Wicked – Does Lord Jesus Christ bring Hope to the Goats too?

Question

How about the goats? Aren’t they supposed to be in the Lake of Fire?

Reply

The goats will endure age-during Judgment in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:11 – 15, Matthew 25:46) on Judgment Day (Matthew 25:31, Revelation 20:11, 1 Peter 4:5) in their ‘resurrected flesh’ for Judgment (John 5:28 – 29, 1 Peter 4:6 mentions ‘judged in the flesh’ meaning this) —-> but thereafter these will ‘live to God in their spirit-state’ (as 1 Peter 4:6 reveals this Mystery as the Reconciliation from the Lake of Fire as beautifully echoed in Revelation 22:17 too).

These former goats or wicked spirit will be a given a suitable spiritual body thereafter sir (1 Corinthians 15:44) as God Wills (1 Corinthians 15:38) as the Promise of Hope in being “made Alive” due to Lord Jesus Christ’s Work (1 Corinthians 15:21) applies to “all men” (1 Corinthians 15:22) including the wicked too (Acts 24:15).

The Equation for Romans 5:18 – 19 as it is Written is this:

Adam + The Many = All Men

To Quote:

Please also note these two verses below speaking this SAME BIBLICAL TRUTH:

“So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to ALL MEN, even so through One Act of Righteousness there Resulted Justification of LIFE to ALL MEN.” (Romans 5:18, NASB)

“For as through the one man’s disobedience THE MANY were made SINNERS, even so through the Obedience of the One THE MANY will be made RIGHTEOUS.” (Romans 5:19, NASB)

The SAME ALL MEN mentioned to be condemned is the SAME ALL MEN mentioned to be eventually Justified to LIFE in Romans 5:18 without any ‘strange manipulations or explanations’.

Similarly, the SAME THE MANY which were made SINNERS is the SAME THE MANY mentioned to be MADE RIGHTEOUS eventually in Romans 5:19 agreeing to all these. The MANY is mentioned here in this verse since ALL MEN were made SINNERS through ADAM (where ADAM + THE MANY = ALL MEN who were made SINNERS).

In fact, ALL MEN condemned is mentioned in Romans 5:18 because it includes ADAM + the REST of MANKIND (the MANY). Lord Jesus Christ is OUT OF THIS EQUATION simply because HE did NOT SIN and is NOT condemned by ADAM’s sin but rather He is mentioned DISTINCTLY as the ONE through WHOM this JUSTIFICATION of LIFE and being MADE RIGHTEOUS will Happen toward ALL MEN (that is, ADAM + the MANY, where THE MANY = the REST of MANKIND excluding ADAM).

In Greek it is ‘the many’ and ‘not many’ which is mentioned in Romans 5:19 meaning that a particular ‘the many’ is referred to here namely that ‘the many’ that were made ‘sinners through Adam’ which is ‘the rest of mankind excluding Adam’, that is:

THE MANY (in Romans 5:19) = ‘the rest of mankind excluding Adam only’

ADAM is singled out since he is the CAUSE of the FALL from whom the CONDEMNATION and SIN is passed on. THE MANY is separately mentioned as part of the ALL MEN as the rest of MANKIND gets imputed with this sin/condemnation automatically as is the JUSTIFICATION of LIFE and the being MADE RIGHTEOUS in CHRIST is also PROMISED to be AUTOMATIC eventually when His Ransom applies in its OWN TIMES being a Testimony (or comes to pass, as 1 Timothy 2:6 reveals).

Source: www.anonymouschristian.org/blog/resurrection-of-the-dead-is-there-hope-for-the-wicked-too/

Conclusion

Please note that ALL FLESH in Verses below refer to ALL HUMAN BEINGS ever created having been MADE ALIVE by Lord Jesus Christ in their respective Resurrected Spiritual Bodies (Bodily Resurrection)

To quote:

Thus in light of all these Scripture we see that the “age-during life” given to “each of the ALL FLESH” mentioned in this Verse (John 17:2) must mean as follows:

(i) Life age-during in AGE1 onward is given to Sheepfold1 in the FLESH of their SINLESS RESURRECTED BODIES.

(ii) Life age-during in AGE2 onward is given to Sheepfold2 in the FLESH of their SINLESS RESURRECTED BODIES.

(iii) Life age-during in AGE3 onward is given to the formerly-Wicked post Lake of Fire Judgment in the FLESH of their SINLESS RESURRECTED BODIES (implied).

P/S: FLESH refers to a RESURRECTED BODY in these Verses (Context of afterlife and Salvation implies this). For example, the infamous Prophecy by Job that he will see God in the FLESH (or Resurrected Body)

“And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my FLESH shall I see God:” (Job 19:26, KJV)

ALL Glory to Lord Jesus Christ, the Blessed Saviour of the World!

To Quote again (some details):

Consider also these Verses regarding ALL FLESH PROPHETICALLY Written toward this END [Please note the word ALL FLESH carefully in each Verse]:

“And they shall go forth, and look upon the CARCASSES of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto ALL FLESH.” (Isaiah 66:24, KJV)

“according as Thou didst give to Him authority over ALL FLESH, that — all that Thou hast given to Him — He may give to them life age-during;” – Lord Jesus Christ (John 17:2, YLT)

“And ALL FLESH shall see the Salvation of God.” (Luke 3:6, KJV)

“And the Glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and ALL FLESH shall see it together: for the Mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.” (Isaiah 40:5, KJV)

What do these Verses mean?

So these Verses imply that ALL FLESH (in their Respective IMPERISHABLE – SINLESS Resurrected Bodies – 1 Corinthians 15:42, 1 Corinthians 15:50, being Made Alive by Christ eventually in the END, 1 Corinthians 15:21 – 22) —-> will EXPERIENCE God’s Salvation because:

1) CARCASSES ONLY

CARCASSES = Dead Body with NO SOUL and NO SPIRIT (hence NO Conscious Torment remains)

“CARCASSES of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched” (Isaiah 66:24) = Eventually in this Fire that is NOT quenched ONLY the LIFELESS Dead Bodies remain with NO SOUL and NO SPIRIT of any man being DESTROYED because SIN DWELT there (refers to the absolute destruction of the bodies which contained sin).

2) SPIRIT lives to God post Lake of Fire Judgment

What happened to their ‘soul and spirit’?

As Explained prior, in the Lake of Fire which contains the Fires of Gehenna (from Hades, Revelation 20:14) —> causes the Second Death toward the BODY + SOUL only belonging to these WICKED (Matthew 10:28) —> Man is made up of Body + Soul + Spirit distinctly though there may be overlaps (1 Thessalonians 5:23 reveals this distinction) —->so the wicked is Resurrected in a PERISHABLE FLESH first for JUDGMENT in the LAKE of FIRE which is DESTROYED, hence perishable (John 5:28 – 29) —> but their SPIRIT is SAVED because it LIVES to GOD after this Judgment in the Lake of Fire (1 Peter 4:6).

This SPIRIT may be given a SPIRITUAL BODY (1 Corinthians 15:44) as the General Context of the Resurrection of the Dead (1 Corinthians 15:21) applies toward ALL MEN eventually (1 Corinthians 15:49) in their ‘own order (or time, implied in 1 Corinthians 15:23)’ as the HOPE for the Wicked too (Acts 24:15) toward this END for ALL MEN to be MADE ALIVE by CHRIST (1 Corinthians 15:22).

MADE ALIVE by CHRIST (1 Corinthians 15:22) = In an Imperishable Sinless Body (1 Corinthians 15:42, 1 Corinthians 15:50).

Is there Hope beyond the Lake of Fire as Described Earlier? Yes, to quote:

Reconciliation from the Lake of Fire is Prophetically mentioned in the Mysterious Verse below (after their Judgment first in the Lake of Fire, ‘their part’ in Revelation 21:8):

“The Spirit and the bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost.” (Revelation 22:17, NASB)

Please note that the ‘Bride’ (His Church, believers) are calling out to the “thirsty” ones (from the ‘lake of Fire’, post Judgment) to be ‘relieved of their thirst’ (as ONLY those being punished in the Lake of Fire can feel thirsty, right?). Believers can never thirst in the afterlife (John 6:35, John 4:14) and thus cannot be the ones referred to in the verse above (Revelation 22:17) especially since ‘all believers of faith’ are His BRIDE (mentioned distinctly in Revelation 22:17).

3) ALL FLESH together = ALL MANKIND in their IMPERISHABLE RESURRECTED BODIES of differing Glory accordingly (1 Corinthians 15:35 – 49)

Hence the quoted Verses referring to ALL FLESH (all men ever created being in their respective resurrected bodies) SEE the SALVATION of God and in Isaiah 66:24 —> some of them also look at their FORMER CARCASS or DEAD BODY in sin being destroyed in the ‘unquenchable Lake of Fire’ —> they ‘loathe their past self in that body’ (because now they are SAVED in an IMPERISHABLE Resurrected Body HATING SIN too) as it is PROPHETICALLY Revealed in Verses above agreeing in PRINCIPLE in Verse below (toward such amongst these):

“Then you will remember your evil ways and your deeds that were not good, and you will loathe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and your abominations.” (Ezekiel 36:31, NASB)

So, Isaiah 66:24 must refer PROPHETICALLY to somewhere a Time in AGE3 because only then ALL FLESH (All Mankind ever Created are SAVED being Resurrected in an Imperishable Sinless Body too).

Source: www.anonymouschristian.org/blog/salvation-of-all-men-post-afterlife-judgments-must-be-saved/

To Quote (also):

Keys’ are for ‘Unlocking’ Verses:

“I will give you the KEYS of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you BIND on earth shall have been BOUND in heaven, and whatever you LOOSE on earth shall have been LOOSED in heaven.” – Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 16:19, NASB)

“and He Who is Living, and I did become Dead, and, lo, I am Living to the ages of the Ages. Amen! and I have the KEYS of the HADES and of the DEATH.” – Lord Jesus Christ (Revelation 1:18,YLT)

The time frame of “ages of the Ages” is highlighted in the above to show that HE will use the KEYS to SAVE from those Bound to HADES and DEATH in the LAKE OF FIRE too (e.g. Revelation 14:11, Revelation 20:10 with Revelation 20:14) – Can you see it? (the phrase ‘ages of Ages’ occurs in some of these Verses quoted connecting these together)

“From the hand of Sheol I do ransom them, From death I redeem them, Where is thy plague, O death? Where thy destruction, O Sheol? Repentance is hid from Mine Eyes.” – God Speaks (in Hosea 13:14, YLT)

Repentance is hid from Mine eyes = God Will NOT Change His Mind from Saving in the afterlife from both SHEOL (HADES) or DEATH as Hosea 13:14 Reveals Majestically even if when these are cast into the LAKE of FIRE for the Final SECOND DEATH (as Revelation 20:14 clearly mentions causing the Mysterious Reconciliation from the Lake of Fire toward these “thirsty ones” as Prophesied Majestically in Revelation 22:17 as well – His Bride and the Spirit calls out to these thirsty ones and only the Lake of Fire makes someone to still be thirsty, right? His Bride or Church, believers are NOT the thirsty ones for we NEVER thirst again after our Resurrection – Isn’t it obvious? Revelation 20:4 – 6, John 4:14, Luke 20:35 – 36).

If the time frame of “ages of Ages” is NOT highlighted in Verse above, God knows that some men will ‘add’ to His Holy Word by Claiming that the KEYS to UNLOCK ‘time period is only in the dispensation of Grace now or other man made limits’ which are all REFUTED by this WRITTEN phrase.

Source: https://www.anonymouschristian.org/blog/afterlife-salvation-mysteries/

Truly, God Alone is both Good (Mark 10:18) and Perfect (Matthew 5:48)!

“You have heard … hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies …” – Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:43 – 44, BLB)

Please note the phrase “But I say to you” carefully in Verses above which proves that God Will CANCEL every HATE YOUR ENEMY concept(including Judgment) eventually and Replace it with LOVE YOUR ENEMIES and that’s why He Commands us to Demonstrate that on earth itself. The LOVE here is AGAPE = The Highest LOVE of GOD.

Truly:

“But LOVE ye your ENEMIES, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; … HE is KIND unto the UNTHANKFUL and to the EVIL.” – Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:35, KJV)

Amazing Love Indeed!

Here’s a Nice Poem:

“He saves the sheep, the goats he doth not save!”

So rang Tertullian’s sentence, on the side

Of that unpitying Phrygian sect which cried, —

“Him can no fount of fresh forgiveness lave

Who sins, once washed by the baptismal wave!”

So spake the fierce Tertullian.

But she sighed,The infant church, of love she felt the tide

Stream on her from her Lord’s yet recent grave,

And then she smiled, and in the Catacombs,

With eye suffused, but heart inspired true,

On those walls subterranean, where she hid

Her head in ignominy, death and tombs,

She her Good Shepherd’s hasty image drew,

And on His shoulders, not a lamb, a kid.” (by Matthew Arnold)

*A Kid = a young goat.

A Little ‘Rarely Known History of the Church’, please consider (to quote):

Testimony of the Catacombs.

An illuminating side-light is cast on the opinions of the early Christians by the inscriptions and emblems on the monuments in the Roman Catacombs.12 It is well known that from the end of the First to the end of the Fourth Century the early Christians buried their dead, probably with the knowledge and consent of the pagan authorities, in subterranean galleries excavated in the soft rock (tufa) that underlies Rome.

These ancient cemeteries were first uncovered A.D. 1578. Already sixty excavations have been made extending five hundred and eighty-seven miles. More than six, some estimates say eight, million bodies are known to have been buried between A.D. 72 and A.D. 410.

Eleven thousand epitaphs and inscriptions have been found; few dates are between A.D. 72 and 100; the most are from A.D. 150 to A.D. 410. The galleries are from three to five feet wide and eight feet high, and the niches for bodies are five tiers deep, one above another, each silent tenant in a separate cell. At the entrance of each cell is a tile or slab of marble, once securely cemented and inscribed with name, epitaph, or emblem.

Haweis beautifully says in his “Conquering Cross:” “The public life of the early Christian was persecution above ground; his private life was prayer underground.” The emblems and inscriptions are most suggestive. The principal device, scratched on slabs, carved on utensils and rings, and seen almost everywhere, is the Good Shepherd, surrounded by his flock and carrying a lamb. But most striking of all, he is found with a goat on his shoulder; which teaches us that even the wicked were at the early date regarded as the objects of the Savior’s solicitude, after departing from this life.

Source: http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Prevailing.html