Deep Secrets – How do we understand Diseases and Evil in this World?
“but let him who boasts boast of this, that he understands and knows Me, that I am the LORD who exercises lovingkindness, justice and righteousness on earth; for I delight in these things,” declares the LORD.” (Jeremiah 9:24)
Proof verses for the existence of CHOICE in creation’s will?
1 Corinthians 10:13 –> God “allows” evil to exist and be carried out by Creation’s OWN CHOICE (Deuteronomy 30:15, Deuteronomy 30:19, Deuteronomy 11:26, Luke 12:57, Psalm 82:2, Luke 4:6)
(i) God stopped Creating DIRECTLY after the Fall
Example:
God Creates Evil INDIRECTLY “before” the Fall itself in the Tree of knowledge of Good & Evil. He is Faithful not to allow the temptation beyond What Adam & Eve could bear by warning FIRST to them to NOT eat of the fruit agreeing with the Perfect Principles regarding this in 1 Corinthians 10:13, revealed later.
God ALLOWED CHOICE “before” the Fall itself as Adam & Eve decided to listen to the Devil instead (just like the Devil “lied” from his OWN resources from the beginning itself, John 8:44) and God does NOT secretly influence or wire ANY EVIL in ANY WAY into Creation’s “decision in its OWN Choice” as “it is written” in James 1:13.
Please don’t be “deceived” by thinking contrary to these Perfect Principles of how Good (James 1:17), Evil (James 1:13, 1 Corinthians 10:13) & Sin (James 1:14 – 15) is done as apostle James himself personally ‘warned’ in James 1:16.
Thus, God “Allows” Evil to exist or be done by Creation.
(ii) A Sensible Analogy
God allowed the materials for the creation of the knife.
Now, human beings aided by forces Unknown to them (probably the “gods”, Psalm 82:1 or through the knowledge available by God Himself) —-> created the knife on earth (God did not create the knife directly but INDIRECTLY only in the sense that He “allowed” the knowledge of ‘how to do it’ and ‘materials needed for it’ to ‘exist’) —-> Next, God “allowed” the knowledge of “evil” which Man CHOSE WILLINGLY to know though God WARNED against it —> then, Man combines these elements together with the influence of the “gods” (2 Corinthians 4:4, Psalm 82:2, Ephesians 6:12) to commit the evil of murder.
God will JUDGE both man & these “gods” who influenced that evil done accordingly just like He did it the Fall of Man too (Ecclesiastes 3:17, Jude 1:15, Psalm 82:6 – 8, 2 Thessalonians 1:8 – 9) on the Dreadful Day of the LORD (Amos 5:18, Zephaniah 1:14, Joel 1:15).
(iii) How about the Foreknowledge of God? Why didn’t He stop the evil Choice by Creation eliminating evil completely?
If the ability to decide a CHOICE didn’t exist, we would be “wired” or “programmed” to carry out decisions under certain responses only such as the ‘animals’.
Without CHOICE, we could also be just robots.
God created us in His Image with the ABILITY to CHOOSE because He has that ABILITY to CHOOSE too. God doesn’t DO Evil though He has the knowledge of Evil (His Perfect Way).
God didn’t even burden Man to know evil in His Direct Creation itself since the knowledge of evil was outside & man CHOSE to know evil “DESPITE” God warned them (Adam & Eve) not to eat of it (control measure was also given).
But God still knew that they would CHOOSE to break His Command. He “ALLOWED” it agreeing with 1 Corinthians 10:13 in His Perfect Principles discussed earlier too.
God did NOT stop evil using His Foreknowledge simply because then He would have created robots with NO CHOICE to CHOOSE between Good and Evil. Better that way. you say? Then perhaps on Judgment Day He Will let you make that CHOICE for yourself to ALLOW Him to make you into an “animal” or equivalent in His Kingdom as ‘your OWN words prefer it’, right? But for now, He lets you live alongside creation WITH CHOICE first.
The God secretly wired or programmed us theory doesn’t agree with plenty of Scripture such as Job 1:22 (because it puts some blame on God for evil) and even against James 1:13 primarily (simply because it puts some responsibility or influence on God with regards to evil, which is NOT true).
God is the Genius Who is Able and has CREATED Evil INDIRECTLY in that Way (Isaiah 45:7) understood with other related Scriptures quoted together as we did.
(iv) Why didn’t God allow any Providence for evil to be stopped instantly in some way?
He did actually though this hidden fact is rarely understood or known.
This role is given to the “gods” as Psalm 82 describes especially in verses 3 & 4 where they are given the authority to instantly act or defend the poor & needy & the oppressed & the weak but they CHOOSE not to do so.
Why?
They aren’t created as robots either but with choice just like our earthly rulers (in analogy) who decide to do good sometimes & evil at other times.
However, these spiritual wickedness (“the gods”, Psalm 82, 1 Corinthians 8:5) in the heavens have CHOSEN to do EVIL instead (much details not revealed in Scripture, 1 Chronicles 21:1, Ephesians 6:12, 2 Corinthians 4:4, Mark 3:26, Matthew 12:26, Luke 11:20, 1 Corinthians 2:8, Colossians 2:15).
The Bible even teaches how to keep oneself safe from these “evil ones” agreeing to 1 Corinthians 10:13 that God is Faithful to provide an “escape” from these “evil ones” too in (Ephesians 6:11, Ephesians 6:13 – 17, John 16:7, John 16:12 – 15).
(v) But isn’t it written that God did evil in Amos 3:6?
The “Evil” spoken of in Amos 3:6 and equivalent verses like that is “Judgment”. The other phrases found in this verse such as the “trumpet sound” and “people being afraid” reveal it to be the Judgment part.
This “Judgment part” is “evil” because the “same” evil these judged ones did to others is rendered back to them accordingly in such cases agreeing with the Perfect Principle of Isaiah 3:11 (Afterlife Judgment is based on similar “equal” to the “evil” done Principle too: Matthew 18:35, Luke 12:47 – 48, Matthew 18:34, Matthew 5:26).
These Judgment cases are not referring to evil done by Creation’s OWN will through its OWN Choice as discussed earlier too (John 7:7, John 16:8 – 11).
Judgment is a different case and some Judgment God “allows” such “equal” evil back to them who did that FIRST (1 Samuel 15:2, Psalm 137:8) on earth itself (John 12:31, Jeremiah 51:1, Jeremiah 15:3, Jeremiah 22:7, 1 Samuel 16:14, 1 Samuel 18:10, Exodus 12:29, Exodus 12:23)
So, whenever Scripture mentions God “doing evil” it refers to this Judgment case and has nothing to do say in a ‘rape case’ done under another creation’s OWN Choice. God controls the damage done too accordingly and sometimes showing Mercy as He Wills (His Choice, 2 Samuel 24:16, James 2:13, John 5:24, Romans 9:15).
Only God decides whether to Judge some on earth itself or others later as He Wills. He will Reveal how He decides this one day (Luke 8:17, 1 Corinthians 4:5)
(vi) How about all things being created by God (e.g. Colossians 1:16)?
God created them Perfect (Genesis 1) and “Good” (Genesis 1:31). This is God Creating DIRECTLY where ALL that He Created DIRECTLY is Good ONLY (agreeing to James 1:17 too).
(vii) How about the all things part which are evil?
Just like in the case of Adam & Eve, creation by its OWN will and Evil influence toward each other Fell and missed the Perfection of God in some way (Romans 3:19) due to sin leading to death & the sin not leading to death (1 John 5:16 – 17) as well as ‘good within creation’s power but it did NOT do it by its OWN will/choice’ (James 4:17).
God Judges ‘all’ perfectly according to the measure given to each (Romans 3:23, Luke 12:47 – 48, Luke 16:10).
That is, God didn’t Create them evil but with a CHOICE as discussed prior too in this complex Web of creation’s will affecting each other.
God Works out the “Mystery or Secret” of “His Will” (His Actions of Good ONLY, no evil) “despite” creation’s evil to do good toward these “all things” as well (Ephesians 1:8 – 11, 1 Corinthians 15:25 – 28, Acts 3:21, Revelation 21:5, Colossians 1:20, 2 Corinthians 5:19, 2 Samuel 14:14) and that’s how we clearly see that God Alone is Good (Mark 10:18).
That’s how God’s Will prevails to achieve Good ONLY in the end over any man’s will (Proverbs 19:21) or creation’s will (Romans 8:20 – 21) “despite” the evil done by our OWN will in “vanity” (Ecclesiastes 3:1 – 10, Romans 8:20, Ecclesiastes 1:2, Ecclesiastes 1:14) Where only God is “not” included (excepted) from this vanity part through “His Will” (Good ONLY) done by Himself or through some creation at times (1 Corinthians 15:27).
(viii) How to Understand Predestination by God then?
The phrase “all My pleasure” proves that God does Good ONLY by Himself or sometimes through creation whenever “His Will” is mentioned in Holy Scripture including those (GOOD) things “NOT done” toward the “End” too as mentioned in Isaiah 46:10 (in principle, Jeremiah 29:11).
God’s Will refers ONLY to the Good part in some creation’s will in acting out the Good when He influences them (James 1:17) in Good ONLY (Isaiah 45:13) including Good done through unbelievers (Isaiah 45:5) too as the example in King Cyrus of Persia clearly proves.
God cannot have a different Principle in Good agreeing Perfectly to the word “Every” in James 1:17. That is, God does Good ONLY (James 1:17) and NOT Evil (James 1:13) without being confused with the Judgment case described earlier as Scripture reveals.
God does Good “despite” evil done by Creation is the correct way of understanding “Predestination” that God works out all things after the counsel of His Will (Ephesians 1:11) through His Good actions ONLY (no evil actions) agreeing to His Perfect Way of “overcoming evil by good too” (Romans 12:21). God does not change from His Perfect Ways (Matthew 5:48).
(ix) How about Diseases?
All Diseases are a curse due to sin (Deuteronomy 28:58 – 62, Psalm 11:6, Deuteronomy 29:26 – 27) or due to purposeless evil by “the gods” toward those “serving them” knowingly or unknowingly (Deuteronomy 7:15 – 16, Psalm 16:4, Jeremiah 16:13, Matthew 4:9)
Despite these diseases even in the case where it is purposely done by the evil ones (“the gods”) in their power toward innocent ones —-> such as in the case of Job (Satan does it by his OWN will in Job 2:7, and God did NOT DO it though Satan tried to “incite” God (Job 2:3) into doing evil first in Job 2:5) —-> or in this man blind from the birth (in John 9:1) —-> must be due to the ‘agency of Satan or these evil gods’ agreeing to Psalm 82, Job 2:3 with respect to the authority given to them as God cannot have a different Principle in Allowing Likewise Evils—-> God allows it to display His Healing Power later overcoming these evils! (John 9:3)
For the cases where the Healing was not immediate, God will judge these “gods” for their evil accordingly in all these eventually (Psalm 82:1, 8) And heal the blind and all other diseases one day too accordingly (Isaiah 35:4 – 6, Isaiah 42:16, both the physically blind & spiritually blind too in 2 Corinthians 4:4 as well) proving God’s Will is Good ONLY (Unchanging).
These cases are not to be confused with “Judgment” where some are “allowed” to be “blind” (physically or spiritually) or be inflicted with “other diseases” due to Judgment for their OWN sin first (Acts 13:11, Acts 5:3 – 5, 2 Kings 2:23 – 24, 2 Kings 5:26 – 27 where such “severe” Judgments have its reasons though unknown fully to us but God will prove it one day for sure; the guiding Principle that these were that cruel within them must be true as Isaiah 3:11 testifies the ‘level of Judgment must match one’s OWN level of cruelty or wickedness first though Scripture may not detail all aspects of it’).
(x) A real life example – A child born in rape. Please explain.
Why did God “allow” (1 Corinthians 10:13) that evil and how do we understand it?
Please consider:
Firstly, God stopped Creating DIRECTLY.
Meaning?
Humans have a CHOICE to make say wanna have a baby or not & God ALOWS them to make that CHOICE.
God creates DIRECTLY is when He creates without any human decision or any other decision by His Free Will Alone such as the case of Adam & Eve.
Babies are not thrown from heaven by God nor do women get pregnant without any human intervention first DECIDING that FIRST such as their CHOICE be it in a parent case or rape (creation’s will is that).
God DID NOT Influence that evil of rape in any way be it secretly or via the programming of the brain of the rapist by Him as some dare assert (plainly contradicting James 1:13 by their OWN self-made wrong interpretation of Theology concerning this) as He gave those involved CHOICE by which they are ABLE to CHOOSE between Good & Evil fairly in ALL cases (though they will lie to you claiming otherwise via psychological reasons or mental illness too) because God assures that in 1 Corinthians 10:13 “despite” their sicknesses due to “their OWN gods” whom such serve via their OWN sins knowingly or unknowingly.
Those are cases where God creates INDIRECTLY after the human choice first as He “allowed” it that way. Simple (the meaning of how He creates INDIRECTLY in this case too) accounting for the all things part more accurately agreeing with “REALITY”.
How about people who are trying to have kids but can’t?
This is not only dependent upon that husband & wife but more forces are at play from the spiritual realm as we discussed earlier seeing vaguely only due to limited Scripture revealing these secrets (Psalm 82:1 – 4, not only humans are involved).
Why does God allow it?
God “allowed” such power just like the knife & murder analogy given in an earlier post too. Apart from that, so that we are not robots but are able to decide our decisions too being able to make a choice being aware of the consequences of our choices as well.
But doesn’t God Alone have the final say in creating that child out of rape?
Firstly, the rapist decided that & it happens according to the law of biology together with higher forces at play in this age As God gave authority to these “gods” & they chose NOT to stop that rape immediately via the authority given to them to do so as mentioned in Psalm 82:2 – 4 so clearly ‘as it is written’ (2 Corinthians 4:4, Psalm 82;1 – 4, Ephesians 6:12).
Accurate details remain Unknown due to limited Scripture but all these play a role as we can infer from existing verses quoted earlier too. God ALLOWED (1 Corinthians 10:13) such power to them ‘doing evil’ by their OWN will and thus will judge them all later when it’s wrong, no worries. (Ecclesiastes 3:17, Psalm 82:1, 8).
For example, those “gods” that give disease and all that as in the case of Job reveals, Satan caused that diseases on Job by his OWN CHOICE (Job 2:7) & such evil must therefore be similarly occurring in Principle for God being Impartial cannot be having more than One Principle (with regards to Judgment, being Fair Romans 2:11) but may show Mercy only by His Choice (His Free Will choice to do what He wants with His OWN things such as “(undeserved) Mercy”, Romans 9:15, Matthew 20:15) clearly marking a Perfect Distinction in such cases.
For if “Mercy” is based on something we did or something we are credited for due to our own role in some way, it won’t be Mercy at all.
Mercy to “ALL” (Romans 11:32) is eventually assured by Scripture too in the “End” (James 2:13) revealing that God is Perfect (Luke 6:36).
God “binding” them in their “OWN” disobedience FIRST is the correct way of understanding Romans 11:32 as discussed in a previous discussion as well in detail putting NO blame whatsoever on God for ANY Evil done when Scripture is Understood correctly agreeing to all related verses as well (Job 1:22).
Conclusion
God Alone is Good and we can understand it through Proper Exegesis of Scripture.
“so that it might be fulfilled that having been spoken by the prophet, saying: “I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things hidden from the foundation of the world.” – Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 13:35)
What is the Purpose of “Secrets” or “Hidden” things?
They bring “Glory to God” when Revealed because these will prove that God Alone is Good.
“The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons to the age, that we may observe all the words of this law.” (Deuteronomy 29:29)
“It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.” (Proverbs 25:2)
“Then you will discern the fear of the LORD And discover the knowledge of God.” (Proverbs 2:5)
“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.” – Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:6)
