISTRY in Christianity – Sola Scriptura on Finance Rules which did NOT just apply on “Apostles” but also for ANYONE WHO PREACHES the GOSPEL to GAIN GREATER HEAVENLY REWARD (No special cases of “living in prosperity beyond needs especially with Church Money” written in 1 Corinthians 9:14 – 18).
This is important because if we do NOT go by BIBLE RULES there is NO CROWNING (2 Timothy 2:5) if ZEAL for GOD is without ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE (Romans 10:2) and LOVE defined here as USING CHURCH MONEY NOT for APOSTLES’ PROSPERITY even but also for OTHER CHURCH MEMBERS’ NEEDS including APOSTLE ST. PAUL WORKING SECULAR JOB NOT full time ministry as LEADERSHIP by EXAMPLE in FINANCE to PROVIDE for ONESELF and OTHERS (Truly humility is giving more & not receiving more finance) as one of the PROPHECY he gave in FINANCE ASPECT is that FALSE PROPHETS [Wolves] CANNOT LIVE this WAY (in Acts 20:29 – 36).
For those who say “Preaching Gospel is nothing to do with CHARITY DOCTRINE” remember this APOSTOLIC COMMAND agreed by ALL APOSTLES (and not selected few or for some Christians only to follow) in Galatians 2:9 – 10.
Where are the NON-EXISTENT LIVE in PROSPERITY with CHURCH MONEY BIBLE VERSES? I mean some PASTORS live like that WITHOUT even ONE NEW TESTAMENT BIBLE VERSE allowing it, can you SEE it?
If Bible WRITES these RULES, we FOLLOW, right? OBEDIENCE is BETTER than ANY SACRIFICE (1 Samuel 15:22) and ONLY CHURCH LEADERS who FOLLOW NEW TESTAMENT RULES, COMMANDS & TRADITIONS stand a CHANCE to be DOUBLE HONOURED as it’s specifically WRITTEN as FOCUS on “WORD or DOCTRINE” accuracy in “PREACHING & TEACHING” (Did you know? In 1 Timothy 5:17).
Let God Decide those who did it more accurately.
We CANNOT be jealous of others if we ourselves CANNOT use that same Church Money if given to us for “prosperity”, right?
Also some think that those PASTORS deserve PROSPERITY for PREACHING GOSPEL to them but BIBLE VERSE in 1 CORINTHIANS 9:16 SAYS PREACHING the GOSPEL is NOTHING to BOAST ABOUT unless BOASTING is ABOUT doing it FOR FREE in 1 CORINTHIANS 9:14, 15 and ONLY this TYPE is ELIGIBLE for GREAT REWARD when DONE for FREE (like St. Paul worked SECULAR JOB even) as 1 CORINTHIANS 9:18 REVEALS.
Please read each Verse Quoted carefully to see if I’m LYING or if YOU ARE LYING. Should be obvious and if BIBLE WRITES it, we OBEY as it is WRITTEN. We have LAWS.
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“Christian Founders Ministry Powerpoint” which will be updated with info from time to time (beginning 9 May 2024 onward):
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“More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ,” – Apostle Paul to the Ekklesia (called out ones) in Philippi (Philippians 3:8)
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The Article above is from Kajang High School – Jonathan Ramachandran represented Malaysia for IMO (International Math Olympiad 2002) for Malaysia
