‘You cannot understand a glimpse of the Trinity with a dot of pride, human pride’ – Unknown
‘Humility is not how low one is but is relative to ‘how low’ One is Willing to descend from how High One really is; Now, Christ Descends from the Highest of the Heavens to the Lowest of Hell (Ephesians 4:9 – 10, 1 Peter 3:19 – 20, 1 Peter 4:5 – 6) to Save the World (1 John 4:14). That’s the Highest Humility (Philippians 2:3 – 5, Philippians 2:8). Yes, Lord Jesus ’emptied Himself’ [the God-ship Equality with the Father, Philippians 2:6] to become ‘Nothing’ (Philippians 2:7) just to save us all (1 Timothy 2:6, Colossians 1:20), isn’t it incomprehensible?’ – Anonymous
“He [God] causeth the humble to tread in judgment, And teacheth the humble His way.” (Psalm 25:9, YLT)
Yes, Trinity beyond the mere Human Pronoun Argument too.
(i) Mystery of God
‘God became Flesh’ (John 1:1, John 1:14 —> please note the word ‘Begotten’ in John 1:14 to realize this).
It’s indeed a Great Controversy that God Chose this Way to Reveal Himself:
“And without Controversy Great is the Mystery of Godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” (1 Timothy 3:16, KJV)
(ii) Antichrist spirit
The antichrist spirit denies that ‘Jesus came in the flesh’:
“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God;
and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.” (1 John 4:1 – 3, NASB)
Please note ‘carefully’ that confessing ‘Jesus came in the Flesh’ (1 John 4:2) is equivalent to confessing ‘God became manifest in the Flesh’ (1 Timothy 3:16) and the spirit that does ‘not’ do it is the ‘antichrist’ (1 John 4:3).
Can you see it?
In other words, Christ is NOT a glorified creation. If it were so, to confess that a ‘glorified creation’ has ‘come in the flesh’ is NOT a big deal. The Bible clearly points to ‘Jesus’ (The Word that was God, John 1:1) became Begotten in the ‘Flesh’ (John 1:14) —> that is, ‘God became manifest in the Flesh’ (1 Timothy 3:16). This is the meaning of ‘Begotten’ = ‘became Flesh’ as John 1:14 which contains BOTH these words clearly mentions and it does NOT mean created as anti-trinitarians claim without a verse (nor the word ‘created’ is found in this ‘definition verse’) alluding to human arguments which are ‘debunked easily’ by this verse alone.
“And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.” (John 1:14, NASB)
(iii) Others called as ‘god’ in the Bible
Humans have been called ‘like a god’ (Exodus 7:1) while the ‘sons of God’ have been called as ‘gods’ (Psalm 82:6, Psalm 86:8 referring to the ones mentioned in Ephesians 6:12, implied) even Satan too (2 Corinthians 4:4) but NONE has been said to be “Equal to God the Father except Lord Jesus Christ Alone’ (John 1:1, Philippians 2:6, John 10:30).
Please notice that the phrase ‘Jesus is not God’ is NOT written in any verse in the Bible. Deep if you understand it.
I repeat, “only” Christ is Written to be Equal to the Father Himself, that’s the strongest irrefutable argument.
For a more detailed discussion regarding this, please consider the write ups below for edification:
(iv) The Human Pronoun argument – A Classic
Please consider it in a conversational form below:
Question 1: If Jesus was equal with the Father, why did he say my father is greater than I??
Reply 1: Humility, He made Himself lower.
Please read first the write up above explaining this “timeline” with “verses” testifying to each claim made.
Question 2: Jesus said, By myself i can do nothing 👉 equal with the Father??
Reply 2: He emptied Himself and made Himself nothing.
He chose to let go of being God. Perfect Humility to save the World and demonstrate in Flesh even how to be a Perfect Man.
Question 3: How is Jesus equal to the Father if EQUAL 👉Matthew 24:36 —-> No one knows about that day or hour, not even JESUS , but the Father only?
Reply 3: He chose not to know, not grasping on to equality with God ‘to know even’ but letting it go, even ‘learning to know’ & demonstrating Respect for God’s Authority.
Question 4: How can he pray to G-d if he is equal with the Father?
Reply 4: He prayed to the Father as He demonstrates all righteousness, after emptying Himself and becoming Man.
God’s Perfect Leadership by example. He fulfilled His Own Commands by Coming in the Flesh as Man. So, He didn’t just Command but Fulfilled All His Commands too (Proof verse? Matthew 5:17). Here’s a set of verses (in principle) revealing this ‘often misunderstood Truth’:
“Then Jesus arrived from Galilee at the Jordan coming to John, to be baptized by him.
But John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I have need to be baptized by You, and do You come to me?”
But Jesus answering said to him, “Permit it at this time; for in this way it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he permitted Him.” (Matthew 3:13 – 15, NASB)
That is, He prayed to the Father as He demonstrates all righteousness, after emptying Himself and becoming Man.
That’s the God I respect and honour and Love, Perfect in highest Humility indeed.
Your Pronoun “human” argument doesn’t apply since even in the Old Testament, YHWH has invoked YHWH which going by your pronoun argument, it would imply that there are two YHWHs which doesn’t makes sense unless it’s the Father and Son Who are One as God decided to reveal Himself as such (John 10:30).
Please consider the write up below to see this ‘rarely’ known verse and truth:
Question 5: Father and son who are one ][not and only]
Reply 5: He is Equal “only” to Whom He mentions He is Equal.
For example, the phrase baptizing them in the Name of the Father, Son & the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19) proves Trinity for one cannot be baptized in a creation’s name.
Here’s the verse from the Old Testament refuting all human pronoun arguments:
“And Jehovah saith unto the Adversary: ‘Jehovah doth push against thee, O Adversary, Yea, push against thee doth Jehovah, Who is fixing on Jerusalem, Is not this a brand delivered from fire?'” (Zechariah 3:2, YLT)
Question 6: Ylt?
Reply 6: You may paste your Jewish translation here too. Afraid to show it?
Question 7: Here we go
וַיֹּ֨אמֶר יְהֹוָ֜ה אֶל־הַשָּׂטָ֗ן יִגְעַ֨ר יְהֹוָ֤ה בְּךָ֙ הַשָּׂטָ֔ן וְיִגְעַ֤ר יְהֹוָה֙ בְּךָ֔ הַבֹּחֵ֖ר בִּירֽוּשָׁלָ֑͏ִם הֲל֧וֹא זֶ֦ה א֖וּד מֻצָּ֥ל מֵאֵֽשׁ׃
And the Lord said to Satan, The Lord rebukes you, O Satan; the Lord that has chosen Jerusalem rebukes you. Is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
Reply 7: Is it Lord = Adonai or YHWH mentioned explicitly in that verse? and which translation is this?
Question 8: What is the problem?
Reply 8: Please answer the question, is it written in Hebrew as “Adonai” (Lord) or YHWH in Zechariah 3:2? After you answer this, we shall continue discussing.
Question 9: Three times it’s mentioned יהיה
Reply 9: Is that YHWH or ‘will be’? Then why did the translation you use translate it as ‘Lord’ (Adonai) instead? Who is translating carelessly or not accurately to ‘what is actually written in that verse’?
Question 10: First of all, I’m not here to answer questions, you are the one who should explain your false trinity.
Reply 10: I have already explained (in write up above & my replies), only you refuse to explain or answer direcly.
I repeat one last time, it it YHWH mentioned or Adonai (Lord) or ‘Will be’?
Then why not translate Lord as ‘Will be’? Opps.
Question 11: If John 10:30 is true, then what about this?
Me and my wife are also one 👇👇👇
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and they shall be one flesh. So, are we one and the same?
Reply 11: The man and his wife are not said to be “one” but “one flesh” (different in meaning).
That’s Why [because of His Greatest Humility to Descend to ‘Save the World’], the Father Exalts Lord Jesus Christ Alone back to ‘Equality to Him’ (even as the “Almighty”, Revelation 1:8) as ‘He Saves the World’ (John 1:29, John 4:42) and each will be Awe-struck and utter the ‘Beautiful Confession’ that ‘Jesus is Lord’ too! Verses:
“For this reason also, God highly exalted Him [Lord Jesus Christ], and bestowed on Him the Name which is above every Name,
so that at the Name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:9 – 11, NASB)
“The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” (John 1:29, NASB)
For more details regarding the Beautiful Confession, please consider:
Hosanna in the Highest!
“and said to the woman — ‘No more because of thy speaking do we believe; for we ourselves have heard and known that this is truly the Saviour of the world — the Christ.'” – the Rejected, Outcast Samaritans (John 4:42, YLT)
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “Who is and Who was and Who is to come, the Almighty.” – Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:8, NASB)
“Where is the way to the dwelling of light?
And darkness, where is its place,
That you may take it to its territory
And that you may discern the paths to its home?” – God (Job 38:19 – 20, NASB)