Jonathan Academic and Work CV
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[Text] St. Irenaeous of Lyons links the “Washing Feet” incident of Lord Jesus Christ to include “possible” NON Elect Salvation for “… but for all men altogether, … ” toward those who practiced both HOLINESS and CHARITY DOCTRINE only even as He DESCENDED into SHEOL/HADES (“on whose account He also descended into the lower parts of the earth, Ephesians 4:9”) where I did not quote the washing feet part in [Page 57 onward of the #ChiliasmBook] but here I show that it’s part of this context for his writing:
“… 1 Now in the last days, when the fulness of the time of liberty had arrived, the Word Himself did by Himself “wash away the filth of the daughters of Zion,” when He washed the disciples’ feet with His own hands. For this is the end of the human race inheriting God; that as in the beginning, by means of our first [parents], we were all brought into bondage, by being made subject to death; so at last, by means of the New Man, all who from the beginning [were His] disciples, having been cleansed and washed from things pertaining to death, should come to the life of God. For He who washed the feet of the disciples sanctified the entire body, and rendered it clean. … on whose account He also descended into the lower parts of the earth, Ephesians 4:9 to behold with His eyes the state of those who were resting from their labours, in reference to whom He did also declare to the disciples: Many prophets and righteous men have desired to see and hear what you see and hear. Matthew 13:17 2. For it was not merely for those who believed on Him in the time of Tiberius Cæsar that Christ came, nor did the Father exercise His providence for the men only who are now alive, but for all men altogether, who from the beginning, according to their capacity, in their generation have both feared and loved God, and practised justice and piety towards their neighbours, and have earnestly desired to see Christ, and to hear His voice. Wherefore He shall, at His second coming, first rouse from their sleep all persons of this description, and shall raise them up, as well as the rest who shall be judged, and give them a place in His kingdom. …” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church, First Doctor of the Church in order of time, Father of Catholic Theology, (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD,, Against Heresies (Book IV, Chapter 22))
Roman Catholic Source:
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103422.htm
Peace to you
Ireneous quote explanation. [Text] The question is whether is there elect salvation only (those saved on earth now) or also possible non-Elect Salvation (those saved only after seeing & believing Christ in the Spirit World)? I use the famous “All Israel is not Israel” Verse down the famous “Romans Road chapters” (Romans 9 to 11) to see if at least “some” (if not all) can be saved as “non-Elect”? For this I present Calvinism which says no such thing versus St. Ireneaous of Lyons using this same Verse of “All Israel saved” together with “Christ Saviour of the World verse” (extended to include Gentiles too) in the Context of “Lost Sheep which perished on earth” (unsaved on earth) which according to St. Ireneaous of Lyons Christ Seeks out to Save in the “Spirit World” (things in earth beneath) after they “fulfill their time of punishment for disobedience earlier on earth for not believing there first”. I am “not” 100% sure if St. Ireneaous means this in image but it’s “possible” so I consider it as a “possibility” and not doctrine in cases I am not sure. If this interpretation is true then these non-elect salvation ones could be the “nations who are saved on earth with terrestrial (lower) body salvation” as mentioned in Revelation 21:24 & 1 Corinthians 15:40 after Judgment Day Context who are contrasted against the “Bride” (Church) in this same Chapter (Revelation 21:9) with whom only Christ “Marries” (allegorically) meaning He Shares His Flesh/Divinity in some way (Ephesians 5:31 – 32) making only the Christians or “Bride” as having “Celestial” (Heavenly Bodies) to dwell in the new heavens after judgment day (Revelation 21:1) the lowest heaven of the “Final New Jerusalem City” which connects to that final new earth (Revelation 21:2) but NOT everyone enters even the lowest heaven from nations who are saved which is filtered with the gate (Revelation 22:14) and Christians specifically “dwell in heaven” as mentioned “go out no more from this lowest heaven meaning it’s their permanent dwelling” (Revelation 3:12) strengthening the possibility that “those on final new earth” could be “non-elect salvation” (much lower). I detail these out in #ChiliasmBook as a possibility (not doctrine as I am not sure). The ancient Jewish Book of 1Enoch (possibly quoted by Blessed Apostle St. Jude as Scripture) seems to support this exegesis as detailed in Pages 894 onward or Page 14 in that same #ChiliasmBook . Peace to you
Important Note: Though sometimes I write in a way that may give the feel that “possibility” might just be true and refute the ideas against it, it does NOT necessarily mean I am “right” simply because I am well aware that I can be misinterpreting (but in light of these First Christianity quotes, I also could be right) and that’s why I present all this honestly as a “possibility” only either way and accept whichever God Reveals as Right One Day. Here are links for free pdf download for all these books:
- i) #DialoguesBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZDghJN2eq7MyygtUpbNVFW—LGorSMv/view?usp=share_link
- ii) #BibleandChurchFathersQuoteBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1__t7iB0HZsI4P6dqXAxxBjk_WnC1J2wb/view?usp=share_link
iii) #SafeRouteScripturallyBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HUXXa2kgpImEpVWFg4AN0SBc0x4ulSLn/view?usp=share_link
- iv) #EternalHellAnnihilationUniversalismBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N5bK-LoBAg4VQN8eLtVWsqkQyoGE0Ad_/view?usp=sharing
- v) #MysteryoftheKingdomofHeavenBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-zX7XgzguBYHkXWucUZ6xfMInbwtj0Z3/view?usp=share_link
- vi) #Edu4LifeBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XZDENeSl6mNPi6hyfGqvzBJCBlzAoqM9/view?usp=share_link
vii) #ChiliasmBook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IzLcp1E-YoDtpAGY9qfnLeCL7ojc6-nj/view?usp=sharing
viii) #DoctrineBook or #BookofDoctrine
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12QmUFyND5rTAZo4jT5M_qRAukf-hnRBD/view?usp=sharing
Thank you
Conclusion of Doctrine- Parable of Sower to Fulfill the Great Commission’s Obey all that I commanded you part (Matthew 28:20) – Spirit of Truth (Holy Spirit) vs spirit of error is Revealed in 1 John 3:24 as NEVER making a mistake in context of Obeying His Commands [Note: I cannot quote every verse here in full due to space so please see pages quoted] 1) Parable of Sower’s “Seed” is “Word of God” (Luke 8:11) and NOT “number of converts” which is “good ground” (Luke 8:15) meaning referring to “His Commands” which produces either “thirtyfold, sixtyfold and hundredfold” levels (Luke 8:8). Martin Luther (First Protestant, Lutheran), John Wesley (Methodist), John Calvin (Reformed) agreed on all these DOCTRINE parts as shown with PROOF from their OWN SOURCES with GREAT CHURCH FATHERS too. www.AnonymousChristian.org
Charity Doctrine is His Commandment to have His Love (1 John 3:23) which few Verses earlier defines it as CHARITY DOCTRINE with either EARTHLY or SPIRITUAL THINGS (this WORLD’s GOODS) for FREE for NEEDS CONTEXT only (not prosperity) in 1 John 3:16 – 18. Then we can say “we BELIEVE in HIM” by GOD’s GRACE.
Last Sermon
If I had a Last Sermon this would be it. It matches what is taught by all Protestant Founders and Church Fathers and so we are saved by following likewise and strive to do His Will.
Is there Jew vs Gentile and Male vs Female on earth now? Yes and it’s only removed in AFTER the RESURRECTION and MILENNIAL REIGN CONTEXT onward.
Because two Christians will claim to have the Holy Spirit and yet not follow Christ the same way. I avoid this risk: “… 38But since you say, ‘The [l]oracle of the Lord!’ therefore thus says the Lord: ‘Because you say this word, “The oracle of the Lord!” and I have sent to you, saying, “Do not say, ‘The oracle of the Lord!’ ” 39therefore behold, I, even I, WILL UTTERLY FORGET YOU and FORSAKE YOU, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and will cast you out of My presence. 40And I WILL BRING AN EVERLASTING REPROACH UPON YOU, AND A PERPETUAL SHAME, WHICH SHALL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.’ ” …” (Jeremiah 23:38 – 40, NKJV) If you don’t believe in the Bible or Church Fathers or Protestant Founders, I have nothing to say. I am not self absorbed to think voices in my head is truth instead when it speaks against Bible Verses confirmed by the writings of the Church Fathers and Protestant Founders with Church History confirming its practice that way.
In Image, Jacob (Israel) is often misunderstood to have partaken of some type of partiality and hence quoted by some to justify their nepotism to racism which is utterly wrong. Here I reveal with Bible and First Christianity quote that God Chose Jacob knowing that he will repent and be willing to be cheated even in work context to do the right thing regardless for 14 to 20 years!
i) #chiliasmbook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IzLcp1E-YoDtpAGY9qfnLeCL7ojc6-nj/view?usp=sharing
ii) #DoctrineBook or #bookofdoctrine
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12QmUFyND5rTAZo4jT5M_qRAukf-hnRBD/view?usp=sharing
Jonathan Academic and Work CV (Latest Update: 10 August 2023) link in free pdf:
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Highlight: Please view the theological explanations from the last chapter listed on the Page on contents in image to understand “Why” I link my Christian Beliefs to my Work methods and how it links to both the Protestant Founders and Earliest Church Fathers in some way. Thank you
The Original Protestants do “not” believe in “Women Pastors” till today. So there is “no” condemnation in following this doctrinal point.
Do Christians need to observe Saturday /Sunday as Sabbath?
The True Church has “nothing” to do with “number of conversions”; please remember that even Praying to Virgin Mary Roman Catholics have “more converts” than your local ‘small modern denomination in comparison’ and has brought the Gospel into ‘new lands and hard territories for 2000 years’ meaning either God is Merciful to save more but Reward & Elect vs Non-Elect Salvation is possible or there are really very few indeed saved and also Christians will “convert” into “any type of Christianity which meets their preconceived ideas even if it’s against New Testament Verses affecting gradation (Matthew 5:17- 20’s least vs great in heaven due to breaking His Commands)”. These are the risks and possibilities in a nutshell so may God Help us to be Wise Biblically. Peace to you
[Text] Explanation is [From Page 2145 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook]. What did St. Justin mean when he says “… who say … their souls, when they die, are taken to heaven; do not imagine that they are Christians,? …” Doesn’t that plainly contradict Luke 16:19 – 31? Not really. What St. Justin Martyr means as heaven is far more complex than ‘what we assume’ to be. Both St. Papias of Hierapolis and St. Irenaeous of Lyons expounded that “heaven” was separated into three distinct layers. He referred to the first as just “heaven”, the second as “paradise”, and the third as “the city”. Papias taught that “there is this distinction between the habitation of those who produce a hundredfold, and that of those who produce sixty-fold, and that of those who produce thirty-fold”.
This means that when we die, as Christians, with ‘our soul we will enter Paradise’ immediately (as per Luke 16:19 – 31) and await the ‘redemption of the body’ (Romans 8:23) to enter ‘heaven’ later when He Returns during the First Resurrection (Revelation 20:4 – 6). Yes, a soul with spirit can live in the afterlife abodes or regions such as ‘Abraham’s Bosom’ or Paradise (Luke 16:19 – 31, Revelation 6:10) or be gathered in the New Jerusalem City for the Wedding (Galatians 4:26, Revelation 21:2, Revelation 19:7 – 9) but to ‘live on earth again or to enter higher into the heavens’, we need to partake of the Resurrection First (Revelation 20:4 – 6, Hebrews 11:39 – 40, Hebrews 12:21 – 24). Please also remember that this same St. Justin Martyr has other possible non-Elect Salvation quotes too as I have shown say [From Pages 72 or 221 or 252 onward of the #ChiliasmBook] which is too much to quote here.
St. Justin Martyr is most likely right because:
1) Today in Paradise Verse
Actually Christ did not Say after you resurrect in His Kingdom but corrected that thief and Said, “Today” (the same day they died) they will be in “Paradise”:
“… And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, TODAY you will be with Me in Paradise.”…” (Luke 23:43, NKJV)
2) We can gather in “spirit” first at “Paradise or New Jerusalem” before the “Resurrection” [From Page 1384 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook]
“… 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23to the [j]general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. …” (Hebrews 12:22 – 24, NKJV)
Note: The “heavenly Jerusalem CITY” (Lowest Heaven) seems to be the “common gathering place of the Church too” of those of the “firstborn” or “First Resurrection”.
3) But only AFTER the Resurrection (with full NEW BODY) we can partake of the TREE of LIFE in this PARADISE [From Page 181 onward of the #ChiliasmBook]
“… He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the CHURCHES. To him who overcomes I WILL GIVE TO EAT from the TREE OF LIFE, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God. …” (Revelation 2:7, NKJV)
“… 12“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to GIVE TO EVERY ONE ACCORDING TO HIS WORK. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” 14BLESSED are those WHO DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the RIGHT to THE TREE OF LIFE, and may ENTER through the GATES INTO THE CITY. 15But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. 16“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star. …” (Revelation 22:12 – 16, NKJV)
Peace to you
Loving Judas is the silliest quote and it means using Church Money for Prosperity blessing as they like and also NO charity Doctrine with that money.
Esau the Example that Prosperity is NOT Proof of God’s Endorsement and even means UNSAVED and HATED by GOD
Jeremiah 29:11 does NOT Teach Prosperity Gospel and 2 Timothy 3:12 Teaches that ALL CHRISTIANS (not some) will be PERSECUTED FINANCIALLY or PHYSICALLY for the GOSPEL which is the TRUE SIGN of FAITH
What if I die terribly and NOT in a Peaceful Sleep type of Death? Does it mean my faith is small and I am a big sinner?
Depths of “Biblical” Thought but it must also be found in Church Fathers and/or Protestant Founders for me where if they differ only there’s possibilities in Doctrine (someone could be in error, let God Decide) but on points which they have all agreed, I don’t argue as I demonstrated in the #DoctrineBook or #BookofDoctrine. Peace to you.
A Summary regarding What I think God’s Will is for ALL Christians
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I don’t think the Church Fathers and Protestant Founders have erred on this part because they are following “what is Written”. Example: Christ Himself NEVER ordained one woman pastor nor sent any women to the preaching excursions he did with males (He never set that example). What is “possible” is the “modern women pastors & those who follow their ways etc.” claims “contradict” each other even more. Can the Holy Spirit of God Say one thing to a woman pastor and another thing to another woman pastor? Wanna try an experiment to prove this, it’s simple. Let’s take 100 pastors from pentecostal churches and ask them to pray and vote for say 3 candidates who God thinks should be president of their Bible own Bible School, and since all of them claim to “hold direct conversation with the Most Blessed Spirit of God”, are you sure all 100 of them will vote for the “same person”? Please remember that Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is Unforgiven which is word spoken against Him (Matthew 12:30 -32). Example in image.
#Womenpastors #MartinLuther #Lutheran #FirstProtestant #ChurchFathers #BibleVerse .
Someone from the “Orthodox” Church said that “Chiliasm is a heresy”.
Reply
Simple Answers with Actual Church History does NOT support anyone against #Chiliasm
Example:
There is NO error in Chiliasm. The “priest” you quoted is NOT the one appointed in the lineage of the Blessed Apostles because they do NOT believe in CHILIASM anymore. Here are the ones to consider:
“… Millennialism was taught by various earlier writers such as Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Commodian, Lactantius, Methodius, and Apollinaris of Laodicea in a form now called premillennialism.[9] According to religious scholar Rev. Dr. Francis Nigel Lee,[10] “Justin’s ‘Occasional Chiliasm’ sui generis which was strongly anti-pretribulationistic was followed possibly by Pothinus in A.D. 175 and more probably (around 185) by Irenaeus”. … MELITO OF SARDIS is frequently listed as a second century proponent of premillennialism.[12] The support usually given for the supposition is that “Jerome [Comm. on Ezek. 36] and Gennadius [De Dogm. Eccl., Ch. 52] both affirm that he was a decided millenarian.”[13] In the early third century, Hippolytus of Rome … Around 220, there were some similar influences on Tertullian, although only with very important and extremely optimistic (if not perhaps even postmillennial) modifications and implications. On the other hand, “Christian Chiliastic” ideas were indeed advocated in 240 by Commodian; in 250 by the Egyptian Bishop Nepos in his Refutation of Allegorists; in 260 by the almost unknown Coracion; and in 310 by Lactantius. Into the late fourth century, Bishop Ambrose of Milan had millennial leanings (Ambrose of Milan. Book II. On the Belief in the Resurrection, verse 108). Lactantius is the last great literary defender of chiliasm in the early Christian church. …”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennialism
By the way before you ask whether can Orthodox Christianity be wrong? Well you guys see Roman Catholics as wrong meaning if they can be wrong so can you and anyone else. My style: Unless you can find Church Fathers “greater” in the lineage of the Blessed Apostles listed above who ALL BELIEVE in CHILIASM (where the details contradict or are misunderstood, we can debate as evidence is there for First Christianity), I am “not” going to follow your school of thought.
Yet again, thank you for sharing your points so anyone can read both sides and decide for themselves which is right.
Peace to you
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[Text] Another Bible Verse which proves #ProsperityGospel false because the “righteous” is “perishing” on “earthly life perspective” but the “wicked” is “prospering” in “earthly life perspective” meaning there is NO such promise even for those “obedient to God”. Please remember that the #ProsperityGospel exists on the fact that if you are obedient to God, then “#Health and #Wealth will be proof and given 100% guaranteed. See the FALSE TEACHING here? Please don’t be deceived.
“… There is a vanity which occurs on earth, that THERE ARE JUST MEN TO WHOM IT HAPPENS ACCORDING TO THE WORK OF THE WICKED; again, THERE ARE WICKED MEN TO WHOM IT HAPPENS ACCORDING TO THE WORK OF THE RIGHTEOUS. I said that this also is vanity. …” (Ecclesiastes 8:14, NKJV)
[From Page 367 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook]
Yes, Strangely, these Bible Verses also describe that the “WICKED” have “NO PANGS in their DEATH” meaning they “die peacefully” and “have healthy bodies prior too”, Verses:
“… 3For I was envious of the boastful, When I saw the PROSPERITY OF THE WICKED. 4For there are NO [A]PANGS IN THEIR DEATH, But their strength is firm. 5They are not in trouble as other men, Nor are they plagued like other men. 6Therefore pride serves as their necklace; Violence covers them like a garment. 7Their [b]eyes bulge with abundance; THEY HAVE MORE THAN HEART COULD WISH. …” (Psalm 73:3 – 7, NKJV)
Then what is the LAW in which GOD GOVERNS HEALTH and WEALTH? “TIME and CHANCE” meaning CONTENTMENT DOCTRINE no matter what happens and keep doing HIS WILL of FAITH and GOOD WORKS especially CHARITY DOCTRINE by RELATIVE MEASURE as even this SAME BOOK of ECCLESIASTES CONCLUDES likewise, example Verses [From Page 234 onward of the #DoctrineBook]:
“… 11I returned and saw under the sun that— The race is not to the swift, Nor the battle to the strong, Nor bread to the wise, NOR RICHES to MEN OF UNDERSTANDING, Nor favor to men of skill; But TIME AND CHANCE HAPPEN to THEM ALL. …” (Ecclesiastes 9:11, NKJV)
“… 9What profit has the worker from that in which he labors? 10I have seen the GOD-GIVEN TASK with which the SONS OF MEN are to be OCCUPIED. 11He has MADE EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL IN ITS TIME. Also HE HAS PUT ETERNITY [Olam/Aeon] IN THEIR HEARTS, except that NO ONE CAN FIND OUT THE WORK THAT GOD DOES FROM BEGINNING TO END. 12I know that NOTHING IS BETTER for them than to REJOICE, and TO DO GOOD IN THEIR LIVES, 13and also that every man should eat and drink and enjoy the good of all his labor—it is the gift of God. …” (Ecclesiastes 3:9 – 13, NKJV)
Which type of DO GOOD? Obeying CHRIST’s COMMANDMENTS especially CHARITY DOCTRINE being the CROWN of PERFECTION: [From Page 1311 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook]
“… 16Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good[d] Teacher, what GOOD THING SHALL I DO that I may have ETERNAL LIFE?” 17So He said to him, [e]“Why do you call Me good? [f]No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to ENTER INTO LIFE, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.” 18He said to Him, “WHICH ONES?” JESUS SAID, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ” 20The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept [g]from my youth. WHAT DO I STILL LACK?” 21JESUS SAID to him, “IF you want to be PERFECT, go, SELL what YOU HAVE and GIVE to the POOR, and YOU WILL HAVE TREASURE IN HEAVEN; and come, FOLLOW ME.” 22But when the young man heard that saying, he went away SORROWFUL, for he had GREAT POSSESSIONS. …” (Matthew 19:16 – 22, NKJV)
No Wisdom is above what CHRIST TAUGHT here FOR LIFE. Peace to you
#assemblingtogether #hebrews1024 #meaningofChurch #Church #ChurchGathering #Matthew1820 #CharityDoctrine .
Link for Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buE_noh3VR0
#ProsperityGospelisFalse #Ireneus #AgainstHeresies #JesseDuplantis #ProsperityGospel #SeenJesus #ChurchFathers #Reformed #Heresies .
WHY I do NOT and NEVER will PRAY to VIRGIN MARY NOR the Saints Practice. Simple: 1 Corinthians 4:6 Says to NOT to go beyond “What is Written” and even Dr. Taylor Marshall the famous “Roman” Catholic defender admits that he “cannot” find Prayers to Virgin Mary in the BIBLE, and so the only SCRIPTURAL CONCLUSION here is DO NOT DO IT. End of Argument. Peace to you
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Unwritten women pastors to Prayers to Virgin Mary – 1 Corinthians 4:6 Says to NOT to go beyond “What is Written” in CONTEXT of New Testament Traditions (especially those enforced with Old Testament too such as NO Women Pastors as per 1 Timothy 2:12 with Isaiah 3:12 or 1 Corinthians 14:33 etc.)
#Unwritten #DoNotGoBeyondWhatisWritten #1Corinthians46 #Isaiah311 #Isaiah312 #WomenPastors #PrayerstoVirginMary #NewTestamentTraditions #ChiliasmBook .
[From Page 878 onward of the #ChiliasmBook]
“… Where, then, was the first man placed? In paradise certainly, as the Scripture declares And God planted a garden [paradisum] eastward in Eden, and there He placed the man whom He had formed. Genesis 2:8 And then afterwards when [man] proved disobedient, he was cast out thence into this world. Wherefore also the elders who were disciples of the apostles tell us that those who were translated were transferred to that place (for paradise has been prepared for righteous men, such as have the Spirit; in which place also Paul the apostle, when he was caught up, heard words which are unspeakable as regards us in our present condition 2 Corinthians 12:4), and that there shall they who have been translated remain until the consummation [of all things], as a prelude to immortality.…” – Blessed St. Irenaeous of Lyons, a Hearer of Blessed St. Polycarp who is an Apostolic Father being the Disciple of Blessed St. John who wrote the Book of Revelation, Approved Church Father in the First Lutheran Father’s Book of Concord, Venerated in the Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglican Communion, Lutheran Church, First Doctor of the Church in order of time, Father of Catholic Theology, (c. 130 AD – c. 202 AD, Against Heresies (Book 5(V), Chapter 5, Points 1, 2-partial)) Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103505.htm
[From Page 153 onward of the #MyCV1Sep2023]
This means that when we die, as Christians, with ‘our soul we will enter Paradise’ immediately (as per Luke 16:19 – 31) and await the ‘redemption of the body’ (Romans 8:23) to enter ‘heaven’ later when He Returns during the First Resurrection (Revelation 20:4 – 6). Yes, a soul with spirit can live in the afterlife abodes or regions such as ‘Abraham’s Bosom’ or Paradise (Luke 16:19 – 31, Revelation 6:10) or be gathered in the New Jerusalem City for the Wedding (Galatians 4:26, Revelation 21:2, Revelation 19:7 – 9) but to ‘live on earth again or to enter higher into the heavens’, we need to partake of the Resurrection First (Revelation 20:4 – 6, Hebrews 11:39 – 40, Hebrews 12:21 – 24). Some portions of Paradise such as the tree of life is only accessible after bodily resurrection (Revelation 22:14) but yet this “heavenly Jerusalem” can be the “gathering of all the Church (Elect) in their spirit-state” as Hebrews 12:22 – 24 reveals. Compare below:
“… 12“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to GIVE TO EVERY ONE ACCORDING TO HIS WORK. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” 14BLESSED are those WHO DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have the RIGHT to THE TREE OF LIFE, and may ENTER through the GATES INTO THE CITY. 15But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie. 16“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star. …” (Revelation 22:12 – 16, NKJV)
“… 22But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23to the [j]general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. …” (Hebrews 12:22 – 24, NKJV)
Note: The “heavenly Jerusalem CITY” (Lowest Heaven) seems to be the “common gathering place of the Church too” of those of the “firstborn” or “First Resurrection”. Peace to you
Lord Jesus Christ’s Religion is “Holiness and Charity Doctrine” (both).
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Which Christianity do I follow?
How to Know God? God Says Do Charity Doctrine
Love is Obeying His “New Testament” Commandments. Explanation in Image.
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[Text] Indeed that’s why I follow Protestant Founders and Church Fathers on the points which they agreed as Doctrine because they cannot be “false teachers” and for the doctrinal points where they have “differed”, someone is wrong and so I keep it as “possibilities” of doctrine instead. Those not Church fathers nor protestant founders could be the “counterfeits” and so I keep away from those parts and only do say “Charity Doctrine” since that we must work together with all and do to them regardless of race, doctrinal differences, different denominations, different gender or even different religion even. Peace to you
New Testament Verse by Christ Directly:
“… Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you. …” (Luke 22:20, NKJV)
[From Pages 305/438/1082 onward of the #SafeRouteScripturallyBook]
The New Covenant is all about “Doing Good Works” for keeping (obeying) “our part of the Covenant”, Verse:
“… 20Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our LORD JESUS, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the BLOOD of the EVERLASTING COVENANT 21MAKE YOU PERFECT in EVERY GOOD WORK to DO HIS WILL, working in you that which is WELL PLEASING in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. …” (Hebrews 13:20 – 21, KJV)
Peace to you
Loving oneself and others Biblically. Self Examination: Are we LOVING BIBLICALLY as CHRIST COMMANDED with OUR MONEY (Finance Context)? Please read carefully as there is NO Christian (“Sons of Most High”) without this DOCTRINE.
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[Text] The “them” (plural) is Hebrews 13:7 is Church Leaders (so Protestant Founders and Church Fathers) “whose faith we are to follow” and the reason is given in Verse 8 as because Jesus Christ is Same FOREVER meaning in this CONTEXT you CANNOT have a “different faith” than what LORD JESUS CHRIST gave the Protestant Founders and Church Fathers. Can you see the ‘real meaning’? So how is “your personal modern Christianity” obeying this Verse? Let each examine themselves. Peace to you
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[Text] No such thing. Just some empty claims with no proofs. All them quoted the Bible and also we can match it to earliest Church Fathers writings which contradicts the Roman Catholic position too which means they are preserved as it is but not believed as I have demonstrated in the #ChiliasmBook and #BookofDoctrine. By the way, who do you believe? Yourself is it? If that’s true how come the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God led all the Protestant Founders and even all the earliest Church Fathers into error (not to mention the billions of Christians in 2000 years) except yourself to truth? And I am supposed to believe this? If you can match your beliefs to Protestant Founders and Church Fathers, then you end up doing the same responsible preaching as I am doing too. Peace to you
[Text] Prosperity Gospel is the only Gospel that teaches to give so we get EARTHLY MONEY BLESSINGS in RETURN. TRUE GOSPEL teaches that GOD REWARDS with HEAVENLY REWARD as CHRIST clearly Revealed both in Luke 6 with phrases “hoping nothing in return” (earthly context, Luke 6:35) but getting “Heavenly” Reward (in the phrase being “SONS of the MOST HIGH” First Resurrection Context, Luke 6:35 with say Luke 20:34 – 36). If a someone says he does NOT want earthly NOR Heavenly Reward, that’s NOT a Christian and may his own words be done to him in that such ones WILL NEVER ENTER HEAVEN because THEY SAID they DID NOT WANT IT, RIGHT? No lies, just honest truth is needed. Peace to you
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[Text] The Woman in the Well went and told the people to come and see Lord Jesus (same thing only was done by the women who saw Lord Jesus First at the Resurrection). Giving an “invite” does NOT make one a “Pastor” or “Doctrinal Authority” to do “Priestly Duties”. In fact, you can see in those Verses that Most Blessed Lord Jesus Christ did NOT ever SEND HER NOR any other WOMEN (including His Mother, Virgin Mary the “Most Blessed” of all women too) to “PREACH the GOSPEL” excursions which He ONLY sent males even before the Resurrection and After. Can you SEE it? Women can share the gospel (am not against that) and can give invites to come to a “MALE PREACHER” but she CANNOT teach with AUTHORITY DOCTRINE NOR DO PRIESTLY/PASTOR Duties as CHRIST Revealed through Blessed Apostle St. Paul in these Verses (and neither did GOD ALLOW WOMEN PRIESTS in the OLD TESTAMENT either and He never used the argument of “more helps better” and also NO MAINSTREAM CHRISTIANITY before the 20th century had WOMEN PASTORS proving EVANGELISM WAS FINE WITHOUT them DOING THAT ROLE – can you REALLY see it? Yep NO Protestant Founder NOR Church Fathers endorsed “women pastors” either except chief heretics such as “Marcion” whom Blessed St. Polycarp the Disciple of Blessed Apostle St. John called as “Firstborn of Satan” for “many reasons”):
Part of WOMEN to be SAVED DOCTRINE in 1 Timothy lists this CONDITION of NOT HAVING WOMEN PASTORS as part of GODLINESS DOCTRINE as follows (Bible Verses not opinions):
“… 9in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and [e]moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, 10but, which is proper for WOMEN PROFESSING GODLINESS, WITH GOOD WORKS. 11Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12And I DO NOT PERMIT A WOMAN to TEACH OR TO HAVE AUTHORITY OVER A MAN, but TO BE IN SILENCE. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression. 15Nevertheless SHE WILL BE SAVED IN CHILDBEARING if they continue in FAITH, LOVE, AND HOLINESS, WITH SELF-CONTROL. …” (1 Timothy 2:9 – 15, NKJV)
Comment: If God does not permit a woman to be a pastor to her “own husband”, that same God cannot allow a women to be a pastor to “another man’s husband either, can you see it?”
You are “not” under a “spiritual leadership” which pleases God but under an oppression when this happens (i.e. with “women spiritual leaders”):
“… As FOR MY PEOPLE, children are their oppressors, And WOMEN RULE OVER THEM. O My people! Those WHO LEAD YOU CAUSE YOU TO ERR, And DESTROY THE WAY OF YOUR PATHS.” …” (Isaiah 3:12, NKJV)
Peace to you
[Text] Please read the explanation in full where the point is this:
Can you SEE it? Women can share the gospel (am not against that) and can give invites to come to a “MALE PREACHER” but she CANNOT teach with AUTHORITY DOCTRINE NOR DO PRIESTLY/PASTOR Duties.
Christ never made any women pastors nor priests nor sent any woman to preach the Gospel even when He Sent males, so why not follow Christ?
Also Christ Appointed Apostle St. Paul as the “Apostle to the Gentiles” meaning we must obey it because Apostle Paul already declared that these are “commands of the Lord” when “Written” (1 Corinthians 14:37) and only when it is “not” God’s Command, Apostle St. Paul says he is presenting an opinion etc. So either way, the conclusion of doctrine remains same and as a bonus all Church Fathers and Protestant Founders and even mainstream Christianity before the 20th century never had “women pastors” which proves that the Most Blessed Holy Spirit of God led them this way only. So for the claim that the Holy Spirit of God suddenly decided to change this part (unless it was say found in Protestant Founders and Church Fathers but not followed such as #Chiliasm) it DOES NOT MAKE SENSE, right? Following the path of “no” women pastors has “no” condemnation because Church Fathers and Protestant Founders are not in Hell. Peace to you
#WhatHeSaid #LordJesusChrist #WomenPastors #WomanattheWell #Theology .
[Text] Women Pastors in Church History only over Women and never in authority over men
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Here are those example Church Father Quotes including Clement of Alexandria which states clearly that “women deacons” only “dealt with women” and NOT as a pastor to men as some websites quote halfway and deceive, example below:
1) Half quote to show as though Clement of Alexandria supported women priests over men
https://womenpriests.org/tradition/clement-clement-of-alexandria/
2) Full Quotes to show that women deacons serve a more feminine reason only
“… DEACONESSES are also appointed — ONLY to ASSIST WOMEN for modesty’s sake, if there is a need because of baptism or an inspection of their bodies. (11) Then, after these, come exorcists and translators < from > one language to another, either in readings or in sermons. But finally there are undertakers, who enshroud the bodies of those who fall asleep; and doorkeepers, and the whole good order [of the laity]…” – Blessed St. Epiphanius of Salamis (c. 310 AD – c. 403 AD, ‘De Fide’, “Panarion”, Point 21.10, Page 679)
Source:
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“… “Have we not a right to take about with us a wife that is a sister like the other apostles?” [1 Corinthians 9:5] But the latter, in accordance with their particular ministry, devoted themselves to preaching without any distraction, and took their wives with them not as women with whom they had marriage relations, but as sisters, that they might be their FELLOW-MINISTERS in DEALING with HOUSEWIVES . It was THROUGH THEM that the LORD’S TEACHING penetrated also the WOMEN’S QUARTERS without any scandal being aroused. We also know the directions about WOMEN DEACONS which are given by the noble Paul in his second letter to Timothy…” – Blessed St. Clement of Alexandria (c. 150 AD – c. 215 AD, Stromata Book 3, Chapter VI, Point 53)
Source:
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/clement-stromata-book3-english.html
Same quote no matter which source quoted unless someone can prove otherwise. Peace to you
[Text] The more important question is: how do you know God approved Jennifer’s pastor? Just because of conversion numbers and good feelings is it? That’s exactly how say orthodox and and Roman Catholics also “feel” when they think they are right as well. Martin Luther (first Protestant) and neither John Calvin (Founder of the Reformed Churches) nor even John Wesley (Founder of the Methodist) churches would have approved Jennifer’s pastor as I pointed to their quotes in the #DoctrineBook . Also neither would any Church Father approve Jennifer’s women-pastor and all of them for 1900 years must be wrong for Jennifer’s Pastor to be ordained based on “God Spoke to her”? This ambiguity part is how she is ordained and if you take say a 100 women pastors and ask them to vote for say a president from 3 candidates among them, I’m pretty sure they would NOT all vote for the “same person” but “all claiming” God Spoke to them directly the candidate of their choice is to be chosen (so someone is wrong) and upon this type of “claims” is how “women pastors”
are formed and not on Bible Verses. So it’s too risky for me and I will stick with the ones GOD has CHOSEN such as Protestant Founders and Church Fathers with BIBLE VERSES all disapproving it. Peace to you
[Text] No need to mute anyone. A lot of posts in this group itself has different Christian perspectives. At least mine has Church History, Protestant Founders and Church Fathers. So it is equivalent to muting them all and listening to your women pastor and their supporters and that’s okay with you? It’s that “unfair”.
I already said earlier women can share the gospel but cannot take “authority in position” and you are confusing that two aspects (for example any man also can share the gospel but not all men are pastors or deacons or bishops – can you see it?). But you LIED that the 70 included women because CHURCH HISTORY SAYS it’s ALL MEN even in the BIBLE never mentions women s Luke 10:1 only uses masculine pronouns and agrees with even CHURCH HISTORY by NAME, example links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventy_disciples
or https://orthodoxwiki.org/Seventy_Apostles
Peace to you
[Text] I am not stuck anywhere. You are just following “someone’s assumption” while I am following “Bible Verses”, actual Church History, Church Fathers and Protestant Founders. You are already judgmental when you approve women pastors against Scripture (judging Scripture to be false even) and then claiming we are judging you when we quote Scripture. See the contradiction?
God’s Church, God’s Rules. It’s like asking, how come none of the 12 Apostles are women? Wouldn’t it be fair if God Gave a chance for a women to be one of the 12 Apostles of the Lamb (Revelation 21:14)? Or arguing that a woman can do the apostle job better than a man and God should have given it? Can you REALLY SEE the type of argument which you are supporting? God did NOT chose any of the 12 Apostles as women itself shows His Gender based Command and not to forget the 144000 Firstfruits of Salvation (kind of like tithes of Salvation, the holiest lot) itself consists only of “unmarried, Jewish Virgin Men” (Revelation 14:4). –>(meaning is God unfair not to include “married” or is He a racist to “not” include Gentiles in it or unfair to “Gender” by not including “women”? Of course not. He knows who can do it best etc. by HIS WILL – His Foreknowledge and all this is New Testament and Final Salvation and Reward Context). Peace to you
Golden Rule: Is it about endorsing Women Pastors?
#LordJesusChrist #GoldenRule #Context #CharityDoctrine .
[Text] Is the Christianity I follow Biblical?
Church Fathers and Protestant Founders as we can be like that as the example of Martin Luther the Protestant also shows. In fact, in the almost Scripture (because many early Church considered 1 Clement to be Scripture but later councils did not on the sole reason Blessed St. Clement of Rome was not an apostle but a direct disciple of Blessed Apostle St. Peter), we find the following CHRISTIANITY PERFECTLY PROPHESIED which I FOLLOW:
[From Page 179 onward of the #DoctrineBook]
“… Who then among you is NOBLE-MINDED? who compassionate? who FULL OF LOVE? Let him declare, “IF ON MY ACCOUNT SEDITION and DISAGREEMENT AND SCHISMS HAVE ARISEN, I WILL DEPART, I WILL GO AWAY whithersoever you desire, and I WILL DO WHATEVER THE MAJORITY COMMANDS; only let the flock of Christ live on terms of peace with the presbyters set over it.” HE THAT ACTS THUS SHALL PROCURE TO HIMSELF GREAT GLORY IN THE LORD; and EVERY PLACE WILL WELCOME HIM. For “the earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof.” These things they WHO LIVE A GODLY LIFE, that is NEVER TO BE REPENTED OF, BOTH HAVE DONE AND ALWAYS WILL DO. … ” – Blessed St. Clement of Rome, an Apostolic Father being a direct Disciple of the Blessed Apostle St. Peter (c.35 AD – c. 99 AD, 1 Clement Chapter 54)
Roman Catholic Source: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1010.htm
Notice that the “PERSON who LEAVES CHURCH” is NOT said to NEED to CHANGE his ways (if he FOLLOWS say St. Irenaeous or other greats) as it is NEVER to be repented of and in fact is PROMISED “GREAT GLORY” in the LORD (whatever GREAT REWARD that means). Please notice that if the Roman Catholics wished to “change” this writing, I think they would have forced that person to agree with their church and must stay as they & other schisms (denominations) all preach likewise, right? So this is clear internal evidence that this quote must have been preserved as it is and it’s so mature and professional & notice also that GREAT REWARD can be GOTTEN WITHOUT BEING INVOLVED in CHURCH. Can you see it?
secular positions woman can hold such as “Judges” who were replaced by “kings” meaning woman can be CEO to anything else. A prophetess is not a priest and can prophesy, the Bible doesn’t prohibit that (but she must make sure her prophecy is from God). However a male prophet can double as a priest too. Yes, Priesthood YHWH only gave to the “Sons” of Levi and neither extended it to woman via Christ in the New Testament Who also only gave it to men beginning with the “apostles” (the highest position among the priesthood).
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[Text] A prophetess does not rank above any New Testament Tradition command even and cannot teach against it meaning all those gender commands apply and here’s the Bible Verse for that (please notice the word “prophet” in it)
“… 16But if ANYONE SEEMS TO BE CONTENTIOUS, WE HAVE NO SUCH CUSTOM, NOR DO THE CHURCHES OF GOD … 32And the SPIRITS OF THE PROPHETS are SUBJECT TO THE PROPHETS. 33For GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF [I]CONFUSION but of PEACE, as in ALL THE CHURCHES OF THE SAINTS. 34Let [j]YOUR WOMEN KEEP SILENT IN THE CHURCHES, for they are NOT PERMITTED TO SPEAK; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. 35And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is SHAMEFUL FOR WOMEN TO SPEAK IN CHURCH. 36Or did the word of God come originally from you? Or was it you only that it reached? 37If ANYONE THINKS HIMSELF TO BE a PROPHET or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things WHICH I WRITE to you are the COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD. …” (1 Corinthians 11:16, 14:16, 32 – 37, NKJV)
A Logic regarding God’s Sovereignty: God only allows the leaders we deserve (that’s why Roman Catholics can be wrong for 2000 years even) and if we respect God to say St. Irenaeous of Lyons’ levels, we get that type of leader etc.
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