Charity Doctrine for Eternal Life in the New Testament Summary
Last Updated: 23 November 2021
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Fruit Mystery – What is the “Fruit that remains” which Christ Spoke of?
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161287891902784
Bible Verses:
“… 11“These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that YOUR JOY MAY BE FULL. 12This is MY COMMANDMENT, that YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU. 13GREATER LOVE HAS NO ONE THAN THIS, THAN TO LAY DOWN ONE’S LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS. 14You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. 15No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all things that I heard from My Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that YOU SHOULD GO AND BEAR FRUIT, and THAT YOUR FRUIT SHOULD REMAIN, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you. 17THESE THINGS I COMMAND YOU, THAT YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 15:11 – 17, NKJV)
Comments:
1) “Fruit” = “Love one Another in Action” (because loving in feeling or words doesn’t count according to 1 John 3:16 – 18)
2) Christ Repeats the “Command” of “Love One Another” (at the start Verse 12 and at the end Verse 17) making the entire “Context” what He Meant as “Fruit that remains” = “Love in Action” which we do toward others.
3) The “Greatest Fruit” = “His Love in Action of Laying Down His Life for us” which He Extends that we can emulate as these Verses mean above: “… 13GREATER LOVE HAS NO ONE THAN THIS, THAN TO LAY DOWN ONE’S LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS. 14You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. …” (John 15:13 – 14, NKJV)
4) How to emulate this ‘Greatest Love’ to ‘lay down our lives for one’s friends’? The Bible Clearly Defines it as follows by this Same Inspired Author by St. John the Apostle as the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ especially toward those ‘who obey the Lord’s Commands’, Verses:
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
Comment: Please notice the similar phrase “… 13GREATER LOVE HAS NO ONE THAN THIS, THAN TO LAY DOWN ONE’S LIFE FOR HIS FRIENDS. …” (John 15:13, NKJV) = “… because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. …” (1 John 3:16, NKJV) is Described here clearly as the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ of ‘Sharing this World’s Goods’ (because beyond that, whether they repent or not, it’s their responsibility but we would have done our part) as it’s Defined here as “… 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, … HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? … let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:17, 18, NKJV).
Note: Whether they are ‘other fruits of action’, it’s not defined in these Primary Verses so that doesn’t matter nor does it take away this Truth namely, the most important Fruit is Defined clearly as the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as it’s “Love in Action” toward “Friends” who “Obey the Gospel” (1 John 3:16 – 18) and extended next even to a stranger/neighbor as the Parable of the Good Samaritan implies for “Eternal Life” in Christ’s Own Words (Luke 10:25 – 37) till toward Enemies too to “even do Good and Lend Money to them” (in Matthew 5:43 – 48, Luke 6:27 – 36 by Christ Again).
5) Judgment of Sheep Vs Sheep
There is a general fallacy where Christians think that since they are “sheep”, they will “not” be judged based on the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle. Truth is, God Will Judge the “Fat Sheep” (Prosperity Gospel Sheep, Rich Christians) against the “Thin/Lean Sheep” (Poorer Christians) based on how much one practiced the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle. Really?
Yes, Judgment of Sheep and Sheep based on the “Charity Doctrine” as per “Bible Verses” and not opinions of men below:
“… 15I will feed My flock, and I will make them lie down,” says the Lord God. 16“I will seek what was lost and bring back what was driven away, bind up the broken and strengthen what was sick; but I WILL DESTROY THE FAT AND THE STRONG, and FEED THEM IN JUDGMENT.” 17‘And as for you, O My flock, thus says the Lord God: “Behold, I SHALL JUDGE BETWEEN SHEEP AND SHEEP, between rams and goats. … 20‘Therefore thus says the Lord God to them: “Behold, I MYSELF WILL JUDGE BETWEEN THE FAT and THE LEAN SHEEP. 21Because you have pushed with side and shoulder, butted all the weak ones with your horns, and scattered them abroad, 22therefore I will save My flock, and they shall no longer be a prey; and I WILL JUDGE BETWEEN SHEEP AND SHEEP. …” (Ezekiel 34:15 – 17, 20 – 22, NKJV)
This is what God Promises for the “Fat Sheep” = “Prosperity Sheep” even if they’re sheep in Verses above: “… I WILL DESTROY THE FAT AND THE STRONG, and FEED THEM IN JUDGMENT.” …” (Ezekiel 34:17). Please take note that this set of Verses and Context is very important because when Christ Quotes His Parables using the “Sheep” definition especially ‘seeking out the Lost Sheep’ (e.g. Luke 15:4) He is Quoting Ezekiel 34:15 – 16 here which defines the ‘lost sheep’ as the ones which were ‘harmed or driven away’ by the ‘Fat/Prosperity Sheep’. Can you see it? Please read the ‘Bible Verses’ Carefully because He Said that Speaking in Parables many won’t understand His Words/Definition (Matthew 13:13) unless they’re unlocked with ‘other Scripture only’.
This means that if we as Christians do not demonstrate this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle, our “Fruit” may not be there and we could be condemned if we didn’t demonstrate such Love as Christ Commands in these Verses via Apostle St. John’s Writings or Prophet Ezekiel’s Prophecy of “Judgment of Sheep vs Sheep” which Christ Himself Quoted in His Famous ‘Parable of the Lost Sheep’ referring to this Same Context of Ezekiel’s Verses here which Describes the “Lost Sheep” = “the neglected poorer Sheep as opposed to the Fat/Prosperity Sheep which Grabbed everything by the advantage in life & in Church too due to race/wealth or any other biases”.
However if we did it in any little way that we can based on ‘relative measure’, we are not to be blamed anymore as this Verse Describes God’s Judgement in this aspect:
“… 1And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites.[a] 3So He said, “TRULY I say to you that this POOR widow has put in MORE THAN ALL; 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings [b]for God, but she OUT OF HER POVERTY PUT IN ALL THE LIVELIHOOD THAT SHE HAD.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 21:1 – 4, NKJV)
This “Fruit” is what “False Prophets” cannot even fake it because how can they fake a Charity Doctrine Lifestyle where they work and share too? All false prophets do the ‘outward righteousness’ just so that they get to collect money & live in prosperity, right? So how can they share and live the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle which also contradicts the
purpose of which they are false namely to serve Mammon (“Money”)?
“… 13“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14[c]Because narrow is the gate and [d]DIFFICULT is the way which LEADS TO LIFE, and there are FEW WHO FIND IT. 15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19EVERY TREE that does NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT is CUT DOWN AND THROWN INTO THE FIRE. 20Therefore by their fruits you will know them. 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we NOT PROPHESIED in Your name, CAST OUT DEMONS in Your name, and DONE MANY WONDERS in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from Me, you who practice LAWLESSNESS!’ 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN who BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:13 – 24, NKJV)
Comment: In Verses above, Christ Clearly Warns that “False Prophets” will come not doing any Charity Doctrine Lifestyle but “MANY” will be deceived based on these “… 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we NOT PROPHESIED in Your name, CAST OUT DEMONS in Your name, and DONE MANY WONDERS in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I NEVER KNEW YOU; …” (Matthew 7:22 – 23, NKJV).
The ForeRunner for Christ Himself, St. John the Baptist himself uttered the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ as the first fruit likewise while warning of the “fruit worthy of repentance” in Luke 3:7 – 14 likewise which is Described further in links below:
1) Mystery of True Repentance and the Charity Doctrine Commands – Safe Route Scripturally
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161183062772784/
2) Faith Working through Love Mystery – Faith that is Greatest is the one with the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161268374092784/
Peace to you
Lord Jesus Christ Commanded the Charity Doctrine for Eternal Life
‘… Salvation is not by Works but Obedience to His Commands is a must to avoid Lawlessness …’
“… 46“But WHY DO YOU CALL ME ‘LORD, LORD,’ and NOT DO THE THINGS WHICH I SAY? 47Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:46 – 48, NKJV)
Please consider the following Facts with “Bible Verses” (not opinions) for each claim:
1) What did Christ Command Directly for “Eternal Life” in Luke 10:25?
Love God and Love neighbor in Action which He Described as the Parable of the Good Samaritan which is the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of Giving/Sharing (Luke 10:25 – 31). This is discussed in detail in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161268374092784
The ‘Theologically Imperfect’ Good Samaritan inherited Eternal Life a Christ Answers “… Do Likewise and you will Live …” (referring to the entire context of Luke 10:25 – 31) while the “Priest” and “Levite” who ignored this Charity Doctrine Command may thus be inferred as most likely to be ‘unsaved’ in Comparison as discussed in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161268973847784
2) Does the Charity Doctrine affect anything on Judgment Day?
Yes, it’s the only acts mentioned in Matthew 25:31 – 46 probably without which God is not interested in any other doctrine/sacrifices which we can do as we learnt that 100% Correct Prophecy & Bible Knowledge and All Faith even but without Love in Action causes one to be possibly be unsaved as well (in 1 Corinthians 13:2) as it is discussed in detail in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161273705377784
3) The Book of Tobit/Tobias was Quoted by some of the earliest and most reliable Church Fathers as Scripture and it teaches this same Charity Doctrine Truth which is discussed in link below
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161277036987784
The Book of Tobit’s quotes confirm what Christ Taught for “Eternal Life” as the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle in both Luke 10:25 – 31 and Matthew 25:31 – 46.
4) Being Born Again is not evidenced by the Gifts of the Spirit only because there are Christians who do not have these Gifts but have the “More Excellent Way” (of “Agape”/ Love of God in Action, Described in Detail in 1 Corinthians 13) as it is discussed in links below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161249559847784
or
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161273705377784
5) Charity Doctrine is part of the Command for Repentance and God is only Interested in our Worship/Praise or other Religious Activities according to how much we do His Commands especially the Charity Doctrine Commands as this is discussed in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161183062772784
6) The Charity Doctrine Lifestyle is not Taught in Tobit/Tobias only and some Bible Scholars (especially from the Protestant Camp) claim ‘falsely’ that ‘no other Books of the 66-Books Bible’ Teach a doctrine such as “Almsgiving Delivers from Death & maketh to find Mercy & Life Everlasting” (Tobit 12:6 – 9, 15) as this Verse in Daniel Clearly Refutes them:
“… Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and BREAK OFF THY SINS BY RIGHTEOUSNESS, and THINE INIQUITIES BY SHEWING MERCY TO THE POOR; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity. …” – Blessed and Holy Prophet Daniel (Daniel 4:27, KJV based on the Masoretic Text)
Source: https://biblehub.com/daniel/4-27.htm
Compare:
” … 27Therefore, O king, let my counsel please thee, and ATONE FOR THY SINS BY ALMS, and THINE INIQUITIES BY COMPASSION ON THE POOR: it may be God will be long-suffering to thy trespasses.” … – Blessed and Holy Prophet Daniel (Daniel 4:27, Brenton Septuagint Translation, based on the Septuagint or LXX)
Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/daniel/4.htm
The above proves that ‘Judgment of Sins’ is Removed by ‘Almsgiving’ (please see point 7 next) and we don’t even need the Book of Tobit to prove it. The Fact that the ‘Septuagint’ translation may be more accurate is discussed in detail in link below (but it does not matter in this case as the Masoretic also Speaks likewise in Daniel 4:27 here):
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10159572480257784
Teaching & Doing the Charity Doctrine only increases one’s “fruits” of righteousness and does not make anyone fall from grace as it’s discussed in links below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161273218637784
or
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161268374092784
The Opposite of “not” Teaching “nor” doing the Charity Doctrine could lead People to Hell as CHRIST’s DIRECT WORDS ONLY may point in link below (and hence it must be an essential Doctrine):
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161274172067784
Note: Just like Holiness doesn’t save you but without Holiness we are unsaved, similarly Charity Doctrine doesn’t save you but without Charity Doctrine we are unsaved too as these Verses Point according to ‘Relative Measure’ (where if by circumstances we could not do it, it’s okay) and the ‘End Time’ will be like ‘Sodom and Gomorrah’ as Scripture has Prophesied not just referring to the LGBT sin but also the SIN OF NO CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of HELPING THE POOR but also ENJOYING PROSPERITY type of BELIEFS as God Clearly Reveals in Verse below (so please don’t be deceived):
“… Look, this was the iniquity of your sister SODOM: She and her daughter had PRIDE, FULLNESS OF FOOD, and ABUNDANCE OF IDLENESS; NEITHER did she strengthen the hand of the POOR and NEEDY. …” (Ezekiel 16:49, NKJV)
7) Sin is not removed by Almsgiving/Charity Doctrine but the ‘Judgment of Sin’ is removed and thus we are also ‘Cleansed within’ where the Blood of Christ only Removes Sin itself.
The ‘Judgment of Sin’ is removed and thus we are also ‘Cleansed within’ by ALMSGIVING/CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE is Taught Directly BY CHRIST HIMSELF in Verses below:
“… [ 39Then the Lord said to him, ] “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)
This ‘Removal of Judgment of Sins’ due to ‘Love (in Action, implied as words only means nothing as other Verses Testify, e.g. 1 John 3:16 – 18) is Taught by CHRIST HIMSELF Directly below affirming this Truth & Apostle Peter reiterates it too below:
“… Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 7:47, NKJV)
“… And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “love will cover a multitude of sins.” …” (1 Peter 4:8, NKJV)
“… But love covers all sins. …” (Proverbs 10:12, NKJV)
Yes, … Love covers all sins ..” —> from Judgment. Love in Action = Charity Doctrine Lifestyle according to Verses below:
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
More Details regarding this in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161190972077784
Conclusion
In the Great Commission, Christ Commanded that ‘… what He Commands we must obey …’ and so these Verses on ALMSGIVING ought to be Taught as Doctrine in any True Church:
“… 18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. …” (Matthew 28:18 – 20, NKJV)
Love in Action (not in Words or Feelings only) has to be Commanded because our nature is sinful and is unloving because of the flesh:
“… A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 13:34, NKJV)
We “know Love in Action” or “Agape” (Love of God) by how one shares this ‘World’s Goods’ according to Verses below:
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
Simple Fact: No one goes to Hell by Preaching or Teaching to obey what Christ Commanded for this New Testament.
‘… Obedience is better than Sacrifice …’ (1 Samuel 15:22)
Preaching Christ is not just ‘Preaching about Him’ but also ‘Preaching the Commands to Observe which Christ Said’ (Matthew 28:20, Luke 6:46 – 48) without which an End-Time “Lawless” Christianity which converted “MANY” by Prophesying, Casting Out Demons and Miracles was Denied (Matthew 7:20 – 23) chiefly because of ‘not obeying what Christ Taught as Commands Directly’ (Matthew 7:24).
Peace to you
Love in Action toward others = Born of God
Verses for each claim made in this Same Letter/Context:
1) Born Again = Born of God = ‘Love Others in Action’
“… 7Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone WHO LOVES IS BORN OF GOD and KNOWS GOD. 8He who does not love does not know God, for GOD IS LOVE. …” (1 John 4:7 – 8, NKJV)
2) How much we Love God = How much we Love others in Action around us
“… 20If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he WHO DOES NOT LOVE HIS BROTHER whom he has seen, [d]how CAN HE LOVE GOD whom he has not seen? 21And this commandment we have from Him: THAT HE WHO LOVES GOD MUST LOVE HIS BROTHER ALSO. …” (1 John 4:20 – 21, NKJV)
3) “Knowing” Love in Action is clearly Revealed as the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of Giving and Sharing with each other this World’s Goods’ in this Same Letter/Context
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
Peace to you
Can All accurate Faith and All accurate Prophecy knowledge save someone without the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle?
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161273705377784
No, according to the “Bible Verses” below (please note the phrases “ALL FAITH” and “ALL PROPHECY” carefully):
“… And though I have the GIFT of PROPHECY, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have ALL FAITH, so that I could remove mountains, and have NOT CHARITY, I am NOTHING. …” (1 Corinthians 13:2, KJV)
In another translation:
“… And though I have the GIFT of PROPHECY, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have ALL FAITH, so that I could remove mountains, but have NOT LOVE, I am NOTHING. …” (1 Corinthians 13:2, NKJV)
The “Love” (Agape in Greek here refers to the ‘Love of God’) which is ‘not a feeling only nor in words only’ but a TANGIBLE LOVE in ACTION with THIS WORLD’S GOODS which can be called the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ as it is Described in Verses below:
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
Please notice carefully THIS LOVE (“Agape/Love of God” which is Greater than Faith itself according to 1 Corinthians 13:13) is DESCRIBED IN ACTION TO BE EQUAL TO “MARTYRDOM” (as the phrase “… OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN …”) Means is nothing else than Living out the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE which is Put as the Answer to the question which follows as “…17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, … let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …”. This is what is Written.
There is a type of ‘Charity Work’ or ‘Martyrdom’ (the phrase ‘give my body [a]to be burned’ below) which is NOT Love-based and hence is ‘not counted’ as described here:
“… 3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body [a]to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. …” (1 Corinthians 13:3, NKJV)
My point is this: The Bible Describes that ‘all faith’ and ‘all accurate prophecy & knowledge’ (100% correct Bible Doctrine) CANNOT save you either unless one has ‘Agape’ (Love of God) in Action toward others.
If such a case (of having all faith but being unsaved) cannot happen, then the Bible Verses here (in 1 Corinthians 13:2 – 3) will NOT describe such an impossibility, right? In other words, it is possible to have faith and accurate Bible Doctrine but not have love in action either too.
This Light of “Love” (Agape) in Action is what the ‘Foolish Virgins’ lacked (Matthew 25:1 – 13) and even the ‘Lawless end-time Christianity which converted MANY’ didn’t have either (Matthew 7:21 – 24).
We do NOT need to judge whose work or deed or faith is with or without Love but rather just point to this Biblical Truth where the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of “Love in Action” is a must and let each analyze themselves and God Alone Judge all.
Peace to you
Charity Doctrine and HELL link
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161274172067784
Question 1
Who went to HELL for not Practising the CHARITY DOCTRINE?
Reply 1
Christ Himself Taught that the Rich Man went to HELL for not Practising the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE, Verses:
“… 19“There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and [h]fared sumptuously every day. 20But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21desiring to be fed with [i]the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24“Then he cried and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.’ 25But Abraham said, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.’ …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:19 – 26, NKJV)
Note: Please notice that the rich man is “NOT” mentioned to have done any other sin apart from ignoring this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle (Verses 19 – 21, 25). Yes, some Bible Scholars like to twist Verse 25 in particular because they don’t feel it is sin but Christ Cannot be Stating a Parable with Abraham giving a lying reason like that. Instead of following their blasphemies please rather just believe what is Written and accept that living without the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle is sin that is damnable to Hell as Luke 16:19 – 21 and Luke 16:25 clearly prove this as it is Written.
Question 2
Is Charity Doctrine mentioned in Judgment Day Verses?
Reply 2
Yes, in fact Charity Doctrine is the only thing mentioned to identify the Sheep of Christ Vs the Goats, Verses:
“… 31“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the [c]holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 37“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘LORD, WHEN DID WE SEE YOU HUNGRY and FEED YOU, OR THIRSTY AND GIVE YOU DRINK? 38When did we SEE YOU A STRANGER AND TAKE YOU IN, or NAKED AND CLOTHE YOU? 39Or when did we see YOU SICK, OR IN PRISON, AND COME TO YOU?’ 40And the King will answer and say to them, ‘ASSUREDLY, I SAY TO YOU, INASMUCH AS YOU DID IT TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YOU DID IT TO ME.’ 41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42for I WAS HUNGRY AND YOU GAVE ME NO FOOD; I WAS THIRSTY AND YOU GAVE ME NO DRINK; 43I WAS A STRANGER and YOU DID NOT TAKE ME IN, NAKED and YOU DID NOT CLOTHE ME, SICK and IN PRISON AND YOU DID NOT VISIT ME.’ 44“Then they also will answer [d]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when DID WE SEE YOU HUNGRY or THIRSTY OR A STRANGER OR NAKED OR SICK or in PRISON, and did not minister to You?’ 45Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as YOU DID NOT DO IT to one of the least of these, you DID NOT DO IT TO ME.’ 46And THESE WILL GO AWAY INTO EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT, but the righteous into eternal life.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:31 – 46, NKJV)
The Judgment Day Verses above clearly prove that ‘this is the Will of the Father’ for “Eternal Life”.
Question 3
What if someone couldn’t do the Charity Doctrine due to circumstances?
Reply 3
Charity Doctrine here is used in a more general word of loving others in action. If someone falls away because he is unable to do it, it’s okay by relative Measure as Luke 14 identifies special mercy likewise for the POOR, LAME, MAIMED AND BLIND.
Yes, Christ links this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Acts directly to the Salvation in the Resurrection of the Just:
“… 12Then He also said to him who invited Him, “When you give a dinner or a supper, do not ask your friends, your brothers, your relatives, nor rich neighbors, lest they also invite you back, and you be repaid. 13But when you give a feast, invite the POOR, the [d]MAIMED, THE LAME, THE BLIND. 14And you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION OF THE JUST.” …” (Luke 14:12 – 14, NKJV)
“… 21So that servant came and reported these things to his master. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, ‘Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and BRING IN HERE THE POOR AND THE [f]MAIMED AND THE LAME AND THE BLIND.’ 22And the servant said, ‘Master, it is done as you commanded, and still there is room.’ 23Then the master said to the servant, ‘Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. 24For I say to you that none of those men who were invited shall taste my supper.’ ” …” (Luke 14:21 – 24, NKJV)
Conclusion
The Charity Doctrine Lifestyle is not the Reason for Salvation but the Consequence and Proof of Salvation as these Verses Directly by Christ Himself Proves as it is Written. Yes, just before teaching these Charity Doctrine Verses in the same sermon (in Matthew 25:31 – 46), Christ Assured that these will surely come to pass in Matthew 24 itself:
“… Heaven and earth will pass away, BUT MY WORDS WILL BY NO MEANS PASS AWAY. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 24:35, NKJV)
In short, just like Holiness doesn’t save a Christian but Christ Saves them, similarly a Christian is not Saved by the Charity Doctrine either. However, just like a Saved Christian would exhibit holiness as evidence of Salvation, these Verses also clearly show that Christians would likewise show the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as the evidence of Salvation too.
Peace to you
Love in Action is a must = Charity Doctrine Lifestyle
Faith Working through Love Mystery – Faith that is Greatest is the one with the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle
Please consider these famous Verses to see this simple but Beautiful Biblical Truth:
“…. . 4You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. 5For we through the Spirit eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. 7You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. 9A little leaven leavens the whole lump. 10I have confidence in you, in the Lord, that you will have no other mind; but he who troubles you shall bear his judgment, whoever he is. 11And I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why do I still suffer persecution? Then the offense of the cross has ceased. 12I could wish that those who trouble you would even [c]cut themselves off! 13For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but THROUGH LOVE SERVE ONE ANOTHER. 14For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “You shall LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.” 15But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! …” (Galatians 5:14, NKJV)
Comments (someone said: let there be “Bible Verses” for each claim made of let there be “no claim made”):
1) The Command to Love is ‘not legalism’ or ‘saved by works doctrine’ but the “Doctrine of Faith Working through Love” which is all that matters in your race of faith
“… 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but FAITH WORKING THROUGH LOVE. 7You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? 8This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. …” (Galatians 5:6 – 7, NKJV)
2) If anyone doesn’t Teach this “Faith working through Love Doctrine” but some type of man-made legalism even with the “Law (Torah)”, it’s clearly NOT from Christ
“… 8This persuasion does not come from Him who calls you. …” (Galatians 5:8, NKJV)
3) “Faith working through Love” is evidenced not in feelings nor words only but rather manifests itself in “tangible actions” of SERVING ONE ANOTHER (where this phrase in the time when it was Written, no buildings nor churches exist but refers to the ‘believers living together & helping each other with this World’s Goods primarily as Church History would easily prove this even with New Testament Scripture, e.g. Acts 2:44 – 46, Acts 4:32)
“…13For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but THROUGH LOVE SERVE ONE ANOTHER. …” (Galatians 5:13, NKJV)
4) Living out this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle fulfills “All Law (Torah)”
“… 14For ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “You shall LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR AS YOURSELF.” …” (Galatians 5:14, NKJV)
Conclusion – Did Christ Teach it according to such a Context?
Please consider the ‘same phrase’ —> “… Love your neighbour as yourself …” which “fulfills All Law” (Galatians 5:14 links to Luke 10:28 next) and is the “Faith Working Through Love” (Galatians 5:6) via the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of “… THROUGH LOVE SERVE ONE ANOTHER. …” (Galatians 5:13) which is found in CHRIST’s OWN explanation in Verses below likewise as the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle done by the “… Good Samaritan …” which was the Work part of “… What to do to inherit Eternal Life? …” (Luke 10:25), to quote:
“… 25And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?” 26He said to him, “What is WRITTEN IN THE LAW? What is YOUR READING OF IT?” 27So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ ” 28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.” 29But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR?” 30Then JESUS ANSWERED and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had COMPASSION. 34So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and TOOK CARE OF HIM. 35On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘TAKE CARE OF HIM; and WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, when I come again, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:25 – 37, NKJV)
Remember, some of the modern protestants ignore this “Faith Working through Love” with “this world’s goods” Doctrine which is really dangerous and Preaching this keeps us in Touch with what even Blessed Martin Luther Taught as ‘missing from the rejected foolish 5 Virgins’ (and we can preach likewise and ‘not be unsaved nor be falsely accused to preach a works based salvation’ by those who struggle in their understanding of Scripture), to quote next.
Yes, Martin Luther Speaks only of one Good Work needed for Faith (which will be the Fruit of True Faith as the evidence of Salvation & not that we are Saved by Works) in his Conclusion of this Famous Sermon which is “not” fasting, prayer, church attendance etc. but “… Love God, Love Neighbor …” which is what the “Charity Doctrine” is as Christ Explained this “Love God, Love Neighbor” in Action to “inherit Eternal Life” (Luke 10:25 – 27) to refer to “The Parable of the Good Samaritan” as the “Charity Doctrine” answer (in Luke 10:29 – 37) making this claim Biblical & True in Context, to quote:
“… Therefore, let each one see to it that he has these two together: the OIL, which is TRUE FAITH and trust in Christ; and the LAMPS, the VESSEL, which is the OUTWARD SERVICE TOWARD YOUR NEIGHBOR. The WHOLE CHRISTIAN LIFE CONSISTS in THESE TWO THINGS things: BELIEVE GOD. HELP YOUR NEIGHBOR. The WHOLE GOSPEL TEACHES this. PARENTS should TELL IT TO THEIR CHILDREN at HOME and EVERYWHERE. Children, too, should CONSTANTLY FOSTER THIS WORD AMONG THEMSELVES. I should really say something about the sleep of the virgins and about the setting out of the Bridegroom for the wedding. But the hour is late. Another time. May God be gracious to us! Amen. …”- The First Champion of the Protestant Faith, Blessed Martin Luther’s Sermon which was translated in 2013 by the Rev. Paul A. Rydecki, On Faith and Good Works, Preached in Erfurt at St. Michaeliskirche on the Day of the 11,000 Virgins (October 21st), 1522)
Source: http://www.godwithuslc.org/luther-sermon-for-trinity-27/
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Last night a friend of mine asked me regarding the “Denied ones” in Matthew 7:13 – 24 to whom Christ says “… I never knew you …”. Generally, the Protestants point to the Roman Catholic/Orthodox while the Roman Catholic/Orthodox point to the Protestants. Some Protestants point it further to some other Protestants who are not part of their church or denomination as well.
Please let me share what I understand regarding these Verses as follows:
1) These Verses in full
“… 1“Judge[a] not, that you be not judged. 2For with what [b]judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. … 13“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. 15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT is cut down and THROWN INTO THE FIRE. 20Therefore by their fruits you will know them. “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we NOT PROPHESIED in Your name, CAST OUT DEMONS in Your name, and DONE MANY WONDERS in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’. 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN who BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:1 – 2, 13 – 24, NKJV)
2) Most Protestants will point to the “Fruit of the Spirit” as the Evidence of a “Good Tree”
“… 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23[g]gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. …” (Galatians 5:22 – 23, NKJV)
Note: “Judgment” is “not” one of the “Fruits of the Spirit” as the Context of Matthew 7’s denial verses first encompassed the Command/Choice to “… Judge not …” (Matthew 7:1 – 2) and so regarding things which we don’t know for example “Prophecies that has not come to pass” we can choose to ‘not Judge it before the Lord Comes’ as these Verses Reveal further:
“… Therefore JUDGE NOTHING BEFORE THE TIME, UNTIL THE LORD COMES, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God. 6Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be [c]puffed up on behalf of one against the other. 7For who [d]MAKES YOU DIFFER FROM ANOTHER? And what do you have that you did not receive? Now if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it? … 14I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. 15For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16Therefore I URGE YOU, IMITATE ME. 17For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH. …” (1 Corinthians 4:5 – 7, 14 – 17, NKJV)
Please notice that in Verses above, Apostle St. Paul clearly reveals the meaning of ‘not going beyond what is Written’ is evidenced not in a Church which teaches its interpretation of prophecies (as even protestant scholars don’t agree, e.g. Calvinism vs Armianism, Post trib vs Pre-Trib etc.) but rather points to a “Church which KEEPS the NEW TESTAMENT TRADITIONS” (e.g. 1 Corinthians 11 to 15 on this ‘same letter/context’) which is largely ignored only during these modern times.
The Acts of the Charity Doctrine are part of the “Fruit of the Spirit” as it encompasses “Goodness, love, long-suffering, gentleness and Kindness” against which there is “no Law”. The only Judgment allowed in the New Testament is ‘Warn them of sin’ but don’t judge them for it but rather execute “True Judgment” which is to “Forgive by showing MERCY and COMPASSION” instead, please allow me to repeat:
“… Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Execute TRUE JUDGMENT, and SHEW MERCY AND COMPASSIONS every man to his brother: …” (Zechariah 7:9, KJV)
3) Fruits Worthy of Repentance
The Context of “… 19Every tree that does NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT is cut down and THROWN INTO THE FIRE. …” (Matthew 7:19) by Christ’s Words is best to be understood in the Fore-Runner, St. John the Baptist’s words below as he quotes the similar phrase “… EVERY TREE which DOES NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT Is cut down and THROWN INTO THE FIRE …” (Luke 3:9) as referring to “… 8Therefore bear FRUITS WORTHY OF REPENTANCE, …” the first of which he clearly refers to the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE as described here as “… 11He answered and said to them, “HE WHO HAS TWO TUNICS, let him GIVE TO HIM WHO HAS NONE; and HE WHO HAS FOOD, LET HIM DO LIKEWISE. …” (Luke 3:11) below, in full:
“… 7Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him], “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8Therefore bear FRUITS WORTHY OF REPENTANCE, and do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. 9And even now the AX IS LAID TO THE ROOT OF THE TREES. Therefore EVERY TREE which DOES NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT Is cut down and THROWN INTO THE FIRE.” 10So the people asked him, saying, “What shall we do then?” 11He answered and said to them, “HE WHO HAS TWO TUNICS, let him GIVE TO HIM WHO HAS NONE; and HE WHO HAS FOOD, LET HIM DO LIKEWISE.” 12Then tax collectors also came to be baptized, and said to him, “Teacher, what shall we do?” 13And he said to them, “COLLECT NO MORE THAN WHAT IS APPOINTED FOR YOU.” 14Likewise the soldiers asked him, saying, “And what shall we do?” So he said to them, “DO NOT INTIMIDATE ANYONE or ACCUSE FALSELY, and BE CONTENT WITH YOUR WAGES. …” – Answers by Blessed St. John the Baptist, ForeRunner for Christ (Luke 3:7 – 14, NKJV)
Three “Fruits Worthy of Repentance” are mentioned in the above namely:
- Charity Doctrine Lifestyle (Luke 3:11)
- Truthful with money/wages lifestyle, no dirty money income (Luke 3:13)
iii. No false accusation and Contentment Doctrine as opposed to the ‘Prosperity Gospel’ (Luke 3:14)
There are other fruits but these are the “Lifestyle Fruits Worthy of Repentance” which are MAJOR because these are the ONLY ONES mentioned explicitly in the BIBLE proving its UTMOST importance. That’s why we focus to Preach ‘What is Written’ instead of men’s additions regarding these aspects.
4) The Rejected Works – Who are the MANY DENIED in Matthew 7:20 – 24?
Please notice carefully that the “Denied ones” are “MANY” (thus it must refer to a popular Christianity) and they are spoken to have these traits:
“… 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we NOT PROPHESIED in Your name, CAST OUT DEMONS in Your name, and DONE MANY WONDERS in Your name?’ …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ
Personally, I don’t judge who these might be but I am very very careful to take the “neutral position” whenever someone claims to have these gifts (“Prophecy, casting out demons and doing wonders/miracles”) and I personally do not comment either way to avoid accidentally endorsing a wrong person or disapproving a right person simply because I don’t know. However, a Denied Popular Christianity claiming these which is “Lawless” will do so and must exist around us now too as the Verse concludes:
“… 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’. 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN who BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:23 – 24, NKJV)
The Answer to avoid “lawlessness” and NOT be Denied is clearly Revealed in Verse above (Can you see it?) which is “…24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN who BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” which again is NOT doing ‘prophecy, miracles, casting out of demons etc.’ which is NOT commanded for every believer but His Commands of Love of the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle is in contrast as these Verses clearly Prove:
- Being “Born Again” is not described as Miracles, Speaking in Tongues, Understanding Prophecy as all that are “not” Commands because these Verses next Prove that these are Gifts which are Good but not the “Most Excellent Way of Agape (Love)” where “Love in Action is the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Commands”, Example Verses (which also proves that not all Christians have these Gifts but are still “Born Again”):
“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY [of Agape/Love]. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
- Christ Taught the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as the Way to Seek the Kingdom not because of the Money being anything but because only with Money (“Mammon”) one’s “heart” is “revealed”, Verses by Christ Directly with “no” human interpretations or manipulations:
“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. 36You are also to be like people who are waiting for their master when he RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST, so that they may immediately open the door for him when he comes and knocks. 37Blessed are those slaves whom the master will find on the alert when he comes; truly I say to you, that he will [z]prepare himself to serve, and have them recline at the table, and he will come up and serve them. 38Whether he COMES IN THE [AA]SECOND WATCH, or EVEN IN THE [AB]THIRD, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 38, NASB)
iii. Charity Doctrine is the Doctrine of Inward Sanctification (Cleansing the “heart/inside” from “greed” & “wickedness”) without which one only attains to ‘outward holiness’ as per the ‘foolish virgins’ (the word “virgins” signifying faith + outward holiness only) whilst missing on the ‘inward holiness/light within’, Verses:
“… [ 39Then the Lord said to him, ] “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)
“… Jesus’ saying appears, however, to be a Hebraic idiom that was used to describe a person’s outlook towards others. A person with a “good eye” (tov-ayin or ayin-tovah) was a person who looked at others with compassion and had a generous spirit, and gave to others as needed. The person with the evil eye (ayin ra’ah) is one who is stingy toward others and greedy with money. This expression is still used in Hebrew today. When people go through Jerusalem raising money, they say, “Please give with a good eye!” The same idiom is also found in Proverbs: “A generous man (Literally, “A good eye”) will be blessed, for he shares his food with the poor.” (Proverbs 22:9) Jesus also uses it at the end of the parable of the landowner who pays the workers all the same, no matter how long they work. The landowner says to the complainers, literally, “Is your eye evil (greedy) because I am good?” (Matthew 20:15). Understanding this idiom helps us understand the whole passage in Matthew 6 that begins with “Do not lay your treasures up on earth,” then talks about the good/evil eye, and then ends with “One cannot serve two masters – both God and money.” All three of these sayings are part of a greater teaching on having the right attitude toward money. …”
Source: https://engediresourcecenter.com/2015/06/30/tov-ayin-a-good-eye/
This Sanctification Fills “God’s Light” within us as Christ Himself Reveals in Verses below:
“… Let YOUR LIGHT SO SHINE before men, that they may see YOUR GOOD WORKS and glorify your Father in heaven. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:16, NKJV)
Please take note that Christ defines “the LIGHT” in “let YOUR LIGHT SHINE” before men as “YOUR GOOD WORKS” and so likewise the “LAMP” in the “Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins” must thus mean “Good Works” as per “Christ’s Words Defining His Own Words”, right?. Can you see it as it is Written in Verse above?
“… 14“YOU ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16Let YOUR LIGHT SO SHINE BEFORE MEN, that they may see YOUR GOOD WORKS and glorify your Father in heaven. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:14 – 16, NKJV)
Yes, the Case that the LAMPS LIT refers to those WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT of GOD TO DO the CHARITY DOCTRINE ACTS toward others is exactly what these JUDGMENT DAY CHARITY DOCTRINE ACTS of FEEDING THE HUNGRY, THIRSTY, CLOTHING THE NAKED and WELCOMING the STRANGER to your HOUSE is when Matthew 25:1 – 13 is understood with Matthew 25:31 – 46 as it wis Written clearly proving this Context with Scripture as it is Written in “Consecutive Verses” (Same Topic/Same Topic) too.
- God Will Judge us based on how we use our money in this life as that Reveals who is a True Christian vs a Fake Christian according to Christ Directly as follows:
“… 9“And I say to you, MAKE FRIENDS FOR YOURSELVES by UNRIGHTEOUS [D]MAMMON, that when [e]you fail, they may receive you into an EVERLASTING HOME. 10He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. 11Therefore IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN FAITHFUL IN THE UNRIGHTEOUS MAMMON, WHO WILL COMMIT TO YOUR TRUST THE TRUE RICHES? 12And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own? 13“No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:9 – 13, NKJV)
In another translation for easier English to understand it more clearly:
“… 9Here’s the lesson: USE YOUR WORLDLY RESOURCES to BENEFIT OTHERS AND MAKE FRIENDS. Then, when your possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an ETERNAL HOME. 10“If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. But if you are dishonest in little things, you won’t be honest with greater responsibilities. 11And IF YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY ABOUT WORLDLY WEALTH, who will trust you with the TRUE RICHES OF HEAVEN? 12And if you are not faithful with other people’s things, why should you be trusted with things of your own? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:9 – 12, NLT)
So Preaching His Direct Written Words makes “no” heretics and please be careful of those who preach what is “not” Written especially in regards to “His Commands” because that part is not an option as per the Great Commission’s “… 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; …” Part:
“… 18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. …” (Matthew 28:18 – 20, NKJV)
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https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161249559847784/
- Commandments of God Mystery – Not Prophecy Miracles or anything else
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161236361402784/
- Unsolved Mystery – Is there Possible Gospel Hope for some Unbelieving Non Christians if Hell is Eternal?
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161205058267784/
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Daniel 12:3 Mystery – Firmaments Glory Vs the Glory of the Stars
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161253065962784/
Many Christians are “not” aware that there are two different Versions of Daniel 12:3 and no one can say for certain which is the “Original”, to quote:
1) Daniel 12:3 based on the “Masoretic” Text
“… Those who are wise shall shine Like the brightness of the firmament, And those who turn many to righteousness Like the stars forever and ever. …” (Daniel 12:3, NKJV)
Source: https://biblehub.com/daniel/12-3.htm
2) Daniel 12:3 based on the “Septuagint”
“… 3And the wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament, and some of the many righteous as the stars for ever and ever. …” (Daniel 12:3, Brenton Septuagint Translation, LXX)
Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/daniel/12.htm
Now, do these differences make any significant impact on our Theological understanding? Please consider the following points:
- Both the Daniel 12:3’s agree regarding the “Wise” shining like the “Brightness of the Firmament (“Heavens”)”. So this part is 100% Original Scripture.
- The second part of Daniel 12:3 speaks of shining like the “Stars”. Any regular Bible Scholar would easily point to you that shining like the “Stars” here is “lesser in Glory” than the “Shining like the Heavens (Firmament) part” as described regarding the first group of Righteous that are called “Wise”.
- It seems more times the “Septuagint” was quoted word to word in the New Testament as more accurate than the “Masoretic” which is discussed in detail in link below with proofs:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10159572480257784/
- So regardless whether the second part of Daniel 12:3 refers to “those who convert many” (Masoretic) or whether it refers to “some of the righteous” (Septuagint) who shine like “stars”, it’s a “lesser” Glory than being “Wise” which is compared (in both the “Masoretic” and “Septuagint”) as shining like the “Firmament (Heavens)”.
This is “not” my biased opinion as even this First Christianity Quote Explains this position clearly commenting on Daniel 12:3 likewise:
“… Verses 1-3. “But at that time shall Michael rise up, the great prince, who stands for the children of thy people, and a time shall come such as never occurred from the time that nations began to exist even unto that time. And at that time shall thy people be saved, even everyone who shall be found written in the book. And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some unto life everlasting, and others unto reproach, that they may behold it always. But THOSE WHO ARE INSTRUCTED SHALL SHINE AS THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE FIRMAMENT; and they that INSTRUCT MANY AS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS, AS THE STARS FOR ALL ETERNITY.” Up until this point Porphyry somehow managed to maintain his position and impose upon the credulity of the naive [reading imperitis for imperitus] among our adherents as well as the poorly educated among his own. But what can he say of this chapter, in which is described the resurrection of the dead, with one group being revived for eternal life and the other group for eternal disgrace? He CANNOT EVEN SPECIFY WHO THE PEOPLE were under Antiochus WHO SHONE LIKE THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE FIRMAMENT, AND THOSE OTHERS WHO SHONE LIKE THE STARS FOR ALL ETERNITY. … BUT THE TEACHERS SHALL RESEMBLE THE VERY HEAVENS, and THOSE WHO HAVE INSTRUCTED OTHERS SHALL BE COMPARED TO THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE STARS. For it is not enough to know wisdom unless one also instructs others; and the tongue of instruction which remains silent and edifies no one else can receive no reward for labor accomplished. This passage is expressed by Theodo-tion and the Vulgate edition [of the Septuagint] in the following |147 fashion: “And those who understand shall shine forth like the radiance of the firmament, and many of the righteous like the stars forever and ever.” MANY PEOPLE OFTEN ASK whether a LEARNED SAINT AND AN ORDINARY SAINT shall both enjoy the SAME REWARD AND ONE AND THE SAME DWELLING-PLACE IN HEAVEN. Well then, the statement is made here, according to Theodotion’s rendering, that THE LEARNED WILL RESEMBLE THE VERY HEAVENS, whereas THE RIGHTEOUS WHO ARE WITHOUT LEARNING are ONLY COMPARED TO THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE STARS. And so the difference between LEARNED GODLINESS and MERE GODLY RUSTICITY SHALL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HEAVEN AND THE STARS. …” – Blessed St. Jerome of the Vulgate, Second Latin Doctor of the Church who did the First Official Translation of the Bible out of Its Original Languages into Latin, Priest, Confessor, Secretary to Pope Damasus I (c. 347 AD – c. 420 AD, Commentary of Daniel 12:3)
Source: https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/jerome_daniel_02_text.htm
Hence it’s more important to be “Wise” than to “Convert Many” or worse still lead many to basic righteousness say without God’s “Greatest Commands of Loving the Almighty and Loving others as oneself” (Mark 12:29 – 31) or to disobey New Testament Commands (e.g. 1 Corinthians 14:37, 2 Peter 3:2) and to Practice these “Perfection of Christ’s Commands” which are clearly toward the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” (e. g. Matthew 19:21 – 24) as even the “Parable of the Good Samaritan” (Luke 10:25 – 37) by Christ Reveals how to Love God and our neighbors as ourselves with the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as the Second is the Proof of the First as 1 John 4:20 and 1 John 3:16 – 18 teach and is confirmed by Christ that any ‘Doctrine of Sanctification’ Taught without “Almsgiving/Charity Doctrine” is FOOLISH in His Words below and hence these cannot fully refer to the “Wise” in Daniel 12:3, right? Verse:
“… [ 39Then the Lord said to him, ] “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)
Note: Please notice that “Alms = CHARITY DOCTRINE” and Blessed Apostle St. Paul did it for “Purification” (Doctrine of Sanctification) in Verses below:
“… 14But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I WORSHIP THE GOD OF MY FATHERS, BELIEVING ALL THINGS which are WRITTEN IN THE LAW AND IN THE PROPHETS. 15I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection [e]of the dead, both of the just and the unjust. 16This being so, I myself always strive to have a conscience without offense toward God and men. 17“NOW AFTER MANY YEARS I CAME to BRING ALMS AND OFFERINGS TO MY NATION, 18in the midst of which some Jews from Asia FOUND ME PURIFIED IN THE TEMPLE, neither with a mob nor with tumult. 19They ought to have been here before you to object if they had anything against me. 20Or else let those who are here themselves say [f]if they found any wrongdoing in me while I stood before the council, 21unless it is for this one statement which I cried out, standing among them, ‘Concerning the resurrection of the dead I am being judged by you this day.’ ” …” – Blessed St. Paul the Great Apostle of Christ (Acts of the Apostles, 24:14 – 21, NKJV)
Even in the ‘Context of the Book of Prophet Daniel’, the “Wisdom” that “Prophet Daniel possessed” which was unique to him as compared to other prophets who didn’t write about this aspect so clearly includes this “Charity Doctrine” as the “Doctrine of Sanctification” as part of Repentance as follows, Verse:
“… Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and BREAK OFF THY SINS BY RIGHTEOUSNESS, and THINE INIQUITIES BY SHEWING MERCY TO THE POOR; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity. …” – Blessed Prophet Daniel (Daniel 4:27, KJV based on the Masoretic Text)
Source: https://biblehub.com/daniel/4-27.htm
Compare:
” … 27Therefore, O king, let my counsel please thee, and ATONE FOR THY SINS BY ALMS, and THINE INIQUITIES BY COMPASSION ON THE POOR: it may be God will be long-suffering to thy trespasses.” … – Blessed Prophet Daniel (Daniel 4:27, Brenton Septuagint Translation, based on the Septuagint or LXX)
Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/daniel/4.htm
More Charity Doctrine and His Commands Details in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161249559847784/
Note: No one went to Hell for the reason of obeying & preaching the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Taught by Christ Himself Directly (in Luke 11:39 – 41 quoted earlier) as it was even practiced by the ‘original grace alone preacher, Apostle St. Paul himself’ in Acts 24:14 – 21 earlier. So may God’s Grace lead us to Preach His Greatest Truths “Wisely” so that we may be called to “Shine” brightly as the “Firmament/Heavens” if God Wills or at least point to those better than us who may rise to it by His Mercy.
“… 40There are also [g]celestial bodies and [h]terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41There is ONE GLORY OF THE SUN, another glory of the moon, and ANOTHER GLORY OF THE STARS; for ONE STAR DIFFERS FROM ANOTHER STAR IN GLORY. 42So ALSO IS THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD …” (1 Corinthians 15:40 – 42, NKJV)
Peace to you
What are the Direct Commands of Christ recorded in the Gospel?
I like the breakdown done by this particular anonymous author in quote below:
“…. Jesus commanded many things but they can be summarized in the seven major commands that these studies deal with. They are:
1) Repent, believe and receive the Holy Spirit (these three essentials for salvation go together; one cannot do any of them without the other two. For example, one cannot have heart-felt repentance without the conviction of the Holy Spirit, being born again of the Spirit.
2) Be baptized
3) Love (love God and neighbor in practical ways, forgiving enemies and showing mercy to the needy)
4) Break bread (Communion)
5) Pray (this includes all aspects of spiritual warfare)
6) Give (this includes all aspects of Christian stewardship)
7) Make disciples (this includes teaching the Word, shepherding and sending workers to neglected peoples) …”
Source:
http://peopleofyes.com/mm/files/MAJOR_COMMANDS_OF_CHRIST.htm
Please note that each aspect is described well in link above. For example:
“… Study VII. LOVE (Luke 10:25-37)
(Command # 3)
Jesus’ most important command is to love God with all our heart and our neighbor as ourselves.
In Luke 10:25-37 Jesus helps an expert in the Jewish law understand that knowing the law and doing it can be two different things. Please read it now.
Questions:
How did the expert in the Jewish law summarize the law’s requirements?(v.27)
Did Jesus agree with His answer? According to Jesus, what would be the results of doing these things?(v.28)
Why did the man ask “who is my neighbor?” (v.29)
In the story, what was the occupation of the two men who left the hurting man? Should they have known the law?
Do you know who Samaritans were in the days of Jesus? They were social outcasts. Why do you think Jesus used a Samaritan in this story in contrast to the religious leaders?
Who was the true neighbor? Did being a “neighbor” cost the Samaritan anything? What?
What was Jesus’ instructions to the expert in the law when the story was over?(v.37)
How can we apply this to our lives today? Think ahead. What type of sacrifices may need to be made to walk in such love? Name them.
Have you seen in your own life that merely KNOWING what the scripture teaches and DOING IT can be two very different things? What word did Jesus use (in Luke 12:1) to describe those who talked one way and lived another? Are you committed to “Go and DO LIKEWISE” as Jesus instructed the expert in the law?
Can you foresee that sometimes choices of sacrificial love will involve a battle with your own desires? What practical things can be done to help us overcome the enemy?
…
Study IX. GIVE (Mark 12:41-44)
(Command # 5)
Jesus’ fifth major command is to pray. He shows in Mark 12:41-44 that our giving is not measured by the dollar amount we give to His kingdom but rather by our wholeheartedness in our giving. Please read it now.
Questions:
Who was watching as the crowds put their offering into the temple treasury?(v.41)
Who gave the large amounts of money?
Who gave the small amount? What was the monetary worth of her coins?
Do you think this amount helped significantly in the upkeep of the temple? Would this small offering be honored and praised in the eyes of men? Which offerings that day were most likely noticed by men?
Who did Jesus call to him to show them what he saw?(v.43)
Whose offering was most significant to Jesus? According to Jesus, who gave the biggest offering that day? Why?
In this passage does Jesus say that we must each give away our last penny? Are we made right with God by the amount we give to Him? What then is the point of this illustration?
Are you committed to live wholeheartedly for the Lord, offering all that you have to Him for His kingdom?
Have you ever stopped to think about how much you give to the growth of Christ’s kingdom? Is it your best? Is it wholehearted? Would the Lord take notice, as He did with the widow? …”
Source:
http://peopleofyes.com/mm/files/MAJOR_COMMANDS_OF_CHRIST.htm
Conclusion
Most of Christ’s Commands relate to the Charity Doctrine Commands such as “Give/Share” via “Love in Action” where giving or sharing with the rich/or those who have or can afford it is not counted (in Principle, as this type of giving is what some practice) as this Verse from Him reminds us as follows:
“…12Then He also said to him who invited Him, “When you give a dinner or a supper, do not ask your friends, your brothers, your relatives, NOR RICH NEIGHBORS, lest they also invite you back, and you be repaid. 13But when you give a feast, INVITE the POOR, THE MAIMED, THE LAME, THE BLIND. 14And you will be BLESSED, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be REPAID at the RESURRECTION OF THE JUST.” …” (Luke 14:12 – 14, NKJV)
Another type of love is those who practice it only toward their “family, friends, those of the same race and those within the same belief system for example same denomination or same church only” which contradicts Christ’s Famous Questions below regarding ‘such love’ as it may not fulfill “His Commands of Love”, Verses:
“… 32“But IF YOU LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:32, NKJV)
“… WHAT DO YOU DO MORE THAN OTHERS? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:47, NKJV)
“… 33And IF YOU DO GOOD TO THOSE WHO DO GOOD TO YOU, WHAT CREDIT IS THAT TO YOU? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:33, NKJV)
Why did Christ Command “Love or Giving in Action” (the Çharity Doctrine Commands)? Because
1) It fulfills all Law
“… For all the law (Torah) is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” …” (Galatians 5:14, NKJV)
2) Your sins are covered from Judgment if you love
“… And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “LOVE will COVER a MULTITUDE OF SINS.” …”(1 Peter 4:8, NKJV)
“… Therefore I say to you, HER SINS, which are MANY, ARE FORGIVEN, for SHE LOVED MUCH. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 7:47, NKJV)
3) The Emulation of the Greatest Love of Christ is Described as “laying the life for the Brethren” in the Context of Doing the Charity Doctrine with this world’s goods (i.e. with actual physical bodily needs things), Verses:
“… 13Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. 14You are My friends if you do whatever I command you. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 15:13 – 14, NKJV)
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, AND SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, and shuts up his heart from him, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE in HIM? 18My little children, let us not LOVE IN WORD OR IN TONGUE, but IN DEED AND IN TRUTH. …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
Re-emphasis: The Greatest Love of Christ as He Died for our sins can be emulated as equivalent to Martyrdom (the phrase “lay down our lives for the brethren” in Verses above) as the Charity Doctrine Act of sharing this World’s Goods because ‘one’s life is at risk or spent out each time one gives freely’ as that’s ‘laying down our lives’.
“… And now abide FAITH, HOPE, LOVE, these three; but the GREATEST OF THESE IS LOVE. … ” (1 Corinthians 13:13, NKJV)
Zeal for God but without Knowledge (regarding “His Commands”) may not count for much especially for being “Wise”, Verse (quoted in Principle):
“… For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge. …” (Romans 10:2, NKJV)
Why is being “Wise” in regards to “His Commands” important? It’s discussed in link below for edification:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161253065962784
Peace to you
Born Again Mystery – Are We Born Again?
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161249559847784/
The Definition (“Context”) of being “Born Again” in Verses below (in image too) is OBEYING THE WORD OF GOD (referring to “Obeying His Commands”, hence any “New Testament Commands”) to PURIFY OUR SOULS which manifests in the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE OF LOVING ONE ANOTHER IN ACTION DEEPLY as Verses below describe so clearly:
“… 22Since you have PURIFIED YOUR SOULS in OBEYING THE TRUTH [i]THROUGH THE SPIRIT in [j]SINCERE LOVE OF THE BRETHREN, LOVE ONE ANOTHER fervently with a pure heart, 23HAVING BEEN BORN AGAIN, not of [k]corruptible seed but [l]incorruptible, THROUGH THE WORD OF GOD which lives and abides [m]forever, 24because “All flesh is as grass, And all [n]the glory of man as the flower of the grass. The grass withers, And its flower falls away, 25But the [o]WORD OF THE LORD endures forever.” Now THIS IS THE WORD which by THE GOSPEL was PREACHED to you. …” (1Peter 1:22 – 25, NKJV)
So, being “Born Again” is Described in the Definition above as “Obeying His Commands especially those Commands of Love in Action”.
Yes, being “Born Again” is not described as Miracles, Speaking in Tongues, Understanding Prophecy as all that are “not” Commands because these Verses next Prove that these are Gifts which are Good but not the “Most Excellent Way of Agape (Love)” where “Love in Action is the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Commands”, Example Verses (which also proves that not all Christians have these Gifts but are still “Born Again”):
“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY [of Agape/Love]. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
Note: The Verse above (1 John 3:16 – 18) clearly links the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle with this World’s Goods” literally, tangibly via sharing/giving as the “Proof of KNOWING AGAPE (Love of God)”.
Comment: Even in “Judgment Day” Verses, Christ only Asks about what one did to the “… Hungry, Thirsty, Naked, Homeless etc. …” which are Çharity Doctrine Acts without which any idealogy/conversions doesn’t work or don’t matter in Matthew 25:31 – 46 clearly. Christ also clearly defines “His Sheep” to possess these Çharity Doctrine Act Qualities clearly.
The Sign of the Holy Spirit is this according to Verse below: No one can keep (obey) these Commands unless the Holy Spirit Enables them:
“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)
Source Post for this part (further details):
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161236361402784/
Why is being “Born Again” is important?
Because without it we cannot enter the Kingdom of God, Verses:
“… 3Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born [a]again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” 4Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” 5Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.” …” (John 3:3 – 6, NKJV)
Peace to you
Commandments of God Mystery – Not Prophecy Miracles or anything else
More “Commandments” of the “Lord” as per “New Testament” we “Keep” (“obey”), the Closer to God we Come, Verses:
“… 19“A little while longer and the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live also. 20At that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you. 21He who has MY COMMANDMENTS AND KEEPS THEM, it is HE WHO LOVES ME. And HE WHO LOVES ME will be LOVED BY MY FATHER, and I WILL LOVE HIM and [f]MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 14:19 – 21, NKJV)
“… 19Whoever therefore BREAKS one of the least of THESE COMMANDMENTS, and teaches men so, shall be called LEAST in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN; but whoever DOES AND TEACHES THEM, he shall be called GREAT in the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 20For I say to you, that unless YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS EXCEEDS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by NO MEANS ENTER THE KINGDOM of HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:19 – 21, NKJV)
Here are a few comments:
1) The missing part of the Great Commission is Teaching His “Commands” (not Prophecy or other things which are secondary to His “Commands”) as the phrase “…20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; …” means below:
“… 18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. …” (Matthew 28:18 – 20, NKJV)
“… 46“But WHY DO YOU CALL ME ‘LORD, LORD,’ and NOT DO THE THINGS WHICH I SAY? 47Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:46 – 48, NKJV)
2) Making Conversions without teaching them to obey Christ’s Commands causes an End time Christianity to be Denied though it converted “Many”
“… 14Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. … 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER in heaven. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we NOT PROPHESIED in Your name, CAST OUT DEMONS in Your name, and DONE MANY WONDERS in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS!’. 24“Therefore WHOEVER HEARS THESE SAYINGS OF MINE, and DOES THEM, I will liken him to a WISE MAN who BUILT HIS HOUSE ON THE ROCK: …” – Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:14, 21 – 23, 24, NKJV)
3) The Greatest Command is to Love God and followed by Love your neighbor as yourself which is nothing else than the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ in Christ’s Own Most Blessed Words below – hence Doctrinal Focus must be in Fulfilling these Greatest Commands without which there may be Lawless Conversions
“… 29JESUS answered him, “The [k]first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [l]This is the first commandment. 31And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is NO OTHER COMMANDMENT GREATER THAN THESE.” …” (Mark 12:29 – 31, NKJV)
“… 25And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?” 26He said to him, “What is WRITTEN IN THE LAW? What is YOUR READING OF IT?” 27So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ ” 28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.” 29But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR?” 30Then JESUS ANSWERED and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had COMPASSION. 34So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and TOOK CARE OF HIM. 35On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘TAKE CARE OF HIM; and WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, when I come again, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:25 – 37, NKJV)
“… 9and when James, [c]Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. 10They desired only that we should remember the poor, the very thing which I also was eager to do. …”(Galatians 2:9 – 11, NKJV)
Comment: Teach the Charity Doctrine (Galatians 2:10). Focus phrase for this part which we emphasize here: “… 10They [the PILLARS, APOSTLES, Galatians 2:9] DESIRED ONLY that we should REMEMBER THE POOR, the very thing which I also was eager to do. …” – Blessed St. Paul, Apostle of Christ to the Gentiles (Galatians 2:7 – 10, NKJV)
5) Miracles, Speaking in Tongues, Understanding Prophecy all that are “not” Commands because these Verses Prove that these are Gifts which are Good but not the “Most Excellent Way of Agape (Love)” where “Love in Action is the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Commands”, Example Verses:
“… 27Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. 28And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are ALL WORKERS OF MIRACLES? 30DO ALL HAVE GIFTS OF HEALINGS? DO ALL SPEAK WITH TONGUES? Do all interpret? 31But earnestly desire the [i]best gifts. And YET I SHOW YOU A MORE EXCELLENT WAY [of Agape/Love]. …” (1 Corinthians 12:27 – 30, NKJV)
“… 16By this WE KNOW LOVE, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
Note: The Verse above (1 John 3:16 – 18) clearly links the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle with this World’s Goods” literally, tangibly via sharing/giving as the “Proof of KNOWING AGAPE (Love of God)”.
Comment: Even in “Judgment Day” Verses, Christ only Asks about what one did to the “… Hungry, Thirsty, Naked, Homeless etc. …” which are Çharity Doctrine Acts without which any idealogy/conversions doesn’t work or don’t matter in Matthew 25:31 – 46 clearly. Christ also clearly defines “His Sheep” to possess these Çharity Doctrine Act Qualities clearly.
The Sign of the Holy Spirit is this according to Verse below: No one can keep (obey) these Commands unless the Holy Spirit Enables them:
“… 13HOLD FAST The PATTERN OF SOUND WORDS which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 14That good thing which was committed to you, KEEP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT who dwells in us. …” (2 Timothy 1:13 – 14, NKJV)
In fact, “Charity Doctrine” (the ‘Sell what you have and Give to the Poor’ part in Verses below) is the Command of God toward “Perfection” and ‘not Miracles, etc.’ which CHRIST ANSWERED toward a Rich Man who kept the Torah but still “Lacked in these” which makes the’… first last, and the last first …”as ít is Written, Verses:
“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?” 21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS.23Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. … 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” … 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, 27 – 30, NKJV)
Conclusion
Equal Measure for every Christian is to obey any “Written New Testament Commands only”, yes Obeying or following the Apostolic WRITTEN TRADITIONS of the NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS which were delivered as the “First Works” of the Church, Example Verses:
“… If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I WRITE to you are the COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD. …” (1 Corinthians 14:37, NKJV)
“… that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the COMMANDMENT of us, the APOSTLES OF THE LORD and SAVIOR, …” (2 Peter 3:2, NKJV)
“… that you may learn in us NOT TO THINK BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN, that none of you may be [c]puffed up on behalf of one against the other. … 14I do not write these things to shame you, but as my beloved children I warn you. 15For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. 16Therefore I URGE YOU, IMITATE ME. 17For this reason I have sent Timothy to you, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord, who will remind you of my ways in Christ, as I TEACH EVERYWHERE IN EVERY CHURCH. …” (1 Corinthians 4:4, 14 – 17, NKJV)
Peace to you
Safe Route Scripturally – “Good Works” Doctrine in the Doctrine of Election and Predestination via John Wycliffe the Morning Star of the Reformation
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161233812667784
Firstly, very few Christians know that the 2 Peter 1:10 Verse has two types namely one that contains the phrase “Good Works” and one that does not according to the Manuscript they choose to translate from, example differing translations:
- i) The KJV translation is “missing” this “Good Works” phrase
“… Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: …” (2 Peter 1:10, KJV)
- ii) The Catholic Douay-Rheims Bible has this phrase
“… Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by GOOD WORKS you may MAKE SURE YOUR CALLING and ELECTION. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time. …” (2 Peter 1:10, Douay-Rheims Bible)
Source for both: https://biblehub.com/2_peter/1-10.htm
iii) Is there any Protestant Bibles containing the “Good Works” phrase for this same Verse?
Reason: (Because some protestants will argue that they only follow KJV and the Catholic Bibles are corrupted NOT realizing that the ‘Greek Manuscripts’ from which the KJV is translated from is also preserved by these same Catholic/Orthodox – so what proof is there that these are not corrupted instead as opposed to the other variants?)
Comment: Please notice also that the KJV-only movement also frequently falsely accuses say the NIV or NASB Bibles to “have missing phrases or Verses”. The truth is they are translating from different variant manuscripts some of which are older chiefly upon the recent 20th century “Dead Sea Scrolls” discovery which was not available at the time the KJV was Written. I mean, they are translating as honestly as they can to show these variants versions and some Bible translators mix it up and so it’s okay if we understand this. So if we take the KJV approach of “if one of the manuscripts contain more words” then that “must be the Original”, the KJV translators thus missed the manuscripts which contains the phrase “… BY YOUR GOOD WORKS …” in 2 Peter 1:10, right?
Anyway interestingly, this First Protestant Champion of Faith regarding Bible Translation, Blessed John Wycliffe himself translated 2 Peter 1:10 to include this “… BY YOUR GOOD WORKS …” in 2 Peter 1:10 few hundred years before the KJV translation itself, to quote:
“… 10 Wherefore, brethren, be ye more busy [more busy ye], that BY GOOD WORKS YE MAKE YOUR CALLING and CHOOSING CERTAIN; for ye doing these things shall not do sin any time [soothly ye doing these things, shall not sin any time]. 11 For thus the entering into [the] everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, shall be ministered to you plenteously. …” – Blessed John Wycliffe’s Translation of 2 Peter 1:10 – 11, where John Wycliffe is Nicknamed the “Morning Star of the Reformation”, (2 Peter 1:10 – 11, Wycliffe Bible in modern English)
Source:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Peter%201&version=WYC
Note: Who was “John Wycliffe”? To quote:
“… John Wycliffe (/ˈwɪklɪf/; also spelled Wyclif, Wickliffe, and other variants; c. 1320s – 31 December 1384)[2] was an English scholastic philosopher, theologian, biblical translator, reformer, priest, and a seminary professor at the University of Oxford. He became an influential dissident within the Roman Catholic priesthood during the 14th century and is considered an important predecessor to Protestantism. Wycliffe questioned the privileged status of the clergy which had bolstered their powerful role in England and the luxury and pomp of local parishes and their ceremonies. … Wycliffe’s later followers, derogatorily called Lollards by their orthodox contemporaries in the 15th and 16th centuries, adopted many of the beliefs attributed to Wycliffe such as theological virtues, predestination, iconoclasm, and the notion of caesaropapism, while questioning the veneration of saints, the sacraments, requiem masses, transubstantiation, monasticism, and the legitimacy of the Papacy …”
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wycliffe
Note: Looking at Wycliffe’s translation itself clearly point to “Good Works” as the “Fruit” without which such fake Christians may be “unsaved” as Taught Extensively in First Christianity (based on this Verse in 2 Peter 1:10) as I have discussed in previous posts.
“… 13“Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14[c]Because narrow is the gate and [d]difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. 15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Therefore by their fruits you will know them. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:13 – 20, NKJV)
Just because a “Majority Manuscript” has a verse that it shorter doesn’t necessarily mean that that’s the original as the KJV approach follows in this case. It can be that this is the full original and a copyist accidentally removed that phrase. Example of possible KJV-removal of Bible Verses may be seen in link below likewise:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/biblicallyliterate/2017/10/the-king-james-bible-removed-verses/
No one knows for sure but regardless even this Protestant website proves that “Good Works in Practice” Theology is the Proof of Salvation primarily referring to the CHARITY DOCTRINE ACTS of ‘… When I was hungry, naked, thirsty, homeless, …’ (so Preaching Matthew 25:31 – 46 is DOCTRINE REGARDLESS in CHRIST’S WORDS), to quote:
“… For if ye do these things — If ye be careful and diligent to work out your own salvation, through the grace which ye have already received from God ye shall never fall, ουμηπταισητε ποτε, ye shall at no time stumble or fall; as the Jews have done, and lost their election, Romans 11:11, where the same word is used, and as apostates do, and lose their peace and salvation. We find, therefore, that they who do not these things shall fall; and thus we see that there is nothing absolute and unconditional in their election. There is an addition here in some MSS. and versions which should not pass unnoticed: the Codex Alexandrinus, nine others, with the Syriac, Erpen’s Arabic, Coptic, AEthiopic, Armenian, later Syriac with an asterisk, the Vulgate, and Bede, have ιναδιατωνκαλων (υμων) εργων, THAT BY (your) GOOD WORKS ye may make your calling and election firm. This clause is found in the edition of Colinaeus, Paris, 1534, and has been probably omitted by more recent editors on the supposition that the edition does not make a very orthodox sense. But on this ground there need be no alarm, for it does not state that the good works thus required merit either the calling and election, or the eternal glory, of God. He who does not by good works confirm his calling and election, will soon have neither; and although no good works ever did purchase or ever can purchase the kingdom of God, yet no soul can ever scripturally expect to see God who has them not. I was hungry, and ye gave me no meat; thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: go, ye cursed. I was hungry, and ye gave me meat; c., &c. come, ye blessed. …” – Study Light Commentary on 2 Peter 1:10
Source: https://www.studylight.org/commentary/2-peter/1-10.html
Summary:
The following explanation below is via Mr. Ron R. D. from whose writing below I learnt this, to quote:
‘… A consideration of variant versions of 2 PETER 1:10.
The following versions of 2 PTR. 1:10 are translations from Aramaic or Syriac into English (with years published):
Etheridge (1849)
Upon this the more, my brethren, be careful, that by your good works your
calling & your election you may confirm. For, while you do these, you will never lapse.
Murdock (1852)
And therefore, my brethren, be ye exceedingly diligent to make your calling & election sure, by your good actions. For, by so doing, ye will never fall away.
Lamsa (1947)
For this very reason, my brethren, be diligent. For through your good deeds, you make your calling & your election sure. And when you do these things, you shall never fall.
For comparison, here is the KJV:
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling & election sure. For if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.
The phrase “through good works” is missing from the KJV of 2 PTR. 1:10; as it is missing from most English Bibles. The KJV & most English Bibles are translated almost exclusively from Greek Bibles.
Here is the Rheims version:
Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling & election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time.
Most Catholic commentators agree that the “sin” in that translation is the mortal sin of absolute apostasy. Some say it is any mortal sin. A mortal sin is a “sin unto death”, as mentioned in…
1 JOHN 5:16
If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, & He shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death. I do not say that he shall pray for it.
The Douay-Rheims Bible was translated from Jerome’s Latin Vulgate. So was Wycliffe’s Bible, which was completed in 1384.
Wycliffe’s version of 2 PTR. 1:10 is shown here:
Wherfor, britheren, be ye more bisi, that by goode werkis ye make youre clepyng and chesyng certeyn;
Here is 2 PTR. 1:10 as it appears in Jerome’s Latin Vulgate:
Quapropter fratres, magis satagite ut per bona opera certam vestram vocationem, et electionem faciatis : hæc enim facientes, non peccabitis aliquando.
The Latin agrees with the Aramaic; & so does the Greek Codex Sinaiticus (dated 330 – 360), as shown here:
διο μαλλον αδελφοι ϲπουδαϲατε
ϊνα δια των καλων εργων
βεβαιαν ϋμων την κληϲιν και ἐκλογὴν ποιειϲθαι ταυτα γαρ ποιουντεϲ ου μη πτεϲητε ποτε
Greek Codex Alexandrinus (dated 400 – 440) also agrees with the Aramaic & Latin, as shown here:
διὸ μᾶλλον, ἀδελφοί, σπουδάσατε
‘ίνα δια των καλων ‘ύμων ’εργων
βεβαίαν ὑμῶν τὴν παρακλῆσιν καὶ ἐκλογὴν ποιεῖσθε· ταῦτα γὰρ ποιοῦντες οὐ μὴ πταίσητέ·
But most later Greek manuscripts leave out
‘ινα δια των καλων ’εργων
and just show this text:
διὸ μᾶλλον, ἀδελφοί, σπουδάσατε βεβαίαν ὑμῶν τὴν κλῆσιν καὶ ἐκλογὴν ποιεῖσθαι· ταῦτα γὰρ ποιοῦντες οὐ μὴ πταίσητέ ποτε·
Please note that Greek has regional & generational variations in spelling, punctuation, & the shape of some letters. But for a language that is almost 3000 years old, these variations are surprisingly few & minor.
Was the phrase “through good works” part of the original text or was it a later addition? The answer to that question depends on the answer to this question: was the addition or omission accidental or deliberate?
If the phrase was added later, its addition could not have been an accident.
Anyone who would change the words of the Bible by deliberately adding that phrase to that verse, would have added a similar “good works” phrase to as many other NT verses where it would seem to contextually fit. But this was not done. Nowhere else in NT Greek manuscript history do we see another “good works” addition. Therefore, it is almost impossible that the phrase is a deliberate addition.
If the “good works” phrase was part of the original text but someone later knowingly omitted it when making a copy of the Bible, such a person would also remove similar “good works” phrases throughout the NT. But, nowhere else in NT Greek manuscript history is there another “good works” omission. Some early Greek NT manuscripts leave out the entire EPISTLE OF JAMES, but this was when the NT Canon had not yet been universally established by the majority of Catholic bishops & JAMES was still disputed by some. So it was not a case of textual manipulation because even those who disputed JAMES did not rewrite or change it to suit themselves. So the most likely (if not only) option left is that the “good works” phrase was part of the original text but someone accidentally omitted it while handwriting a copy. This handwritten copy with the accidental omission was probably copied later by others who didn’t know the original text & didn’t notice the change.
For contextual emphasis, I include & conclude with the subsequent verse:
2 PTR. 1:11
For in this way there will be abundantly provided for you an entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ. …’ – Mr. Ron R.D.
Peace to you
Not every Outward Good Works may be Good – Charity Doctrine via Dirty Money
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161233972417784/
Charity Doctrine doesn’t work if gangsters do it as the source of money itself is sin or has lower value (as per image, let God Judge but that’s my view).
However, are the legalised income in the most innocent jobs clean either? I mean, some could be businesses approved due to “racism contacts & controls” whilst others secured by ‘giving indirect bribes to people in power to get it’ whilst others via ‘oppression of low wages, unwritten racism and exploitation of poorer workers who don’t have racial/economic advantage’ despite being more skillful than their employers themselves in the “actual work ability”.
There’s another type of oppression in the business world where for example if you sell item A, some people won’t buy it from you because of your race but will but from a specific race or gender only. If you are impartial, you should buy it from the first person who approached you on it if you like the item based on first come first serve principle.
We cannot prove these things because it’s hidden inside a person but we know that these are real and the best is God Knows and being Perfect God Judges. Personally I avoid such racism/bias within me in my line of work by teaching the same materials regardless of the student’s race/gender, charge the same fees and practice first come, first serve basis so that no one is at a disadvantage being fair to the best I can.
I personally don’t believe that the Charity Doctrine Act is of much value if it’s dirty as described above. The cleaner your money is, the greater its relative measure in financing the Charity Doctrine Acts. In the Bible the example of Zacchaeus proves this Context as God only Accepted his giving on the condition that “he repented” of “his dirty income”, Verses:
“… 5And when Jesus came to the place, He looked up [a]and saw him, and said to him, “Zacchaeus, [b]make haste and come down, for today I must stay at your house.” 6So he [c]made haste and came down, and received Him joyfully. 7But when they saw it, they all [d]complained, saying, “He has gone to be a guest WITH A MAN WHO IS A SINNER.” 8Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “LOOK, LORD, I GIVE HALF OF MY GOODS TO THE POOR; AND IF I HAVE TAKEN ANYTHING FROM ANYONE BY FALSE ACCUSATION, I RESTORE FOURFOLD.” 9And JESUS SAID TO HIM, “TODAY SALVATION HAS COME TO THIS HOUSE, because he also is a son of Abraham; 10for THE SON OF MAN has come TO SEEK AND TO SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST.” …” (Luke 19:5 – 9, NKJV)
Peace to you
God’s Mercy and the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle link
Indeed, not all faith is genuine either as per the Parable of the sower or the denial verses in Matthew 7:20 – 24. There is no mechanical Giving taught in these Verses (e.g. Luke 11:39 – 41). Even Cornelius’ giving was accepted whilst he was a non-believer itself (Acts 10:1 – 8, 30 – 31) and Nebuchadnezzar’s giving too as per prophet Daniel’s advice (Daniel 4:27). The message in these Verses is True. We don’t need to play God to analyze who is genuine or not and Let God Decide as Judgment Day Verses are all Almsgiving in Matthew 25:31 – 46 proving its importance regardless. Example:
“… 34Then PETER opened his mouth and said: “In TRUTH I perceive that GOD shows no partiality. 35But in EVERY NATION WHOEVER FEARS HIM and WORKS RIGHTEOUSNESS is ACCEPTED BY HIM. …” (Acts 10:34 – 35, NKJV)
Note: The usage of “God” here is in general as Apostle St. Peter is speaking of ‘people who have never heard of the Gospel nor of Christ too’ (Context here in reply to Cornelius).
Which “work of righteousness” does the BIBLE specifically point to that “Cornelius did” (in this Context, the other definitions are possible but this DEFINITION OF FEARING GOD is FIRST as IT IS WRITTEN)?
- GAVE ALMS GENEROUSLY to the people,
- and PRAYED to GOD ALWAYS
(The Bible Writes it in order above), Verses:
“… 1There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian [a]Regiment, 2a devout man and one who FEARED GOD with all his household, who GAVE ALMS GENEROUSLY to the people, and PRAYED to GOD ALWAYS. 3About [c]the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God coming in and saying to him, “Cornelius!” 4And when he observed him, he was afraid, and said, “What is it, lord?” So he said to him, “Your prayers and YOUR ALMS [Charity] have come up for a memorial before God. 5Now send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter. 6He is lodging with Simon, a tanner, whose house is by the sea. He[d] will tell you what you must do.” 7And when the angel who spoke to him had departed, Cornelius called two of his household servants and a devout soldier from among those who waited on him continually. 8So when he had explained all these things to them, he sent them to Joppa. 30So Cornelius said, “Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing, 31and said, ‘Cornelius, your prayer has been heard, and YOUR ALMS [Charitable Giving] are remembered in the sight of God. …” (Acts 10:1 – 8, 30 – 31, NKJV)
Giving doesn’t save anyone, God’s Mercy does and God’s Mercy is demonstrated in a life of Giving.
There is a believing after seeing (John 20:28 – 29) and Gospel Preached to the Dead possibility (1 Peter 4:6, if it means that) and even Judgment Day believing possibility (Romans 2:14 – 16 toward those who never heard the Gospel and some others maybe as per Isaiah 45:21 – 23) as discussed in posts below where I could be wrong
1) Possible Judgment Day Hope? – Only God Knows
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160926103007784
2) Possible Hope for non-Christians who were Good toward Christians & the Gospel
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160629881647784
So I really want the non-believers to believe but if they don’t, there is nothing I can do but at least the Charity Doctrine could help in their Judgment regardless as “the opposite to Verse below” is “Judgment is with Mercy for those who have shown Mercy” (implied) in contrast to “… judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. …”.
“… For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment. …”(James 2:13, NKJV)
Regardless, did you notice that “God’s Gift of Mercy” is Proven toward those who “live a life of Mercy toward others via the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as per the Parable of the Good Samaritan”(Luke 10:25 – 37) agreeing with this Verse in James 2:13 too?
Let God Decide but we try our best even in this.
Peace to you
Part, Half vs Full Gospel
Example Quotes:
i) Part Gospel: “… I am Saved by Grace …”
ii) Half Gospel: “… I am Saved by Grace through Faith …”
iii) Full Gospel: “… I am Saved by Grace through Faith as God’s Gift for Good Works though I am not Saved by it …”
Bible Verses:
“… 8For by GRACE you have been SAVED THROUGH FAITH, and that NOT OF YOURSELVES; it is the GIFT OF GOD, 9NOT OF WORKS, lest anyone should boast. 10For we are His workmanship, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS for GOOD WORKS, which GOD PREPARED BEFOREHAND that WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM. …” (Ephesians 2:8 – 10, NKJV)
Peace to you
Charity Doctrine for Eternal Life in the New Testament Summary
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161173435847784
1) How does it apply “Today” in Principle?
Any type of living together and/or helping each other will fit this as these Verses describe
“… 44Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45and [o]sold their possessions and goods, and divided[p] them among all, as anyone had need. 46So continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, …” (Acts 2:44 – 46, NKJV)
“… 32Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common. 33And with great power the apostles gave witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And great grace was upon them all. 34Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for all who were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they distributed to each as anyone had need. 36And [d]Joses, who was also named Barnabas by the apostles (which is translated Son of [e]Encouragement), a Levite of the country of Cyprus, 37having land, sold it, and brought the money and laid it at the apostles’ feet. …” (Acts 4:32 – 37, NKJV)
2) This “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” of supplying another believer’s “needs” (not wants nor luxury) is called the “WORK OF CHRIST” in Verses below and is HIGHLY ESTEEMED by HOLY SCRIPTURE:
“… 25Yet I considered it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother, fellow worker, and fellow soldier, but your messenger and the one WHO MINISTERED TO MY NEED; 26since he was longing for you all, and was distressed because you had heard that he was sick. 27For indeed he was sick almost unto death; but God had mercy on him, and not only on him but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow. 28Therefore I sent him the more eagerly, that when you see him again you may rejoice, and I may be less sorrowful. 29Receive him therefore in the Lord with all gladness, AND HOLD SUCH MEN IN ESTEEM; 30because for the WORK OF CHRIST HE CAME CLOSE TO DEATH, [h]not regarding his life, to SUPPLY WHAT WAS LACKING IN YOUR SERVICE TOWARD ME. …” (Philippians 2:25 – 30, NKJV)
3) Women are not exempted from it:
“… 36At Joppa there was a certain disciple named [i]Tabitha, which is translated [j]Dorcas. This WOMAN WAS FULL OF GOOD WORKS and CHARITABLE DEEDS which she did. …” (Acts 9:36, NKJV)
4) Not even widows are exempted from this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle, now how much more men?
“… 9Do not let a widow under sixty years old be taken into the number, and not unless she has been the wife of one man, 10WELL REPORTED FOR GOOD WORKS: if she has BROUGHT UP CHILDREN, if SHE HAS LODGED STRANGERS, if she has washed the saints’ feet, if SHE HAS RELIEVED THE AFFLICTED, if she has DILIGENTLY FOLLOWED EVERY GOOD WORK. …” (1 Timothy 5:9 – 10, NKJV)
Please notice that for women, the phrase “… BROUGHT UP CHILDREN …” (in Verse above also applies as a Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Command for those who have children) which may explain the Context for this Famous Verse below too likewise:
“… 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15Nevertheless SHE WILL BE SAVED IN CHILDBEARING IF THEY CONTINUE IN FAITH, LOVE, and HOLINESS, WITH SELF-CONTROL. …” (1 Timothy 2:14 – 15, NKJV)
Comment: please notice that in Verses above the Bible clearly writes that “faith that saves” is not alone and goes hand in hand with “… LOVE, and HOLINESS, WITH SELF-CONTROL. …” where the “LOVE” part is the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE (in this context highlighted above as ‘… SHE WILL BE SAVED IN CHILDBEARING …’) and in Verses below, more generally where it’s possibly hinted as ‘equal to Martyrdom’ as the phrase ‘lay down our lives’ is tied up to it in Verses below:
“… 16By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV
5) True New Testament Christian Religion is defined as “… Keeping Holy or Unspotted from the World …” together with the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of helping “… ORPHANS AND WIDOWS in THEIR TROUBLE …” in Verses below:
“… 25But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. 26If anyone [e]among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless. 27PURE and UNDEFILED RELIGION BEFORE GOD and the Father is this: TO VISIT ORPHANS AND WIDOWS in THEIR TROUBLE, and to KEEP ONESELF UNSPOTTED FROM THE WORLD. …” (James 1:25 – 27, NKJV)
6) Even Apostle St. Paul the Inspired author of “Sola Fide” (Faith Alone) Practiced the CHARITY DOCTRINE of ALMSGIVING (ALMS = CHARITY) for PURIFICATION which is the Doctrine of Sanctification as Christ Taught (Luke 11:39 – 41) as Verses below describe clearly:
“… 14But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I WORSHIP THE GOD OF MY FATHERS, BELIEVING ALL THINGS which are WRITTEN IN THE LAW AND IN THE PROPHETS. 15I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection [e]of the dead, both of the just and the unjust. 16This being so, I myself always strive to have a conscience without offense toward God and men. 17“NOW AFTER MANY YEARS I CAME to BRING ALMS AND OFFERINGS TO MY NATION, 18in the midst of which some Jews from Asia FOUND ME PURIFIED IN THE TEMPLE, neither with a mob nor with tumult. 19They ought to have been here before you to object if they had anything against me. 20Or else let those who are here themselves say [f]if they found any wrongdoing in me while I stood before the council, 21unless it is for this one statement which I cried out, standing among them, ‘Concerning the resurrection of the dead I am being judged by you this day.’ ” …” – Blessed St. Paul the Great Apostle of Christ (Acts of the Apostles, 24:14 – 21, NKJV)
Note: Please notice that “Alms = CHARITY DOCTRINE” and Blessed Apostle St. Paul did it for “Purification” (Doctrine of Sanctification).
“… [ 39Then the Lord said to him, ] “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)
“… 32“So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you AN INHERITANCE AMONG ALL THOSE WHO are SANCTIFIED. 33I have COVETED NO ONE’S SILVER OR GOLD or APPAREL. 34[i]Yes, you yourselves know that THESE HANDS have PROVIDED FOR MY NECESSITIES, and for those who were with me. 35I have SHOWN YOU IN EVERY WAY, by laboring like this, that YOU MUST SUPPORT THE WEAK. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, ‘It is MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE.’ ” …” (Acts 20:32 – 35, NKJV)
7) Even Christian Ministry is best when parts of it or all of it is Done with the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE Way to attain to its maximum rewards in the Kingdom:
“… 14Even so the LORD HAS COMMANDED that those who preach the gospel should LIVE FROM THE GOSPEL. 15But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; … 18What is MY REWARD then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the GOSPEL OF CHRIST WITHOUT CHARGE, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel. …” (1 Corinthians 9:14 – 15, 18, NKJV)
“… “FREELY YOU HAVE RECEIVED, FREELY GIVE …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 10:8, NKJV)
“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?”21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, FOLLOW ME.” …” (Matthew 19:20 – 21, NKJV)
Please take note that I have NOT fulfilled this Verse either but the Point of being “Spiritually Mature” (or “perfect” Faith as Christ Calls it here, only His Definition matters) is toward the direction of “… Sell all and Give to the Poor …” and so we mature according to the Level in which to attain to this True Spiritual maturity of Faith.
“… 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:27 – 30, NKJV)
Apostle St. Peter already renounce even “his wife” as he “left all” (including “his wife”, “land”, “houses”) as per the literal meaning in Verses above as Christ Declares too for the “Hundredfold” Reward (Matthew 13:8, Matthew 19:29). So, it cannot be that these same apostles are said by Apostle Paul to have ‘wife’ again in 1 Corinthians 9:5 as these were ‘sister-wives’ as First Christianity Taught as per the Original Koine Greek phrase here as discussed in an earlier post below (but regardless in 1 Corinthians 9:5 Apostle St. Paul clearly mentions to ‘remain unmarried’ as the higher way among the Apostles too to attain to a higher way or reward).
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“… Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas? …” 1 Corinthians 9:5, KJV)
Even generally this principle is true as marriage in the New Testament is “not” a Command but an “Option” where the “BETTER OPTION” is being “UNMARRIED” as God’s Word Declares below (and so we ought to Teach likewise in any Responsible Preaching):
“… 7For I WISH THAT ALL MEN WERE EVEN as I MYSELF. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. 8But I say to the UNMARRIED AND TO THE WIDOWS: IT IS GOOD FOR THEM IF THEY REMAIN EVEN AS I AM; 9but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. … 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have TROUBLE IN THE FLESH, but I WOULD SPARE YOU. … 32But I want you to be without care. He who is UNMARRIED CARES FOR THE THINGS OF THE LORD—how he may PLEASE THE LORD. 33But HE WHO IS MARRIED CARES about the THINGS OF THE WORLD—how he may PLEASE HIS WIFE. … 38So then he who GIVES HER IN MARRIAGE DOES WELL, but he WHO DOES NOT GIVE HER IN MARRIAGE DOES BETTER. …” (1 Corinthians 7:7 – 9, 28, 32 – 33, 38, NKJV)
Conclusion
Christians who follow these type of lifestyle truly love their neighbors as themselves and therefore fulfill all Law (Galatians 5:14) and beyond that regarding who is really doing it from the heart Vs who is doing it for self glory or to gain prosperity indirectly etc., We let God Alone Judge One Day and Focus only on Encouraging this Lifestyle.
“… For ALL THE LAW (TORAH) IS FULFILLED in one word, even in this: “YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.” …” (Galatians 5:14, NKJV)
“… 29JESUS answered him, “The [k]first of all the commandments is: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. 30And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ [l]This is the first commandment. 31And the second, like it, is this: ‘YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR as YOURSELF.’ There is NO OTHER COMMANDMENT GREATER THAN THESE.” …” (Mark 12:29 – 31, NKJV)
And to teach which “neighbor” and “how to love” or fulfill these two GREATEST COMMANDS CHRIST only pointed to the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE in His Famous Parable of the GOOD SAMARITAN (where a “Samaritan represents someone with an Imperfect Knowledge of God even according to Christ in another passage in John 4:22’s phrase “…22You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship …” (John 4:22, NKJV) may mean):
Yes, perhaps that’s why Christ Mysteriously Echoed the Answer to the Question “…what SHALL I DO to INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE? …” (Luke 10:25, KJV) as the “Charity Doctrine” as described in the Parable of the Good Samaritan (Luke 10:26 – 27). Please notice that this Answer (in Luke 10:25 – 37) was by CHRIST HIMSELF directly with “NO INTERPRETATIONS” and it agrees also with HIS OWN MOST BLESSED WORDS again in the JUDGMENT DAY VERSES likewise (in Matthew 25:31 – 46) which are all about CHARITY DOCTRINE ONLY again, quoted below (so Preaching and Doing this is OBEYING CHRIST FOR WHAT HE REQUIRES for ETERNAL LIFE – can you see it please ‘as it is Written’?):
“… 25And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?” 26He said to him, “What is WRITTEN IN THE LAW? What is YOUR READING OF IT?” 27So he answered and said, “ ‘You shall LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,’ and ‘YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.’ ” 28And He said to him, “You have answered rightly; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE.” 29But he, wanting to justify himself, said to Jesus, “And WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR?” 30Then JESUS ANSWERED and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had COMPASSION. 34So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and TOOK CARE OF HIM. 35On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘TAKE CARE OF HIM; and WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, when I come again, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:25 – 37, NKJV)
It’s a “Command” (not an option) according to what we have by “Relative Measure” (Luke 12:46 – 48, Luke 16:19 – 31, Luke 21:1 – 4):
“… 17COMMAND THOSE WHO ARE RICH in this present age not to be haughty, nor to trust in uncertain riches but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. 18Let THEM DO GOOD, that they be RICH IN GOOD WORKS, READY TO GIVE, WILLING TO SHARE, 19storing up for themselves a good foundation for the time to come, that THEY MAY LAY HOLD ON ETERNAL LIFE. …” (1 Timothy 6:17 – 19, NKJV)
“… 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, CREATED in CHRIST JESUS for GOOD WORKS, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. …” (Ephesians 2:8 – 10, NKJV)
The will of the MOST BLESSED FATHER = Purpose of why we are created = “…. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works …” according to Verses above though we are “not” saved by it. And the only Good Works mentioned in these Judgment Day Verses (Matthew 25:31 – 46) or the Command to the rich (1 Timothy 6:17 – 19) is specifically the “CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE” of “GIVING, SHARING” to the POOR/NEEDY and not toward those who are rich.
“… … 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but HE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER IN HEAVEN. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness! …’” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:20 – 23, NKJV)
“… ETERNAL LIFE to those who by PATIENT CONTINUANCE in DOING GOOD SEEK FOR GLORY, HONOR, AND IMMORTALITY; …” (Romans 2:7, NKJV)
“… 28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29And shall come forth; they that have DONE GOOD, unto the RESURRECTION of LIFE; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ, (John 5:28 – 29, KJV
Why is this most important? Because only those who “do the WILL OF THE FATHER ENTER HEAVEN” as above and the Judgment Day Verses below clearly describe “those sheep entering/inheriting Heaven” as those who did the Charity Doctrine:
“… 31“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the [c]holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 37“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘LORD, WHEN DID WE SEE YOU HUNGRY and FEED YOU, OR THIRSTY AND GIVE YOU DRINK? 38When did we SEE YOU A STRANGER AND TAKE YOU IN, or NAKED AND CLOTHE YOU? 39Or when did we see YOU SICK, OR IN PRISON, AND COME TO YOU?’ 40And the King will answer and say to them, ‘ASSUREDLY, I SAY TO YOU, INASMUCH AS YOU DID IT TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YOU DID IT TO ME.’ 41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42for I WAS HUNGRY AND YOU GAVE ME NO FOOD; I WAS THIRSTY AND YOU GAVE ME NO DRINK; 43I WAS A STRANGER and YOU DID NOT TAKE ME IN, NAKED and YOU DID NOT CLOTHE ME, SICK and IN PRISON AND YOU DID NOT VISIT ME.’ 44“Then they also will answer [d]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when DID WE SEE YOU HUNGRY or THIRSTY OR A STRANGER OR NAKED OR SICK or in PRISON, and did not minister to You?’ 45Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as YOU DID NOT DO IT to one of the least of these, you DID NOT DO IT TO ME.’ 46And THESE WILL GO AWAY INTO EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT, but the righteous into eternal life.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:31 – 46, NKJV)
The Judgment Day Verses above clearly prove that ‘this is the Will of the Father’ for “Eternal Life”.
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Poor in Spirit Mystery – What does Scripture and First Christianity Say regarding its Meaning?
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Why is this Important? Because they are ‘chosen to inherit Heaven’:
“… 3“Blessed are the POOR IN SPIRIT, For theirs is the kingdom of HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:3, NKJV)
1) Holy Scripture refers to “Poor in Spirit” as someone who “Trembles to obey God’s Word”, Verses:
“… 1Thus says the Lord:
“Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.
Where is the house that you will build Me?
And where is the place of My rest?
2For all those things My hand has made,
And all those things exist,”
Says the Lord.
“But ON THIS ONE WILL I LOOK:
ON HIM WHO IS POOR and of a CONTRITE SPIRIT,
And WHO TREMBLES AT MY WORD. …” (Isaiah 66:1 – 2, NKJV)
Note: I have ‘not’ found another Verse in Scripture using this phrase ‘Poor in Spirit’ except Isaiah 66:1 – 2 and Matthew 5:3. So, if someone finds another, please let me know as it would be edifying.
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2) First Christianity defined “Poor in Spirit” as referring to someone who practices the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle”, to quote:
Yes, this Definition of “Poor in Spirit” (Matthew 5:3) referring to the rich who share and the literally “Poor” (Luke 6:20) to inherit heaven was believed by this First Christianity Champion of Faith who is accepted by both Protestants and others especially since he strongly opposed iconography prayers in Christianity and himself has no recorded prayers to Mary, nor to the Saints nor to the Angels etc., To quote:
“… 401 8r,3 But he does not know that the Old Testament also says, “The poor and the rich have met together: but the Lord is the maker of them both.” 402 And the New Testament agrees, and pronounces a BLESSING on the POOR who are LITERALLY POOR, and in ANOTHER PASSAGE a BLESSING on the POOR in SPIRIT, so that BOTH PRONOUNCEMENTS have FORCE. Thus Peter can point with pride to his LITERAL POVERTY and say, “Silver and gold have I none, but what I have, I give thee; in the name of Jesus Christ, rise up and walk,” 403 (4) so that the BLESSING of the ACTUALLY POOR means NOTHING CONTRADICTORY to the BLESSING of the POOR IN SPIRIT. The “POOR in SPIRIT” are persons in RIGHTEOUS POSSESSION of PROPERTY, while the “poor” are the humble, of whom Christ said, “I was an hungered, and YE GAVE ME MEAT, thirsty, and YE GAVE me DRINK,” and so on 81,5 Next he explains, ‘These (i.e., the POOR in SPIRIT) ACTED of THEIR ABUNDANCE”; … And do you see how, in the Old and the New Testaments, the poor are called blessed for piety, and the rich are called blessed for righteousness? …” – Blessed St. Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis and the ‘Hammer of Heretics’, (c. 310 AD – c. 403 AD, ‘MANICHAEANS’ , “Panarion or Medicine-Chest”, Point 62.10, Pages 308 – 309)
3) How about those literally Poor financially?
“… Then He lifted up His eyes toward His disciples, and said: “Blessed are you poor, For yours is the kingdom of God. …” (Luke 6:20, NKJV)
“… 21So that servant came and reported these things to his master. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, ‘Go out quickly into the STREETS and LANES of the city, and bring in here the POOR and the MAIMED and the LAME and the BLIND.’ 22And the servant said, ‘Master, it is done as you commanded, and still THERE IS ROOM.’ 23Then the master said to the servant, ‘Go out into the HIGHWAYS and HEDGES, and COMPEL THEM to COME IN, that MY HOUSE MAY BE FILLED. 24For I say to you that NONE of those men who were INVITED shall taste MY SUPPER.’ ” …” (Luke 14:21 – 24, NKJV)
Please notice the word “Poor”, “maimed” and “lame” in Verses above where Christ Spoke this Parable just after asking a Rich Pharisee to “Give Food” to the “Poor” to be “Repaid at the Resurrection of the Just”, Verses:
“…12Then He also said to him who invited Him, “When you give a dinner or a supper, do not ask your friends, your brothers, your relatives, NOR RICH NEIGHBORS, lest they also invite you back, and you be repaid. 13But when you give a feast, INVITE the POOR, THE MAIMED, THE LAME, THE BLIND. 14And you will be BLESSED, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be REPAID at the RESURRECTION OF THE JUST.” …” (Luke 14:12 – 14, NKJV)
This means that the “POOR, MAIMED and LAME” are the same ones mentioned in Luke 14:12 – 14 and Luke 12:21 – 24 where allegorical meanings are possible but the primary meaning is most likely true as even the Topic is about those who Help the Poor Vs those who waste their money helping the rich or enjoy life in ”Prosperity pursuits” say by over feasting with that money as Christ Explains in Luke 14:12 – 14. Can you see it?
Conclusion
Regardless of the Definition of “Poor in Spirit”, it certainly refers to those who “obey” God’s Commands and Christ Gave many Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Commands in the New Testament including toward Enemies too (e.g. Luke 11:39 – 41, Luke 12:31 – 35, Matthew 5:43 – 48, Matthew 19:21 – 24, 27 – 30, Luke 10:25 – 37, Luke 16:19 – 31).
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The Promise if we are Seeking the Kingdom of God with a Right Heart
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1) The Promise = Food, Drink and Clothing only
“… 31“Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall WE EAT?’ or ‘What shall WE DRINK?’ or ‘What shall WE WEAR?’ 32For AFTER ALL THESE THINGS the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that YOU NEED ALL THESE THINGS. 33But SEEK FIRST the KINGDOM OF GOD and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, and ALL THESE THINGS SHALL BE ADDED TO YOU. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 6:31 – 33, NKJV)
Which “all these things” (not anything we want or desire) is Christ Referring to?
i. Food = “… What shall WE EAT?’ or ‘What shall WE DRINK?’ …”
ii. Clothing = “… or ‘What shall WE WEAR?’ …”
Please notice how accurately Apostle Paul likewise concludes that CONTENTMENT for a TRUE BIBLICAL FAITH is based exactly on what CHRIST SAID ABOVE namely FOR FOOD (“eat” & “drink”) and CLOTHING (“what to wear only”) as everything else is a bonus and NOT a must Promise by God to Fulfill it in Verses below:
“… 6Now GODLINESS WITH CONTENTMENT IS GREAT GAIN. 7For we brought nothing into this world, [d]and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8And HAVING FOOD AND CLOTHING, WITH THESE WE SHALL BE CONTENT. 9But those who DESIRE TO BE RICH FALL into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. …” (1 Timothy 6:6 – 9, NKJV)
Note: Not all Prosperity is from God as the “Prosperity of the Wicked” is even more “disease free” and “gets more luxury & earthly enjoyments than what a heart could wish” as these “Bible Verses” (not opinions of men), Reveal below (so please don’t be deceived by it):
“… 3For I was envious of the boastful, When I saw the PROSPERITY OF THE WICKED. 4For there are NO [A]PANGS IN THEIR DEATH, But their strength is firm. 5They are NOT IN TROUBLE AS OTHER MEN, NOR ARE THEY PLAGUED like OTHER MEN. 6Therefore pride serves as their necklace; Violence covers them like a garment. 7Their [b]eyes BULGE WITH ABUNDANCE; THEY HAVE MORE THAN HEART COULD WISH. …” (Psalm 73:3 – 7, NKJV)
2) The Condition = Charity Doctrine Lifestyle
The Biggest Mistake of quoting Matthew 6:31 – 33 above is when those quoting it do not Quote the rest of Christ’s Statement on this Topic/Context which is Recorded by Blessed Luke below in which CHRIST HIMSELF COMMANDS THE CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE with the “things God Gives” in Verses below:
“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an UNFAILING TREASURE IN HEAVEN, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 35, NASB)
So if we find ourselves “not” sharing the “things which God Gave us” according to these Verses and Relative Measure (e.g. Luke 21:1 – 4, Luke 12:46 – 48), we might find ourselves “judged” accordingly too.
So may God Help us to do the little we can despite our selfish nature which will not fullfil any of these Verses perfectly either to Fulfill His Lifestyle Will on this and may we learn to Quote His Words in “Full” on a Topic/Context lest we intentionally or unintentionally deceive our hearers to be accountable to the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God in any Responsible Preaching.
Peace to you
Faith that Saves is never Alone
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A commonly asked question: “How to not stumble?”
The Bible Says in Verses next that to “not stumble” and enter “abundantly to His Kingdom” one needs to add these to the “faith” for if not, one is called “blind”
Verses:
“… 5But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your FAITH VIRTUE, to VIRTUE KNOWLEDGE, 6to KNOWLEDGE SELF-CONTROL, to SELF-CONTROL [D]PERSEVERANCE, to PERSEVERANCE GODLINESS, 7TO GODLINESS BROTHERLY KINDNESS, and TO BROTHERLY KINDNESS LOVE. 8For if these things are yours and abound, you will be NEITHER [E]BARREN NOR UNFRUITFUL in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9For he who LACKS THESE THINGS IS SHORTSIGHTED, EVEN TO BLINDNESS, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins. 10Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make YOUR CALL AND ELECTION SURE, for IF YOU DO THESE THINGS YOU WILL NEVER STUMBLE; 11for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the EVERLASTING KINGDOM of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. …” (2 Peter 1:5 – 11, NKJV)
Note:
i. Knowledge and Virtue: “… add to your FAITH VIRTUE, to VIRTUE KNOWLEDGE, …”
ii. Holiness part: “… SELF-CONTROL [D]PERSEVERANCE, to PERSEVERANCE GODLINESS …”
iii. Charity Doctrine Lifestyle part: “… BROTHERLY KINDNESS, and TO BROTHERLY KINDNESS LOVE. …”.
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Example of a Poor in Spirit person – Apostle St. Paul
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Thirst for Righteousness includes obeying the Charity Doctrine Commands as even Apostle St. Paul did in Verses below as the leading example of someone who is “Poor in spirit”:
“… 14But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I WORSHIP THE GOD OF MY FATHERS, BELIEVING ALL THINGS which are WRITTEN IN THE LAW AND IN THE PROPHETS. 15I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection [e]of the dead, both of the just and the unjust. 16This being so, I myself always strive to have a conscience without offense toward God and men. 17“NOW AFTER MANY YEARS I CAME to BRING ALMS AND OFFERINGS TO MY NATION, 18in the midst of which some Jews from Asia FOUND ME PURIFIED IN THE TEMPLE, neither with a mob nor with tumult. 19They ought to have been here before you to object if they had anything against me. 20Or else let those who are here themselves say [f]if they found any wrongdoing in me while I stood before the council, 21unless it is for this one statement which I cried out, standing among them, ‘Concerning the resurrection of the dead I am being judged by you this day.’ ” …” – Blessed St. Paul the Great Apostle of Christ (Acts of the Apostles, 24:14 – 21, NKJV)
Note: Please notice that “Alms = CHARITY DOCTRINE” and Blessed Apostle St. Paul did it for “Purification” (Doctrine of Sanctification).
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Charity Doctrine Lifestyle is the “Law of Christ”
The quote in image is also a Çharity Doctrine type of Quote’, Verse:
“… Bear one another’s burdens, and so FULFILL THE LAW OF CHRIST. …” (Galatians 6:2, NKJV)
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Mystery of True Repentance and the Charity Doctrine Commands – Safe Route Scripturally
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161183062772784/
1) What did God Command as “Repentance” in the Old Testament?
In Verses below, God Clearly States that gathering in “assemblies” (or churches with “sacrifices” be it “prayers or worship” or keeping the “Sabbaths”) is NOT part of “Repentance unless one does the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE of “… 17LEARN TO DO GOOD; Seek justice, Rebuke [i]the oppressor; [J]DEFEND THE FATHERLESS, PLEAD FOR THE WIDOW. …” to get the Promise of “…“Though YOUR SINS ARE LIKE SCARLET, THEY SHALL BE AS WHITE AS SNOW; …”, to quote:
“… 13Bring no more futile[f] sacrifices;
Incense is an abomination to Me.
The NEW MOONS, THE SABBATHS, and the CALLING OF ASSEMBLIES—
I cannot endure iniquity and the sacred meeting.
14Your New Moons and your appointed feasts
My soul hates;
They are a trouble to Me,
I am weary of bearing them.
15WHEN YOU [G]SPREAD OUT YOUR HANDS,
I will hide My eyes from you;
Even THOUGH YOU MAKE MANY PRAYERS,
I WILL NOT HEAR.
Your hands are full of [h]blood.
16“Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean;
Put away the evil of your doings from before My eyes.
Cease to do evil,
17LEARN TO DO GOOD;
Seek justice,
Rebuke [i]the oppressor;
[J]DEFEND THE FATHERLESS,
PLEAD FOR THE WIDOW.
18“Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the Lord,
“Though YOUR SINS ARE LIKE SCARLET,
THEY SHALL BE AS WHITE AS SNOW;
Though they are red like crimson,
They shall be as wool.
19If you are willing and obedient,
You shall eat the good of the land;
20But if you refuse and rebel,
You shall be devoured by the sword”;
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken. …” (Isaiah 1:13 – 20, NKJV)
2) What did God Command as “Repentance” in the New Testament via John the Baptist?
The “Fruits of Repentance” message of St. John the Baptist which points to the “Charity Doctrine” and “Contentment” instead of their life games of politics toward “Prosperity” & “do no good works” type of theology, Verses (where such truths can only be seen if we quote Verses in “full” and not add what’s not spoken by him):
“… [7Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him], “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8Therefore bear FRUITS WORTHY OF REPENTANCE, and do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones. 9And even now the AX IS LAID TO THE ROOT OF THE TREES. Therefore EVERY TREE which DOES NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT Is cut down and THROWN INTO THE FIRE.” 10So the people asked him, saying, “What shall we do then?” 11He answered and said to them, “HE WHO HAS TWO TUNICS, let him GIVE TO HIM WHO HAS NONE; and HE WHO HAS FOOD, LET HIM DO LIKEWISE.” 12Then tax collectors also came to be baptized, and said to him, “Teacher, what shall we do?” 13And he said to them, “COLLECT NO MORE THAN WHAT IS APPOINTED FOR YOU.” 14Likewise the soldiers asked him, saying, “And what shall we do?” So he said to them, “DO NOT INTIMIDATE ANYONE or ACCUSE FALSELY, and BE CONTENT WITH YOUR WAGES. …” – Answers by Blessed St. John the Baptist, ForeRunner for Christ (Luke 3:7 – 14, NKJV)
Please notice that “fruits of repentance” definition by St. John the Baptist in his famous sermon above only lists the following which are all CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE ACTS without which the warning above in context is “… EVERY TREE which DOES NOT BEAR GOOD FRUIT Is cut down and THROWN INTO THE FIRE. …”:
i. “… HE WHO HAS TWO TUNICS, let him GIVE TO HIM WHO HAS NONE; and HE WHO HAS FOOD, LET HIM DO LIKEWISE.” …”
ii. “… COLLECT NO MORE THAN WHAT IS APPOINTED FOR YOU …”
iii. “… DO NOT INTIMIDATE ANYONE or ACCUSE FALSELY, and BE CONTENT WITH YOUR WAGES. …” (i.e. “Contentment” and ‘not faith for money/prosperity’ is Spoken).
3) How did First Christianity understand “Repentance” in light of the Charity Doctrine Verses in Isaiah 1 earlier?
“… if you TURN to Me with YOUR WHOLE HEART, and say, Father! I will listen to you, as to a holy people.” And in another place He says: “WASH, and BECOME CLEAN; put away the wickedness of your souls from before my eyes; CEASE FROM YOUR EVIL WAYS, and LEARN TO DO WELL; seek out judgment, deliver the oppressed, JUDGE THE FATHERLESS, and SEE THAT JUSTICE IS DONE TO THE WIDOW; and come, and let us reason together. He declares, “THOUGH YOUR SINS BE LIKE CRIMSON, I WILL MAKE THEM WHITE AS SNOW; THOUGH THEY BE LIKE SCARLET, I WILL WHITEN THEM LIKE WOOL. And IF YOU ARE WILLING AND OBEY ME, you shall eat the good of the land; but if you refuse, and will not listen to Me, the sword shall devour you, for the mouth of the Lord has spoken these things.” [Isaiah 1:16 – 20] Desiring, therefore, that all His beloved should be PARTAKERS OF REPENTANCE, He has, by His ALMIGHTY WILL, ESTABLISHED [THESE DECLARATIONS]. …” – Blessed St. Clement of Rome, an Apostolic Father being a direct Disciple of the Blessed Apostle St. Peter (c.35 AD – c. 99 AD, 1 Clement Chapter 8)
Source:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/1clement-roberts.html
Comment: Can you see how accurately St. Clement of Rome Preaches the ‘same’ regarding “Repentance”?
Conclusion – What did Lord Jesus Christ Say?
True “Repentance” is not just some admittance of sin but a lifestyle change and a cleaning of “within” too which is by “Almsgiving or the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” as CHRIST HIMSELF affirmed in Verses below beyond “outward holiness only” and ‘Christ Calls them “fools” for not knowing this’:
“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. 42“But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass by JUSTICE and the LOVE of GOD These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 45, NKJV)
Comment: No Wonder even “Judgment Day Verses” are all about ALMSGIVING or the CHARITY DOCTRINE LIFESTYLE only signifying TRUE REPENTANCE according to what one did when another was “… HUNGRY, THIRSTY, NAKED, HOMELESS …” in Matthew 25:31 – 46.
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Vanity Toil for Prosperity Vs the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161185168527784
True Quote in image as per Bible Verses below:
“… IT IS VAIN for you to RISE UP EARLY, TO SIT UP LATE, To eat the BREAD OF SORROWS; For so He gives His beloved sleep. …” (Psalm 127:2, NKJV)
“… DO NOT OVERWORK TO BE RICH; Because of your own understanding, CEASE! …” (Proverbs 23:4, NKJV)
Conclusion
“… I know that NOTHING IS BETTER for them than to REJOICE, and TO DO GOOD IN THEIR LIVES, …” (Ecclesiastes 3:12, NKJV)
The only hard work the Bible Praises is one which intends to “Give to others” through it which is the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ as these Verses clearly Reveal:
1) The Way of the Apostle
“… 33I have coveted no one’s silver or gold or apparel. 34[i]Yes, you yourselves know that these hands have PROVIDED FOR MY NECESSITIES, and FOR THOSE WHO WERE WITH ME. I have SHOWN YOU IN EVERY WAY, by LABORING LIKE THIS, that YOU MUST SUPPORT THE WEAK. And remember the words of the LORD JESUS, that He said, ‘It is MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE.’ ” …” – Blessed St. Paul, the Great Apostle of Christ (Acts 20:33 – 35, NKJV)
2) The Way of the Repentant
“… Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather LET HIM LABOR, WORKING WITH HIS HANDS WHAT IS GOOD, that he may have SOMETHING TO GIVE HIM WHO HAS NEED. …” (Ephesians 4:28, NKJV)
3) The Way of the Righteous
“… All day long he craves for more, but THE RIGHTEOUS GIVE WITHOUT SPARING. …” (Proverbs 21:26, NIV)
4) The Way of the Prudent Wife
“… She extends HER HAND TO THE POOR, Yes, she REACHES OUT HER HANDS TO THE NEEDY. …” (Proverbs 31:20, NKJV)
5) The way of the worst among Israelites or Gentiles even a key reason was because they didn’t Practice this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle but loved Prosperity
“… 8Then the word of the Lord came to zechariah, saying, 9“Thus SAYS THE LORD OF HOSTS:
‘EXECUTE TRUE JUSTICE,
Show [g]MERCY AND COMPASSION
EVERYONE TO HIS BROTHER.
10DO NOT OPPRESS THE WIDOW OR THE FATHERLESS,
The ALIEN OR THE POOR.
Let none of you plan evil in his heart
Against his brother.’
11“But THEY REFUSED TO HEED, SHRUGGED[H] THEIR SHOULDERS, and STOPPED[I] THEIR EARS SO THAT THEY COULD NOT HEAR. 12Yes, they made their hearts like flint, REFUSING TO HEAR the law and THE WORDS WHICH THE LORD OF HOSTS HAD SENT BY HIS SPIRIT THROUGH THE FORMER PROPHETS. Thus GREAT WRATH came from the Lord of hosts. 13Therefore it happened, that just as He proclaimed and they would not hear, so they called out and I would not listen,” says the Lord of hosts. 14“But I SCATTERED THEM with a whirlwind AMONG ALL THE NATIONS which they had not known. Thus the land became desolate after them, so that no one passed through or returned; for they made the pleasant land desolate.” …” (Zechariah 7:8 – 14, NKJV)
“… Look, this was the iniquity of your sister SODOM: She and her daughter had PRIDE, FULLNESS OF FOOD, and ABUNDANCE OF IDLENESS; NEITHER did she strengthen the hand of the POOR and NEEDY. …” (Ezekiel 16:49, NKJV)
6) The Way of Female Disciples of Christ
“… 36At Joppa there was a certain disciple named TABITHA, which is translated Dorcas. This woman was FULL OF GOOD WORKS AND CHARITABLE DEEDS which SHE DID. 37But it happened in those days that she became sick and died. …” (Acts 9:36 – 37, NKJV)
7) The Way of a Widow in Christ
“… 9Do not let a widow under sixty years old be taken into the number, and not unless she has been the wife of one man, 10WELL REPORTED FOR GOOD WORKS: if she has BROUGHT UP CHILDREN, if SHE HAS LODGED STRANGERS, if she has washed the saints’ feet, if she has RELIEVED THE AFFLICTED, IF SHE HAS DILIGENTLY FOLLOWED EVERY GOOD WORK. 11But [c]refuse the younger widows; for when they have begun to grow wanton against Christ, they desire to marry, 12having condemnation because they have cast off their first [d]faith. …” (1 Timothy 5:9 – 12, NKJV)
8.) The Way of a Highly Praised Simple Christian Working Man
“… 25Yet I considered it necessary to send to you EPAPHRODITUS, MY BROTHER, FELLOW WORKER, and FELLOW SOLDIER, but your messenger and THE ONE WHO MINISTERED TO MY NEED; 26since he was longing for you all, and was distressed because you had heard that he was sick. 27For INDEED HE WAS SICK ALMOST UNTO DEATH; but God had mercy on him, and not only on him but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow. 28Therefore I sent him the more eagerly, that when you see him again you may rejoice, and I may be less sorrowful. 29Receive him therefore in the Lord with all gladness, and HOLD SUCH MEN IN ESTEEM; 30because FOR THE WORK OF CHRIST HE CAME CLOSE TO DEATH, [h]not regarding his life, to SUPPLY WHAT WAS LACKING IN YOUR SERVICE TOWARD ME. …” (Philippians 2:25 – 30, NKJV)
9) The Way of the Old Testament Righteous Rich
“… 16“If I have kept the POOR from their desire,
Or caused the eyes of the WIDOW to fail,
17Or EATEN MY MORSEL BY MYSELF,
So that the FATHERLESS could not eat of it
18(But from my youth I REARED HIM AS A FATHER,
And from my mother’s womb I GUIDED [D]THE WIDOW);
19If I have seen ANYONE PERISH FOR LACK OF CLOTHING,
Or ANY POOR MAN WITHOUT COVERING;
20If his [e]heart has not blessed me,
And if he was not WARMED WITH THE FLEECE OF MY SHEEP;
21If I have RAISED MY HAND AGAINST THE FATHERLESS,
When I saw I had help in the gate;
22Then let my arm fall from my shoulder,
Let my arm be torn from the socket.
23For destruction from God is a terror to me,
And because of His magnificence I cannot endure. …” – Blessed Job, one of the most Righteous Man ever to have walked the earth and was God’s Favourite (Job 31:16 – 23, NKJV)
A lot of Preachers like to quote Blessed Patriarch Abraham as an example for “blessings”. But Few quote him in “full” especially the reason why God Blessed him so much in so many ways which is because he is EXTREMELY HOSPITABLE and a GIVER to STRANGERS.
“… 1Then the Lord appeared to him by the terebinth trees of Mamre, as he was sitting in the tent door in the heat of the day. 2So he lifted his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing by him; and when he saw them, HE RAN from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the ground, 3and said, “My Lord, if I have now found favor in Your sight, do not pass on by Your servant. 4Please let a LITTLE WATER be brought, and wash your feet, and REST YOURSELVES under the tree. 5And I will BRING A MORSEL OF BREAD, that you may REFRESH YOUR HEARTS. After that you may pass by, inasmuch as you have come to your servant.” They said, “Do as you have said.” 6So ABRAHAM HURRIED into the tent to Sarah and said, “QUICKLY, make ready THREE MEASURES OF FINE MEAL; knead it and MAKE CAKES.” 7And Abraham RAN to the HERD, took a TENDER AND GOOD CALF, gave it to a young man, and he HASTENED to PREPARE IT. 8So he took BUTTER and MILK and the CALF which he had PREPARED, and SET IT BEFORE THEM; and he STOOD by them under the tree as THEY ATE. …” (Genesis 18:1 – 8, NKJV)
Some scholars noted that Blessed Abraham did “not” even eat such a wonderful meal them but “stood” by (not seated) implying that he was ready to ‘serve them as they ate’.
Please take note ‘carefully’ that Blessed Patriarch Abraham did “not” behave hospitable like the above so that ‘he can claim blessings later’. He didn’t even know that the Lord and Angels were present and were about to Give him the “Great Promise”. In other words, Blessed Patriarch Abraham was ‘naturally’ a ‘Giver’ like that and the Bible is clearly showing ‘why’ he was ‘Chosen of God’ one of it being due to ‘his great hospitality’. This is different from us who try to quote Blessed Abraham and emulate him and then try to claim ‘blessings’ or ‘money blessings on earth’ to become rich. Can you see it?
10) The Way of the New Testament Righteous Rich
“… COMMAND those who are RICH … Let them DO GOOD, that they be RICH in GOOD WORKS, ready to GIVE, willing to SHARE, 19storing up for themselves a good FOUNDATION for the TIME to COME, that they MAY lay HOLD on ETERNAL LIFE. …” (1 Timothy 6:17 – 19, NKJV)
“… 5And when Jesus came to the place, He looked up [a]and saw him, and said to him, “Zacchaeus, [b]make haste and come down, for today I must stay at your house.” 6So he [c]made haste and came down, and received Him joyfully. 7But when they saw it, they all [d]complained, saying, “He has gone to be a guest WITH A MAN WHO IS A SINNER.” 8Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, “LOOK, LORD, I GIVE HALF OF MY GOODS TO THE POOR; AND IF I HAVE TAKEN ANYTHING FROM ANYONE BY FALSE ACCUSATION, I RESTORE FOURFOLD.” 9And JESUS SAID TO HIM, “TODAY SALVATION HAS COME TO THIS HOUSE, because he also is a son of Abraham; 10for THE SON OF MAN has come TO SEEK AND TO SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST.” …” (Luke 19:5 – 9, NKJV)
The Way of Biblical Kings too:
“… 15“Do you become a king because you are competing in cedar? Did your father not eat and drink And DO JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS? Then it was well for him. 16“HE PLED THE CAUSE OF THE AFFLICTED and THE POOR, then it was well. IS THAT NOT WHAT IT MEANS TO KNOW ME?” DECLARES THE LORD. 17“But your eyes and your heart Are intent only upon your own dishonest gain, And on shedding innocent blood, And on practicing oppression and extortion.” … And YOU WILL SEEK ME AND FIND ME when YOU SEARCH FOR ME WITH ALL YOUR HEART. …” (Jeremiah 22:15 – 17, 29:13, NASB)
11) The Way of the Righteous Prophesied Generally from the Old to the New Testament and even in the First Apostolic Church
“… But a GENEROUS man DEVISES GENEROUS THINGS, And BY GENEROSITY HE SHALL STAND. …” (Isaiah 32:8, NKJV)
“… 4Unto the upright there arises light in the darkness; He is GRACIOUS, AND FULL OF COMPASSION, and righteous. 5A good man DEALS GRACIOUSLY AND LENDS; He will guide his affairs with discretion. 6Surely he will never be shaken; The RIGHTEOUS WILL BE IN EVERLASTING REMEMBRANCE. 7He will not be afraid of evil tidings; His heart is steadfast, trusting in the Lord. 8His heart is established; He will not be afraid, Until he sees his desire upon his enemies. 9He has dispersed abroad, He has GIVEN TO THE POOR; His righteousness ENDURES FOREVER; His [c]horn will be EXALTED WITH HONOR …” (Psalm 112:4 – 9, NKJV)
“… 9As it is written:
“He has dispersed abroad,
He has GIVEN TO THE POOR;
His RIGHTEOUSNESS endures FOREVER.”
10Now [g]may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, [h]supply and multiply the seed you have sown and INCREASE THE FRUITS OF YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, 11while you are enriched in everything for ALL LIBERALITY, which causes THANKSGIVING THROUGH US TO GOD. 12For the ADMINISTRATION OF THIS SERVICE not only SUPPLIES THE NEEDS OF THE SAINTS, but also is ABOUNDING THROUGH MANY THANKSGIVINGS TO GOD, 13while, through the PROOF OF THIS MINISTRY, THEY GLORIFY GOD for the OBEDIENCE OF YOUR CONFESSION to the GOSPEL OF CHRIST, and for YOUR LIBERAL SHARING WITH THEM and ALL MEN, …” (2 Corinthians 9:9 – 13, NKJV)
“… 44Now all who BELIEVED were together, and had ALL THINGS in COMMON, 45and SOLD their POSSESSIONS and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. 46So continuing DAILY with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and SIMPLICITY of HEART, 47praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved. …” (Acts 2:44 – 47, NKJV)
“… 32Now the multitude of those who BELIEVED were of ONE HEART and ONE SOUL; neither did anyone say that ANY of the THINGS he POSSESSED was HIS OWN, but they had ALL THINGS in COMMON. … 34Nor was there anyone among them who lacked; for ALL who were POSSESSORS of LANDS or HOUSES SOLD them, and brought the proceeds of the things that were sold, 35and laid them at the apostles’ feet; and they DISTRIBUTED to each as ANYONE had NEED. 36And Joses, who was also named Barnabas by the apostles (which is translated Son of Encouragement), a Levite of the country of Cyprus, 37having land, sold it, and brought the money and laid it at the apostles’ feet. …” (Acts 4:32, 34 – 37, NKJV)
“… 5Beloved, you do FAITHFULLY WHATEVER YOU DO FOR THE BRETHREN [B]AND FOR STRANGERS, 6who have borne WITNESS OF YOUR LOVE before the church. If you send them forward on their journey in a manner worthy of God, you will do well, 7because they went forth for His name’s sake, taking nothing from the Gentiles. 8We therefore ought to receive[c] such, that we may become FELLOW WORKERS FOR THE TRUTH. …” (3 John 1:5 – 8, NKJV)
12) The Way of God’s Perfect Will where we ‘always LACK’ is we are lacking the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle
“… (12Then He also said to him who invited Him,) “When you give a dinner or a supper, do not ask your friends, your brothers, your relatives, NOR RICH NEIGHBORS, lest they also invite you back, and you be repaid. 13But when you give a feast, INVITE the POOR, THE MAIMED, THE LAME, THE BLIND. 14And you will be BLESSED, because they cannot repay you; for you shall be REPAID at the [First]* RESURRECTION OF THE JUST.” … 21So that servant came and reported these things to his master. Then the master of the house, being angry, said to his servant, ‘Go out quickly into the STREETS and LANES of the city, and bring in here the POOR and the MAIMED and the LAME and the BLIND.’ 22And the servant said, ‘Master, it is done as you commanded, and still THERE IS ROOM.’ 23Then the master said to the servant, ‘Go out into the HIGHWAYS and HEDGES, and COMPEL THEM to COME IN, that MY HOUSE MAY BE FILLED. 24For I say to you that NONE of those men who were INVITED shall taste MY SUPPER.’ ” … … So LIKEWISE, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has CANNOT BE MY DISCIPLE. …” (Luke 14:12 – 14, 21 – 24, 33, NKJV)
“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I STILL LACK?” 21JESUS said to him, “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS.23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, NKJV)
“… 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:27 – 30, NKJV)
It’s all by ‘Relative Measure’ and so ‘God is Perfectly Fair to All’:
“… 1And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites.[a] 3So He said, “TRULY I say to you that this POOR widow has put in MORE THAN ALL; 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings [b]for God, but she OUT OF HER POVERTY PUT IN ALL THE LIVELIHOOD THAT SHE HAD.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 21:1 – 4, NKJV)
“… 46the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him HIS PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS. 47And that servant who KNEW HIS MASTER’S WILL, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. But he who DID NOT KNOW, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be BEATEN WITH FEW. For EVERYONE to whom MUCH IS GIVEN, from him MUCH WILL BE REQUIRED; and to whom MUCH HAS BEEN COMMITTED, of him they WILL ASK THE MORE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:46 – 48, NKJV)
“… … for THE HOUR IS COMING, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29And shall come forth; they that have DONE GOOD, unto the RESURRECTION of LIFE; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (John 5:28 -29, KJV)
“… 6who “will render to each one according to his deeds”: 7ETERNAL LIFE to those who by PATIENT CONTINUANCE in DOING GOOD good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; . …” (Romans 2:6 – 7, NKJV)
“… for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a STRANGER and you TOOK ME IN; … 38When did we see You a STRANGER and take You in, or naked and clothe You? … 40And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the LEAST of these My brethren, you DID it TO ME.’ … 41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting [Aeonian] fire prepared for the devil and his angels: … 43I was a STRANGER and you did NOT take Me in, … ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did NOT do it to one of the least of these, you did NOT do it to Me.’ …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:35, 38, 40, 41, 43, 45, NKJV)
“… (39Then the Lord said to him), “Now you Pharisees make the outside of the cup and dish clean, but your INWARD part is full of GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40Foolish ones! Did not He who made the outside make the INSIDE also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS [CHARITY] of SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS are CLEAN to you. . …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)
Peace to you
Greed Vs Hardwork – What’s the Difference?
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161186330752784S
Do these Verses Contradict each other?
“… IT IS VAIN for you to RISE UP EARLY, TO SIT UP LATE, To eat the BREAD OF SORROWS; For so He gives His beloved sleep. …” (Psalm 127:2, NKJV)
“… DO NOT OVERWORK TO BE RICH; Because of your own understanding, CEASE! …” (Proverbs 23:4, NKJV)
And
“… The SLEEP OF A LABORING MAN IS SWEET, Whether he eats little or much; But the ABUNDANCE OF THE RICH WILL NOT PERMIT HIM TO SLEEP. …” (Ecclesiastes 5:12, NKJV)
No!
Because these Verses only Speak against Working Hard for Prosperity and not when it is done to live out the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of Helping others as it was discussed in detail in post in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161185168527784/
The Example of a Prudent Wife confirms this Context as well because she is described to wake up early and go to sleep late by working not for prosperity and not for her own family only but also to provide for the Poor as per the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle:
“… 15She also RISES WHILE IT IS YET NIGHT,
And provides food for her household,
And a portion for her maidservants.
16She considers a field and buys it;
From [e]her profits she plants a vineyard.
17She girds herself with strength,
And strengthens her arms.
18She perceives that her merchandise is good,
And HER LAMP DOES NOT GO OUT BY NIGHT.
19She stretches out her hands to the distaff,
And her hand holds the spindle.
20She EXTENDS HER HAND TO THE POOR,
YES, SHE REACHES OUT HER HANDS TO THE NEEDY. …” (Proverbs 31:15 – 20, NKJV)
God didn’t even like Shepherds (“Pastors”) or “Prophets” who like ‘abundant gain/money’ when it’s selfish or for them only (i.e. if they don’t live any Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of sharing or giving in some way), Verses:
“… 11Yes, THEY ARE GREEDY[C] DOGS
Which never[d] have enough.
And THEY ARE SHEPHERDS
Who CANNOT UNDERSTAND;
They all look to their own way,
EVERY ONE FOR HIS OWN GAIN,
From his own territory. …” (Isaiah 56:11, NKJV)
“… Because from the least of them even to the greatest of them, EVERYONE IS GIVEN TO COVETOUSNESS; And from the PROPHET even to the PRIEST, Everyone deals falsely. …” (Jeremiah 6:13, NKJV)
Please notice the word “Covetousness” carefully in the above.
Conclusion
This is not a small sin as when God Taught about wicked having “no peace” it’s clearly related to “Covetousness” (or “loving money”) as it causes “backsliding” in Verses below (in image too):
“… 16For I will not contend forever,
Nor will I always be angry;
For the spirit would fail before Me,
And the souls which I have made.
17For the INIQUITY OF HIS COVETOUSNESS
I was angry and struck him;
I hid and was angry,
And he WENT ON [E]BACKSLIDING in the way of his heart.
18I have seen his ways, and will heal him;
I will also lead him,
And restore comforts to him
And to his mourners.
19“I create the fruit of the lips:
Peace, peace to him who is far off and to him who is near,”
Says the Lord,
“And I will heal him.”
20But the WICKED ARE LIKE THE TROUBLED SEA,
WHEN IT CANNOT REST,
Whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
21“There is NO PEACE,”
Says my God, “FOR THE WICKED.” …” (Isaiah 57:16 – 21, NKJV)
Merchandising the Gospel causes a person to be unsaved as Prophesied and Warned in these Verses:
“… By COVETOUSNESS they will EXPLOIT YOU with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. …” (2 Peter 2:3, NKJV)
Note: Deceptive Words can be for example ‘… God Will make you rich …’ and then they ‘… Exploit you …’ by receiving money from the deceived person who thinks by giving to such a person who said that will truly make them rich. Can you see it?
“… For we are not, as so MANY, PEDDLING the WORD of GOD; but as of sincerity, but as from God, we speak in the sight of God in Christ …” (2 Corinthians 2:17, NKJV)
This Verse clearly Reveals that “Many” (not few) who will “Peddle” the “Word of God” which means to “sell for making Prosperity beyond needs” from God’s Word.
They will give strange excuses like ‘… You must pay a high price to buy God’s things to honour it …’ while Christ Commanded it to be given Free in Matthew 10:8 if we really honour God’s Things. In other words, Matthew 10:8 (below) clearly Proves that to honour more God’s Things, we ought to Give it for Free:
“… Freely you have received, freely give. …” – God in Flesh, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 10:8, NKJV)
I am totally “not” fond of Christianity which merchandises the Gospel at high prices because His things are Priceless and thus must be free (as His Command in Matthew 10:8). However God in His Mercy allows Gospel things to be sold if they’re used for ministry + a “Living” (“needs” only not prosperity) for money Collected in His Name as He Said in Verses below (where the Perfect Way is still working a secular job if one can to increase one’s “reward” [please notice this word carefully in the below] as God Counts in Relative Measure to be Fair to all):
“… 14Even so the LORD HAS COMMANDED that those who preach the gospel should LIVE FROM THE GOSPEL. 15But I have used none of these things, nor have I written these things that it should be done so to me; … 18What is MY REWARD then? That when I preach the gospel, I may present the GOSPEL OF CHRIST WITHOUT CHARGE, that I may not abuse my authority in the gospel. …” (1 Corinthians 9:14 – 15, 18, NKJV)
Please be careful of Preachers who speak words of “Blessings” to refer to “God Will make you rich or Equivalent promises” because it is Warned against such Preaching in Verse below strongly:
“… For neither at any time did we use FLATTERING WORDS, as you know, NOR A CLOAK FOR COVETOUSNESS—God is witness. …” (1 Thessalonians 4:8, NKJV)
Yes, it’s not a small thing as the “Covetous” (i.e. those who love money/prosperity or equivalent) will “not” inherit the Kingdom of God and is equivalent to an “Idolater”, Verses:
“…For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor COVETEOUS man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. …” (Ephesians 5:5, NKJV)
“If we Christians would join the Wise Men, we must close our eyes to all that glitters before the world and look rather on the despised and foolish things, help the poor, comfort the despised, and aid the neighbor in his need.”
—Martin Luther, First Champion of the Protestant Faith
Source
https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/quotes/
Peace to you
Doctrine of Sanctification – Cleansing Outward and Inward
Question
Can you explain sanctification to me?
Reply
- i) Outward Cleansing via abstinence from Sin
“… 9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [b]homosexuals, nor [c]sodomites, 10nor thieves, NOR COVETOUS, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU. BUT YOU WERE WASHED, but YOU WERE [D]SANCTIFIED, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. …” (1 Corinthians 6:9 – 11, NKJV)
“… for it is SANCTIFIED by the WORD of GOD and PRAYER. …”” (1 Timothy 4:5, NKJV)
- ii) Inward Cleansing (All too) via Almsgiving
“… 39Then the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees make the OUTSIDE OF THE CUP and DISH CLEAN, but YOUR INWARD PART is full of [k]GREED and WICKEDNESS. 40FOOLISH ones! Did not He who made the outside make the inside also? 41But rather GIVE ALMS of [l]SUCH THINGS AS YOU HAVE; then indeed ALL THINGS ARE CLEAN TO YOU. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 11:39 – 41, NKJV)
“… Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and BREAK OFF THY SINS BY RIGHTEOUSNESS, and THINE INIQUITIES BY SHEWING MERCY TO THE POOR; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity. …” – Blessed and Holy Prophet Daniel (Daniel 4:27, KJV based on the Masoretic Text)
Source: https://biblehub.com/daniel/4-27.htm
Compare:
” … 27Therefore, O king, let my counsel please thee, and ATONE FOR THY SINS BY ALMS, and THINE INIQUITIES BY COMPASSION ON THE POOR: it may be God will be long-suffering to thy trespasses.” … – Blessed and Holy Prophet Daniel (Daniel 4:27, Brenton Septuagint Translation, based on the Septuagint or LXX)
Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/daniel/4.htm
“… 14But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I WORSHIP THE GOD OF MY FATHERS, BELIEVING ALL THINGS which are WRITTEN IN THE LAW AND IN THE PROPHETS. 15I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept, that there will be a resurrection [e]of the dead, both of the just and the unjust. 16This being so, I myself always strive to have a conscience without offense toward God and men. 17“NOW AFTER MANY YEARS I CAME to BRING ALMS AND OFFERINGS TO MY NATION, 18in the midst of which some Jews from Asia FOUND ME PURIFIED IN THE TEMPLE, neither with a mob nor with tumult. 19They ought to have been here before you to object if they had anything against me. 20Or else let those who are here themselves say [f]if they found any wrongdoing in me while I stood before the council, 21unless it is for this one statement which I cried out, standing among them, ‘Concerning the resurrection of the dead I am being judged by you this day.’ ” …” – Blessed St. Paul the Great Apostle of Christ (Acts of the Apostles, 24:14 – 21, NKJV)
Note: Please notice that “Alms = CHARITY DOCTRINE” and Blessed Apostle St. Paul did it for “Purification” (Doctrine of Sanctification).
Conclusion
In simple words: Live Holy and Love others in Action (that’s the Sanctification Doctrine).
Our “Sanctification” determines öur inheritance level in His Kingdom” so may each “work out his/her own Salvation with fear and trembling”, Verses:
“… “So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to BUILD YOU UP and GIVE you an INHERITANCE among all those who are SANCTIFIED. …” (Acts 20:32, NKJV)
“… Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, WORK OUT YOUR OWN SALVATION with FEAR and TREMBLING; …” (Philippians 2:12, NKJV)
Peace to you
Is there a Second Chance in the Spirit World for some unbelievers?
The general consensus in Christianity is that the Gospel cannot be preached to the dead and that there is no more Hope of any type when a person dies unsaved. But general consensus is also “Prayers to Virgin Mary”, “Selling of Indulgences for forgiveness of sins” etc as well. So, the Doctrine that Prevailed may not necessarily mean truth and vice versa.
I am NOT sure but the spirits in prison in the past which rejected Noah’s preaching on earth got a second chance (1 Peter 3:18 – 19, Verse in image too). So let God Decide if others get a second chance likewise as per the First Christianity quote below too:
“… 18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring [f]us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison, 20who formerly were disobedient, [g]when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. …” (1 Peter 3:18 – 20, NKJV)
“… What occasion will we still have for weeping? On the contrary, will not what has happened to us, thanks to the Savior, cause us boundless rejoicing? He it was Who showed the way of salvation not only to us, but also went as herald to the once disobedient spirits of the underworld, as Peter says (1 Pet. 3:19-20). For it would not have done for His loving-kindness to be shown only to some; the manifestation of the gift had to extended to all of nature. For He spoke opportunely through the Prophets, “One part shall be rained upon, and the part on which I shall not rain shall be dried up.” (Amos 4:7) But the word which befits the Savior is: “Come to me, all you who labor and are weary, and I will give you rest.” (Mt. 11:28) Having proclaimed His message, then, to the spirits in the underworld and having said to those in fetters, “Come forth!” and to those in darkness, “Show yourselves!” (cf. Isa. 49:9) He raised up the temple of Himself in three days, (cf. Jn. 2:19) and renewed for nature even the ascent into heaven, presenting Himelf to the Father as a kind of first-fruits of humanity, having endowed those on earth with a share of the Spirit as a pledge of grace. (cf. 2 Cor. 5:5) (Festal Letter 2.8.) …” …” – Blessed St. Cyril, Patriarch of Alexandria, Titles: The Pillar of Faith; Seal of all the Fathers; Bishop, Confessor, and Doctor of the Church (c. 376 AD – c. 444 AD)
Source:
https://classicalchristianity.com/category/holyfathers/post-mortem/
More Details in link below on this “Possibility”:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10159663526522784
How is this Fair? The “Scripture Level Shepherd of Hermas* writing” in First Christianity also mentions something similar but these saved ones will NOT be anywhere equal to those who are “believers” as it is discussed in detail in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10159439820392784
Example Quote:
“… The text of the list [Muratorian Canon] itself is traditionally dated to about 170 because its author refers to Pius I, bishop of Rome (140—155), as recent: But Hermas wrote The Shepherd “most recently in our time”, in the city of Rome, while bishop Pius, his brother, was occupying the chair of the church of the city of Rome. And therefore it ought indeed to be read; but it cannot be read publicly to the people in church either among the Prophets, whose number is complete, or among the Apostles, for it is after their time. …”
Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muratorian_fragment
and
“… The Muratorian fragment is a list written c. 170 AD (although some scholars now question this date and prefer to assign the fragment to the 4th century.[12]) that may be the earliest known canon of New Testament writings. It identifies Hermas, the author of The Shepherd, as the brother of Pius I, bishop of Rome: But Hermas wrote The Shepherd very recently, in our times, in the city of Rome, while bishop Pius, his brother, was occupying the chair of the church of the city of Rome. And therefore it ought indeed to be read; but it cannot be read publicly to the people in church either among the Prophets, whose number is complete,[13] or among the Apostles, for it is after their time.The Liberian Catalogue of Popes, a record that was later used in the writing of the Liber Pontificalis, states in a portion under the heading of 235: “Under his [Pius’] episcopate, his brother Ermes wrote a book in which are contained the precepts which the angel delivered to him, coming to him in the guise of a Shepherd.” …”
Source:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shepherd_of_Hermas
*Note: Shepherd of Hermas writing is never condemned in any First Christianity and was accepted as “Scripture” but to be a “secret” as even the First Oldest Christian Bible Canon called the Roman Canon/Muratorian Canon mentions this and I rather be safe then simply calling this Writing wrongly for if it is from God, then condemning it may be a type of ‘Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit’ (if God Decides so) as discussed in the 2nd half of the post in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10159121203392784
So thus the ‘Safe Route Scripturally’ is being ‘Neutral’ concerning ‘Hidden things’ as 1 Corinthians 4:5 advices. Link below shows how many éarliest authoritative Christians endorse the “Shepherd of Hermas” as “Scripture” (thus if Hell is Eternal, it is Eternal for some only):
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10159439820392784
Conclusion
This is a “possibility” and “not doctrine” as I cannot be 100% sure either way.
Regarding the Bible Canon may point to more books in First Christianity, please consider the post below as a “possibility” too as no one can be sure either:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161025532832784
Peace to you
Preaching the Gospel Mystery – What is the Gospel?
Source Post:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161193267457784&id=651792783
Question
Don’t you think it is more Christ-honoring to encourage to people to obey God’s command to repent and trust Christ here and now than to stake their eternal destiny on an improbable afterlife second chance?
Reply
1) We preach Repentance. No one’s eternal destiny is at stake as Salvation is by election and those who are meant to believe will believe and be Saved as the Parable of the Good Samaritan reveals with the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle (Luke 10:25 – 37) where a “Samaritan” is certainly someone with an Imperfect Knowledge of God (John 4:22 – 23).
2) Whether God Shows Mercy on the Spirit World it is most likely evidenced by a person showing the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle on earth as per Matthew 25:31 – 46 which certainly includes the 1000 years Millennial Reign timeline (Revelation 20:4 – 8) toward “sinners” (Isaiah 65:20) where all the Christians are already Resurrected proving that these constitute of those who are not elect (Revelation 20:5).
3) All the Elect will be in the First Resurrection (Revelation 20:4 – 6) unless if Matthew 25:31 – 46 is about the elect also, then there is two badges of elect which is unfair I think contradicting the only “one gathering of elect” described in 1 Thessalonians 4:15 – 18.
4) The “faith” aspect of Salvation consists of believing 1 Corinthians 15:1 – 11 which doesn’t have any ‘Eternal Hell nor Universalism’ in it and so erring on these things do not affect Salvation. So the “Faith” part of the Gospel is only this and we Preach it likewise, Verses (in full):
“… 1Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 3For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He was seen by [a]Cephas, then by the twelve. 6After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have [b]fallen asleep. 7After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. 8Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time. 9For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed. …” (1 Corinthians 15:1 – 11, NKJV)
5) The “Works” aspect of Salvation is “Keeping Holy” (which is a Work of the Law, 1 Corinthians 6:9 – 11) and living out the Charity Doctrine (Works of Love, Luke 10:25 – 37, Luke 11:39 – 41) for “fruits of repentance” (Luke 3:7 – 14 which certainly includes the Charity Doctrine as Luke 3:11 points clearly as “… He who has two tunics, let him give to him who has none; and he who has food, let him do likewise.” …”) without which a “Lawless” Conversion as an End time Christianity which “converts many” is Denied in Matthew 7:20 – 24 despite doing “… prophesying, casting out demons and miracles …” which God Didn’t Count as “Good Works” by itself.
No one is saying Salvation is earned. It’s the fruits that demonstrates Salvation which Verses point to Holiness and the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle.
Peace to you
Resurrection Theology – Is there Hope for some non-Christians at least if Hell is Eternal?
Well actually we know that some of them may be saved as Peter actually replied this:
“… 34Then PETER opened his mouth and said: “In TRUTH I perceive that GOD shows no partiality. 35But in EVERY NATION WHOEVER FEARS HIM and WORKS RIGHTEOUSNESS is ACCEPTED BY HIM. …” (Acts 10:34 – 35, NKJV)
And some of them who are saved, never believed on earth as this Verse includes them together with Romans 2:14 – 16. We also know of Sinners during the future millennial reign (Isaiah 65:20) who will be saved (Revelation 20:5) but not as the elect Salvation (which is complete before this Millennial Reign begins, Revelation 20:4 – 8.) who are those who did “Good Deeds” according to Christ for these remaining unresurrected ones in the tombs (John 5:28 – 29 who rise simultaneously with some wicked, Daniel 12:2 too).
This badge of righteous which rises simultaneously with the wicked most likely cannot refer to the Christian resurrection at all because:
1) All Christians partake of the First Resurrection and the Wedding of the Lamb in the only one gathering of the Elect
“… 4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for [a]a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. …”(Revelation 20:4 – 6, NKJV)
“… 13But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. … 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. … ” (1 Thessalonians 4:13, 16 – 17, NKJV)
2) Non-Christians do “not” partake of the First Resurrection
“… But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. …” (Revelation 20:5, NKJV)
3) The First and Second Resurrection are 1000 years apart where the latter is “Judgment Day”
“… But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 7Now when the thousand years have expired, … 11Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before [c]God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second [d]death. 15And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. …” (Revelation 20:5, 7, 11 – 15)
Note: Judgment Day Verses point to ‘Possible Salvation’ toward non-Christians who did the Charity Doctrine toward Christians and Millennial Reign mortal Jews (Matthew 25:31 – 36).
“… 28Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. …” (John 5:28 – 29, NKJV)
“… And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt. …”(Daniel 12:2, NKJV)
“… 31“When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the [c]holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. 33And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; 36I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’ 37“Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? 38When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? 39Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ 40And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’ 41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’ 44“Then they also will answer [d]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 25:31 – 46, NKJV)
4) First Christianity Champion of the Faith, St. Justin Martyr believed in this Timeline likewise (however his position on whether any from the Second Resurrection can be saved cannot be determined for sure), to quote:
“… But I and others, who are right-minded Christians on all points, are assured that there will be a resurrection of the dead, and a thousand years in Jerusalem, which will then be built, adorned, and enlarged, the prophets Ezekiel and Isaiah and others declare. For Isaiah spake thus concerning this space of a thousand years: ‘For there shall be the new heaven and the new earth, and the former shall not be remembered, or come into their heart; but they shall find joy and gladness in it, which things I create’…For as Adam was told that in the day he ate of the tree he would die, we know that he did not complete a thousand years. We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, ‘The day of the Lord is as a thousand years,’ is connected with this subject [2 Peter 3:8, Psalm 90:4]. And further, there was a certain man with us, whose name was John, one of the apostles of Christ, who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, THAT THOSE WHO BELIEVED IN OUR CHRIST would dwell a THOUSAND YEARS in Jerusalem [Revelation 20:4 – 10]; and that thereafter the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment of all men would likewise take place [Revelation 20:11 – 15]. Just as our Lord also said, ‘They shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be equal to the angels, the children of the God of the resurrection. [Luke 20:35 – 36] …” – Blessed St. Justin Martyr, a Great Early Christian Apologist who is a Foremost Exponent of the Divine Word, who Influenced Virtually all of subsequent Christian philosophy and Catholic theology, Martyr for Christ (c. 100AD – c. 160 AD, Dialogue with Trypho the Jew, CHAPTER LXXXI)
Source:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-dialoguetrypho.html
Conclusion
Possibility: So they will be saved may also include ‘Spirit World’ Salvation as discussed in link prior* as per 1 Peter 4:6 to such. Let God Decide their case for if they are not saved, there’s nothing we can do either. I could be wrong but it doesn’t matter as it’s a ‘possibility’ only.
*Previous related post link:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161193267457784
Peace to you
First and Second Resurrection – Facts and Possibilities Discussion
Firstly, please encourage Good Works of the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of Sharing and Giving toward family, friends, strangers and enemies. Why? Verse (Context refers to actual “Work of Servitude in Secular Work primarily”):
“… 5Bondservants, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ; 6not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, DOING THE WILL OF GOD FROM THE HEART, 7with GOODWILL DOING SERVICE, as to the Lord, and not to men, 8knowing that WHATEVER GOOD ANYONE DOES, he will RECEIVE THE SAME FROM THE LORD, whether he is a slave or free. …” (Ephesians 6:5 – 8, NKJV)
Comment: Please notice carefully that this type of “Good Works of Servitude which certainly includes giving, sharing & walking the extra mile” using one’s God Given Work Ability or Skills beyond paid work only in “service toward others’ is called “… DOING THE WILL OF GOD FROM THE HEART, …” when in our mind we do it to men outwardly but in the heart, we do it THINKING THAT WE ARE DOING IT FOR CHRIST HIMSELF.
Please notice the phrase “… DOING THE WILL OF GOD FROM THE HEART …” (Ephesians 6:6) which is closely connected to this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of Servitude even in Work and we know that those who “do not do the Will of the Father in Heaven” (Matthew 7:20 – 24) do NOT participate in the First Resurrection (Revelation 20:4 – 6) despite having converted “MANY” (please notice this word carefully in Matthew 7:22 below) Via “… Casting out demons, Prophesying and doing miracles … IN HIS NAME …” which are thus clearly not counted as “Good Works” in itself due to “Lawlessness” too:
“… 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but HE WHO DOES THE WILL OF MY FATHER IN HEAVEN. 22MANY will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not PROPHESIED in Your name, CAST OUT DEMONS in Your name, and DONE MANY WONDERS in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS! …’” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:20 – 23, NKJV)
So since the “WILL OF GOD” includes Living this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle in the Work aspect (Ephesians 6:5 – 8) which connects it to the requirement of “Doing the Will of the Father” in Matthew 7:20 – 24, we ought to obey these verses as well to Please God:
“… 20For I say to you, that unless YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS EXCEEDS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by NO MEANS ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:20, NKJV)
As discussed in Previous posts (example in link below, next), there’s a “possibility” (not Doctrine) of understanding this Phrase of “not entering the Kingdom of Heaven” as referring to not inhabiting the “City, Paradise nor the Heavens” which may only be for the Christian Salvation (of the ‘First Resurrection’, Revelation 20:4 – 6) while the rest if the “non-Elect Salvation exists” they may only live on the earth post-Resurrection and some of them may visit the ‘lowest’ part of Heaven which is the “New Jerusalem City” at appointed times as per Verses below:
“… “Come, I will show you the [g]bride, the Lamb’s wife.” 10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and SHOWED ME THE [H]GREAT CITY, the [I]HOLY JERUSALEM, DESCENDING OUT OF HEAVEN from God, … 24And the NATIONS [N]OF THOSE WHO ARE SAVED shall walk in its light, and the KINGS OF THE EARTH bring their glory and honor [o]into it. 25Its gates shall not be shut at all by day (there shall be no night there). 26And they shall bring the glory and the honor of the nations into [p]it. 27But there shall by no means enter it anything [q]that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. …” (Revelation 21:9 – 10, 24 – 27, NKJV)
Some Christians believe that this “Second Resurrection” on Judgment Day (Revelation 20:11 – 15) only includes those who are cast into the Lake of Fire as they agree that all Christians are already Resurrected 1000 years earlier (Revelation 20:5, 4 – 8). But I am not sure if they are certainly correct because if so, then Revelation 20:11 – 15 wouldn’t contain the phrase “Judged by their Works” together with the phrase “… 15And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. …” (Revelation 20:15, NKJV) where the latter seems to point that some are only Saved on Judgment Day itself if their names are in the Book of Life.
Also, the “Surprised Sheep” (of Matthew 25:31 – 46) describing this same ‘Timeline & Context’ Speaks of some Saved before this Great White Throne on Judgment Day only toward those whose “works” are “judged based on whether they did the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle toward Christians/, Millennial Reign Jews when such were hungry, thirsty, homeless, naked, etc.”. Now this may not refer to Christians because being Saved 1000 years earlier (in the First Resurrection, Revelation 20:4 – 6), why would they be “Surprised on being Saved on Judgment Day”?
Apart from that, the phrase “… 24And the NATIONS [N]OF THOSE WHO ARE SAVED shall walk in its light, and the KINGS OF THE EARTH bring their glory and honor [o]into it …” (Revelation 21:24, NKJV) seems to indicate that these are NOT THE BRIDE (Christians who dwell in the ‘New Jerusalem already’, Revelation 21:10) but may be the “non-Elect Salvation” toward those who were just saved on Judgment Day. Please also notice that these who are Saved on Judgment Day seem to be Saved in their resurrection to live on the New Earth only (as the word “earth” & “bring their glory and honour into it” referring to Visiting the New Jerusalem City in Revelation 21:24 indicates) & are permitted to visit the New Jerusalem City only and they inherit heaven by this visits only & return to earth later. Is such an interpretation correct? I honestly don’t know but it’s “possible” as was discussed further in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161195380517784
Regarding this non-Elect Salvation possibility, I could be wrong and this part is a discussion and not Doctrine.
Now, regarding the Christian Salvation to include the “inherit the Heavens” part was well known in First Christianity by the direct Disciple of Blessed Apostle St. John who wrote these quoted Verses itself, to quote:
“… As the presbyters say, then those who are deemed worthy of an abode in heaven shall go there, others shall enjoy the delights of Paradise, and others shall possess the splendour of the city; for everywhere the Saviour will be seen, according as they shall be worthy who see Him. But that there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce an hundredfold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold; for the first will be taken up into the heavens, the second class will dwell in Paradise, and the last will inhabit the city; and that on this account the Lord said, “In my Father’s house are many mansions:” …” – Blessed St. Papias, Bishop of Hierapolis, an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of the Blessed St. John the Apostle (c. 60 AD – c. 163 AD)
Source:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/papias.html
Note: We know that the Roman Catholics did “not” tamper with these quotes because they do NOT believe in these “Chiliasm” quotes (e.g. by St. Justin Martyr in link above) but they believe that we are living in the 1000 years Millennial Reign now by interpreting Scripture allegorically (weirdly) which in the “Comments” of link above, I explained why this cannot be the case at all.
Even St. Irenaeous of Lyons has this Same Quote and says that this was Taught by the “Direct Disciples of the Apostles of Christ”, to quote:
“… And as the presbyters say, Then those who are deemed worthy of an abode in heaven shall go there, others shall enjoy the delights of paradise, and others shall possess the splendour of the city; for everywhere the Saviour shall be seen according as they who see Him shall be worthy. [They say, moreover], that there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce an hundred-fold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold [Matthew 13:1 – 8, Matthew 13:18 – 23]: for the first will be taken up into the heavens, the second will dwell in paradise, the last will inhabit the city; and that was on this account the Lord declared, “In My Father’s house are many mansions.” For all things belong to God, who supplies all with a suitable dwelling-place; even as His Word says, that a share is allotted to all by the Father, according as each person is or shall be worthy. And this is the couch on which the guests shall recline, having been invited to the wedding. The presbyters, the disciples of the apostles, affirm that this is the gradation and arrangement of those who are saved, and that they advance through steps of this nature… For in the TIMES of the KINGDOM, the righteous man who is upon the earth shall then forget to die. … John, therefore, did distinctly foresee the FIRST “RESURRECTION of the JUST,” [Revelation 20:4 – 6, 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 18, Luke 14:14] and the inheritance in the kingdom of the earth; and what the prophets have prophesied concerning it harmonize [with his vision, e.g. Isaiah 65:20 – 23, Isaiah 11, Revelation 20:7 – 10]. For the Lord also taught these things, when He promised that He would have the mixed cup new with His disciples in the kingdom. …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, Book 5, Chapter Chapter XXXVI, Points 1 – 2, 3-partial)
Source:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html
Another Note: Both these saints have “no” prayers to Virgin Mary nor saints or equivalent and so Protestants may consider them without refrain too.
Returning to this Topic, these similar words are found in Verses below which speak of the CONTEXT of ANY GOOD WORK if we do it THINKING we are DOING IT FOR CHRIST, it affects the “REWARD OF OUR INHERITANCE in HIS KINGDOM” and that’s why “Good Works Theology of sharing/giving/servitude in secular work is important to be Taught & Practiced too” (this is the best explanation for “Relative Measure” in that we do based on what our skill is as it’s described in these Verses):
“… 22Bondservants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in sincerity of heart, fearing God. 23And WHATEVER YOU DO, DO IT HEARTILY, AS TO THE LORD AND NOT TO MEN, 24KNOWING THAT FROM THE LORD YOU WILL RECEIVE THE REWARD OF the INHERITANCE; for[a] you serve the Lord Christ. 25But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality. …” (Colossians 3:22 – 25, NKJV)
If we cannot do the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle via our Work because we are poor or due to old age or any other inability to work, God Knows and that’s why the Verse below rings likewise even in the Context of a “Widow” (how much more men are required to Fulfill these “Will of God” in their lives), Verses:
“… 9Do not let a widow under sixty years old be taken into the number, and not unless she has been the wife of one man, 10WELL REPORTED FOR GOOD WORKS: if she has BROUGHT UP CHILDREN, if SHE HAS LODGED STRANGERS, if she has washed the saints’ feet, if SHE HAS RELIEVED THE AFFLICTED, if she has DILIGENTLY FOLLOWED EVERY GOOD WORK. …” (1 Timothy 5:9 – 10, NKJV)
Peace to you
Matthew 25 and the Possibility of Salvation for some non-Christians if Hell is Eternal
Again, I am discussing this “Possibility” (not Doctrine because many Christians don’t see it this way & I consider that they could be right is a higher possibility and thus it’s not Doctrine to respect that) to try to see if the Verses can mean this:
1) Christian Salvation (Matthew 25:1 – 13) – The Elect
Matthew 25:1 – 13 (Parable of the 5 Wise and 5 Foolish Virgins) refers to the “Elect (Christian) Salvation” which is “Faith based” & “Work Proven by its Fruits” as the Gift of God toward them by His Mercy called the “First Resurrection” (Revelation 20:4 – 8.) and the “Marriage of the Lamb” (Revelation 19:6 – 10) which occurs after the “Second Coming of Christ” when He Destroys the Antichrist first (Revelation 19:11 – 21) and Gathers all the Elect in One Salvation for their Resurrection (Mark 13:24 – 27, 1 Thessalonians 4:15 – 18) & locks Satan up for 1000 years in the Bottomless Pit (Revelation 20:1 – 3).
2) The Possible non-Christian Salvation for some Millennial Reign Jews (Matthew 25:14 – 30) – The non-Elect
Matthew 25:12 – 30 (Parable of the Talents) refers to the Judgment of the Millennial Reign “mortal/sinners Jews” (Isaiah 65:20) during the 1000 years timeline after the Second Coming of Christ which is “Work based” (How responsibly one uses one’s “Talent” by relative measure of what’s given, Matthew 25:21 – 23, 30) because the Second Coming of Christ has occurred at that time and so, it’s not faith because “faith” is only when we believe before seeing (Definition in Hebrews 11:1) and the number of Elect is already complete before this 1000 years as discussed above in point 1. This Saved Jews are based on “Works” as Christ Declares in Matthew 25:22 – 23 and is also proof that there is a Salvation which occurs 1000 years after the First Resurrection as these people belong to the class of the “… the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. …” (Revelation 20:5, NKJV). Another interesting point here is when the Master/Christ approves a Mysterious Quote namely “… 26“But his lord answered and said to him, ‘You wicked and lazy servant, you knew that I reap where I have not sown, and gather where I have not scattered seed. …” (Matthew 25:26, NKJV) which St. Jerome of the Vulgate has declared it to mean that the Lord accepts the “Righteous Gentiles & Philosophers” who did not have the “Gospel Sowed in them” but He Reaps their “righteous lives” by His Mercy as discussed in earlier posts*.
3) The Possible non-Christian Salvation for some Millennial Reign Gentiles (Matthew 25:31 – 46) – The non-Elect
Matthew 25:31 – 46 refers to Christ Judging the Gentiles or Nations next on Judgment Day on the Throne of His Glory (Matthew 25:31, Revelation 20:11) based on their “works” (Revelation 20:11 – 15). Satan is the first to be thrown into the Lake of Fire after the 1000 years Millennial Reign of Christ where he deceives one last time (Revelation 20:7 – 8.). Those who sin including “unbelievers” of the Millennial Reign timeline are referred to be cast into the Lake of Fire (Revelation 21:8) which could point to “not believing even after seeing” as even the non-Canonical Book of 1Enoch has Prophesied a Judgment Day chance which Bible Verses such as Zephaniah 3:8 – 9 and Isaiah 45:21 – 23 may point to some given a chance to believe on Judgment Day as an example of “believing after seeing the Risen Christ” which is less blessed than believing without seeing (John 20:28 – 29, 1 Peter 4:6’s Gospel Preached to the Dead possibility too).
Yes the definition of “unbelievers” may only refer to those who have “seen Christ” but yet choose not to believe as His Words Echo here “… 36But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. …” (John 6:36, NKJV). In this same Topic/Context, Christ Continues “… 37All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will [f]by no means cast out. … 40And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.” …” (John 6:37, 40, NKJV) which since He Contrast with John 6:36 it may point to the “believing after seeing Him” as John 6:40 calls it the “Will of the Father” which causes “Everlasting Life” which can refer to Spirit World Salvation (1 Peter 4:6 too) because some may “See Him” only after they die and this Salvation is Said to be available till the “Last Day” (in John 6:40).
The “Last Day” is the Judgment Day Timeline or by the End of the Millennial Reign Timeline and so it is “Possible” that it can include both the ‘Spirit World’ Salvation from now till then for some (e.g. if 1 Peter 4:6 means this as some claim) or it can refer to the ‘one last chance on Judgment Day or Last Day to see Him & Believe for everlasting life’ (John 6:40 with Zephaniah 3:8 – 9, Isaiah 45:21 – 23 with the Book of 1Enoch quote could mean this as discussed in earlier posts*). We also see that these Gentile Righteous or the “Surprised Sheep” Saved only on Judgment Day (Matthew 25:31 – 46) did the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Acts toward the “Millennial Reign Jews” but also toward “Christians” who are Christ’s Brothers and Sisters (Matthew 12:50).
Please notice that Christ Says that they are “Raised” (or Resurrected on the “Last Day” in John 6:40) and a Day is like a ‘thousand years’ (2 Peter 3:8, Psalm 90:4) which refers to the 1000 years Millennial Reign Prophecy (Revelation 20:4 – 8.) as that’s the “Seventh Day/Sabbath Rest” Prophecy (e.g Hebrews 4:4 – 11) where at the start of this 1000 years we have the “First Resurrection” for Christians (Revelation 20:5) while at the end of the 1000 years we have the “Second Resurrection” and Judgment Day follows (Revelation 20:7, 11 – 15) which fits the “believing after seeing for some to attain to Everlasting Life as per John 6:40” can refer to this timeline too as it includes this entire “Last Day” too.
These Saved Gentiles must include Gentiles from all timelines of human history because they are Judged on this Last/Judgment Day and so we can infer that if they helped Christians in some way to relief their ‘… Hunger, thirst, Homelessness, naked without clothes …’ allegorically can mean helping Christians survive in this world financially even, they may be Saved by “His Mercy” on this Day. They are not Saved by Works but God’s Mercy as they get a chance to believe after seeing as John 6:40 may point to this Hope being available till the “Last Day or Judgment Day”.
The fact that they did their acts of Mercy toward Christians in their lives prior whilst being unbelievers may point to God’s Mercy on them as even the Famous Bible Case of King Cyrus of Persia Reveals where Cyrus was used by God as a “Messiah” (the only Gentile ever given this title in the Bible, Isaiah 45:1) to do Acts of Mercy toward the Jews by setting them free from their earthly oppressors (Isaiah 45:1- 6) where the best Context part is that Cyrus did NOT EVEN KNOW THE TRUE GOD at all whilst doing this nor after doing this as per history and as the Verse Reads for this part as, “… THERE IS NO GOD BESIDES ME. I WILL GIRD YOU, THOUGH YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ME, …” (Isaiah 45:5, NKJV). So similarly, these “Surprised Sheep or Gentiles who are Saved on Judgment Day” (Matthew 25:31 – 46, Verse in image) may have done their acts of Mercy toward Christians by giving them business or helping them financially or with this World’s Goods by God’s Move as He Did with Cyrus, King of Persia and thus may be given the chance to believe after seeing the Risen Christ somewhere between now and the Last Day (as John 6:40 can mean this). Perhaps maybe that’s why Sadhu Sundar Singh’s Christian vision seem to point to such an occurrence in the Spirit World to some (1 Peter 4:6 too can mean this) as discussed in Previous posts*.
Many Christians believe that Matthew 25:31 – 46 refers to Christians but the fact that Christians are already saved 1000 years earlier with the fact that these seem to be just saved on Judgment Day (Matthew 25:31 – 46) and mentioned distinctly from the “Bride” or Christians who live in the Heavenly Jerusalem (Revelation 21:10, Galatians 4:26) and these “Saved ones from the nations living on the new earth” from Judgment Day’s Book of Life but visiting the part of heaven which connects to earth, the Heavenly New Jerusalem City as Described in Revelation 21:24 may further strengthen this claim. Also Righteous simultaneously with the Wicked must refer to the Second Resurrection if literally taken (John 5:28 – 29, Daniel 12:2) and Matthew 25:32’s phrase of “… and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. …” seem to point that the literal meaning is correct for both John 20:28 – 29 & Daniel 12:2 namely that this badge of ‘righteous & wicked’ Rise Together which cannot refer to the Christian First Resurrection because they Rise Alone as this Verse means “… But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. …” (Revelation 20:5, NKJV).
So the popular Christian claim of claiming that no one is saved in the Second Resurrection but all are cast to hell seems to contradict this point strongly. Also if there are two badges of Christians saved 1000 years apart, it Contradicts the one gathering of the Elect & the Marriage of the Lamb which occurs before this 1000 Millennial Reign Timeline (Revelation 20:4 – 6, 1 Thessalonians 4:15 – 18) which occurs just after the Second Coming of Christ (Mark 13:24 – 27) be where the Judgment Day Christians not being Resurrected (Revelation 20:5) miss this marriage supper of the Lamb and/or the Millennial Reign entirely and the Gathering of the Elect as the quoted Verses claim otherwise.
Conclusion
As I said, I am most likely wrong and the current dominant Christian interpretations right because so many Christians believe in those variants but there’s a small chance that this interpretation may be right at some parts, maybe? Just sharing my honest thoughts on this. Only God Knows and whatever He Decides on that Day, I accept it Heartily and since we can choose to “not judge” these Hidden Things of the Future Prophecies till they come to pass or UNTIL CHRIST (THE LORD) COMES (in His Second Coming) as per Verse below, I choose that path:
“… Therefore JUDGE NOTHING BEFORE THE TIME, UNTIL THE LORD COMES, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness and reveal the counsels of the hearts. Then each one’s praise will come from God. …” (1 Corinthians 4:5, NKJV)
*Previous Posts discussing these details for Edification (sorry I didn’t quote many verses here in full because didn’t want the post to be too long and you can easily Google those Verses or see some of them in posts in links below which may lead to other post links):
1) First and Second Resurrection – Facts and Possibilities Discussion
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161200220262784/
2) Resurrection Theology – Is there Hope for some non-Christians at least if Hell is Eternal?
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161195380517784/
3) Is there a Second Chance in the Spirit World for some unbelievers?
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161193189237784/
4) God’s Mercy and the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle link
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161192993842784/
5) Possible Judgment Day Hope? – Only God Knows
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160926103007784
6) Possible Hope for non-Christians who were Good toward Christians & the Gospel
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160629881647784
Thank you for reading.
Peace to you
Mystery of PEACE and RIGHTEOUSNESS – Why are God’s Commandments Important?
Source Post:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161216387177784&id=651792783
Verses:
“… 17Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,
The Holy One of Israel:
“I am the Lord your God,
WHO TEACHES YOU TO PROFIT,
WHO LEADS YOU BY THE WAY YOU SHOULD GO.
18Oh, that YOU HAD HEEDED MY COMMANDMENTS!
Then YOUR PEACE would have been LIKE A RIVER,
And YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS like the WAVES OF THE SEA. …” (Isaiah 48:17 – 18, NKJV)
God’s Commandments for this New Testament times are just the “Holiness Commands” & “the Charity Doctrine Commands” toward “Perfection” as Christ Himself (The Perfect One) Teaches clearly in Verses below:
“… 16Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, WHAT GOOD THING SHALL I DO that I MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE?” 17So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But IF YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.” 18He said to Him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ” 20The young man said to Him, “ALL THESE THINGS I HAVE KEPT [G]FROM MY YOUTH. What do I STILL LACK?” 21JESUS said to him, “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS.23Then JESUS said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. …” (Matthew 19:16 – 24, NKJV)
The missing part of the Great Commission is Teaching His “Commands” (not Prophecy or other things which are secondary to His “Commands”) as the phrase “…20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; …” means below:
“… 18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. …” (Matthew 28:18 – 20, NKJV)
“… 46“But WHY DO YOU CALL ME ‘LORD, LORD,’ and NOT DO THE THINGS WHICH I SAY? 47Whoever comes to Me, and hears My sayings and does them, I will show you whom he is like: 48He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:46 – 48, NKJV)
Prayer and Marriage Renunciation Lifestyle Link
Verse (in image too):
“… 5Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to FASTING and PRAYER; and come TOGETHER AGAIN so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6But I say this as a concession, NOT as a COMMANDMENT. 7For I WISH that ALL MEN WERE even as I myself. But each one has his own gift from God, one in this manner and another in that. 8But I say to the UMARRIED and to the WIDOWS: It is good for them if they REMAIN EVEN AS I AM; 9but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion. …” (1 Corinthians 7:5 – 8, NKJV)
In Verses above it’s clear that ‘FASTING and PRAYER’ is even more Powerful when it’s done by Married Couples when they DO NOT physically engage. In other words, even ‘holy marriage relations’ is not good for éffective fasting and prayer’.’ That’s why some Saints “Renounce Marriage completely “as per Christ’s Phrase “left WIFE” in His Famous “Hundredfold” Reward Verse below (Please notice the Word “Hundredfold” distinctly from Ëternal Life” in Verses below in Matthew 19:29) and may be “á Reason” why ‘God Revealed this Renunciation of Marriage Doctrine in Holy New Testament Scripture for those called for it’, Verses:
“… 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:29 – 30, NKJV)
This ‘Marriage Renunciation’ Doctrine is clearly Taught in 1 Corinthians 7 above as “better than Marriage” for “Spiritual Closeness to God”, Verses:
“… 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have TROUBLE IN THE FLESH, but I WOULD SPARE YOU. … 32But I want you to be without care. He who is UNMARRIED CARES FOR THE THINGS OF THE LORD—how he may PLEASE THE LORD. 33But HE WHO IS MARRIED CARES about the THINGS OF THE WORLD—how he may PLEASE HIS WIFE. … 37Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his [e]virgin, does well. 38So then he who GIVES HER IN MARRIAGE DOES WELL, but he WHO DOES NOT GIVE HER IN MARRIAGE DOES BETTER. …” (1 Corinthians 7:28, 32 – 33, 37 – 38, NKJV)
This is not to run down Marriage or anything but to Preach the Truth to encourage anyone called for this to follow the Path God has Assigned for them. The 144000 also are explicitly mentioned to be Virgin-Men who are ‘very close to God’ proving the importance of this Context to have a ‘fuller úndivided heart for God only’ Verses:
“… 1Then I looked, and behold, [a]a Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and WITH HIM ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY-FOUR THOUSAND, [b]having His Father’s name written on their foreheads. … . 3They sang as it were a new song before the throne, before the four living creatures, and the elders; and no one could learn that song except the HUNDRED AND FORTY-FOUR THOUSAND who were redeemed from the earth. 4These are the ones WHO WERE NOT DEFILED WITH WOMEN, FOR THEY ARE VIRGINS. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These were [c]redeemed from among men, being FIRSTFRUITS to God and to the Lamb …” (Revelation 14:1, 3 – 4, NKJV)
Note: The phrase in Revelation 14:4 äbove even in the context of including holy-marriage is called “not defiled with women” as it continues Saying in comparison that “they are Virgins” and something priestly about ábstaining from women/wife’ when doing certain service for God is also implied in this Old Testament Verse below:
“… 4And the priest answered David and said, “There is no [a]common bread on hand; but there is HOLY[b] BREAD, if the young men have at least KEPT THEMSELVES FROM WOMEN. …”(1 Samuel 21:4, NKJV)
If “Prayer and Fasting” itself is affected negatively by physical touch within sanctioned-holy marriage, purest prayer and fasting may be achieved by saints who devote a lifetime of renunciation in this aspect too as per these quoted Scriptures.
Peace to you
Clarification regarding the Renunciation of Marriage Post
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161225253892784
1) Married People are “not” allowed to simply ‘Renounce their Spouse’ with the excuse of ‘getting closer to God’ by quoting these Verses:
“… 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have TROUBLE IN THE FLESH, but I WOULD SPARE YOU. … 32But I want you to be without care. He who is UNMARRIED CARES FOR THE THINGS OF THE LORD—how he may PLEASE THE LORD. 33But HE WHO IS MARRIED CARES about the THINGS OF THE WORLD—how he may PLEASE HIS WIFE. … 37Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his [e]virgin, does well. 38So then he who GIVES HER IN MARRIAGE DOES WELL, but he WHO DOES NOT GIVE HER IN MARRIAGE DOES BETTER. …” (1 Corinthians 7:28, 32 – 33, 37 – 38, NKJV)
Why?
It’s clearly Written especially in Verse 37 – 38 that this is a “Choice” (as God’s Will is such) to Decide this Decision before Marriage.
As to whether “married persons” can renounce wives for the sake of the Gospel based on Matthew 19:29 is argumentive because though First Christianity Quotes agrees for this based on 1 Corinthians 9:5
“… 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:27 – 30, NKJV)
“… Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas? …” 1 Corinthians 9:5, KJV)
Comment: Under this prevalent view in First Christianity, Apostle St. Peter already renounce even “his wife” as he “left all” (including “his wife”, “land”, “houses”) as per the literal meaning in Verses above as Christ Declares too for the “Hundredfold” Reward (Matthew 13:8, Matthew 19:29). So, it cannot be that these same apostles are said by Apostle Paul to have ‘wife’ again in 1 Corinthians 9:5 as these were ‘sister-wives’ as First Christianity Taught as per the Original Koine Greek phrase here as discussed in an earlier post below (but regardless in 1 Corinthians 9:5 Apostle St. Paul clearly mentions to ‘remain unmarried’ as the higher way among the Apostles too to attain to a higher way or reward). Example Post discussing this view is in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161074168602784/
In other words, single people before marriage are welcome to choose this path as God’s Will allows them too (1 Corinthians 7:37 – 38) but married persons cannot divorce except for sexual immorality (Matthew 19:9) and may only keep away physically for some time for prayer & fasting reasons as per 1 Corinthians 7:5.
Regarding Renouncing Marriage for the Gospel if some claim that God Spoke to them, I choose not to judge but it’s highly unlikely as 1 Corinthians 7:37 – 38 already gives it as a choice before marriage. The choice of the apostles may be unique as these are examples of Perfect Renunciation (Matthew 19:29) and if someone claims they’re called to renounce likewise after marriage, they better be right as we will Stand before God One Day and it’s serious because by doing so such a person also affects the Renounced spouse who may not agree to the Renunciation. Let God Judge.
2) How about many Old Testament Righteous were married part?
Please note that some Old Testament Prophets were not just married but also had multiple wives and even concubines.
Example Quote:
“… In old Testament times polygamy was tolerated (Ex21:10;Deut21:15–17). but it was prohibited in New Testament (Mt19:4,5; 1Tim3:2,12; Tit1:6). Few names of polygamist prophets are— Abraham(gen16,25),jacob (gen29:16–30;24), Gideon(8:30), David(1sam25:39–44; 2sam3 2–5; 5:13; 1chr14:3) Solomon(1kings11:1–8). …”
Source:
So quoting that is “not” relevant as God’s Ruled are according to Covenant and in the New Testament now, Matthew 19:29 and 1 Corinthians 7 applies. Example Verse nullifying the past ways:
“… Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, …” (Acts 17:30, NKJV)
Regarding quoting a “married” man of God who has done much Ministry or converted many, a similar “unmarried” man of God (especially plenty in First Christianity) can be quoted for converting likewise too and conversions could be thirty-fold too while the “Hundredfold” conversions are based on Relative Measure of what you do according to what you are given as Christ Own Most Blessed Words point to in Matthew 19:29. Yes, please notice that Christ does “not” point to the “number of conversions” when He Spoke of the details of the “Hundredfold” Reward in Matthew 19:29 giving a fair chance based on our choice and what anyone can choose to do instead for the Gospel as even the Widow’s two coins case which may feed none (if any in Luke 21:1 – 4) was considered most by Relative Measure by Christ Himself proving His Fair Judgment & Reward toward all in this aspect too.
More details are discussed in Previous posts in links below:
1) Continence Race of Faith Bible Verses and First Christianity Quotes
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161223428882784/
2) Prayer and Marriage Renunciation Lifestyle Link
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161221592112784/
Peace to you
What if a husband is Wrong Doctrinally? – Can a wife correct him? – Daughters of Sarah Mystery
Question
But inside the house will a woman can teach her husband about this things if he doesn’t know about it? when a man doesn’t know exactly his authority as a head of the household…is that to be submissive is to keep quiet even if it’s wrong?
Reply
If the husband doesn’t know or if he is wrong, even then a wife is “not” permitted to try teach “nor” correct him as this Verse clearly Commands:
“… 1In the same way, you wives must accept the AUTHORITY OF YOUR HUSBANDS. Then, even IF SOME REFUSE TO OBEY THE GOOD NEWS, your godly lives will speak to them WITHOUT ANY WORDS. They will be won over 2by observing your pure and reverent lives. …” (1 Peter 3:1 – 2, NLT)
In Verses above it’s clear that the Command to wives who are right is that they win over their “wrong husbands” only by their “Godly behaviour of submission, obedience and Good Works” (as the rest of the Verses here in 1 Peter 3:1 – 6 Writes) and the Verse completely prohibits any “correction in words/conversation” by the wives toward the husbands.
In short, any ‘True Repentance’ of ‘wrong husbands’ will only come according to this Way as Holy Scripture Commands as a man-leader may choose to correct them in words say a male-Pastor but no words from even a wife is allowed by this Verse.
Thus disobedience by any “wife” by trying to “correct in words” or equivalent and that causing the husband to continue to not repent may just Condem the wife further as this Verse implies in 1 Peter 3:1.
So if a wife obeys this Verse by never trying to correct her husband in words but rather only Continues Living Godly in action by submission & Good Works with Holiness but yet if the husband does not repent, only then the husband is purely responsible for his own condemnation as the wife in such cases obeyed Scripture. Here is this Verse again in another translation and in full:
“… 1Wives, likewise, be SUBMISSIVE TO YOUR OWN HUSBANDS, that even IF SOME DO NOT OBEY THE WORD, THEY, WITHOUT A WORD, MAY BE WON BY THE CONDUCT OF THEIR WIVES, 2when they OBSERVE YOUR CHASTE CONDUCT accompanied by fear. 3Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel— 4rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the [a]incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. 5For in this manner, in former times, the HOLY WOMEN WHO TRUSTED IN GOD also adorned themselves, being SUBMISSIVE TO THEIR OWN HUSBANDS, 6as SARAH OBEYED ABRAHAM, CALLING HIM LORD, whose daughters you are IF YOU DO GOOD and are not afraid with any terror. …” (1 Peter 3:1 – 6, NKJV)
Note: a married woman is called a “Daughter of Sarah” only if she Fulfills the conditions by living a lifestyle as it is described in Verses above for “all True Biblical Godly Women” (with no special cases) even from “Ancient Times” as Holy Scripture clearly Quotes and enforces this in the New Testament now as well above. The opposite is “Lawlessness” in this aspect.
No “True Repentance” can be achieved contrary to what is Written and if there was another way, these Bible Verses (not opinions of mere men) would have revealed it. Please don’t be deceived by methods or ways of men which are “not” Written in Scripture.
Peace to you
Continence Race of Faith Bible Verses and First Christianity Quotes
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161223428882784/
1) New Testament Bible Verses
“… 28 But even if you do marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Nevertheless such will have TROUBLE IN THE FLESH, but I WOULD SPARE YOU. … 32But I want you to be without care. He who is UNMARRIED CARES FOR THE THINGS OF THE LORD—how he may PLEASE THE LORD. 33But HE WHO IS MARRIED CARES about the THINGS OF THE WORLD—how he may PLEASE HIS WIFE. … 37Nevertheless he who stands steadfast in his heart, having no necessity, but has power over his own will, and has so determined in his heart that he will keep his [e]virgin, does well. 38So then he who GIVES HER IN MARRIAGE DOES WELL, but he WHO DOES NOT GIVE HER IN MARRIAGE DOES BETTER. …” (1 Corinthians 7:28, 32 – 33, 37 – 38, NKJV)
2) Example First Christianity Quotes
“… If any one can continue in a STATE of PURITY, to the honour of Him who is Lord of the flesh, let him so REMAIN WITHOUT BOASTING. If he begins to BOAST, he is UNDONE; and if he reckon himself GREATER than the BISHOP, he is RUINED. But it becomes both men and women who marry, to form their union with the approval of the bishop, that their marriage may be according to God, and not after their own lust. Let all things be done to the honour of God….” – Blessed St. Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, an Apostolic Father of the Church being a Direct Disciple of the Blessed St. John the Apostle (c. 35 AD – c. 108 AD)
Source (Chapter 5):
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0110.htm
“… God’s holy church holds marriage sacred and honors married persons, for “Marriage is honorable and the bed undefiled.” 8 (6) < But > it regards continence as the most admirable, and commends it because it is engaged in the contest and has despised the world, as being still more powerful [than the world]. And the church believes in virginity and accords it the highest honor, because it is a thing of virtue and is fitted with the lightest wing. (7) The church has members who have renounced the world and yet are not contemptuous of those who are still in the world; they rejoice in the very great piety of such persons, as did the apostles who owned nothing themselves, < and yet did not look down on the others* >. (8) And the Savior himself owned no earthly possessions when he came in the flesh, though he was Lord of all — and yet he did not reject the women who assisted his disciples and himself. The Gospel says, “women which followed him from Galilee, ministering unto him of their substance.” 9 4,1 [If no one may own property], what is the point of “Hither to my right hand, ye blessed, for whom my heavenly Father hath prepared the kingdom before the foundation of the world. For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat; thirsty, and ye gave me drink; I was naked, and ye clothed me?” 10 (2) How could they do these things except with [the fruits of] their honest labor, and their righteously acquired possessions? 4,3 And if these people < who > have made their own renunciation and live like the apostles would mix with the rest [of us], their ways would not seem strange, or foreign to God’s ordinance. (4) And if they renounced wives for the sake of continence their choice would be praiseworthy, provided that they did not call marriage unclean, and provided that they treated the < still > married as comrades, knowing the limitation and the rank of each. 4,5 For God’s ship takes any passenger except a bandit…” – Blessed St. Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis and the ‘Hammer of Heretics’, (c. 310 AD – c. 403 AD, ‘Apostolics’, “Panarion”, Points 3.5 – 4.5, Pages 118 – 119)
Source:
https://archive.org/stream/EpiphaniusPanarionBksIIIII1/Epiphanius%20-%20_Panarion_%20-%20Bks%20II%20%26%20III%20-%201_djvu.txt
Note: St. Ephiphanius and other saints here such as St. Clement of Alexandria or St. Ignatius of Antioch all do ‘not’ have any prayers to Virgin Mary or the saints in their writings and so Protestants may consider them to know these teachings.
Furthermore I do “not” think that the Roman Catholics or Orthodox persons tampered with St. Epiphanius’ writings because they also preserved say this quote next which actually supports the Protestant position of “not” praying to any man “nor” to any man-made “iconography even if it’s an idol or image of Christ”, to quote:
“… 9. Moreover, I have heard that certain persons have this grievance against me: When I accompanied you to the holy place called Bethel, there to join you in celebrating the Collect, after the use of the Church, I came to a villa called Anablatha and, as I was passing, saw a lamp burning there. Asking what place it was, and learning it to be a church, I went in to pray, and found there a curtain hanging on the doors of the SAID CHURCH, dyed and embroidered. IT BORE AN IMAGE EITHER OF CHRIST OR OF ONE OF THE SAINTS; I do not rightly remember whose the image was. Seeing this, and being loth that AN IMAGE OF A MAN SHOULD BE HUNG UP IN CHRIST’S CHURCH CONTRARY to the TEACHING OF THE SCRIPTURES, I TORE IT ASUNDER AND ADVISED the custodians of the place to use it as a WINDING SHEET FOR SOME POOR PERSON. They, however, murmured, and said that if I made up my mind to tear it, it was only fair that I should give them another curtain in its place. As soon as I heard this, I promised that I would give one, and said that I would send it at once. …” – Blessed St. Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis and the ‘Hammer of Heretics’, (c. 310 AD – c. 403 AD, Letter LI in Jerome’s letters gives Jerome’s Latin translation, made at Epiphanius’ request, of his letter, originally in Greek from c. 394, “From Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis, in Cyprus, to John, Bishop of Jerusalem”)
Source:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphanius_of_Salamis
So if Protestants can easily accept the quote above by St. Epiphanius as truth, perhaps they should likewise agree to his other preserved quotes of his likewise too such as the one before this and the next one too regarding “Continence Doctrine”; So, Can a Christian who was a non-Virgin repent and be part of this Continence Contest of Faith?
Yes. In such cases, his ‘continence’ is called his ‘second dignity’ but he has to ‘labor in penance’ in some way first, to quote:
“… (8) And as one who has fallen from virginity has continence for a second dignity, so he who has fallen into major sin after baptism has < reform > for a second healing — not as virtuous as the first, but he has the second healing he has received, one not thrust out from life. God’s word, then, does not deny the reward of those who labor in penance…” – Blessed St. Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis and the ‘Hammer of Heretics’, (c. 310 AD – c. 403 AD, ‘Cathari’, “Panarion”, Points 2.6 – 2.8, Pages 105 – 106)
Source:
https://archive.org/stream/EpiphaniusPanarionBksIIIII1/Epiphanius%20-%20_Panarion_%20-%20Bks%20II%20%26%20III%20-%201_djvu.txt
Note: ” labor in penance” = punishment inflicted as an outward expression of repentance for wrongdoing. Please note that both St. Jerome of the Vulgate and St. Augustine of Hippo themselves were not virgins having lost it in their sinful lives prior and thus fit into this category too.
and
“… If one drops out of the race it is better to take a lawful wife openly, and in place of virginity do penance for a long time, and be readmitted to the church as one who has strayed and wept, and is in need of reinstatement — and not be wounded every day by the secret darts of wickedness which the devil launches at him. …” – Blessed St. Epiphanius, Bishop of Salamis and the ‘Hammer of Heretics’, (c. 310 AD – c. 403 AD, ‘Apostolics’, “Panarion”, Points 7.6, Page 122)
Source:
https://archive.org/stream/EpiphaniusPanarionBksIIIII1/Epiphanius%20-%20_Panarion_%20-%20Bks%20II%20%26%20III%20-%201_djvu.txt
Despite the fact that neither Blessed St. Augustine nor Blessed St. Jerome were virgins, St. Jerome says this Bold Declaration in that as a Repentant non-Virgin, he stands a chance to attain even the highest HUNDREDFOLD rewards too, to quote:
“… My seed shall produce fruit a hundredfold – the reward of virginity is hundredfold; of widowhood, sixtyfold, and of married life, thirtyfold. “All cannot receive the Word of God but only they to whom it is given” (Mt 19:11). Let others be eunuchs of necessity, but I [am chaste] of my own will. … Let them sew robes who have previously lost the unsown robe…” ….” – Blessed St. Jerome of the Vulgate, Second Latin Doctor of the Church who did the First Official Translation of the Bible out of Its Original Languages into Latin, Priest, Confessor, Secretary to Pope Damasus I (c. 347 AD – c. 420 AD, ‘Quotes on Marriage & Viginity’)
Source:
https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n093_Virginity.htm
“… And brings forth some an hundredfold, &c. “We must observe,” says S. Jerome, “that like as in the bad ground there were three different sorts—namely, by the wayside, the rocky, and the thorny places—so in the good ground there is a threefold diversity. And in the one as well as in the other, it is not the substance which is changed, but the will; and so it is the heart of the unbelieving as well as of the believing which receives the seed.” Moreover, the greatest fruit of God’s Word, as it were the greatest fruit of seed is a hundredfold, as if from a single grain a harvest of a hundred grains were gathered, as was Isaac’s case (Gen. xxvi. 12). The medium fruit is called sixtyfold; the lowest thirtyfold. A definite number is put for an indefinite; otherwise He might have added, brings forth some fortyfold, some twenty fold, and so on. Whence, in opposition to Jovinian and Calvin, the inequality of merit and consequently of the reward, of good works in Heaven is rightly proved. So S. Chrysostom (Hom. 45), S. Augustine (de S. Virgin. c. 46), Nazianzen (Orat. 28), and others. For the Fathers, however Calvin may deride and exclaim, apply these words especially to diverse states. 1. S. Jerome, on this passage (lib. 1, contra Jovin), and S. Athanasius (Epist. ad Ammon.), and others assign the hundredfold fruit to virgins; the sixtyfold to widows; the thirtyfold to those who live in honest and holy wedlock. 2. S. Cyprian (l. de Hab. Virg.) and S. Augustine (l. 1, de quest. Evang. quest. 9, tom 4) assign the hundredfold to martyrs, the sixty to virgins, the thirtyfold to those who are married. Hear what S. Augustine says: “I assert that the hundredfold belongs to martyrs, on account of their holiness of life, or contempt of death; the sixty fold to virgins, on account of interior quiet, because they do not need to fight against fleshly habits—for rest is wont to be granted to soldiers who are past sixty years of age; the thirtyfold to the married, because thirty is the age of warriors—for those have a sharper conflict, that they may not be overcome of lust.”3. Euthymius and Theophylact assign the thirtyfold to beginners, the sixty to those who have made some progress, the hundredfold to the perfect. So also Nazianzen (Orat. 28.) When a man proceeds, saith he, from thirty to sixty, he finishes with a hundred, as Isaac did (Gen. xxvi.) And he sings the Psalms of Degrees, going from strength to strength, and placing the Ascensions in his heart (Ps. 84.)…” – Cornelius Bible Commentary
Source: http://www.corneliusbiblecommentary.faithweb.com/13matth.htm
Are all of them ‘wrong’?
or are they right because that’s what the Verse in 1 Corinthians 7:37 – 38 means literally, right? (Verse in image too)
and
“… What then? do I condemn second marriages? not at all; but I commend first ones. Do I expel twice-married persons from the church? Far from it; but I urge those who have been once married to lives of continence. The Ark of Noah contained unclean animals as well as clean. It contained both creeping things and human beings. In a great house there are vessels of different kinds, some to honour and some to dishonour. In the gospel parable the seed sown in the good ground brings forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. The hundredfold which comes first betokens the crown of virginity; the sixtyfold which comes next refers to the work of widows; while the thirtyfold — indicated by joining together the points of the thumb and forefinger — denotes the marriage-tie. What room is left for double marriages? None. They are not counted. Such weeds do not grow in good ground but among briers and thorns, the favourite haunts of those foxes to whom the Lord compares the impious Herod. A woman who marries more than once fancies herself worthy of praise because she is not so bad as the prostitutes, because she compares favourably with these victims of indiscriminate lust by surrendering herself to one alone and not to a number…” ….” – Blessed St. Jerome of the Vulgate, Second Latin Doctor of the Church who did the First Official Translation of the Bible out of Its Original Languages into Latin, Priest, Confessor, Secretary to Pope Damasus I (c. 347 AD – c. 420 AD, ‘Letter cxxiii. To Ageruchia’)
Source:
https://biblehub.com/library/jerome/the_principal_works_of_st_jerome/letter_cxxiii_to_ageruchia.htm
or
“… Now any one may object to this interpretation, and may give another which harmonizes with the rule of faith. For as the ark was to have rooms not only on the lower, but also on the upper storeys, which were called ” third storeys,” that there might be a habitable space on the third floor from the basement, some one may interpret these to mean the three graces commended by the apostle, — ^faith, hope, and charity. Or even more suitably they may be supposed to represent those three harvests in the gospel, thirtyfold, sixtyfold, an hundredfold, — chaste marriage dwelling in the ground floor, chaste widowhood in the upper, and chaste virginity in the top storey. Or any better interpretation may be given, so long as the reference to this city is maintained…” – Blessed St. Augustine of Hippo, Doctor of the Church, who influenced virtually all of subsequent Western philosophy and Catholic theology, as well as a significant amount of Protestant theology (c. 354 AD – c. 430 AD,, Book XV, ‘City of God’, Page 99)
Source:
https://archive.org/stream/cityofgodvolumet009439mbp/cityofgodvolumet009439mbp_djvu.txt
Conclusion – Did Christ Teach it?
“… But others fell on GOOD GROUND and yielded a crop: some a HUNDREDFOLD, some SIXTY, some THIRTY. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 13:8, NKJV)
The “Left Wife” phrase and “Hundredfold” phrase in Verse below connecting these can mean this literally (please notice these “words” carefully ‘as it is Written’ in Verses below):
“… 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:29 – 30, NKJV)
“… And AGAIN THE LORD SAYS: Let the one who has married not be cast out, and let the one who has not married not marry. He who has confessed that he will not marry according to his decision of eunuchhood, let him remain unmarried….” – Blessed St. Clement of Alexandria, Head of the Cathecathical School At Alexandria (c. 150 AD – c. 215 AD, Miscellanies 3.15)
Source for ( “Agrapha ” ) Quote above:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080215124232/http://www.textexcavation.com/agrapha.html
Peace to you
Secret of Stumbling Vs not Stumbling in Faith is closely related to how much we Love others via the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle
Verses:
“… 6He who says he abides in Him ought himself also TO WALK JUST AS HE WALKED. 7[b]Brethren, I write NO NEW COMMANDMENT TO YOU, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard [c]from the beginning. 8Again, a NEW COMMANDMENT I WRITE TO YOU, which thing is true in Him and in you, because the DARKNESS IS PASSING AWAY, and the TRUE LIGHT IS ALREADY SHINING. 9He who says he is in the light, and HATES HIS BROTHER, IS IN DARKNESS UNTIL NOW. 10He who LOVES HIS BROTHER ABIDES IN THE LIGHT, and there is NO CAUSE FOR STUMBLING IN HIM. 11But he who HATES HIS BROTHER IS IN DARKNESS and WALKS IN DARKNESS, and does not know where he is going, because the DARKNESS HAS BLINDED HIS EYES. …” (1 John 2:6 – 11, NKJV)
Comment:
1) “Darkness” = not loving others
2) “Light” = Loving others
In this ‘Same Letter/Consecutive Chapter’, the Bible Verses via Apostle John Reveals this “Love” (or “Agape”) which may be equivalent to ‘Martyrdom’ as per the phrase “… lay down our lives …” not as something abstract as a feeling or empty words uttered in praise/prayer without equivalent works , indeed rather as a tangible action done with ‘this World’s Goods’ being Given/Shared with another, Verses (so that’s how this ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ is closely linked in to this Context of ‘not stumbling’ and ‘walking as He Walked in Light/Love as opposed to Darkness/Hate/selfishness as these Verses Reveal together ‘as it is Written’), to quote:
“… 16By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also OUGHT TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES FOR THE BRETHREN. 17But WHOEVER HAS THIS WORLD’S GOODS, and SEES HIS BROTHER IN NEED, AND SHUTS UP HIS HEART FROM HIM, HOW DOES THE LOVE OF GOD ABIDE IN HIM? 18My little children, let us NOT LOVE IN WORD or IN TONGUE, BUT IN DEED AND IN TRUTH …” (1 John 3:16 – 18, NKJV)
In other words the Context is very strong in Verses below that the “Faith that is Dead” refers to a ‘Faith without physical sharing of material needs toward one another’ if we take the literal Sola Scriptura approach, Verses:
“… 14What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he HAS FAITH BUT DOES NOT HAVE WORKS? CAN FAITH SAVE HIM? 15If a brother or sister is NAKED AND DESTITUTE OF DAILY FOOD, 16and one of you says to them, “DEPART IN PEACE, BE WARMED AND FILLED,” but you DO NOT GIVE THEM THE THINGS WHICH ARE NEEDED FOR THE BODY, what does it profit? 17Thus also FAITH BY ITSELF, IF IT DOES NOT HAVE WORKS, IS DEAD. …” (James 2:14 – 17, NKJV)
In Verses above Apostle James repeats this same truth namely:
i) Empty words of prayer only lifestyle without Almsgiving = “… 16and one of you says to them, “DEPART IN PEACE, BE WARMED AND FILLED,” but you DO NOT GIVE THEM THE THINGS WHICH ARE NEEDED FOR THE BODY, …” = Faith which is Dead
ii) Prayer with Almsgiving/Charity Doctrine lifestyle = “… GIVE THEM THE THINGS WHICH ARE NEEDED FOR THE BODY, …” = Faith which is Alive
iii) Please notice the ‘Giving of NEEDS only’ and so prosperity type of giving to a rich person all doesn’t count at all as an act of sharing or giving as per these phrases in the above “… NAKED AND DESTITUTE OF DAILY FOOD …” and “… GIVE THEM THE THINGS WHICH ARE NEEDED FOR THE BODY, …”
iv) Saving Faith Vs Dead Faith is clearly contrasted based on this one Context of whether or not someone Practices this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle and so whether the ‘other works of faith exists, is possible but NOT the first most important definition for a SAVING FAITH’ because this verses only mention this Context here and is evidenced by this phrase above “… if someone says he HAS FAITH BUT DOES NOT HAVE WORKS? CAN FAITH SAVE HIM? …”
Relative Measure comes in as each will be judged according to what one is given as there is no partiality with God:
“… 46the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him HIS PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS. 47And that servant who KNEW HIS MASTER’S WILL, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. But he who DID NOT KNOW, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be BEATEN WITH FEW. For EVERYONE to whom MUCH IS GIVEN, from him MUCH WILL BE REQUIRED; and to whom MUCH HAS BEEN COMMITTED, of him they WILL ASK THE MORE. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:46 – 48, NKJV)
Note: The phrase “… appoint him HIS PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS …” by Christ above means that these are “not Unbelievers” but are “Christians who are Denied & made to be worse than Unbelievers” by being beaten with “many stripes” type of Judgment. May we really see what’s Written in Holy Scripture.
Peace to you
All Prophets and Saints will Preach against the Great Spiritual Harlot of Babylon – Core Doctrine
The Message from God in this Context to “Deceived Christians” is:
“… 4And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, LEST YOU SHARE IN HER SINS, …” (Revelation 18:4, NKJV)
Selected Verses:
“… 5And on her forehead a name was written:
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
OF THE EARTH.
6I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement. … 18And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.” … 2And he cried [a]mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! 3For all the nations have drunk of the wine of THE WRATH OF HER FORNICATION, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the EARTH HAVE BECOME RICH through the [b]ABUNDANCE OF HER LUXURY.” 4And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, LEST YOU SHARE IN HER SINS, and lest you receive of her plagues. 5For her sins [c]have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. 6Render to her just as she rendered [d]to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. 7In the measure that she GLORIFIED HERSELF AND LIVED [e]LUXURIOUSLY, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ 8Therefore her plagues will come in one day—DEATH AND MOURNING AND FAMINE. And she will be utterly burned with fire, FOR STRONG IS THE LORD GOD WHO [f]JUDGES HER. … 23The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your MERCHANTS WERE THE GREAT MEN OF the EARTH, for by YOUR SORCERY ALL THE NATIONS WERE DECEIVED. 24And in her was found the BLOOD OF PROPHETS AND SAINTS, and OF ALL WHO WERE SLAIN ON THE EARTH.” …” (Revelation 17:5 – 6, 18, 18:2 – 8, 24, NKJV)
Her Major sins listed here are two things primarily:
1) Fornication type of pleasures
2) Luxury type of pleasures with abundance living
As God Echoed regarding “Sodom and Gomorrah”
in the past so it will be likewise in the “End”, Verses:
“… and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; …” (2 Peter 2:6, NKJV)
“… Look, this was the iniquity of your sister SODOM: She and her daughter had PRIDE, FULLNESS OF FOOD, and ABUNDANCE OF IDLENESS; NEITHER did she strengthen the hand of the POOR and NEEDY. …” (Ezekiel 16:49, NKJV)
In short, not helping the Poor is already a Lifestyle of Sin. Hence the Charity Doctrine is not an option for any True Believer of Christ and is a “Sin of Sodom” alongside which is the “Prosperity in Food” and “Idleness” type of Lifestyles of “Sodom” as Ezekiel 16:49 Describes above by God’s Word Directly.
Knowing God is closely related to Practicing the Opposite which is the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle’ and Righteousness as per these Ancient Verses below:
“… 15“Do you become a king because you are competing in cedar? Did your father not eat and drink And DO JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS? Then it was well for him. 16“HE PLED THE CAUSE OF THE AFFLICTED and THE POOR, then it was well. IS THAT NOT WHAT IT MEANS TO KNOW ME?” DECLARES THE LORD. 17“But your eyes and your heart Are intent only upon your own dishonest gain, And on shedding innocent blood, And on practicing oppression and extortion.” … And YOU WILL SEEK ME AND FIND ME when YOU SEARCH FOR ME WITH ALL YOUR HEART. …” (Jeremiah 22:15 – 17, 29:13, NASB)
Peace to you
Mystery of the Sons of the Father in Heaven – Who are they?
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161225005577784/
1) The “Sons of the Father” in Heaven refers only to those who participate in the First Resurrection and the 1000 years Millennial Reign of Christ (Revelation 20:4 – 6)
Verses Directly by Christ:
“… 34JESUS ANSWERED and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35But THOSE WHO ARE COUNTED WORTHY TO ATTAIN THAT AGE, AND THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD, NEITHER MARRY NOR ARE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE; 36NOR CAN THEY DIE ANYMORE, for THEY ARE EQUAL TO THE ANGELS and are SONS OF GOD, being sons of the resurrection. …” (Luke 20:34 – 36, NKJV)
Will we be counted worthy to be among these Chosen “Sons of God” to Participate in the First Resurrection?
“… For the earnest expectation of the CREATION EAGERLY WAITS for the REVEALING OF THE SONS OF GOD. …” (Romans 8:19, NKJV)
2) The “Sons of the Father” in Heaven only refers to those who Practiced the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle toward enemies too” (Verse in image too)
Verses Directly by Christ:
“… 27“But I SAY TO YOU WHO HEAR: LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, DO GOOD to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, and pray for those PRAY FOR THOSE WHO SPITEFULLY USE YOU. 29To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. 30GIVE to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods DO NOT ASK THEM BACK. 31And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise. 32“But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34And if YOU LEND to those from whom you HOPE TO RECEIVE BACK, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. 35But LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, DO GOOD, AND LEND, [h]HOPING FOR NOTHING IN RETURN; and YOUR REWARD WILL BE GREAT, and YOU WILL BE SONS OF THE MOST HIGH. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. 36Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 6:27 – 36, NKJV)
Yes, The Verses above by Christ Himself is Full of the CHARITY DOCTRINE COMMANDS such as GIVE, SHARE, LEND MONEY even toward OUR ENEMIES toward “those who will hear” as Christ Remarks beautifully as ‘fake Christians will be unable to hear this and will do the opposite and persecute their enemies either literally, economically or in other ways to preserve their way of life instead of obeying His Command in this’ (can you see it Written on the first line above itself?).
Again, it’s those Christians who practiced the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” toward enemies. Can you please see how important the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle is by Christ’s Own Most Blessed Words here’?
“… Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and NONE OF THE WICKED SHALL UNDERSTAND, but THE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND. …” (Daniel 12:10, NKJV)
Peace to you
Colossians 1:24 – A Tough Verse – What is still Lacking in Christ’s Afflictions?
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161236226617784
I think since the ‘lacking’ here means óur suffering for Christ part”, it determines our ‘Reward Level by Works of Suffering for the Gospel Commands willingly as we let Christ Live in us (“Jesus in you” concept) whilst we fulfill His Will’.
Here is Colossians 1:24 in a few translations (please note the word ‘lacking’ carefully which proves that something must be done on óur part as He Does the Work through us):
New International Version
Now I rejoice in what I am suffering for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of his body, which is the church.
New Living Translation
I am glad when I suffer for you in my body, for I am participating in the sufferings of Christ that continue for his body, the church.
English Standard Version
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church,
Berean Study Bible
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions for the sake of His body, which is the church.
Berean Literal Bible
Now I rejoice in the sufferings for you, and I am filling up in my flesh that which is lacking of the tribulations of Christ for His body, which is the church,
King James Bible
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church:
New King James Version
I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church,
New American Standard Bible
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am supplementing what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions in behalf of His body, which is the church.
NASB 1995
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body, which is the church, in filling up what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions.
NASB 1977
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I do my share on behalf of His body (which is the church) in filling up that which is lacking in Christ’s afflictions.
Amplified Bible
Now I rejoice in my sufferings on your behalf. And with my own body I supplement whatever is lacking [on our part] of Christ’s afflictions, on behalf of His body, which is the church.
Christian Standard Bible
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you, and I am completing in my flesh what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for his body, that is, the church.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you, and I am completing in my flesh what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for His body, that is, the church.
American Standard Version
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and fill up on my part that which is lacking of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church;
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And I rejoice in the sufferings that are for your sake and I fill up the want of sufferings of The Messiah in my flesh for the sake of his body, which is the church,
Contemporary English Version
I am glad I can suffer for you. I am pleased also that in my own body I can continue the suffering of Christ for his body, the church.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church:
English Revised Version
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and fill up on my part that which is lacking of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church;
Good News Translation
And now I am happy about my sufferings for you, for by means of my physical sufferings I am helping to complete what still remains of Christ’s sufferings on behalf of his body, the church.
GOD’S WORD® Translation
I am happy to suffer for you now. In my body I am completing whatever remains of Christ’s sufferings. I am doing this on behalf of his body, the church.
International Standard Version
Now I am rejoicing while suffering for you as I complete in my flesh whatever remains of the Messiah’s sufferings on behalf of his body, which is the church.
Literal Standard Version
I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up the things lacking of the tribulations of the Christ in my flesh for His body, which is the Assembly,
NET Bible
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for you, and I fill up in my physical body–for the sake of his body, the church–what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ.
New Heart English Bible
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and I am completing in my flesh what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ for the sake of his body, which is the church;
Weymouth New Testament
Now I can find joy amid my sufferings for you, and I fill up in my own person whatever is lacking in Christ’s afflictions on behalf of His Body, the Church.
World English Bible
Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and fill up on my part that which is lacking of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the assembly;
Young’s Literal Translation
I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and do fill up the things lacking of the tribulations of the Christ in my flesh for his body, which is the assembly,
https://biblehub.com/colossians/1-24.htm
Peace to you
Blessings = Spiritual Blessings = Inheritance of His Kingdom
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161225976547784
Bible Verses (Context in Ephesians 1:3 itself, Verse in image):
“… 3Blessed be the GOD THE FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, who has BLESSED us with EVERY SPIRITUAL BLESSING in the HEVAENLY PLACES IN CHRIST … 13In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14who[d] is the [e]GUARANTEE OF OUR INHERITANCE until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory. …” (Ephesians 1:3, 13 – 14, NKJV)
A Related Verse:
“… 22Bondservants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in sincerity of heart, fearing God. 23And WHATEVER YOU DO do it heartily, as to the Lord and not to men, 24knowing that from the Lord you will receive the REWARD OF THE INHERITANCE; for[a] YOU SERVE THE LORD CHRIST. 25But he who does wrong will be repaid for what he has done, and there is no partiality. …” (Colossians 3:22 – 25, NKJV)
Example First Christianity Quote:
“… “And I replied, “I do not say so; but THOSE who have PERSECUTED and do PERSECUTE CHRIST, if they do NOT REPENT shall NOT INHERIT anything on the holy mountain. But the GENTILES, who have BELIEVED on Him, and have REPENTED of the sins which they have committed, they shall RECEIVE the INHERITANCE along with the PATRIARCHS and the PROPHETS, and the JUST MEN who are descended from Jacob, even although they NEITHER KEEP the SABBATH, NOR are CIRCUMCISED, NOR OBSERVE the FEASTS. Assuredly THEY shall RECEIVE the HOLY INHERITANCE of God… and I have trampled them in FURY, and CRUSHED them to the ground, and SPILLED their BLOOD on the earth. For the DAY of RETRIBUTION has come upon THEM, and the YEAR of REDEMPTION is PRESENT. And I looked, and there was none to help; and I considered, and none assisted: and My arm delivered; and My FURY came on them, and I trampled them in My fury, and spilled their blood on the earth. …” – Blessed St. Justin Martyr, a Great Early Christian Apologist who is a Foremost Exponent of the Divine Word, who Influenced Virtually all of subsequent Christian philosophy and Catholic theology, Martyr for Christ (DIALOGUE WITH TRYPHO, CHAPTER XXVI — NO SALVATION TO THE JEWS EXCEPT THROUGH CHRIST)
Translation Source:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-dialoguetrypho.html
Conclusion
These Quotes by Christ may point to this “Inheritance in Heaven” or “Treasures in Heaven” according to the “Charity Doctrine Lifestyle lived” in His Own Most Blessed Words below, Verses:
“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. 36You are also to be like people who are waiting for their master when he RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST, so that they may immediately open the door for him when he comes and knocks. 37Blessed are those slaves whom the master will find on the alert when he comes; truly I say to you, that he will [z]prepare himself to serve, and have them recline at the table, and he will come up and serve them. 38Whether he COMES IN THE [AA]SECOND WATCH, or EVEN IN THE [AB]THIRD, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 38, NASB)
Note: The Second and Third Watch could refer to the Millennial Reign Timeline after His Second Coming toward the “Last Day” into the Judgment Day as the phrase “… .RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST …” can refer to it. So these Verses itself demonstrate why the “Charity Doctrine” is so important for the “Treasures in Heaven part as part of Seeking His Kingdom” Described by the Most Blessed Saviour Himself in Verses above (please notice the words “Charity” , “second” and “third watch” etc. Carefully in the above). Also the mysterious phrase “… RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST …” together with the phrases “… 38Whether he COMES IN THE [AA]SECOND WATCH, or EVEN IN THE [AB]THIRD, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves. …” can refer to the non-Elect Salvation during the “Last Day”(or Millennial Reign Timeline, Revelation 20:4 – 6, Matthew 25:31 – 46 etc.) simply because the “Wedding Feast” is over by then which refers to the “First Resurrection” which is 1000 years before “Judgment Day”.
“… 9“And I say to you, MAKE FRIENDS FOR YOURSELVES by UNRIGHTEOUS [D]MAMMON, that when [e]you fail, they may receive you into an EVERLASTING HOME. 10He who is faithful in what is least is faithful also in much; and he who is unjust in what is least is unjust also in much. 11Therefore IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN FAITHFUL IN THE UNRIGHTEOUS MAMMON, WHO WILL COMMIT TO YOUR TRUST THE TRUE RICHES? 12And if you have not been faithful in what is another man’s, who will give you what is your own? 13“No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:9 – 13, NKJV)
Peace to you
Second Resurrection as the non-Elect Salvation Possibility
As I said in previous posts, this is NOT Doctrine but a “Possibility””. So if Scripture can be understood in this way, then such a Hope is Possible but whatever God Decides on Judgment Day, we are ready to accept it heartily either way. Let’s begin. In Bible Verses below, Christ Commands the “… 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; …”as part of “… SEEK HIS KINGDOM …”and to “… KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT …”” to obtain the Inheritance of His Kingdom termed as the “… unfailing treasure in heaven …”via this ‘Çharity Doctrine Lifestyle’ Works, to quote:
“… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. 36You are also to be like people who are waiting for their master when he RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST, so that they may immediately open the door for him when he comes and knocks. 37Blessed are those slaves whom the master will find on the alert when he comes; truly I say to you, that he will [z]prepare himself to serve, and have them recline at the table, and he will come up and serve them. 38Whether he COMES IN THE [AA]SECOND WATCH, or EVEN IN THE [AB]THIRD, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:31 – 38, NASB)
Please notice the following Mysterious Words:
1) An Elect and non-Elect Salvation may be implied in these Verses literally
Phrase: “… 36You are also to be like people who are waiting for their master when he RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST…”
Phrase with Comment added for emphasis: “… 36You [the-Elect Salvation] are also to be like people [non-Elect Salvation, after His Second Coming & Marriage of the Lamb Revelation 19] who are waiting for their master when he RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST [this indicates that this Salvation may occur after the Wedding Feast or Elect Salvation’s First Resurrection is over during the 1000 years Millennial Reign Timeline, Revelation 20:4 – 6]…”
2) The Elect Salvation may be compared to be analogous to the non-Elect Salvation in regards to the Context of Doing this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle
Phrase: “… 36You are also to be like people who are waiting for their master when he RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST…” refers to this “Works” Context “… 31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM .…” where the only works of the Kingdom explicitly mentioned here is the Çahrity Doctrine Lifestyle’ as these phrases mean “… 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, …” and “… 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …”
3) Comment from a Previous Post for Edification
Note: The Second and Third Watch could refer to the Millennial Reign Timeline after His Second Coming toward the “Last Day” into the Judgment Day as the phrase “… .RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST …” can refer to it. So these Verses itself demonstrate why the “Charity Doctrine” is so important for the “Treasures in Heaven part as part of Seeking His Kingdom” Described by the Most Blessed Saviour Himself in Verses above (please notice the words “Charity” , “second” and “third watch” etc. Carefully in the above). Also the mysterious phrase “… RETURNS FROM THE WEDDING FEAST …” together with the phrases “… 38Whether he COMES IN THE [AA]SECOND WATCH, or EVEN IN THE [AB]THIRD, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves. …” can refer to the non-Elect Salvation during the “Last Day”(or Millennial Reign Timeline, Revelation 20:4 – 6, Matthew 25:31 – 46 etc.) simply because the “Wedding Feast” is over by then which refers to the “First Resurrection” which is 1000 years before “Judgment Day”.
4) Example Authoritative First Christianity Quotes which may point to Luke 12:38 to Point likewise to the ‘Second Resurrection’ or ‘General Resurrection’ where a ‘Second badge of Righteous is Saved’(hence non-Elect) which is different from the Elect’s “First Resurrection” Salvation which occurs 1000 years earlier (Revelation 20:5). Salvation here is participating in the Resurrection by Christ’s Mercy and Living Eternally in a sinless Body (Bodily Resurrection) thereafter.
- Blessed St. Andrew
“… Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the book oflife. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to their deeds. He says dead, (meaning) either ail people as enduring the death of the body, or those which became dead by means of transgressions, great and small, either those being such by âge or those who did more or fewer deeds of deadness and accordingly will be punished for the deeds, or great being the righteous and small being [230] the worthless sinners,1037 inferior by means of the soûl. The books having been opened dénote the deeds of each and the consciousness of each (person). The one book is (the book) of life, in which are inscribed the names of the saints. …” – Blessed St. Andreas/Andrew, Bishop of Caesarea, Earliest* Greek Patristic commentary on the Apocalypse (c. 563 AD – c. 637 AD)
Source [ Page 213, Chapter 64, Section 22 ] :
https://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/2008_constantinou_andrew-translation.pdf
Comments:
- Focus phrase from the quote above regarding those ‘Resurrected to life on Judgment Day’ rising together with the ‘ungodly & sinners’ simultaneously (Daniel 12:2, John 5:28 – 29)
“…or those who did more or fewer deeds of deadness and accordingly will be punished for the deeds, or great being the righteous and small being [230] the worthless sinners*,1037 inferior by means of the soûl. …” – Blessed St. Andreas/Andrew
*1037 This is the opinion of Oikoumenios as well (11.8.2).
- Blessed St. Andrew clearly shows the shifting of the Church from the ‘First Christianty’s Chilliast Position/Millennialism as we shall see next’ by stating that ‘the later Church in his time’ has explicitly rejected it, to quote:“… [Andrew reports other interprétations of the thousand years, including the classic justification historically given for millennialism] : Others said that after the completion of the six thousand years, the first résurrection of the dead is granted only to the saints, so that in this earth, in which they displayed endurance, they will enjoy delight and honor for one thousand years, and after that the universal résurrection will occur, not of the just only but also of the sinners [He does not dwell on millennialism but rejects it tersely: It is unnecessary to note that the Church has accepted none of these. ] …” – Blessed St. Andreas/Andrew, Bishop of Caesarea, Earliest* Greek Patristic commentary on the Apocalypse (c. 563 AD – c. 637 AD)
Source [ Page 213, Chapter 63, Text 222, Commentary 206 ] :
https://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/2008_constantinou_andrew-translation.pdf
iii. An Important Overlooked Point – The Second Resurrection believers among the Orthodox Christians in the Time of Blessed St. Andrew even
Please read the last quote by Blessed St. Andrew in “ii” above and note these following lines:
a. “… the first résurrection of the dead is granted only to the saints … [referring to Revelation 20:4 – 6, 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 18, Matthew 25:1 – 13, Matthew 7:20 – 23, Luke 20:35 – 36]” = Are all believers Saints or only those of the Hundredfold as Blessed St. Jerome/Victorinus has claimed? We shall discuss this next.
- “…and after that [1000 years or Milennium, Revelation 20:5] the universal résurrection will occur, not of the just only but also of the sinners [referring to Revelation 20:11 – 15, Daniel 12:2 and John 5:28 – 29, Matthew 25:31 – 46 literally] …” = So, these ‘other Christians’ believed that the Second Resurrection is not for the ‘condemned only as many popular theologians today suppose’ but also has a ‘second badge of righteous raised simultaneously with sinners’ as Blessed St. Andrew reports though he doesn’t believe it, can you see it?
- St. Victorinus
“…2 At this same first resurrection will also appear the City and the splendid things expressed through this Scripture. Of this first resurrection Paul also spoke to the Macedonian church, thus: For as we have thus said to you, he says, by the Word of God, that at the trumpet of God, the Lord Himself will descend from heaven for raising up; and the dead in Christ will stand first, then we who are living, as we will be taken up with Him in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we will always be with the Lord. a We have heard the trumpet spoken of; it is observed that in another place the Apostle names another trumpet. Therefore he says to the Corinthians: At the last trumpet, the dead will rise, will become immortal, and we will be changed. b He says the dead will be raised immortal for bearing punishments, but it is shown that we are to be changed and to be covered in glory. [1 Corinthians 15:52] Therefore where we hear “the last trumpet,” we must understand also a first, for these are two resurrections. Therefore, however many were not previously to rise in the first resurrection and to reign with Christ over the world [Revelation 20:4 – 6], over all nations, will rise at the last trumpet, after the thousand years, that is, in the last resurrection, among the impious and sinners and perpetrators of various kinds [Revelation 20:11 – 15]. He rightly adds, saying: Blessed and holy is he who has a part in the first anastasis: toward this one the second death has no power. For the second death is being thrown into hell. …” – Blessed St. Victorinus, Bishop of Pettau, the First and Oldest Christian Commentary on the Apocalypse of John or Book of Revelation, Martyr for Christ (c. 303 AD)
Source [‘Commentary on the Apocalypse’, circa 2nd half of the third century]:
http://www.bombaxo.com/patristic-stuff/victorinus-in-apocalypsin/
iii. Millennialism or Chiliasm
So, who is right and who are these ‘other Christians’ who believed in Chilliasm or the Millennial Reign Doctrine?
Prepare to be shocked as these ones who believed that are ‘All the Kings of Theology in First Christianity’ except for Blessed Origen, Blessed Eusebius, Blessed St. Jerome, Blessed St. Augustine and the later ones.
For example:
“… Millennialism was taught by various earlier writers such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Commodian, Lactantius, Methodius, and Apollinaris of Laodicea in a form now called premillennialism.[9] According to religious scholar Rev. Dr. Francis Nigel Lee,[10] “Justin’s ‘Occasional Chiliasm’ sui generis which was strongly anti-pretribulationistic was followed possibly by Pothinus in A.D. 175 and more probably (around 185) by Irenaeus”. … Melito of Sardis is frequently listed as a second century proponent of premillennialism.[12] The support usually given for the supposition is that “Jerome [Comm. on Ezek. 36] and Gennadius [De Dogm. Eccl., Ch. 52] both affirm that he was a decided millenarian.”[13] In the early third century, Hippolytus of Rome … Around 220, there were some similar influences on Tertullian, although only with very important and extremely optimistic (if not perhaps even postmillennial) modifications and implications. On the other hand, “Christian Chiliastic” ideas were indeed advocated in 240 by Commodian; in 250 by the Egyptian Bishop Nepos in his Refutation of Allegorists; in 260 by the almost unknown Coracion; and in 310 by Lactantius. Into the late fourth century, Bishop Ambrose of Milan had millennial leanings (Ambrose of Milan. Book II. On the Belief in the Resurrection, verse 108). Lactantius is the last great literary defender of chiliasm in the early Christian church. …”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism
My bet is on the “Millennialism” or “Chiliasm” Doctrine being True and I don’t condemn Christians who don’t believe in it because even Blessed St. Justin Martyr himself called those Christians teaching this ‘later false position’ as per Blessed Origen/Eusebius/ or even St. Andrew/ St.Augustine/ St.Jerome all who came in later are still “pure and pious faith” though they may have erred in this area: “… I admitted to you formerly, that I and many others are of this opinion, and [believe] that such will take place, as you assuredly are aware; but, on the other hand, I signified to you that many who belong to the pure and pious faith, and are true Christians, think otherwise. …” – Blessed St. Justin Martyr (c. 100AD – c. 160 AD, Dialogue with Trypho the Jew, Chapter 110)
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism
- St. Justin Martyr
“… But I and others, who are right-minded Christians on all points, are assured that there will be a resurrection of the dead, and a thousand years in Jerusalem, which will then be built, adorned, and enlarged, the prophets Ezekiel and Isaiah and others declare. For Isaiah spake thus concerning this space of a thousand years: ‘For there shall be the new heaven and the new earth, and the former shall not be remembered, or come into their heart; but they shall find joy and gladness in it, which things I create’…For as Adam was told that in the day he ate of the tree he would die, we know that he did not complete a thousand years. We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, ‘The day of the Lord is as a thousand years,’ is connected with this subject [2 Peter 3:8, Psalm 90:4]. And further, there was a certain man with us, whose name was John, one of the apostles of Christ, who prophesied, by a revelation that was made to him, THAT THOSE WHO BELIEVED IN OUR CHRIST would dwell a THOUSAND YEARS in Jerusalem [Revelation 20:4 – 10]; and that thereafter the general, and, in short, the eternal resurrection and judgment of all men would likewise take place [Revelation 20:11 – 15]. Just as our Lord also said, ‘They shall neither marry nor be given in marriage, but shall be equal to the angels, the children of the God of the resurrection. [Luke 20:35 – 36] …” – Blessed St. Justin Martyr, a Great Early Christian Apologist who is a Foremost Exponent of the Divine Word, who Influenced Virtually all of subsequent Christian philosophy and Catholic theology, Martyr for Christ (c. 100AD – c. 160 AD, Dialogue with Trypho the Jew, CHAPTER LXXXI)
Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/justinmartyr-dialoguetrypho.html
- ii) St. Irenaeous of Lyons
Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons calls the “First Resurrection followed by the Millennial Reign of 1000 years” as the “Times of the Kingdom” referring also to these Verses in Luke 12:35 – 48 too in quote below:
“… This is what the Lord declared: “Happy are those servants whom the Lord when He cometh shall find watching. Verily I say unto you, that He shall gird Himself, and make them to sit down [to meat], and will come forth and serve them. And if He shall come in the evening watch, and find them so, blessed are they, because He shall make them sit down, and minister to them; or if this be in the second, or it be in the third, blessed are they.” [Luke 12:35 – 48]. Again John also says the very same in the Apocalypse: “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the FIRST RESURRECTION.” [Revelation 20:4 – 6] Then, too, Isaiah has declared the TIME when THESE EVENTS shall OCCUR; he says: “And I said, Lord, how long? Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses be without men, and the earth be left a desert. And after these things the Lord shall remove us men far away (longe nos faciet Deus homines), and those who shall remain shall multiply upon the earth.” [Isaiah 6:11 – 13]. Then Daniel also says this very thing: “And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of those under the heaven, is given to the saints of the Most High God, whose kingdom is everlasting [age-during till the end of this age during the LAST DAY for 1000 years, Daniel 7:27], and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.” And lest the promise named should be understood as referring to this time, it was declared to the prophet: “And come thou, and stand in thy lot at the consummation of the days [Daniel 12] …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, ‘Against Heresies’, Book 5, Chapter XXXIV, Point 2)
Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html
The phrase “you yourselves be like men who wait for their master, when he will return from the wedding,” (in Luke 12:36, NKJV) “And if he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.” (Luke 12:38, NKJV) clearly implies that these Verses linked clearly to ‘servants’ mentioned in Matthew 25:14 – 30’s “For the kingdom of heaven is like a man traveling to a far country,” (Matthew 25:14, NKJV) points to the ‘Millennial Reign Time Period of 1000 years’ as the phrase “when he will return from the wedding” in Luke 12:36 (implies that these are the ‘Second Badge of Righteous’ who are NOT part of His Wedding with His Bride/Church) who are already Saved first (Revelation 20:4 – 6, Matthew 25:1 – 13) but the rest rejected (Matthew 7:20 – 23) and the Lord may Visit the Earth at least ‘three times or in three watches’ as the phrase “And if he should come in the second watch, or come in the third watch” in Luke 12:38 means as the result of them being rewarded for ‘good works’ at the End of this 1000 years in the Second Resurrection as the ‘Second Badge of Righteous too’ (Matthew 25:20 – 23, Revelation 20:11 – 15).
Indeed, these may be the Mysterious ‘Second Badge of Righteous’ where Christ Reaped (as whatever He Reaps is unto Salvation, Matthew 13:30) even where He Sowed not [the Gospel Seed, Matthew 25:24, Matthew 25:26] whose Judgment is based on ‘Good Works’ only (John 5:28 – 29, Matthew 25:31 – 40, Revelation 20:11 – 15) as His Mercy may be Extended to them (Romans 9:15) which occurs during this ‘Second Resurrection’ after the 1000 years have ended (Revelation 20:5) as Blessed St. Irenaeous’ calls this time period as the “after the times of the kingdom”, to quote:
“And in the Apocalypse John saw this new [Jerusalem] descending upon the new earth. For AFTER the TIMES of the KINGDOM, he says, “I saw a Great White Throne, and Him who sat upon it, from whose face the earth fled away, and the heavens; and there was no more place for them.” [Revelation 20:11] And he sets forth, too, the things connected with the GENERAL RESURRECTION and the judgment, mentioning “the dead, great and small.” “The sea,” he says, “gave up the dead which it had in it, and death and hell [Hades] delivered up the dead that they contained; and the books were opened. Moreover,” he says, “the book of life was opened, and the dead were judged out of those things that were written in the books, ACCORDING to THEIR WORKS; and Death and hell [Hades] were sent into the LAKE of FIRE, the SECOND DEATH.” [Revelation 20:11 – 15] Now this is what is called GEHENNA [Matthew 10:28], which the Lord styled eternal [AGE-DURING] fire [Matthew 25:31 – 46]. “And if any one,” it is said, “was not found written in the book of life, he was sent into the LAKE of FIRE. [Revelation 20:15, Revelation 21:8] … ” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 140 – c. 202 AD, Against Heresies, Book 5, Chapter 35:2)
Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html
Here is another quote of Blessed St. Irenaeous which agrees to this ‘Second Badge of Righteous by Works only’ toward ‘all the remaining dead in the tombs’ as Christ Spoke in John 5:28 – 29 in the ‘hour to come’ on the Last Day (i.e. ‘whoever’ that is not resurrected in body yet in the First Resurrection, Revelation 20:5):
“… Again, He called Lazarus “with a loud voice, saying, Lazarus, come forth; and HE that WAS DEAD came forth bound with bandages, feet and hands.” This was SYMBOLICAL of that MAN who had been BOUND in SINS. And therefore the Lord said, “Loose him, and let him depart.” As, therefore, THOSE who were HEALED were MADE WHOLE in THOSE MEMBERS which had in TIMES PAST been AFFLICTED; and the DEAD ROSE in the IDENTICAL BODIES, their limbs and bodies receiving health, and that life which was granted by the Lord, who prefigures eternal [age-during] things by temporal, and shows that it is He who is Himself able to extend BOTH HEALING and LIFE to HIS HANDIWORK, that His words concerning its [future] RESURRECTION may also be believed; so also at the END, when the Lord utters His voice “by the LAST TRUMPET,” [1 Corinthians 15:52] the dead shall be raised, as He Himself declares: “The HOUR SHALL COME, in which ALL THE DEAD which are in the TOMBS shall hear the voice of the Son of man, and shall come forth; those that have DONE GOOD to the RESURRECTION of LIFE, and those that have DONE EVIL to the RESURRECTION of JUDGMENT.” [John 5:28 – 29] – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation (‘Against Heresies’, Book 5, Chapter XIII, Point 1)
Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/irenaeus-book5.html
An Important Comment: As demonstrated, this ‘Second Badge of Righteous’ being raised to life [i.e. Soul given a Body, Bodily Resurrection] during these “after the times of the kingdom” on Judgment Day at the end of the 1000 years Millennial Reign is not referring to any Christian at all as Blessed St. Irenaeous’ earlier own quote clearly proved that he understood that all the Christians [i.e. of thirty, sixty or hundredfold fruit] are reaped in the First Resurrection itself. So, the ‘Second Badge of Righteous’ must refer to the Rejected Christians and non-Christian righteous, i.e. toward anyone who did “good works” among ‘all those who remain in the tomb’ [i.e. souls whose body still has not been raised] as Christ Remarked too in John 5:28 – 29.
- iv) St. Hippolytus of Rome
“Moreover, concerning the resurrection and the kingdom of the saints, Daniel says, “And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall arise, some to everlasting [age-during] life, (and some to shame and everlasting [age-during] contempt, Daniel 12:2).” Esaias says, “The dead men shall arise, and they that are in their tombs shall awake; for the dew from thee is healing to them.” The Lord says, “Many in that day shall hear the voice of the Son of God, and they that hear shall live.” And the prophet says, “Awake, thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.” And John says, “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION: on such the second death hath no power.” [Revelation 20:6] For the second death is the lake of fire that burneth. And again the Lord says, “Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun shineth in his glory.” And to the saints He will say, “Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” But what saith He to the wicked? “Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting [age-during] fire, prepared for the devil and his angels, which my Father hath prepared.” [Matthew 25:41] And John says, “Without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever maketh and loveth a lie; for your part is in the hell of fire.” [Revelation 21:8] And in like manner also Esaias: “And they shall go forth and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me. And their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be for a spectacle to all flesh.” [Isaiah 66:24] – Blessed St. Hippolytus of Rome, Bishop and Martyr for Christ, Hearer of Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons (170 AD – 235 AD, TREATISE ON CHRIST AND ANTICHRIST, Point 65)
Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/hippolytus-christ.html
Please note carefully how Hippolytus distinguishes between those from the ‘General Resurrection’ vs those from the ‘First Resurrection’ whilst discussing the Great White Throne of Judgment in the quote above:
How do I know that Hippolytus referred to the ‘General Resurrection’ when he quotes Daniel 12:2 as it is not so clear especially since he seems to quote both Verses which refer to the First & Second Resurrection in the same paragraph above? To quote:
Hippolytus was one of the Church of Rome’s greatest early theologians according to The Catholic Encyclopedia. Notice what he wrote in the early third century:
“… For concerning the GENERAL RESURRECTION and the kingdom of the saints, Daniel says: “And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting [age-during] life, and some to shame and everlasting [age-during] contempt.” And Isaiah says: “The dead shall rise, and those in the tombs shall awake, and those in the earth shall rejoice.” And our Lord says: “Many in that [Last] Day shall hear the voice of the Son of God, and they that hear shall live … ” (Hippolytus. On the End of the World, Chapter XXXVI. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 5. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1886. Online Edition Copyright © 2005 by K. Knight).
Yes, Hippolytus himself referred to the hope which is NOT possible for others but the Christian dead ONLY (in 1 Thessalonians 4:13) to refer to the ‘First Resurrection’ or the ‘Resurrection of the Just only’ (tying up 1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 17 to Revelation 20:4 – 6 & Luke 14:14) agreeing perfectly to our exegesis in obedience to 2 Peter 1:20 as well, as NO Prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, to quote:
“… Concerning the RESURRECTION of the RIGHTEOUS, Paul also speaks thus in writing to the Thessalonians: “We would not have you to be ignorant concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive (and) remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice and trump of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive (and) remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord. [1 Thessalonians 4:13 – 18] …” – Blessed St. Hippolytus of Rome, Bishop and Martyr for Christ, Hearer of Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons (170 AD – 235 AD, TREATISE ON CHRIST AND ANTICHRIST, Point 66)
- Can the ‘Second Badge of Righteous’ refer to ‘non-Christian good & fallen Christians too’?
Hence I may speculate (with First Christianity quote as proof as discussed in posts prior) that this Second Badge of Righteous are Saved by His Mercy according to their “Good Works only” which may primarily refer to ‘non Christian relatively good’ (as He reaps them to Salvation, Matthew 13:30 from among those whom He did not plant the Seed of the Gospel, Matthew 25:24, Matthew 25:26) which may also include some of the ‘rejected Christians prior if they did show some ‘oil’ or ‘good works’ toward their fellow men’, to quote (an example quote from a previous discussion):
“… Come, ye friends of the poor and the stranger. Come, ye who kept my love, as I am love. Come, ye who possess peace, for I own that peace. Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you, ye who esteemed not riches, ye who had compassion on the poor, who aided the orphans, who helped the widows, who gave drink to the thirsty, who fed the hungry, who received strangers, who clothed the naked, who visited the sick, who comforted those in prison, who helped the blind, … Then shall the King of kings make answer again, and say to them, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Inasmuch as ye have received those of whom I have already spoken to you, and clothed them, and fed them, and gave them to drink, I mean the poor who are my members, ye have done it unto me. But come ye into the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; enjoy for ever and ever that which is given you by my Father in heaven, and the holy and quickening Spirit. …” – Blessed St. Hippolytus of Rome, Bishop and Martyr for Christ, Hearer of Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons (170 AD – 235 AD)
Source [Appendix, XLII, XLIV]:
Blessed Hippolytus of Rome further explains that Christ looks to have Mercy according to how one has shown Mercy in their lives first toward ‘all men’ or ‘each man’ (Matthew 5:7) in his quote continued from the above as seen toward the wicked next:
“… Cleave to me, to whom every knee boweth, of things in heaven, and things on earth, and things under the earth. For all who have been negligent, and have not shown pity in well-doing there, have nothing else due them than the unquenchable fire. For I am the friend of man, but yet also a righteous Judge to all. For I shall award the recompense according to desert; I shall give the reward to all, according to each man’s labour; I shall make return to all, according to each man’s conflict. I wish to have pity, but I see no oil in your vessels. I desire to have mercy, but ye have passed through life entirely without mercy. I long to have compassion, but your lamps are dark by reason of your hardness of heart. Depart from me. For judgment is without mercy to him that hath showed no mercy. (Jam_2:13) …” – Blessed St. Hippolytus of Rome, Bishop and Martyr for Christ, Hearer of Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons (170 AD – 235 AD)
Source [Appendix, XLVII.]:
The phrase ” I wish to have pity, but I see no oil in your vessels. I desire to have mercy, but ye have passed through life entirely without mercy.” strengthens our Context Claim that those who may have Practiced Mercy among these ‘non-Christians’ can Hope for His Mercy as Christ Seeks these ‘Works of Mercy’ in them (John 5:28 – 29, Revelation 20:11 – 15) in order to show any Mercy as Blessed St. Hippolytus’ quote above rings.
“… Also, by this which this servant dared to say, “Thou reapest where thou sowedst not,” [Matthew 25:24, Matthew 25:26] we understand that the Lord accepts the good life of the Gentiles and of the Philosophers …” – Blessed St. Jerome of the Vulgate, Doctor of the Church who did the First Official Translation of the Bible out of Its Original Languages into Latin, Priest, Confessor, Secretary to Pope Damasus I (c. 347 AD – c. 420 AD)
Peace to you
If Protestants knew Church History, they would know what a ‘Man of God’ St. Athanasius truly was, for example in the resource below by even one of the most conservative modern protestants even, i.e. “Mr. John Piper” himself (please check out the link below):
https://www.desiringgod.org/messages/contending-for-our-all
Why? No one can deny that God Chose Athanasius almost single handedly to bring back the Doctrine of Trinity to the Church via his famous book titled “On the Incarnation” which we quoted a possible Christ Centered Universalism Hope too as discussed in the end of another post in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10158727899702784
St. Athanasius also played one of the most important role to decide that there are 27 books in the New Testament, example quotes:
- i) Protestant Source
“… Athanasius of Alexandria (A.D. 296-373) was the most prominent theologian of the fourth century, and he served as bishop of Alexandria. His list of canonical books was published as part of his Thirty-Ninth Festal Epistle of A.D. 367. After the list he declares, “these are the wells of salvation, so that he who thirsts may be satisfied with the sayings in these. Let no one add to these. Let nothing be taken away.” …”
Source:
http://www.bible-researcher.com/athanasius.html
or
https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-28/367-athanasius-defines-new-testament.html
- ii) Actually his same Letter/Source reveals further that though he chose 27 Books as certainly inspired, he did also accept the “Shepherd of Hermas” though not with equal level as the earlier books just like the Mysterious Muratorian Canon or Roman Canon mentioned likewise too
“… These are the springs of salvation, in order that he who is thirsty may fully refresh himself with the words contained in them. In them alone is the doctrine of piety proclaimed. Let no one add anything to them or take anything away from them… But for the sake of greater accuracy I add, being constrained to write, that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, Tobias, the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. And although, beloved, the former are in the canon and the latter serve as reading matter, yet mention is nowhere made of the apocrypha; rather they are a fabrication of the heretics, who write them down when it pleases them and generously assign to them an early date of composition in order that they may be able to draw upon them as supposedly ancient writings and have in them occasion to deceive the guileless. …” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, The 39th Festal Letter of Athanasius (367 CE))
Source:
http://www.ntcanon.org/Athanasius.shtml
Note: Quoting the later councils and all that doesn’t matter so much because they all quote St. Athanasius for the 27 Book New Testament as even the Protestants do. I know of no earlier leader of the church to mention such number of books but may list more too or less too or not mention some too.
iii) An Example possible Christ Centered Universalism or Spirit World Evangelism in Hades (believing after seeing possibility as John 6:40 or 1 Peter 4:6 may point) type of Quote for some (if not all) by St. Athanasius not in links above, to quote:
“… And if a man has gone down even to Hades, and stands awestruck before the heroes who have descended thither, regarding them as gods, still he may see the fact of Christ’s resurrection and His victory over death, and reason from it that, of all these, He alone is very Lord and God. For the Lord touched all parts of creation, and freed and undeceived them all from every deceit. As St. Paul says, “Having put off from Himself the principalities and the powers, He triumphed on the cross,” so that no one could possibly be any longer deceived, but everywhere might find the very Word of God. For thus man, enclosed on every side by the works of creation and everywhere—in heaven, in Hades, in men and on the earth, beholding the unfolded Godhead of the Word, is no longer deceived concerning God, but worships Christ alone, and through Him rightly knows the Father. …” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, Ibid, Chapter 7/ Section 45)
Source:
https://salvationforall.org/7_History/4b-alexandria-athanasius.html
During St. Athanasius’ exiles, the heretics of Arianism took over the Church and St. Athanasius was with the Desert Father Order, he replied this Famous Stand of Faith Quote in Image which made his Faith for Christ Great:
St. Athanasius was Practically the Champion of Faith at the Council of Nicea whom all quote be it Protestants or Orthdox/Catholics
Peace to you
This is the same St. Athanasius whom all quote in the Council of Nicea and the 27 New Testament Books as Scripture apart from the Doctrine of Trinity who also Taught this as the interpretation of Matthew 13:8 just like the other church fathers which in Matthew 13:11 in this Topic Christ Taught that something secret might be hidden as a “secret” about it (and hence may NOT be Written in the New Testament even but Taught in many other Church Father’s Writings independently likewise), please consider the Verse and St. Athanasius’ writing regarding it next, to quote:
“… 8But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9He who has ears to hear, let him hear!” 10And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” 11He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the [a]mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. …” (Matthew 13:8 – 11, NKJV)
“… For there are two ways in life, as touching these matters. The one the more moderate and ordinary, I mean marriage; the other angelic and unsurpassed, namely virginity. Now if a man choose the way of the world, namely marriage, he is not indeed to blame; yet he will not receive such great gifts as the other. For he will receive, since he too brings forth fruit, namely thirtyfold. But if a man embrace the holy and unearthly way, even though, as compared with the former, it be rugged and hard to accomplish, yet it has the more wonderful gifts: for it grows the perfect fruit, namely an hundredfold…” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, Letter XLVIII.—Letter to Amun4583. Written before 354 AD via Philip Schaff, Pages 971 – 972)
Source: http://mb-soft.com/believe/txuc/athana49.htm
So in the Churches of the East, according to St. Athanasius the Great (who is often called the ‘father of orthodoxy’ from ancient theological standpoint itself – hence he may be communicating Mysteries of the Gospel kept by Sacred Tradition as even agreeing to other early Church Leader’s quote as discussed in a previous posts), we have the following in regards to ‘Spiritual Distinction’ based on ‘Marriage’, when obedience and other factors are held constant (based on Matthew 13:8):
“Married” = Thirty-Fold Fruit
“Unmarried” = Hundred-Fold Fruit
More details about St. Athanasius in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161276041297784
Peace to you
St. Athanasius the Great was called the ‘Black Dwarf’ by ‘his enemies’ because of ‘his dark skin’.
Example quotes:
“… “Those who maintain ‘There was a time when the Son was not’ rob God of his Word, like plunderers.” “Black Dwarf” was the tag his enemies gave him. And the short, dark-skinned Egyptian bishop had plenty of enemies. He was exiled five times by four Roman emperors, spending 17 of the 45 years he served as bishop of Alexandria in exile. Yet in the end, his theological enemies were “exiled” from the church’s teaching, and it is Athanasius’s writings that shaped the future of the church. …”
Source:
https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/theologians/athanasius.html
“… It feels like writing a piece about a figure to influential as Athanasius in anything less than a full book would fall severely short of doing justice to such an exquisite life. As a result, this will be more of an academic article (in length), but I hope you will begin to appreciate this great saint’s life as I have! He is designated as one of the four great “Doctors of the Eastern Church” along with St. Basil the Great, St. Gregory of Nazianzus and St. John Chrysostom, and with good reason. Christians today have been the benefactors of his theological brilliance and struggles against the false doctrine of Arianism in the face of a litany of 40 years of tumultuous trials, fighting to uphold the Nicene creed against persecution from ecclesial and political foes which earned him the accolade of “Athanasius contra mundam” – Athanasius against the world. …”
Source Post:
https://www.theotivity.com/post/athanasius-the-black-dwarf
More about him in link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161276041297784
In short, St. Athanasius is Chosen of God as both Protestants and Orthodox/Catholics all accept ‘his Doctrine on Trinity writing & explanations’ in all ‘Conservative Christianity’ as encompassed in the Council of Nicea (which decided also the Protestant Bible too till today as they follow his decision on this too whether knowingly or unknowingly).
Peace to you
Secret of a Pleasant Sleep
Please consider these “Bible Verses” about “sleep”:
1) A Hard Working man will have Good Sleep
“…The sleep of a laboring man is sweet, Whether he eats little or much; …” (Ecclesiastes 5:12, first part, NKJV)
2) Prosperity or Abundance of Money/Wealth for self comes with the “Curse” of “inadequate sleep”
“… But the abundance of the rich will not permit him to sleep. …” (Ecclesiastes 5:12, second part, NKJV)
“… “So is he who lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:21, NKJV)
Note: Wealth is permitted if it is “not for self or prosperity pursuits” but shared via the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle as even the Old Testament examples of Blessed Abraham and Blessed Job has shown.
3) God’s Beloveds do “not” do the “work to be rich lifestyle” where those who do it “toil in sorrow from early morning till late night” but God’s Beloved get “Good Sleep”
“… It is vain for you to rise up early, To sit up late, To eat the bread of sorrows; For so He gives His beloved sleep. …” (Psalm 127:2, NKJV)
“… Labour not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom. …” (Proverbs 23:4, KJV)
4) Living and Meditating Upon Bible Verses which Speak of the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of “… For I have [g]satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul. …” to fulfill God’s Command in this gives “Sweet Sleep” as Prophet Jeremiah did:
“… 25For I have [g]satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul.” 26After this I awoke and looked around, and my sleep was sweet to me. …” (Jeremiah 31:25 – 26, NKJV)
Peace to you
The “Religion of God”
“… 25But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. 26If anyone [e]among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless. 27PURE and UNDEFILED RELIGION BEFORE GOD and the Father is this: TO VISIT ORPHANS AND WIDOWS in THEIR TROUBLE, and to KEEP ONESELF UNSPOTTED FROM THE WORLD. …” (James 1:25 – 27, NKJV)
Peace to you
Meaning of Holiness of God in His Habitation is Described as
” … A FATHER OF THE FATHERLESS, a DEFENDER of WIDOWS, Is GOD IN HIS HOLY HABITATION. …” (Psalm 68:5, NKJV)
Peace to you
How does God Defend Widows and Orphans who are Mistreated?
The “mistreating party” is “cursed to die” and in principle the Verses below can apply to a ‘Death which continues in Hell’:
“… 22“You shall NOT AFFLICT ANY WIDOW or FATHERLESS CHILD. 23If you afflict them in any way, and they cry at all to Me, I will surely hear their cry; 24and My WRATH WILL BECOME HOT, and I will KILL YOU WITH THE SWORD; YOUR WIVES shall be WIDOWS, and YOUR CHILDREN FATHERLESS. …” (Exodus 22:22 – 24, NKJV)
Questions to Ponder:
1. If an orphanage is run in a way where the children are mistreated and abused be if physically, psychologically or emotionally, the Verse above may apply in principle too even if it’s done by the orphanage founders. If someone is not punished on earth whilst doing these abuses, as the Story of the Rich Man and Lazarus goes, in principle it could mean that they may be punished in “Hell” (punishment regions of Hades in the Spirit World) for it.
2. If the ‘Curse’ of mistreating orphans and widows is so great, then the “opposite” must be true as well right namely, to “Help” and “Orphan or Widow” sincerely, may merit great “Blessings spiritually or beyond” too, right?
3. These Verses also Speak that “… If the mistreated orphan prays or cries out …” God Says clearly that “He Will Hear” and so some Judgment sent against such abusers may be the people sent to correct or harm them likewise in return.
4. Could the “opposite” be true?: namely if similarly “… If the helped orphan prays or cries out …” on behalf of those who helped them, perhaps the helping person may find God’s Mercy likewise for his sins.
Example: Perhaps some are healed because an orphan prayed for them just like a prayer of a righteous man can avail much too:
“… Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. …” (James 5:16, NKJV)
Peace to you
How do we know if someone is mistreating others?
Example: How do we know if a person is mistreating an orphan?
Reply: If the person would not do the same to himself or to his children regarding a word or action, then it is clearly a mistreatment whose Judgment is Described in Post below (unless one repents):
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161265705687784
Logic: If “All law” is “Fulfilled” in “treating others rightly in the way we want to be treated” the “opposite” must also be true, right? Namely, “mistreating others” in a way which we won’t do to ourselves nor our children/family/same race/same religion etc. may thus just be equivalent to “BREAKING ALL LAW” (now, that’s equivalent to ‘lot of sin’ and thus ‘heavy judgment likewise’).
Related Verses:
“… Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 712, NKJV)
“… Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. …” (Romans 13:10, NKJV)
“… For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” …” (Galatians 5:14, NKJV)
Peace to you
A Charity Doctrine Act
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/651792783/posts/10161268973847784/
In Luke 10:25 – 37, the “Priest and Levite” (Luke 10:31, 32) had more accurate theological knowledge but failed to do the “Charity Doctrine” and failed to possibly be saved but the theologically imperfect “Good Samaritan” (Luke 10:33) Fulfilled this Will of God as CHRIST HIMSELF TAUGHT in Verses below:
“… 25And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, “Teacher, what shall I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?” … 30Then JESUS ANSWERED and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. 31Now by chance a certain PRIEST came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. 32Likewise a LEVITE, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side. 33But a certain SAMARITAN, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had COMPASSION. 34So he went to him and BANDAGED HIS WOUNDS, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and TOOK CARE OF HIM. 35On the next day, when he departed, he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘TAKE CARE OF HIM; and WHATEVER MORE YOU SPEND, when I come again, I WILL REPAY YOU.’ 36So which of these three do you think was NEIGHBOR to him who fell among the thieves? 37And he said, “He who SHOWED MERCY on him.” Then JESUS SAID to him, “GO AND DO LIKEWISE.”…” (Luke 10:25, 30 – 37, NKJV)
If any confusion, please remember this: “Christ Taught this in Verses above as it is Written”. Fighting this Charity Doctrine Truth is ‘fighting Christ’s Direct Words’. I wouldn’t advise that as wise.
Peace to you
Charity Doctrine Acts = “Good Fruit”
1) The same Greek Word “fruit” (*Greek: karpōn) is used in these two “Bible Verses”:
“… 19Every tree that does not bear good FRUITS [Greek: karpōn] is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Therefore by their FRUITS [Greek: karpōn] you will know them. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:19 – 20, NKJV)
“… 17Not that I seek the gift, but I seek the FRUIT [Greek: karpōn] that abounds to your account. …” (Philippians 4:17, NKJV)
2) Now, let’s look at the “Context” in “full”:
“… 15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16You will know them by their FRUITS [Greek: karpōn]. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17Even so, every good tree bears good FRUITS [Greek: karpōn], but a bad tree bears bad FRUIT [Greek: karpōn]. 18A good tree cannot bear bad FRUITS [Greek: karpōn], nor can a bad tree bear good FRUITS [Greek: karpōn]. 19Every tree that does not bear good FRUITS [Greek: karpōn] is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Therefore by their FRUITS [Greek: karpōn] you will know them. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:15 – 20, NKJV)
“… 15Now you Philippians know also that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, NO CHURCH SHARED with me concerning GIVING and receiving but you only. 16For even in Thessalonica you sent aid once and again for MY NECESSITIES. 17Not that I seek the gift, but I seek the FRUIT [Greek: karpōn] that abounds to your account. 18Indeed I [g]have all and abound. I am full, having received from Epaphroditus the things sent from you, a sweet-smelling aroma, an acceptable sacrifice, WELL PLEASING to GOD. 19And my God shall supply ALL YOUR NEED according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus. …” (Philippians 4:15 – 19, NKJV)
3) Comments:
- Not all Churches share with each other regarding this Charity Doctrine Lifestyle of Giving and Sharing “needs” among their own members even
“… 15Now you Philippians know also that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, NO CHURCH SHARED with me concerning GIVING and receiving but you only. …” (Philippians 4:15, NKJV)
- True Biblical Giving is only in the Context of “Giving & Receiving NEEDS ONLY” where giving pastors or other Christians “luxury/vanity” things do NOT count at all and is a ‘wasted giving’ with possibly no rewards & is a form of punishment as they get no ‘heavenly treasure nor value for it’. Such receivers who take “Luxury” from “Gospel Money” beyond “needs” may also risk being Judged (let God Decide):
“… 16For even in Thessalonica you sent aid once and again for MY NECESSITIES. … 19And my God shall supply ALL YOUR NEED according to His RICHES in glory by Christ Jesus. …” (Philippians 4:16, 19, NKJV)
Note: Please notice carefully that God “… according to His RICHES …” only SUPPLIES the NECCESSITIES & NEEDS ONLY and not luxury/vanity via ‘money collected in His Name’ as these Verses clearly Prove. (yes, please notice the phrases “… for MY NECESSITIES. …”, “… ALL YOUR NEED …” and “… according to His RICHES …” carefully in Verses above).
Personal luxury may be attained via ‘the money earned by working a secular job by oneself’ and NOT with God’s Money (i.e. referring to the ‘Money collected in the Name of God which is holy & consecrated which should only be used for actual worldly Goods providence in Gospel Work & Charity as well as living needs toward the needy/poor Christians too’).
*Proof Links for you to check:
- i) Philippians 4:17 – English Translations
https://biblehub.com/philippians/4-17.htm
- ii) Philippians 4:17 – Original Koine Greek with Interlinnear
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/philippians/4-17.htm
iii) Matthew 7:20 – English Translations
https://biblehub.com/matthew/7-20.htm
- iv) Matthew 7:20 – Original Koine Greek with Interlinnear
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/7-20.htm
Conclusion
Nothing makes a false prophet or fake character more clear than the attitude with ‘money’ regarding ‘how they earn it’ or ‘how they collect it in God’s Name’ and more importantly ‘what they do with it’ as CHRIST HIMSELF REVEALED this JUDGMENT as per Verses below (hence, let us ‘not’ be deceived by “no” Verse claims):
“… 13Now someone [j]in the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the family inheritance with me.” 14But He said to him, “[k]You there—who appointed Me a judge or arbitrator over the two of you?” 15But He said to them, “Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed; for NOT EVEN when ONE IS AFFLUENT does his life CONSIST OF HIS POSSESSIONS.” … 21 So is he who LAYS UP TREASURE FOR HIMSELF, and is NOT RICH TOWARD GOD. … 28Now if God so clothes the grass in the field, which is alive today and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, how much more will He clothe you? YOU OF LITTLE FAITH! 29And DO NOT SEEK what you are to eat and what you are to drink, and do not keep worrying. 30For [t]all these things are what the nations of the world [u]eagerly seek; and your Father knows that YOU NEED THESE THINGS.31“But SEEK HIS KINGDOM, and THESE THINGS will be ADDED TO YOU. 32“Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has chosen gladly to give you the kingdom. 33“SELL YOUR POSSESSIONS and GIVE TO CHARITY; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 35“Be dressed in readiness, and KEEP YOUR LAMPS LIT. …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:13 – 15, 21, 31 – 35, NASB)
and this (yes, the above and below are ‘Christ’s Direct Words’ & Teaching these makes “no” one a heretic but not teaching it could make one):
“… 9Here’s the lesson: USE YOUR WORLDLY RESOURCES to BENEFIT OTHERS AND MAKE FRIENDS. Then, when your possessions are gone, they will welcome you to an ETERNAL HOME. 10“If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. But if you are dishonest in little things, you won’t be honest with greater responsibilities. 11And IF YOU ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY ABOUT WORLDLY WEALTH, who will trust you with the TRUE RICHES OF HEAVEN? 12And if you are not faithful with other people’s things, why should you be trusted with things of your own? …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 16:9 – 12, NLT)
This is how Blessed John Wesley Prophesied regarding the potential ‘false prophets’ in the ‘protestant arena who will be ‘revealed’ based on this ‘Giving Doctrine’ quoting 2 Timothy 3:5 next, to quote:
“… having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! …” (2 Timothy 3:5, NKJV)
“… So, although the FORM OF RELIGION REMAINS, THE SPIRIT IS SWIFTLY VANISHING AWAY (2 Timothy 3:5). Is there no way to prevent this? this continual declension of pure in effect, to grow rich! What way then, I ask again, can we take that OUR MONEY may NOT SINK US to the NETHERMOST HELL? There is one way, and there is no other under heaven. If those who gain all they can, and save all they can, will likewise GIVE ALL THEY CAN, then the more they gain, the more they will GROW IN GRACE …” – Blessed John Wesley, Founder of Methodism
Source: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevin-deyoung/the-pastor-and-the-community-mark-dever/
‘… If we don’t learn from the best, we will be deceived by the worst …’ – Anonymous
The ‘Best’ or “Perfect” (please note this word carefully in Verse below) Christianity is Described by Christ as one that ‘Sells its Possessions & Gives to the Poor’ too (i.e. inclusive of the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle) beyond keeping ‘All law (Torah)’ even and that’s how the Prophecy of ‘the last will be first’ and ‘first last’ will be Fulfilled according to CHRIST’s OWN DIRECT WORDS below AS IT IS WRITTEN:
“… 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. What do I still lack?”21JESUS said to him, “If you want to be PERFECT, GIVE to the POOR, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS.23Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is HARD for a RICH MAN TO ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. 24And AGAIN I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. … 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” … 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:20 – 24, 27 – 30, NKJV)
Relative Measure Counts too (God Counts as Luke 21:1 – 4 Reveals) next. Indeed, we may think that we are giving much but a Giving with “no” effect as the Case of a Poor Widow which may “not” have fed anyone is still the Greatest as that’s how God is Fair to everyone by including “relative measure” (that is based on what one’s given first), Verses:
“… 1And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, 2and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites.[a] 3So He [JESUS} said, “TRULY I say to you that this POOR widow has put in MORE THAN ALL; 4for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings [b]for God, but she OUT OF HER POVERTY PUT IN ALL THE LIVELIHOOD THAT SHE HAD.” …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 21:1 – 4, NKJV)
Telling them about Christ Includes telling them what He COMMANDED such as the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle too.
Peace to you
Book of Tobit/Tobias through the eyes of St. Athanasius the Great, St. Clement of Rome, St. Polycarp of Smyrna and St. Augustine of Hippo
Firstly, to say that the Roman Catholics/Orthodox added or changed these Church Father’s writings is “NOT” valid because some things in their writings itself they don’t believe nor follow. Also, how then can we be sure as Protestants that the “Bible Verses” are not tampered with either for these same reasons?
Let’s begin.
1) St. Athanasius the Great
St. Athanasius didn’t consider Tobit/Tobias as equivalent to New Testament Scripture but approved its usage
“… These are the springs of salvation, in order that he who is thirsty may fully refresh himself with the words contained in them. In them alone is the doctrine of piety proclaimed. Let no one add anything to them or take anything away from them… But for the sake of greater accuracy I add, being constrained to write, that there are also other books besides these, which have not indeed been put in the canon, but have been appointed by the Fathers as reading-matter for those who have just come forward and which to be instructed in the doctrine of piety: the Wisdom of Solomon, the Wisdom of Sirach, Esther, Judith, TOBIAS [TOBIT], the so-called Teaching [Didache] of the Apostles, and the Shepherd. …” – Blessed St. Athanasius the Great, the Father of Orthodoxy, Patriarch of Alexandria and Champion of Trinity, Doctor of the Church and Confessor, Coptic Pope (c. 296 AD – c. 373 AD, The 39th Festal Letter of Athanasius (367 CE))
Source: http://www.ntcanon.org/Athanasius.shtml
Comment: St. Athanasius’ didn’t consider Tobit/Tobias lightly because he even wrote a commentary on it (which implies that he believes it to be true), to quote:
“… ATHANASIUS OF ALEXANDRIA. This book is called the book of Tobit because it contains his story. He was a man from the tribe of Naphtali, held in captivity in Nineveh, merciful and fearing God. For, when he was in captivity, he did not eat bread in common with the Gentiles, but he guarded himself. He was superintendent of the markets for king Shalmaneser, and he deposited ten talents of silver at Gabelus’s in Media. This Tobit devoted himself to burying the dead Jews. He was denounced to king Sennacherib for this, and fled to save himself. When he was back from his flight, after burying a few dead, he fell asleep outside the walls of his house, and while, as was his habit, he kept his eyes open in his sleep, he contracted a white film over them, and from that time he lost sight. There was in Ecbatana the daughter of Raguel, a relative of Tobit’s, called Sara. The devil Asmodeus would not let her enter into any marriage. For he had already killed seven young men who had taken her as a bride. When, strongly saddened by this, she gave herself over to prayers, God sent the archangel Raphael to help her. So, Tobit, having commanded his son Tobias not to take a wife from elsewhere than from his own tribe and family, gave him the note concerning the ten talents, and told him to go and ask for them. As the son knew neither the way nor the man to whom he had to go, he went out to seek a guide for his journey, and, by God’s providence, he stumbled upon Raphael, who stood outside in the appearance of a man, and he hired him for a price, because he said he knew the way. Therefore the angel accompanied him, in man’s disguise, saying his name was Azarias. When they reached the waters of the Tigris, Tobias wanted to go down into them to wash himself, and soon a large fish attacked him. The angel ordered him to catch the fish, cut it into pieces, take out the liver, heart, and gall, and keep them. When, later, the boy asked what he thought they would be useful for, he replied: “The liver and heart, when set on fire, put demons to flight; and the gall removes white films from the eyes.” Therefore, thanks to the advice and assistance of the angel, Tobias put the demon to flight with the smoke, and made the angel bind him in the upper part of Egypt; and so he took Sara, Raguel’s daughter, as a wife. While he stayed with his wife, he sent Azarias, as a man, to Media. When Tobias had gotten back the ten talents through him, he returned to his father with him and his wife. Once he was back, he smeared the fish’s gall on his father’s eyes; when that had been done, scales fell off from them, and soon the old man recovered sight. He was 58 years old when he became blind, and 66 when he recovered sight. Then at last the angel revealed that he was not a man, but an angel sent by God to bring help to them and Sara. When Tobit became old, he ordered his son to depart for Media, because Nineveh, according to what the prophet Jonah had said, was going to be destroyed. And, his strength abandoning him, he died at the age of 158. His son Tobias moved to Media, where, eventually, having buried his father-in-law and mother-in-law, and heard the news of Nineveh’s destruction, he died at the age of 107. [Athanasius of Alexandria, Synop. On Tobit]0 …”
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2) St. Clement of Rome
St. Clement of Rome himself quoted from this Book of Tobit/Tobias as ‘Scripture’ calling its verse as ‘part of the Old Testament’, to quote:
“… CLEMENT OF ROME. In the Old Testament it is written; ‘What you don’t want done to you, don’t do it to others (Tob. 4:16). [Epistola Prima Clementis AD Iacobum Fratrem Domini, PL 130.29A] …”– Blessed St. Clement of Rome, an Apostolic Father being a direct Disciple of the Blessed Apostle St. Peter (c.35 AD – c. 99 AD)
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Comment: How can the direct disciple of Blessed Apostle St. Peter make a mistake by calling this Deuterocanonical Tobit/Tobias book as part of the ‘Old Testament’ unless it is so, right?
3) St. Augustine of Hippo
St. Augustine is even Blessed John Calvin’s and many other Protestant’s favourite saint and even he affirmed that Tobit/Tobias is Scripture (as did many Church Councils throughout history too):
“… The Book of Tobit is listed as a canonical book by the Council of Rome (A.D. 382),[19] the Council of Hippo (A.D. 393),[20] the Council of Carthage (397)[21] and (A.D. 419),[22] the Council of Florence (1442)[23] and finally the Council of Trent (1546),[24] and is part of the canon of both the Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox Churches. Catholics refer to it as deuterocanonical.[25] Augustine[26] (c. A.D. 397) and Pope Innocent I[27] (A.D. 405) affirmed Tobit as part of the Old Testament Canon. Athanasius (A.D. 367) mentioned that certain other books, including the book of Tobit, while not being part of the Canon, “were appointed by the Fathers to be read”.[28] According to Rufinus of Aquileia (c. A.D. 400) the book of Tobit and other deuterocanonical books were not called Canonical but Ecclesiastical books. …” – Wikipedia (‘Book of Tobit’)
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Tobit
4) St. Polycarp of Smyrna
Some modern Bible Scholars will try to evade it by saying that maybe some part of Tobit/Tobias could be Inspired Scripture while other parts of it may not be. For argument’s sake let’s suppose this is true. The next quote below clearly proves that the CHARITY DOCTRINE PART of this Book of TOBIT/TOBIAS is considered as SCRIPTURE by St. Polycarp himself, to quote (in image too):
“… STAND FAST, therefore, in these things, and FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF THE LORD, being firm and UNCHANGEABLE IN THE FAITH, loving the brotherhood, and being attached to one another, joined together in the truth, exhibiting the meekness of the Lord in your intercourse with one another, and despising no one. When YOU CAN DO GOOD, DEFER IT NOT, because “ALMS DELIVERS FROM DEATH.” [Tobit 12:9]” Be all of you subject one to another? having your conduct blameless among the Gentiles,” that YE MAY BOTH RECEIVE PRAISE FOR YOUR GOOD WORKS, and the Lord may not be blasphemed through you. But WOE TO HIM by whom the name of the Lord is blasphemed! Teach, therefore, sobriety to all, and manifest it also in your own conduct. …” – Blessed St. Polycarp, Bishop of Smryna, an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of the Blessed St. John the Apostle who wrote the Book of Revelation (c. 69 AD – c. 155 AD, CHAPTER X.–EXHORTATION TO THE PRACTICE OF VIRTUE, THE EPISTLE OF POLYCARP TO THE PHILIPPIANS)
Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/polycarp-roberts.html
Polycarp is quoting the following Verse in Tobit which is attributed to Archangel Raphael himself:
“… 6 Then he said to them SECRETLY: Bless ye the God of heaven, give glory to him in the sight of all that live, because he hath shewn his mercy to you. 7 For it is good to hide the secret of a king: but honourable to reveal and confess the works of God. 8 PRAYER IS GOOD WITH FASTING AND ALMS MORE THAN to lay up treasures of gold: 9 For ALMS DELIVERETH from DEATH, and the same is that which PURGETH AWAY SINS, and maketh to FIND MERCY AND LIFE EVERLASTING. … 15 For I am the angel RAPHAEL, one of the seven who stand before the Lord. …” (Bible Scripture.Net Translation, Tobit 12:6 – 9, 15)
Source: https://biblescripture.net/Tobias.html
Note: Please notice that in Point 1 earlier, St. Athanasius’ commentary of Tobit/Tobias also confirms that “Archangel Raphael’s part” of the story is ‘true’ and believed by him.
Can the direct disciple of Blessed Apostle St. John himself quote a ‘wrong Scripture’ or a ‘fictional tale regarding Archangel Raphael’ as per the quote here or is it all ‘True’ indeed?
Nevertheless, even the best Protestant Scholars would admit that neither St. Athanasius the Great, St. Clement of Rome, St. Polycarp of Smyrna and St. Augustine of Hippo would be in Hell for Preaching from Tobit/Tobias as their writings here show and neither would we if we quote it with an open mind.
“… 8 PRAYER IS GOOD WITH FASTING AND ALMS MORE THAN to lay up treasures of gold: 9 For ALMS DELIVERETH from DEATH, and the same is that which PURGETH AWAY SINS, and maketh to FIND MERCY AND LIFE EVERLASTING. … 15 For I am the angel RAPHAEL, one of the seven who stand before the Lord. …” (Bible Scripture.Net Translation, Tobit 12:6 – 9, 15)
Last but not least, please notice carefully the Book of Tobit/Tobias’ CHARITY DOCTRINE QUOTE above and its link to ETERNAL LIFE just as Christ Taught as it’s discussed in links below:
- i) Charity Doctrine and HELL link
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161274172067784
- ii) Can All accurate Faith and All accurate Prophecy knowledge save someone without the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle?
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161273705377784
Peace to you
Apostolic Fathers Writings – A look at Epistle to Diognetus or Mathethes Quote on Charity Doctrine for Eternal Life
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161281615297784
1) History of this Mysterious Writing and its discovery
“… The Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus[1] (Greek: Πρὸς Διόγνητον Ἐπιστολή) is an example of Christian apologetics, writings defending Christianity against the charges of its critics. The Greek writer and recipient are not otherwise known. Estimates of dating based on the language and other textual evidence have ranged from AD 130[2] (which would make it one of the earliest examples of apologetic literature), to the late 2nd century, with the latter often preferred in modern scholarship.[3] … The text itself does not identify the author. The word “mathetes” is the Greek word for “student” or “disciple,” and it appears only once in the text, when the author calls himself a “student of the Apostles” (ἀποστόλων γενομένος μαθητής). Hence it is not a proper name at all, and its use in the title is strictly conventional. The writer, whoever he or she was, sounds to many like a Johannine Christian, inasmuch as he uses the word “Logos” as a substitute for “Christ” or “Jesus.”[4] Nothing is known either about its recipient, Diognetus. It is likely that he was the tutor of the same name to the emperor Marcus Aurelius.[5][6] It is entirely possible, without verification of the author, that we have a fictitious character, since the name “Diognetus,” means “God-born” in Greek.[7] … The epistle survived only in one manuscript. It was initially discovered in a 13th-century codex that included writings ascribed to Justin Martyr.[8] The 13th-century manuscript was mostly intact, exhibiting damage only in one place, several lines in the middle of the text. It was first published in 1592, and attributed to Justin Martyr because of the context of its discovery. Unfortunately the original was subsequently destroyed in a fire during the Franco-Prussian War in 1870,[8] but numerous transcriptions of the letter survive today. Oddly, there is no evidence that any Apostolic Father or Church Father knew of its existence, even though it has been esteemed by many modern readers as a gem of early Christian apologetics. It has been suggested that the Epistle should be identified with the Apology of Quadratus of Athens, mentioned by Eusebius in his Church History,[9] but this is disputed among scholars ( …”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistle_to_Diognetus
2) The Charity Doctrine Quote for Eternal Life
“… CHAPTER 10
10:1 This faith if thou also desirest, apprehend
first full knowledge of the Father.
10:2 _For God loved_ men for whose sake He made the
world, to whom He subjected all things that are in the
earth, to whom He gave reason and mind, whom alone He
permitted to look up to heaven, whom He created after
His own image, to whom _He sent His only begotten
Son,_ to whom He promised the kingdom which is in
heaven, and will give it to those that have loved Him.
10:3 And when thou hast attained to this full
knowledge, with what joy thinkest thou that thou wilt
be filled, or how wilt thou love Him that so loved
thee before? 10:4 And loving Him thou wilt be an imitator of His
goodness. And marvel not that a man can be an imitator
of God. He can, if God willeth it. 10:5 For happiness consisteth not in lordship over one’s neighbours, nor in desiring to have more than weaker men, nor in possessing wealth and using force to inferiors; neither can any one imitate God in these
matters; nay, these lie outside His greatness.
10:6 But whosoever taketh upon himself the burden of
his neighbour, whosoever desireth to benefit one that
is worse off in that in which he himself is superior,
whosoever by supplying to those that are in want
possessions which he received from God becomes a God
to those who receive them from him, he is an imitator
of God. 10:7 Then, though thou art placed on earth, thou
shalt behold that God liveth in heaven; then shalt
thou begin to declare the mysteries of God; then shalt
thou both love and admire those that are punished
because they will not deny God; then shalt thou
condemn the deceit and error of the world; when thou
shalt perceive the true life which is in heaven, when
thou shalt despise the apparent death which is here on
earth, when thou shalt fear the real death, which is
reserved for those that shall be condemned to the
eternal fire that shall punish those delivered over to
it unto the end. …”
Source:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/diognetus-lightfoot.html
3) The Charity Doctrine Lifestyle Quote part from the above:
“… 10:1 This faith if thou also desirest, apprehend
first full knowledge of the Father. …10:5 For happiness consisteth not in lordship over one’s neighbours, nor in desiring to have more than weaker men, nor in possessing wealth and using force to inferiors; neither can any one imitate God in these matters; nay, these lie outside His greatness. 10:6 But whosoever taketh upon himself the burden of his neighbour, whosoever desireth to benefit one that is worse off in that in which he himself is superior, whosoever by supplying to those that are in want possessions which he received from God becomes a God to those who receive them from him, he is an imitator of God. …”
In another translation:
“…. And if you love Him, you will be an imitator of His kindness. And do not wonder that a man may become an imitator of God. He can, if he is willing. For it is not by ruling over his neighbours, or by seeking to hold the supremacy over those that are weaker, or by being rich, and showing violence towards those that are inferior, that happiness is found; nor can any one by these things become an imitator of God. But these things do not at all constitute His majesty. On the contrary he who takes upon himself the burden of his neighbour; he who, in whatsoever respect he may be superior, is ready to benefit another who is deficient; he who, whatsoever things he has received from God, by distributing these to the needy, becomes a god to those who receive [his benefits]: he is an imitator of God. …”
Source: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/diognetus-roberts.html
3) Eternal Hell/Annihilation or Universalism part?
“… when thou shalt fear the real death, which is
reserved for those that shall be condemned to the
eternal fire that shall punish those delivered over to
it unto the end. …”
The phrase “… Eternal Fire … unto the End …” is seen as follows:
- i) Eternal Hell believers see it as a figure of speech to indicate no end for the wicked.
- ii) Annihilation believers see it as end of existence for the wicked.
iii) Universalism Hopeful believers see it as “Eternal fire” to have “an end” perhaps proving its meaning that punishment lasts to that “end of that Aeon” as per the literal meaning.
In another translation:
“…. when thou shalt fear what is truly death, which is reserved for those who shall be condemned to the eternal fire, which shall afflict those even to the end that are committed to it. …”
Source:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/diognetus-roberts.html
No one knows for sure but the Charity Doctrine Part is clearly Written, can you see it?
Note: The image is just for illustration from a well known Scholar/Book.
Peace to you
Mystery of Meat Doctrine beyond Milk Doctrine as the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle with Celibacy Gift through the Eyes of the St. Dionysius of Corinth
Bible Verses:
“… I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; …” (1 Corinthians 3:2, NKJV)
“… For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God; and you have come to need milk and not solid food. …” (Hebrews 5:12, NKJV)
1) The Term ‘Apostolic Father’
Firstly, scholars have assigned the term “Apostolic Father” generally to those early Christians who have been ‘Direct Disciples of one of the Apostles of Christ or their direct disciples at times’. Using the term ‘fathers of the Church’ may be allowed according to the ‘plural-fathers’ found in Verse below where Christ prohibited the ‘title type of using of it’:
“… For though you might have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet you do not have many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. …” (1 Corinthians 4:15, NKJV)
2) Who was St. Dionysius of Corinth?
Saint Dionysius was the bishop of Corinth in about the year 171 AD and was very close to the Doctrine Taught by Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul:
“…You also by this instruction have mingled together the Romans and Corinthians who are the planting of Peter and Paul. For they both came to our Corinth and planted us, and taught alike; and alike going to Italy and teaching there, were martyred at the same time. …”
Source: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05010a.htm
3) St. Dionysius of Corinth mentions that this “Almsgiving/Charity Doctrine Lifestyle” Custom/Rule was in the “Church” from the “Beginning”:
“… ST. DIONYSIUS, bishop of Corinth, flourished under the Emperor Marcus Aurelius, and was one of the most holy and eloquent pastors of the church in the second age. Not content assiduously to instruct his own flock with the word of life, he comforted and exhorted others at a distance. Eusebius mentions several of his instructive letters to other churches, and one of thanks to the church of Rome, under the pontificate of St. Soter, for the alms received from them according to custom. “From the beginning,” says he, “it is your custom to bestow your alms in all places, and to furnish subsistence to many churches.—You send relief to the needy, especially to those who work in the mines; in which you follow the example of your fathers. Your blessed bishop Soter is so far from degenerating from your ancestors in that respect, that he goes beyond them; not to mention the comfort and advice he, with the bowels of a tender father towards his children, affords all that come to him. On this day we celebrated together the Lord’s day, and read your letter, as we do that which was heretofore written to us by Clement.” …”
Source: https://www.bartleby.com/210/4/081.html
4) St. Dionysius of Corinth and the “Celibacy Doctrine” as “Meat Doctrine”
St. Dionysius of Corinth reveals in a letter that the “Celibacy Contest of Faith” is part of the “Meat” Doctrine (which the Bible Verses Quoted, in 1 Corinthians 3:2 & Hebrews 5:12 Mention that it is ‘not’ Written in New Testament Scripture as these ‘babes’ were not able to receive it but yet this ‘Unwritten Doctrine’ Exists) which partly may be explained in quote below:
“… (6) In a letter to Pinytus, bishop of Knossus, he [Blessed St. Dionysius of Corinth]* recommended that he should NOT LAY THE YOKE OF CELIBACY TOO HEAVILY on his brethren, but consider the weakness most of them have. Pinytus replied, after polite words, that he hoped DIONYSIUS would send STRONG MEAT next time so his people might NOT GROW UP on the MILK of BABES.[2] …”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysius_of_Corinth
*Emphasis Mine
5) St. Dionysius of Corinth and the “Almsgiving Doctrine” as the “Custom” of the “Church” from the “Beginning”
“… For this has been your CUSTOM FROM THE BEGINNING, to DO GOOD to all the brethren in many ways, and TO SEND ALMS to MANY CHURCHES in different cities, now RELIEVING THE POVERTY OF those who asked aid, now ASSISTING the brethren in the mines BY THE ALMS YOU SEND, ROMANS KEEPING UP THE TRADITIONAL CUSTOM of ROMANS which your **BLESSED BISHOP, SOTER, has NOT ONLY MAINTAINED, but has EVEN INCREASED, by affording to the brethren the abundance which he has supplied, and by comforting with blessed words the brethren who came to him, as a father his children. …” – Blessed St. Dionysius of Corinth (2nd century AD, Letter to the Romans, Fragment)
Source: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05010a.htm
**BLESSED BISHOP, SOTER –> Comment: Please notice carefully how St. Dionysius of Corinth also uses the title “Blessed” on “Bishop Soter” as this is common practice is discussed further in link “vi)” at the end of this Write Up.
Conclusion – Did Lord Jesus Christ Teach it?
Yes, according to the record of ‘Church Fathers’, for example:
1) St. Clement of Alexandria was Head at the Oldest Bible School in the World called the ‘School of Alexandria’ and he wrote this claiming “the LORD (JESUS CHRIST)” Taught this:
“… And AGAIN THE LORD SAYS: Let the one who has married not be cast out, and let the one who has not married not marry. He who has confessed that he will not marry according to his decision of eunuchhood, let him remain unmarried….” – Blessed St. Clement of Alexandria, Head of the Cathecathical School At Alexandria (c. 150 AD – c. 215 AD, Miscellanies 3.15)
Source for ( “Agrapha ” ) Quote above:
https://web.archive.org/…/www…/agrapha.html
2) The Direct Disciple of Apostle St. John (who wrote the Book of Revelation & the Gospel of John) wrote this pointing to such a Context (and also the odds of such direct disciples making up imaginary doctrines is very low):
“… If any one can continue in a STATE of PURITY, to the honour of Him who is Lord of the flesh, let him so REMAIN WITHOUT BOASTING. If he begins to BOAST, he is UNDONE; and if he reckon himself GREATER than the BISHOP, he is RUINED. But it becomes both men and women who marry, to form their union with the approval of the bishop, that their marriage may be according to God, and not after their own lust. Let all things be done to the honour of God….” – Blessed St. Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch, an Apostolic Father of the Church being a Direct Disciple of the Blessed St. John the Apostle (c. 35 AD – c. 108 AD)
Source (Chapter 5): https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0110.htm
Warning: If anyone boasts just because he/she is a virgin in a “state of purity” for Christ, such a person can lose this reward entirely being “undone”. Also, if he/she is thinks that they are greater than a Bishop because of this, likewise such a one may be “ruined”. So, please be “Wise” as the Great First Christianity Saint above.
3) Source for Quotes above and related discussion may be found in links below:
- i) Continence Race of Faith Bible Verses and First Christianity Quotes
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161223428882784
- ii) Clarification regarding the Renunciation of Marriage Post
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161225253892784
iii) Prayer and Marriage Renunciation Lifestyle Link
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161221592112784
- iv) Sister Wife Mystery – Renunciation of Marriage for the Gospel
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161074168602784
- v) Celibacy Doctrine Mystery by St. Athanasius the Great
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161276169527784
- vi) Regarding using the “Blessed” as a Title to Honour such ‘Men of God’ please consider the posts below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160408308112784
or
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160408205272784
or
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10160354237562784
or
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10159597438837784
Questions to Ponder:
- For centuries, this Doctrine was Taught in the Churches by all the Authoritative Christian Leaders of the Church even those who didn’t have any Prayers to Virgin Mary in their writings such as “St. Dionysius of Corinth” , “St. Clement of Alexandria” and “St. Ignatius of Antioch”, “St. Augustine of Hippo”, “St. Ephiphanius of Salamis and many others” as quoted in links above with Bible Verses hinting at it too, so are they all wrong?
- Also, if the Catholics/Orthodox changed these writings, how can you be sure the New Testament Scripture isn’t changed too?
iii. In fact, other aspects such as Millenearism/Chiliasm Doctrine itself is unchanged by them but preserved in say the Writings of St. Justin Martyr and St. Irenaeous though they don’t believe it.
May God Lead us to be Wise accordingly.
Peace to you
Who is good in God’s Sight?
Please notice “carefully” that it is “not” Written in any Verse that “Wealth (Riches)” and “Health” is Promised to everyone who is good in God’s Sight but this is Promised, “… Wisdom, Knowledge and Joy. …”.
In other words, it does “not” mean that there are no rich or healthy good Christians but that there is no such thing that this “health & wealth” is Promised to all who are good in His Sight as the ‘false’ claim of the ‘Prosperity Gospel’ attests.
New Testament Example: Blessed St. Timothy who is called a “true son of faith” in Scripture (1 Timothy 1:2) was “frequently ill” but even Blessed Apostle St. Paul did NOT pray for him to be healed of his sicknesses but even told him to drink some “wine” for health reasons (in 1 Timothy 5:23).
The Evidence of something which all who are good in God’s Sight will have is “… Wisdom, Knowledge and Joy …”, to quote (Verse in image too):
“… 26For GOD has GIVEN to the MAN who is GOOD IN HIS SIGHT, WISDOM, and KNOWLEDGE, and JOY: but he has given to the sinner trouble, to add and to heap up, that he may give to him that is good before God; for this is also vanity and waywardness of spirit. …” (Ecclesiastes 2:26, LXX, Brenton Septuagint Translation)
Source:
https://biblehub.com/sep/ecclesiastes/2.htm
Or in another translation:
“… For GOD gives WISDOM and KNOWLEDGE and JOY to a MAN who is GOOD IN HIS SIGHT; but to the sinner He gives the work of gathering and collecting, that he may give to him who is good before God. This also is vanity and grasping for the wind. …” (Ecclesiastes 2:26, NKJV, based on the Masoretic Text)
Peace to you
No Justification of the Wicked = Wicked must be Judged Theology
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161292263987784
“… One who justifies the wicked and one who condemns the righteous, Both of them alike are an abomination to the LORD. …” (Proverbs 17:15, NKJV)
Here are some points to ponder (examples of wickedness with Verses for each claim made):
1) If someone says that sexual sins are not serious, then may their wives cheat on them and their daughters be used by such type of men which they try to defend in the future. Some of these perverts can even pose with children whilst living this double sexual perversion life in secret but those who know it will not be deceived.
“… They will eat and still be hungry. They will play the prostitute and gain nothing from it, for they have deserted the LORD …” (Hosea 4:10, NLT)
2) The wicked will treat those whom he thinks are below him economically harshly but pretend to be kind to those above him in any way as long as there’s benefit to earn.
“… 21Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven. 23Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. 24And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. 25But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. 26The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ 27Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. 28“But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ 29So his fellow servant fell down [e]at his feet and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you [f]all.’ 30And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. 31So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. 32Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. 33Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ 34And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. 35“So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother [g]his trespasses.” …” (Matthew 18:21 – 35, NKJV)
3) The wicked will never use their money for the common good but will pretend so that they can enjoy even by taking the food from the poor whilst secretly having money actually.
“… 12These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. 13They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever. …” (Jude 1:12 – 13, NIV)
Note: Please notice carefully how Apostle Jude clearly includes those ‘… who feed themselves at such love feasts …’ without including their share (if they’re able, implied) to be those who have been reserved for ‘darkness forever’ because it’s sign of inner selfishness which is also clear in Verse below where ‘those who have’ should “not” take nor feast with Church Money till the one who doesn’t have is “hungry”, Verses:
“… 21For some of you hurry to eat your own meal without sharing with others. As a result, some go hungry while others get drunk. 22What? Don’t you have your own homes for eating and drinking? Or do you really want to disgrace God’s church and shame the poor? What am I supposed to say? Do you want me to praise you? Well, I certainly will not praise you for this! …” (1 Corinthians 11:21 – 22, NLT)
Comment: Though the Context in Verses above is primarily the Holy Communion or Eucharist, but it also includes in principle regarding not taking food or using Church Money allocated to that unless we are poor or must be shared in a way the poor gets it and not those who have grab it all and run away to eat it alone!
4) The wicked will buy gifts to manipulate someone into thinking that they’re kind but it’s actually to maintain favours and to get some benefits (business or otherwise) as they will never do it to someone else who is really poor among them & neither will they even repair say the things which they damaged though they’re able to afford it with that same money.
“… Your rulers are rebels, partners with thieves; they all love bribes and chase after gifts. They do not defend the cause of the fatherless; the widow’s case does not come before them. …” (Isaiah 1:23, NKJV)
Conclusion
If someone says that these things are not a big deal, please ask them to pray likewise that their spouse or children grow up to be in exactly like how it’s described in each situation above and let’s see how they ‘accept such damage or wickedness’ as ‘normal’. In fact, to speed things up, please ask such people to ‘invite such a wicked behaviour person’ into ‘their home’ and ‘bear all these expenses’ and let’s see how glad they are by facing it. If they can’t, then they’re just as hypocritical as well.
Why is this not a small thing? Because just like “loving your neighbor as yourself” Fulfills “All Law” (according to Galatians 5:14), breaking this by not loving others as oneself but using and treating them as described above likewise may merit the “opposite” of “breaking all law”.
Solution:
“… Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the LORD, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon. …” (Isaiah 55:7, NKJV)
P/S: Here’s a Secret: Almost all the Wicked will be punished with a lifetime servitude toward a woman whom they will crave but she will use (and they will eventually know but deny it and live denying it in a “trap worse than death” that the Bible Describes below):
A Curse Worse than Death – A Lifetime of Suffering in the Heart
Bible Verses:
“… 25I applied my heart to know,
To search and seek out wisdom and the reason of things,
To know the wickedness of folly,
Even of foolishness and madness.
26And I find more bitter than death
The woman whose heart is snares and nets,
Whose hands are fetters.
[k]He who pleases God shall escape from her,
But the sinner shall be trapped by her. …” (Ecclesiastes 7:25 – 26, NKJV)
Source:
https://biblehub.com/nkjv/ecclesiastes/7.htm
The Septuagint reads the same:
“… 25(7:26) I and my heart went round about to know, and to examine, and to seek wisdom, and the account of things, and to know the folly and trouble and madness of the ungodly man. 26(7:27) And I find her to be, and I will pronounce to be more bitter than death the woman which is a snare, and her heart nets, who has a band in her hands: he that is good in the sight of God shall be delivered from her; but the sinner shall be caught by her. …” (Ecclesiastes 7:25 – 26, Brenton Septuagint Translation, LXX)
Source:
https://biblehub.com/sep/ecclesiastes/7.htm
Conclusion
The Verses above describe one of the worst curses upon certain men (who are sinners) because they are “not” Good in God’s Sight or don’t please Him in their lives who in the end get their heart trapped toward a woman (so called fall in love with her) which is ‘not’ a good love but a lifetime of a fake love which drains them out (as they cannot get out of it) whose suffering in their hearts for a lifetime is described as worse than death.
Why? The same way they chose “not” to please God as the Verse writes, they ‘reap this same lifetime suffering’ as the punishment (implied). Such men become fettered or chained to such women where they become slaves to fulfill all her desires & get used nicely for things which are just fake because it’s to fulfill her desire (e.g. materialistically, financially) she uses them and these have “no” eternal value as it’s “not” fulfilling God’s Will.
This is how the Devil distracts from using one’s time and money to do God’s Will (e.g. to Preach the Gospel & it’s Wisdom or do the Charity Doctrine of Scripture) but instead these ensnared ones cannot because all their time and money will be used to fulfill such desires of a woman who enslave their heart as these Verses describe such a Curse. Such wicked men who don’t have a good heart to please God are automatically cursed to have a heart which will be ensnared in a lifetime toward such women whose punishment is worse in bitterness than death as the Verse Describes (as actually they are not loved back at all, just used all their lives).
Example of Deception: The Devil will tell you: ‘… Don’t listen to the preacher. He is jealous that you are not getting such a beautiful woman. …’. Actually that woman especially one that obviously doesn’t love God and makes you sin before marriage and requires you to do so many financial sacrifices to prove your love is a clear sign that it’s such a “curse woman” which is Described in these Verses. A “Godly Woman” is as per Proverbs 31 which is entirely different in “attitude”. So, the friend that advises you is not the enemy and the woman that is using you is.
Knowing the Word of God is Wisdom. Please don’t let the lies of the Devil flatter you to be caught up in this trap that’s about the worse lifetime curse. How to escape it? There’s only one way as the Verse Reads, “… He who pleases God shall escape from her, But the sinner shall be trapped by her. …” .
So let us examine ourselves daily like this: What am I doing today that is fulfilling God’s “Written” Will in Holy Scripture? To be more specific let us ask ourselves “Which Bible Verse?” Wise is the man who seeks to please God according to “Written” Bible Verses and not ‘one’s own thoughts from one’s heart assuming that’s God’s Will because our hearts are wicked seeking to fulfill its own desire only’. May God keep us safe from these Deceptions and “Do” any of “His Written Will” instead.
Peace to you
Trinity Doctrine in Isaiah 48:16 by God Directly
( Thanks to Mr. Ron. R. D. for pointing this Verse out )
Who is Speaking the Verse in Image? = “… Christ (in His Eternal Pre-Existence) …” which can be seen in “Full” below:
“… 16“Come near to Me, hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning;
From the time that it was, I was there.
And now the Lord God and His Spirit
[c]Have sent Me.”
17Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,
The Holy One of Israel:
“I am the Lord your God,
Who teaches you to profit,
Who leads you by the way you should go. …” (Isaiah 48:16 – 17, NKJV)
Source: https://biblehub.com/isaiah/48-16.htm
Comment:
- i) God the Father = “… And now the Lord God …” (Isaiah 48:16)
- ii) God the Holy Spirit = “… and His Spirit …” (Isaiah 48:16)
iii) God the Son (Lord Jesus Christ) = “… Have sent Me.” …” (Isaiah 48:16)
- iv) The ‘First Person’ identifying Himself as “Me” in Isaiah 48 is ‘not an angel but God and so must be God the Son’ in Retrospect of the New Testament Verses which is Identified throughout this Chapter too for example (in Isaiah 48:12), this ‘First Person Speaking’ Identifies Himself as the “First and Last” just like Christ Identifies Himself with Equivalent Terms, to quote:
“… 12“Listen to Me, O Jacob,
And Israel, My called:
I am He, I am the First,
I am also the Last. …” (Isaiah 48:12, NKJV)
Source: https://biblehub.com/isaiah/48-12.htm
“… 12Hear me, O Jacob, and Israel whom I call; I am the first, and I endure for ever. …” (Isaiah 48:12, LXX, Brenton Septuagint Translation)
Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/isaiah/48.htm
Please Compare with (Please notice carefully the words “FIRST” and “LAST” in each of the Verses quoted above and below):
“… 12Then I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And having turned I saw seven golden lampstands, 13and in the midst of the seven lampstands One like the Son of Man, clothed with a garment down to the feet and girded about the chest with a golden band. … 17And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying [i]to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last. 18I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of [j]Hades and of Death. …” (Revelation 1:12 – 13, 17 – 18, NKJV)
Source: https://biblehub.com/nkjv/revelation/1.htm
“… 8“And to the [d]angel of the church in Smyrna write, ‘These things says the First and the Last, who was dead, and came to life: 9“I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a [e]synagogue of Satan. …” (Revelation 2: 8 – 10, NKJV)
Source: https://biblehub.com/nkjv/revelation/2.htm
and
“… 12“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the [f]Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” … 16“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.” …” (Revelation 22:14, 16, NKJV)
Source: https://biblehub.com/nkjv/revelation/22.htm
The “Septuagint” Reads Similarly as follows:
“…16Draw nigh to me, and hear ye these words; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning: when it took place, there was I, and now the Lord, even the Lord, and his Spirit, hath sent me. 17Thus saith the Lord that delivered thee, the Holy One of Israel; I am thy God, I have shewn thee how thou shouldest find the way wherein thou shouldest walk. …” (Isaiah 48:16 – 17, LXX, Brenton Septuagint Translation)
Source: https://biblehub.com/sep/isaiah/48.htm
Peace to you
Saved by Fire – Discussing a Possibility not Doctrine as I’m not sure
Source Post:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161290545707784
Bible Verses:
“… 11For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is. 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. …” (1 Corinthians 3:11 – 15, NKJV)
1) Work of “Gold, Silver and precious stones” = “reward”
” … 2Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones … 14If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward …” (1 Corinthians 3:14, NKJV)
Possibility:
“… But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold. …” (Matthew 13:8, KJV)
Please compare with works of “… gold, silver, precious stones, …” (in 1 Corinthians 3:12) with these Verses in Matthew 13:8 to see the “possibility” that perhaps:
- i) Gold = Hundredfold Reward
- ii) Silver = Sixtyfold Reward
iii) Precious Stones = Thirtyfold Reward
Example Other Verses:
“Gold” Level (please note the word “Hundredfold” in Verse below) includes the ‘Charity Doctrine Lifestyle part of ‘… SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, …’ to the Renunciation of ‘… HOUSES , LANDS …’ or even Marriage for Christ’s Sake as the phrase “… Left Wife …” meant that in Christ’s Own Explanation in Verses below (I repeat, please note the word “Hundredfold” in Verse Matthew 19:29 below) :
“… 21Jesus said to him, “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, FOLLOW ME.” … 27Then Peter answered and said to Him, “See, we have LEFT ALL and FOLLOWED YOU. Therefore what shall we have?” 28So Jesus said to them, “Assuredly I say to you, that in the REGENERATION, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And EVERYONE who has LEFT HOUSES or brothers or sisters or father or mother or WIFE or children or LANDS, for MY NAME’S SAKE, shall RECEIVE a HUNDREDFOLD, and INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE. 30But MANY who are FIRST will be LAST, and the LAST FIRST. …” (Matthew 19:21, 27 – 30, NKJV)
More regarding this “Hundredfold, Sixtyfold and Thirtyfold” possibility is discussed in Example link below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161286099952784
2) Work of “wood, hay, straw,” = “he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. ”
“… 12Now if anyone builds on this foundation with … wood, hay, straw, 13each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it … 15If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. …” (1 Corinthians 3:12, 13, 15, NKJV)
Possibility: This may refer to a ‘fallen Christian’ who is ‘not thirty, sixty or hundredfold’ for these are “Good Ground” and hence may refer to the ‘many stripes beating’ and ‘portion with unbelievers’ which is Described in Verses below:
“… 45But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, 46the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and WILL CUT HIM [fallen Christian] IN TWO AND APPOINT HIM HIS PORTION WITH THE UNBELIEVERS [non-Christians]. 47And THAT SERVANT WHO KNEW HIS MASTER’S WILL [fallen Christian], and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be BEATEN WITH MANY STRIPES. 48But HE WHO DID NOT KNOW [non-Christians?], yet COMMITTED THINGS DESERVING OF STRIPES, shall be BEATEN WITH FEW. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more …” – The KING, Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ (Luke 12:45 – 48, NKJV)
Note: Since the ‘fallen Christian’ because Christ Contrasts him to be different from the ‘unbelievers’ in this passage calling him ‘servant’ too) = ‘many stripes beating’ as opposed to ‘unbelievers who didn’t know (compared) could be beaten with few stripes’, so if this fallen Christian “may be saved by fire” (1 Corinthians 3:12, 13, 15) earlier, perhaps the “few stripes unbelievers” may be saved likewise too? If not ‘all unbelievers may be eligible for this few stripes possibility’ but for some of them maybe especially those of them who Practiced the Charity Doctrine Lifestyle especially toward Christians as Matthew 25:31 – 46 may point as discussed in earlier post in links below:
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161228279712784
or
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.ramachandran/posts/10161281615297784
As I said, I’m not 100% sure as you can see it’s “possible” but let God Decide One Day and we Accept His Decision either way.
Peace to you